I really don't agree with what the guy is saying, but without the full game it's hard to make that judgement. I love the mechanic changes that I saw in the demo, and I don't see why they'd make the game more structured.
Then again, I didn't know Taunt Offset was a thing, and I struggled with getting PPs in Bayonetta on Hard(due to refusing to spam PKPs, Durga glitches, or charged Pillowtalks,) so I'm no genius. Pretty sure the game is going to be way more flexible than they're making it out to be, though.
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I think a lot of action game players can easily get trapped into "the way" to play a game and as such feel like that is the only way it can be or should be played. I actually think its more likely to happen to people who have played a lot of action games because they are used to analysing games so when there is a clear pattern they latch onto it really hard.
It's early times yet and nobody has the experience yet to really know everything about the game. We will be learning things for years.
I bet the way people think about Bayo 2 will be completely different in 2 years.
That's why I'm only slightly worried.
After all, if anyone can make this work for me its them. Godhand is arguably a restrictive and structured experience and that's still my number 1 favorite action game.
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yeah its not simon says
it just places more requirements on the player
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requirements is a much better word
i am okay with requirements
requirements can be achieved by multiple methods
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So does that mean a model or are they talking about the voice actor?
Cos the latter. I'd be interested (if it was possible to go). I like seeing voice actors I like. They always surprise me.
17+ only means model in skimpy clothes to me. Pretty sad.
17+, to me, means "Hey, this is an M rated game and we don't want to be perceived as marketing it to children." Because that's how corporations think.
Maybe it's OK that there are different games for different markets. Not everything has to be made in one aesthetic. Maybe games like GTA, Binding of Issac, Resident Evil, Dark Soul's etc. really do benefit from a "mature" aesthetic.
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He wasn't complaining.
He was offering an explanation.
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Hmm... I'm pretty sure I'm going to put off getting this for a month or two - there's just so much stuff coming out and it'll be just as good in January when the releases start slowing down.
Hmm... I'm pretty sure I'm going to put off getting this for a month or two - there's just so much stuff coming out and it'll be just as good in January when the releases start slowing down.
Sorry, the game didn't reach sales expectations in the first month because Polaritie decided to wait. Thanks a lot :P
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I bought a pro controller.
Nintendo are really pushing that whole index finger on the z buttons aren't they.
Also I asked about wonder 101.
They have it.
For 79. New.
Nintendo does not do price drops in Australia.
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Nintendo are really pushing that whole index finger on the z buttons aren't they.
Also I asked about wonder 101.
They have it.
For 79. New.
Nintendo does not do price drops in Australia.
How much is it on the eShop for you?
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I will probably not be buying either Bayonetta until November. Nothing to do with money, want, needs, flim shaw, but I live in the far north and my bandwidth cap is 150GB a month. Alien Isolation and Shadow of Morder were 60GB.
And there are other games to get as well. Stupid bandwidth caps. >:(
I will probably not be buying either Bayonetta until November. Nothing to do with money, want, needs, flim shaw, but I live in the far north and my bandwidth cap is 150GB a month. Alien Isolation and Shadow of Morder were 60GB.
And there are other games to get as well. Stupid bandwidth caps. >:(
Buy physical instead of digital?
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I will probably not be buying either Bayonetta until November. Nothing to do with money, want, needs, flim shaw, but I live in the far north and my bandwidth cap is 150GB a month. Alien Isolation and Shadow of Morder were 60GB.
And there are other games to get as well. Stupid bandwidth caps. >:(
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I just played the demo for this and I gotta say, I am pumped. The Nintendo Direct turned me right off with the "hurr durr she's sexay!" but the demo gameplay turned me right back on again. Gotta go get a $35 eShop card today.
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Well, I got payed today...and I'll have to cancel my preorder. For the game I bought this system for.
Thanks car, and thanks for not giving me that bonus I was promised, job.
Just promise me that you'll get it someday and we'll be good.
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edited October 2014
That sucks Reynolds. I feel your pain.
Tried out the pro controller on bayo.
70k on the first verse.
Found out something new again.
360% punch has a little windup period before she fires her guns. She draws a little witch diagram in the air. If you press the punch button at the exact point this diagram finishes the effect of the guns change. The sound is harsher, like multiple shots at once, the firing effect is bigger and whiter, and any little enemies hit by it go flying.
First time I did it accidentally I was thinking "I'll shoot these taunted guys a bit before they get to me." and then she blew all of them off the plane one by one in less than a second.
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I'll definitely get it, but I'm losing my $5 off at Newegg. So I'll probably just wait for a sale, since I'm not getting it immediately. It's going to be a pretty sad month or so without it.
It's always going to come with B1 included, right? Not just a preorder, first day thing?
I'll definitely get it, but I'm losing my $5 off at Newegg. So I'll probably just wait for a sale, since I'm not getting it immediately. It's going to be a pretty sad month or so without it.
It's always going to come with B1 included, right? Not just a preorder, first day thing?
It depends on where you are. North America - yes. Anywhere else, who knows.
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Lawl.
360% feet does the knockaway effect automatically.
No precision required.
Awesome.
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Oh god.
You can hold the whip feet to grab and slam an enemy in the middle of a combo.
Like ppkp. Hold the k, she grabs and slams, then press P she continues the combo and does the uppercut weave.
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I just didn't play it much. It didn't grab me. I own the ps2 version and I still haven't finished it.
Which I am actually attributing more to its 2d levels than anything else. 2d very rarely grabs me like 3d games do.
its still a more open system than mgr
its just not the ridiculousness that bayo1 was
17+ only means model in skimpy clothes to me. Pretty sad.
the sword broke mgr right open though
you literally cut through the combats restrictions
i'm pretty sure it was a design philosophy
i guess i was hoping for double the crazy
i guess they decided to make a really tight game focused around a specific ideal
which is okay
its just not what i was hoping for
oh well im sure ill love it anyway
and hey
if there is a way to break the game open
ill find it
17+, to me, means "Hey, this is an M rated game and we don't want to be perceived as marketing it to children." Because that's how corporations think.
All right, people. It is not a gerbil. It is not a hamster. It is not a guinea pig. It is a death rabbit. Death. Rabbit. Say it with me, now.
Then again, I didn't know Taunt Offset was a thing, and I struggled with getting PPs in Bayonetta on Hard(due to refusing to spam PKPs, Durga glitches, or charged Pillowtalks,) so I'm no genius. Pretty sure the game is going to be way more flexible than they're making it out to be, though.
It's early times yet and nobody has the experience yet to really know everything about the game. We will be learning things for years.
I bet the way people think about Bayo 2 will be completely different in 2 years.
That's why I'm only slightly worried.
After all, if anyone can make this work for me its them. Godhand is arguably a restrictive and structured experience and that's still my number 1 favorite action game.
it just places more requirements on the player
i am okay with requirements
requirements can be achieved by multiple methods
Maybe it's OK that there are different games for different markets. Not everything has to be made in one aesthetic. Maybe games like GTA, Binding of Issac, Resident Evil, Dark Soul's etc. really do benefit from a "mature" aesthetic.
He was offering an explanation.
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Nintendo are really pushing that whole index finger on the z buttons aren't they.
Also I asked about wonder 101.
They have it.
For 79. New.
Nintendo does not do price drops in Australia.
I've got time to look around.
How much is it on the eShop for you?
And there are other games to get as well. Stupid bandwidth caps. >:(
Buy physical instead of digital?
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Nope.
It's $79.95 on the eShop too. Generally retail is cheaper than digital. Most big name Wii U games can be found at $59 or $69AU
Morninglord, have you tried importing UK copies before? Ozgameshop have it at $42.99. The downside is it usually takes 2-3 weeks to arrive.
http://www.ozgameshop.com/wii-u-games/the-wonderful-101-game-wii-u
Amen.
I'll buy it at normal price. Hopefully more of that goes back to Platinum.
It's a normal price for a game here. I just can't get it now.
I don't understand his reply. JP RT?
JP must mean "japanese", but I don't know what he means by that in relation to the question.
oh its JP kellams, creative director at platinum who is american and was referring to kamiyas extensive use of "ask ur mom" as a response on twitter
Thanks car, and thanks for not giving me that bonus I was promised, job.
And "RT" means "re-tweet". Think of at as the equivalent of the "x wrote:" thing at the top of a quotebox here on the forums.
Just promise me that you'll get it someday and we'll be good.
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Tried out the pro controller on bayo.
70k on the first verse.
Found out something new again.
360% punch has a little windup period before she fires her guns. She draws a little witch diagram in the air. If you press the punch button at the exact point this diagram finishes the effect of the guns change. The sound is harsher, like multiple shots at once, the firing effect is bigger and whiter, and any little enemies hit by it go flying.
First time I did it accidentally I was thinking "I'll shoot these taunted guys a bit before they get to me." and then she blew all of them off the plane one by one in less than a second.
It's always going to come with B1 included, right? Not just a preorder, first day thing?
It depends on where you are. North America - yes. Anywhere else, who knows.
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360% feet does the knockaway effect automatically.
No precision required.
Awesome.
You can hold the whip feet to grab and slam an enemy in the middle of a combo.
Like ppkp. Hold the k, she grabs and slams, then press P she continues the combo and does the uppercut weave.
I spent like 3 demo playthroughs just experimenting with those. Whip Feet are love. Whip feet are life.