MOTW 1/23/13: Yeah, great. Sounds fascinating.

TexiKen

Avengers #3, the new recruits are the exact opposite of Saved by the Bell: the New Class. Plus more foreshadowing:

Uncanny X-Force #1, his name is Puck and he likes to fu......rnish information to Betsy and Storm. Plus Fantomex goes and makes everything weirder than it should be:

Sinogue

Yeah, that's pretty weird.

Transporter

At first, I was weirded out.

BUT ITS FANTOMEX.

Of course he's in love with himself.

Undead Scottsman

I thought Fantomex died in the kid Apocolypse storyline?

UnbrokenEva

Undead Scottsman wrote: »

I thought Fantomex died in the kid Apocolypse storyline?

he did!

then they dumped his body in a cloning machine, the machine got confused by his 3 brains and made a separate body for each one, including a female Fantomex and an evil one that has the sentinel-brain.

comic books!

vagrant_winds

Batwoman #16 has the best art. It's like all... mythic panting like splash pages. I hope someone posts some scans. \

And the Fantomex thing is completely in-character.

AtomicTofu

Young Avengers #1 was so great you guys. I can't believe there isn't an uproar about how SPIDER-MAN* DIES**:

*not really Spider-Man
**not really dead

Undead Scottsman

I'm guessing

Loki?

UnbrokenEva

Undead Scottsman wrote: »

I'm guessing

Loki?

hulkling.

AtomicTofu

Undead Scottsman wrote: »

I'm guessing

Loki?

A shape-shifted Hulkling, actually.

UltimateInferno

Green Lantern #16, Simon and his new green lantern mentor B'DG listen to the message left behind.

Uncanny Avengers #3 Havok takes the lead of his team.

Ultimate Comics The Ultimates #20 Obama sends a whole Navy team to take out a guy, President Cap sends Hawkeye (though maybe he should have sent a team )

Golden Yak

Okay, that 'Spider-Man' quip in YA had me seriously cracking up.

Solar

Fantomex literally cannot love anything more than himself, or believe in anything greater than himself

so that makes a lot of sense

Centipede Damascus

holy cow, the last page in Young Avengers

holy cow

WeedLordVegeta

I can't buy it for a couple days, what happens arrrrrrrrrrgh

Centipede Damascus

I'm not telling!

But it's shocking!

ManetherenWolf

Just read Avengers and Young Avengers.

WTF at the end of YA. good lord.


Avengers 3:

So apparently there is a translation already for what the created human said. "It's Coming. The White Event. The Builders have abandoned the machine. The machine is broken. The universe is broken. Its Coming. A White Event."

So yeah, New Universe all up in here. Also if you look closely, the energy coming into his forehead is the Nightmask brand from New Universe.

Also, the "One is Death" thing at the end... New Avengers reference perhaps?

TexiKen

ManetherenWolf wrote: »

Avengers 3:

So apparently there is a translation already for what the created human said. "It's Coming. The White Event. The Builders have abandoned the machine. The machine is broken. The universe is broken. Its Coming. A White Event."

So yeah, New Universe all up in here. Also if you look closely, the energy coming into his forehead is the Nightmask brand from New Universe.

Also, the "One is Death" thing at the end... New Avengers reference perhaps?

I think it might be more "the circle continues" type thing

Nihilo and Abyss were opposites, and Cap and Tony are shown to be the same thing. I just feel so bad for Tony, always getting shit on by other heroes even though he funds them 90% of the time, Greg Land is drawing his book, recovering alcoholic, previous heart problems, give the guy a break.

Balefuego

Fearghaill wrote: »

Undead Scottsman wrote: »

I thought Fantomex died in the kid Apocolypse storyline?

he did!

then they dumped his body in a cloning machine, the machine got confused by his 3 brains and made a separate body for each one, including a female Fantomex and an evil one that has the sentinel-brain.

comic books!

it wasn't the kid apocalypse storyline, that was the very first arc

He was killed by the skinless man at the very start of Final Execution

(and the he got better obviously)

Balefuego

TexiKen wrote: »

ManetherenWolf wrote: »

Avengers 3:

So apparently there is a translation already for what the created human said. "It's Coming. The White Event. The Builders have abandoned the machine. The machine is broken. The universe is broken. Its Coming. A White Event."

So yeah, New Universe all up in here. Also if you look closely, the energy coming into his forehead is the Nightmask brand from New Universe.

Also, the "One is Death" thing at the end... New Avengers reference perhaps?

I think it might be more "the circle continues" type thing

Nihilo and Abyss were opposites, and Cap and Tony are shown to be the same thing. I just feel so bad for Tony, always getting shit on by other heroes even though he funds them 90% of the time, Greg Land is drawing his book, recovering alcoholic, previous heart problems, give the guy a break.

It's both

Hickman has been saying in interviews since the books were announced that the simplest dichotomy to describe the difference between Avengers and New Avengers is that Avengers is about life, and New Avengers is about death. Plus I don't expect Cap to stay with the Illuminati for very long, while obviously Tony is never going to extricate himself from it

TexiKen

Wonder Woman #16, the book is throwing out gods left and right, but this is Milan showing up Daredevil for a bit:

Milan has no eyes but when he lowers his blindfold he can see everything flies see:

Balefuego

Anyway, the best comic I read this week was FF#3.

It took them a couple issues to hit the same heights, but Fraction and Allred are doing something here that could be just as amazing as Fraction and Aja's work on Hawkeye, if it keeps up the quality from this week.

First, we have the reveal of what actually supposedly killed Reed, Ben, and Sue and chased Johnny through time and space.

Then, in the best sequence of the book, when Scott goes to convince Darla to come back to the team, we get breathtakingly beautiful art, a wonderful emotional moment, and a mission statement for the book within the span of a few pages.

vagrant_winds

I loved that moment. It was like the 'they're going to kiss' then suddenly WAIT WHAT?

Balefuego

Winter Soldier #14 is Brubaker's last marvel comic for the foreseeable future, and it ends in a dark dark place.

Bucky, Cap, Logan, and Clint do eventually manage to rescue Natasha, and even restore her memories to her. With one exception.

Also, on a side note, Butch Guice did the best work of his life on this title. This was one gorgeous book. I hope the new guy dosen't fuck it up too badly.

Centipede Damascus

WHAT

NO

nightmarenny

I don't understand.

Balefuego

nightmarenny wrote: »

I don't understand.

She dosen't remember Bucky at all

Balefuego

Wolverine and the X-Men #24

romance is in the air at the Jean Grey school, as the issue ends with not 1, not 2, but 3 kisses before literally jumping right into the big storyline Jason Aaron promised would begin in issue 25.

Centipede Damascus

I NEED TO FIND A REALLY BIG TABLE TO FLIP

THIS IS NOT COOL

Balefuego

wait which thing are you flipping out about in your 2nd post

Centipede Damascus

still the Winter Soldier thing

Antimatter

i'm table flipping that WatXM thing

Centipede Damascus

I have no strong feelings one way or the other about the WatXM thing

but that Winter Soldier thing feels like it's just a few steps away from fridging

nightmarenny

Bale took all three allotted pages for WatXM so I'm just gonna say that Quires speech right before that and his appearance in A+X has endeared me greatly to this character I only know from WatXM.

Loving this jerk.

SightTDW

Can someone clear that Avengers stuff up for me?

Are they really bringing New Universe stuff in? Because if they are, I will buy all of that series right now. I loved Newuniversal.

Balefuego

SightTDW wrote: »

Can someone clear that Avengers stuff up for me?

Are they really bringing New Universe stuff in? Because if they are, I will buy all of that series right now. I loved Newuniversal.

no one has come out and said that yes that is happening but yes it is totally happening

Balefuego

Centipede Damascus wrote: »

but that Winter Soldier thing feels like it's just a few steps away from fridging

what, how is that even the same thing at all

Balefuego

nightmarenny wrote: »

Bale took all three allotted pages for WatXM so I'm just gonna say that Quires speech right before that and his appearance in A+X has endeared me greatly to this character I only know from WatXM.

Loving this jerk.

WatXM is the first time he's been interesting. He was boring as fuck in New X-Men.

Although if you like Quire, the Alpha+Omega miniseries that Brian Wood did last year is pretty great. It's non-essential but it's a fun story about Wolverine and Armor getting trapped inside Quentin's mind.

Centipede Damascus

Balefuego wrote: »

Centipede Damascus wrote: »

but that Winter Soldier thing feels like it's just a few steps away from fridging

what, how is that even the same thing at all

because

it's a thing done to the female character to give the male character something to brood about

I mean, on a scale of 1 to Alex DeWitt, it's like a negative five, but still

JyrenB

Centipede Damascus wrote: »

I have no strong feelings one way or the other about the WatXM thing

but that Winter Soldier thing feels like it's just a few steps away from fridging

The Winter Soldier ending is perfect. It's cruel and horrible, but it's perfect. The whole point of everything Leo was doing was to hurt Bucky, and his success in taking Natasha's memories of Bucky is kind of a needed consequence. It also leaves him in a very dark place that fits the character.

I wouldn't say it's fridging at all. Bad things can happen to female characters without being close to that, and this was handled extremely well. Yes, it's primarily used to hurt Bucky, but it IS his book and the amount their relationship mattered outside of things written by Brubaker was damn near nonexistent...so it's not like it'll harm Natasha's future characterization. But the whole arc felt like it build towards this kind of hollow victory very well, and it's kind of nice to have some real consequences to actions rather than everything being a happy ending, especially for this book.

Centipede Damascus

yeah I didn't say it is a fridging, but it feels a lot like one

you have to admit "villain hurts people around hero in order to hurt hero" is a pretty tired trope