i wanted to pick up the 4SP and 3D at some point... frack!
No way, just play a bunch and keep your eye on the cbill count - I find if I focus on the total I want to hit (instead of the thing I'm saving to buy), I'm a lot less impatient during the grind. The 3D is expensive for a Heavy, though, that's for sure.
i dont have the free time that some people have. i might run a couple quick pug games at night if i have time. the one or two nights a week i Oosik it up i pay for it with lack of sleep. And quite frankly, the late nights screw me up for at least 2 days. work + 3 kids drain you on top of keeping up with house hold chores.
so anything that i can buy with MC on the cheap is a deal for me. money is scarce, but not as scarce as time.
if this was 10 yeard ago, id have no problem grinding 6-12 hours a day, every day.
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i wanted to pick up the 4SP and 3D at some point... frack!
No way, just play a bunch and keep your eye on the cbill count - I find if I focus on the total I want to hit (instead of the thing I'm saving to buy), I'm a lot less impatient during the grind. The 3D is expensive for a Heavy, though, that's for sure.
It is, but it's also a god damn terror on the battlefield and worth every penny. Two gauss + 4 medium lasers == Everything in the world dies all at once.
I ran this setup on a K2!
The 3D and K2 can do basically all the same things, and reach similar speeds when comparing engine tonnage...it's very strange.
Having never run either, I'm guessing the CTF-3D can run a bit cooler, but I'm not sure if the arm-mounted gauss is a good thing or a bad thing. Am I close? That split between arm and torso for both the ballistic and energy slots is my main concern about the chassis. Four weapon groups is one more than I can run comfortably.
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You can group weapons however you want, no reason you can't put multiple weapons in the same group if they're on different body parts (although I guess you do have to be careful about the arms swinging around in this case...). Do you not have a multi-button mouse? I find 4 groups is very comfortable with the left and right click buttons, and then groups 3 and 4 being on the forward/back buttons on the side.
Personally, I think Catapults are much more resilient than Cataphracts due to being harder to hit/disable. The arms on a K2 are miniscule compared to a Cataphract and it's shorter and less wide than a Cataphract, but the Cataphract can mount only marginally more armor.
Just my opinion, though, and I have a fairly obvious K2 fetish.
But that would require buying 3 Cataphracts and Eliting them
Also the Cataphract requires a much larger engine than a 'pult to reach similar speeds, so if I don't want to move more slowly I don't gain anything in weight.
Plus the 'phract has a profile that's much easier to hit at range.
On the plus side, the thunderphract has the PPCs mounted high up on the torso, which makes it easy to fire them over terrain. The gauss is arm mounted which gives you a better range of motion. It also has a tiny head hitbox and can use its left arm to absorb fire and protect the vulnerable CT.
Less speed, sure, but frankly you don't need a lot of speed on it. Ideally you'll be sitting behind your assaults so that they are drawing the fire.
They should put a report at end of match for number of seconds you stood in front of a teammate preventing them from shooting while you rush in to fight 3 atlases with your medium. But thanks for letting them set up so they can instantly kill me after they are done with you. At least I tied up nearly half their team to buy some time... oh wait half my team is dead already and I've gotta wait for them to go kill the afks so I can have my mech back #publife
You can group weapons however you want, no reason you can't put multiple weapons in the same group if they're on different body parts (although I guess you do have to be careful about the arms swinging around in this case...). Do you not have a multi-button mouse? I find 4 groups is very comfortable with the left and right click buttons, and then groups 3 and 4 being on the forward/back buttons on the side.
Personally, I think Catapults are much more resilient than Cataphracts due to being harder to hit/disable. The arms on a K2 are miniscule compared to a Cataphract and it's shorter and less wide than a Cataphract, but the Cataphract can mount only marginally more armor.
Just my opinion, though, and I have a fairly obvious K2 fetish.
K2 is pretty much 'unfairly' good, nice geometry and nice hardpoint layout to do just about anything you could want (except for missle, but if you want missles you're using the wrong varient) and in the sweet spot of tonnage if you want to hit hard but still be able to move faster than a crawl.
A marginal benefit to the CTF is you have a main gun in an arm that can elevate/point down where a K2 has trouble if the target is high or low in relation to it.
Hey @Ninja Snarl P, your ERPPC/Gauss phract is a -2X, right? How's it stack up to the AC20/5MLas -1X? I just bought the -2X after breazing through the basic proficiencies with the -1X (first time using an AC20, good god I love that weapon), and I'm trying to decide how I want to play it. I was thinking 3xLLas/2xSRM6, but I'm not very good at keeping lasers trained on target so the pinpoint damage or that build is really appealing. Do you run anything else with it, or just the PPCs & Gauss?
EDIT: What engine are you using? Playing around in the Mech Lab spreadsheet, using the STD 280, the only way I can fit 2xERPPCs and a Gauss with 2 only tons of ammo, and 12 DHS, is if I run both ES & FF. You're not running an XL are you? Or something really slow?
Yeah, I have to run 300XL on that build. Makes it fragile, but your armament has better range than basically anything in the game. It's a tradeoff of durability and firepower for pinpoint punch and big, big range. Dealing with lights was pretty sketchy, but I haven't used it since the lag armor update so it should be pretty okay now. Heat is a problem, though; you should be able control it, but I always forget not to overdo it with alpha strikes and end up shut down in the middle of close fights.
I'm gonna try dropping the ERPPCs for a pair of ERLLs, an SRM4 with a ton of ammo, and an AMS. My heat efficiency will go way up and the SRM4 means a considerable extra punch close-up, but I'll definitely lose that instant damage dump. And I know the torso/arm laser thing is gonna be an issue, so it might not be great if you don't like lasers.
For the 1X running 5xMLAS and an AC/20, that's just a totally, totally different beast. 5 MLASes means you have effectively constant damage output without overheating and the AC/20 means you've got a heavy-duty punch. You're definitely a brawler there, though not a front-line one if assaults are around. Having all those lasers means you can hit an open section as soon as the armor comes off or always have something to hit lights with.
Hmm, interesting. I'm not sure how comfortable I'd be running an XL in a Phract, though. I lose side torsos in my 1X all the time. I'm actually thinking about going to opposite way. If I drop down to a STD260, I only lose 5 kph (down to 60 kph as opposed to 65 with the STD 280). And that'll let me drop the FF and gain a ton of Gauss ammo and another DHS.
Another option is to drop the Gauss in exchange for SRM6s. I could go with the STD 280, 2xERPPC & 2xSRM6 with 4 tons of SRM ammo, and 17 DHS.
i wanted to pick up the 4SP and 3D at some point... frack!
No way, just play a bunch and keep your eye on the cbill count - I find if I focus on the total I want to hit (instead of the thing I'm saving to buy), I'm a lot less impatient during the grind. The 3D is expensive for a Heavy, though, that's for sure.
It is, but it's also a god damn terror on the battlefield and worth every penny. Two gauss + 4 medium lasers == Everything in the world dies all at once.
95% of my ideas for the 4X end in, "...and it would actually work if I had a 3D instead." It's between that and an Assault mech for my next purchase.
Once Verizon gets its head out of its ass and stops sending my packets to Toronto by way of motherfucking Germany.
i wanted to pick up the 4SP and 3D at some point... frack!
No way, just play a bunch and keep your eye on the cbill count - I find if I focus on the total I want to hit (instead of the thing I'm saving to buy), I'm a lot less impatient during the grind. The 3D is expensive for a Heavy, though, that's for sure.
i dont have the free time that some people have. i might run a couple quick pug games at night if i have time. the one or two nights a week i Oosik it up i pay for it with lack of sleep. And quite frankly, the late nights screw me up for at least 2 days. work + 3 kids drain you on top of keeping up with house hold chores.
so anything that i can buy with MC on the cheap is a deal for me. money is scarce, but not as scarce as time.
if this was 10 yeard ago, id have no problem grinding 6-12 hours a day, every day.
You are correct, sir. I would amend my statement to include "does not apply if you have kids."
You can group weapons however you want, no reason you can't put multiple weapons in the same group if they're on different body parts (although I guess you do have to be careful about the arms swinging around in this case...). Do you not have a multi-button mouse? I find 4 groups is very comfortable with the left and right click buttons, and then groups 3 and 4 being on the forward/back buttons on the side.
I do have a multi-button mouse, but 3 and 4 are on the side and I have a bad tendency to throw off my aim when I shift my hand (even slightly) to press 4. I think what I really need is a bigger mousepad so I can have the sensitivity less stupidly high and be able to jitter my mouse without going completely off target.
And, yeah, I know I can group arm and torso weapons, but I almost never do since I love how MWO handles arm and torso reticles separately and hate wasting that capability. Nothing pains me more than spectating some Atlas and seeing them shut down because they were trying to hit a light with their arm lasers and had them in a group with the torso guns.
I found it especially vital in the Cataphract since the arm and torso lasers are at such different heights. It's always such a shame to fire a weapon I know
is blocked by terrain, or to not fire a weapon group because some of it might hit a friendly. Even on my Flame I separated the groups by arm so I could shoot around corners better.
The 2 (ER)PPC/1 Gauss build sounds pretty neat, though. Or maybe 4 LLs...dammit now I want to be home fiddling with Cataphracts. Such a wonderfully flexible chassis.
You can group weapons however you want, no reason you can't put multiple weapons in the same group if they're on different body parts (although I guess you do have to be careful about the arms swinging around in this case...). Do you not have a multi-button mouse? I find 4 groups is very comfortable with the left and right click buttons, and then groups 3 and 4 being on the forward/back buttons on the side.
I do have a multi-button mouse, but 3 and 4 are on the side and I have a bad tendency to throw off my aim when I shift my hand (even slightly) to press 4. I think what I really need is a bigger mousepad so I can have the sensitivity less stupidly high and be able to jitter my mouse without going completely off target.
And, yeah, I know I can group arm and torso weapons, but I almost never do since I love how MWO handles arm and torso reticles separately and hate wasting that capability. Nothing pains me more than spectating some Atlas and seeing them shut down because they were trying to hit a light with their arm lasers and had them in a group with the torso guns.
I found it especially vital in the Cataphract since the arm and torso lasers are at such different heights. It's always such a shame to fire a weapon I know
is blocked by terrain, or to not fire a weapon group because some of it might hit a friendly. Even on my Flame I separated the groups by arm so I could shoot around corners better.
The 2 (ER)PPC/1 Gauss build sounds pretty neat, though. Or maybe 4 LLs...dammit now I want to be home fiddling with Cataphracts. Such a wonderfully flexible chassis.
I have the same problem with the thumb buttons on my Razer mouse screwing up my aim, plus I usually use the plasma TV with the media center wireless KBAM. I remapped group 3 to <space> and group 4 to <E>, and it works really well.
You can group weapons however you want, no reason you can't put multiple weapons in the same group if they're on different body parts (although I guess you do have to be careful about the arms swinging around in this case...). Do you not have a multi-button mouse? I find 4 groups is very comfortable with the left and right click buttons, and then groups 3 and 4 being on the forward/back buttons on the side.
I do have a multi-button mouse, but 3 and 4 are on the side and I have a bad tendency to throw off my aim when I shift my hand (even slightly) to press 4. I think what I really need is a bigger mousepad so I can have the sensitivity less stupidly high and be able to jitter my mouse without going completely off target.
And, yeah, I know I can group arm and torso weapons, but I almost never do since I love how MWO handles arm and torso reticles separately and hate wasting that capability. Nothing pains me more than spectating some Atlas and seeing them shut down because they were trying to hit a light with their arm lasers and had them in a group with the torso guns.
I found it especially vital in the Cataphract since the arm and torso lasers are at such different heights. It's always such a shame to fire a weapon I know
is blocked by terrain, or to not fire a weapon group because some of it might hit a friendly. Even on my Flame I separated the groups by arm so I could shoot around corners better.
The 2 (ER)PPC/1 Gauss build sounds pretty neat, though. Or maybe 4 LLs...dammit now I want to be home fiddling with Cataphracts. Such a wonderfully flexible chassis.
You can run the -2X with 3xLL + 2xSRM6 with 4 tons of SRM ammo and 16 DHS with the STD 280. It's the build I was going to use with the -2X until Ninja started talking about his 2xERPPC/Gauss -2X.
You can group weapons however you want, no reason you can't put multiple weapons in the same group if they're on different body parts (although I guess you do have to be careful about the arms swinging around in this case...). Do you not have a multi-button mouse? I find 4 groups is very comfortable with the left and right click buttons, and then groups 3 and 4 being on the forward/back buttons on the side.
I do have a multi-button mouse, but 3 and 4 are on the side and I have a bad tendency to throw off my aim when I shift my hand (even slightly) to press 4. I think what I really need is a bigger mousepad so I can have the sensitivity less stupidly high and be able to jitter my mouse without going completely off target.
And, yeah, I know I can group arm and torso weapons, but I almost never do since I love how MWO handles arm and torso reticles separately and hate wasting that capability. Nothing pains me more than spectating some Atlas and seeing them shut down because they were trying to hit a light with their arm lasers and had them in a group with the torso guns.
I found it especially vital in the Cataphract since the arm and torso lasers are at such different heights. It's always such a shame to fire a weapon I know
is blocked by terrain, or to not fire a weapon group because some of it might hit a friendly. Even on my Flame I separated the groups by arm so I could shoot around corners better.
The 2 (ER)PPC/1 Gauss build sounds pretty neat, though. Or maybe 4 LLs...dammit now I want to be home fiddling with Cataphracts. Such a wonderfully flexible chassis.
I have the same problem with the thumb buttons on my Razer mouse screwing up my aim, plus I usually use the plasma TV with the media center wireless KBAM. I remapped group 3 to <space> and group 4 to <E>, and it works really well.
Yeah, I've got a Razer, too. It's a pretty nice mouse, mostly. Just those damn side buttons.
RE mice - I have the Logitech G700, which I got specifically with MWO in mind and it is perfect. 3/4 are top and bottom of a nice little index finger indent to the left of 1, which is perfect for gauss or other delicate firing situations. I have side buttons that I map to SRMs, where the bit of jitter that pressing gives doesn't really matter much. Plus, when someone gets in your face, squeeze mouse and blow them up.
If anyone's looking to upgrade their mouse, I highly recommend it.
In other news, I saw a dual LBX Phract build the other night and I really want to try it, except I keep feeling like the cataphract is too squishy or something for getting right in the middle of things. Also, it leaves you in a weird place weight-wise.. can't quite figure out a build that I like. Anyone run this? (yes, I know LBX is silly)
Hey @Ninja Snarl P, your ERPPC/Gauss phract is a -2X, right? How's it stack up to the AC20/5MLas -1X? I just bought the -2X after breazing through the basic proficiencies with the -1X (first time using an AC20, good god I love that weapon), and I'm trying to decide how I want to play it. I was thinking 3xLLas/2xSRM6, but I'm not very good at keeping lasers trained on target so the pinpoint damage or that build is really appealing. Do you run anything else with it, or just the PPCs & Gauss?
EDIT: What engine are you using? Playing around in the Mech Lab spreadsheet, using the STD 280, the only way I can fit 2xERPPCs and a Gauss with 2 only tons of ammo, and 12 DHS, is if I run both ES & FF. You're not running an XL are you? Or something really slow?
Yeah, I have to run 300XL on that build. Makes it fragile, but your armament has better range than basically anything in the game. It's a tradeoff of durability and firepower for pinpoint punch and big, big range. Dealing with lights was pretty sketchy, but I haven't used it since the lag armor update so it should be pretty okay now. Heat is a problem, though; you should be able control it, but I always forget not to overdo it with alpha strikes and end up shut down in the middle of close fights.
I'm gonna try dropping the ERPPCs for a pair of ERLLs, an SRM4 with a ton of ammo, and an AMS. My heat efficiency will go way up and the SRM4 means a considerable extra punch close-up, but I'll definitely lose that instant damage dump. And I know the torso/arm laser thing is gonna be an issue, so it might not be great if you don't like lasers.
For the 1X running 5xMLAS and an AC/20, that's just a totally, totally different beast. 5 MLASes means you have effectively constant damage output without overheating and the AC/20 means you've got a heavy-duty punch. You're definitely a brawler there, though not a front-line one if assaults are around. Having all those lasers means you can hit an open section as soon as the armor comes off or always have something to hit lights with.
Hmm, interesting. I'm not sure how comfortable I'd be running an XL in a Phract, though. I lose side torsos in my 1X all the time. I'm actually thinking about going to opposite way. If I drop down to a STD260, I only lose 5 kph (down to 60 kph as opposed to 65 with the STD 280). And that'll let me drop the FF and gain a ton of Gauss ammo and another DHS.
Another option is to drop the Gauss in exchange for SRM6s. I could go with the STD 280, 2xERPPC & 2xSRM6 with 4 tons of SRM ammo, and 17 DHS.
So I tried my modifications and the results aren't great. It's tough to keep the ERLL damage from both weapons on-target unless you're holding perfectly still. The SRM4 is nice to have; SRM6 would be better, but it ends up doing a double-shot, which is useless against anything that moves relatively quickly.
The big problem I see with dual ERPPC and no gauss is that you're limited pretty heftily by heat. Double PPC and gauss means you can always fire the gauss when either ERPPC would send you way over the limit.
Gonna try another refit with gauss and ERPPC in the torso, ERLL in the arm, and an SRM4. Should play out better for shot placement.
Meh, Dual LBX isn't horrible. I'd take double AC/10 over it, though, but whatever works.
No, LBX is pretty horrible. It spreads out all its damage, there is no reason you would ever want to take it.
Tabletop-Loving Diplominator is screaming in helpless fury but yeah pretty much.
Maybe when/if they implement alternate ammo types.
mmm Inferno SRMS and slug LB...
I don't see them implementing slugs for the LB. There would be no reason for the AC/10 to be in the game.
They could give it some minor advantages like a better rate of fire or higher muzzle velocity or not costing a shitload of C-bills.
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The logical thing is for the LBX-10 to deal more than 10 damage.
I feel like the game has pretty well established that adhering to exact tabletop values does not good balance make.
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Well, the LBX10 was completely useless before they introduced the crit system, because then it could at least do lots of crit stuff, but that use is marginal since the crit system is pretty thin.
Now, once they make it so that a single LBX10 shot can kill or cripple a mech the moment armor is gone? Then the 10 damage thing will matter a lot less. Part of the reason SRMs are still kinda OP is that they do a bunch of damage, have high damage per shot for a scatter weapon, and add a shit-ton of chances to inflict damage (which magnifies their already-high per-missile damage), all for fairly little weight. Now, if the LBX-10 got to be the dominant crit machine, then it would have real utility. Having your armor cracked open and a bunch of LBX shots ripping up your insides immediately afterwards should be the real danger from that weapon, not the raw damage itself.
If crit chances take that LBX blast and turn that 10 damage into 20 or 30 from crits, that would be a seriously potent situational weapon. People running them would be more limited, but they would also be hugely effective when played right.
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Right now I find the LBX useful because of its lower heat value over the AC/10; I can get up in someone's face and basically hold the LBX button while watching my laser use. Plus it makes a bloody big racket and knocks the other guy around quite a bit, and its a lot easier to smack a light with a shotgun...
I recommend the Logitech G700 as well. The ability to quickly switch DPI has come in handy at extreme range engagements, and the button placement is fantastic. Also, comfortable as hell.
I think the LB 10-X serves a role right now because of its lighter weight and heat generation compare to the AC10. But, honestly, I haven't used it in forever, because the AC10 is so much more attractive.
I'm just hoping the crit system overhaul does the trick, or at least allows them to specifically buff the LBX if it's still lacking. That thing should be a hell of a lot scarier than it actually is right now. Shotgun mechs were my favorite shit ever in Mechwarrior and I really want to resurrect a viable one in MWO.
At the very least they could improve the damage per pellet like they did for SRMs and LRMs. I wonder if either missiles or LBs hit tend with significantly more or less shots per cluster compared to tabletop.
the LBX has always been a crit seeker, just like SRMs. in TT it was a complete and utter upgrade to the AC10, which they cant really do here because money isnt really an object. dont know how theyre gonna do it, but they need to make it a wee bit more balanced. maybe make each pellet do 1.5 damage or something. its just not strong enough at range, like any shotgun. but that was mitigated in TT by allowing slugs. so again... dunno what the future will bring.
the LBX has always been a crit seeker, just like SRMs. in TT it was a complete and utter upgrade to the AC10, which they cant really do here because money isnt really an object. dont know how theyre gonna do it, but they need to make it a wee bit more balanced. maybe make each pellet do 1.5 damage or something. its just not strong enough at range, like any shotgun. but that was mitigated in TT by allowing slugs. so again... dunno what the future will bring.
Increase the damage on crits, increase crit chance, something along those lines. It won't get done soon since Garth was saying they're testing the new crit system, so it wouldn't make sense to rebalance a crit weapon until that's sorted out.
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i dont have the free time that some people have. i might run a couple quick pug games at night if i have time. the one or two nights a week i Oosik it up i pay for it with lack of sleep. And quite frankly, the late nights screw me up for at least 2 days. work + 3 kids drain you on top of keeping up with house hold chores.
so anything that i can buy with MC on the cheap is a deal for me. money is scarce, but not as scarce as time.
if this was 10 yeard ago, id have no problem grinding 6-12 hours a day, every day.
I ran this setup on a K2!
The 3D and K2 can do basically all the same things, and reach similar speeds when comparing engine tonnage...it's very strange.
Personally, I think Catapults are much more resilient than Cataphracts due to being harder to hit/disable. The arms on a K2 are miniscule compared to a Cataphract and it's shorter and less wide than a Cataphract, but the Cataphract can mount only marginally more armor.
Just my opinion, though, and I have a fairly obvious K2 fetish.
On the plus side, the thunderphract has the PPCs mounted high up on the torso, which makes it easy to fire them over terrain. The gauss is arm mounted which gives you a better range of motion. It also has a tiny head hitbox and can use its left arm to absorb fire and protect the vulnerable CT.
Less speed, sure, but frankly you don't need a lot of speed on it. Ideally you'll be sitting behind your assaults so that they are drawing the fire.
K2 is pretty much 'unfairly' good, nice geometry and nice hardpoint layout to do just about anything you could want (except for missle, but if you want missles you're using the wrong varient) and in the sweet spot of tonnage if you want to hit hard but still be able to move faster than a crawl.
A marginal benefit to the CTF is you have a main gun in an arm that can elevate/point down where a K2 has trouble if the target is high or low in relation to it.
Hmm, interesting. I'm not sure how comfortable I'd be running an XL in a Phract, though. I lose side torsos in my 1X all the time. I'm actually thinking about going to opposite way. If I drop down to a STD260, I only lose 5 kph (down to 60 kph as opposed to 65 with the STD 280). And that'll let me drop the FF and gain a ton of Gauss ammo and another DHS.
Another option is to drop the Gauss in exchange for SRM6s. I could go with the STD 280, 2xERPPC & 2xSRM6 with 4 tons of SRM ammo, and 17 DHS.
95% of my ideas for the 4X end in, "...and it would actually work if I had a 3D instead." It's between that and an Assault mech for my next purchase.
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You are correct, sir. I would amend my statement to include "does not apply if you have kids."
I do have a multi-button mouse, but 3 and 4 are on the side and I have a bad tendency to throw off my aim when I shift my hand (even slightly) to press 4. I think what I really need is a bigger mousepad so I can have the sensitivity less stupidly high and be able to jitter my mouse without going completely off target.
And, yeah, I know I can group arm and torso weapons, but I almost never do since I love how MWO handles arm and torso reticles separately and hate wasting that capability. Nothing pains me more than spectating some Atlas and seeing them shut down because they were trying to hit a light with their arm lasers and had them in a group with the torso guns.
I found it especially vital in the Cataphract since the arm and torso lasers are at such different heights. It's always such a shame to fire a weapon I know
is blocked by terrain, or to not fire a weapon group because some of it might hit a friendly. Even on my Flame I separated the groups by arm so I could shoot around corners better.
The 2 (ER)PPC/1 Gauss build sounds pretty neat, though. Or maybe 4 LLs...dammit now I want to be home fiddling with Cataphracts. Such a wonderfully flexible chassis.
I have the same problem with the thumb buttons on my Razer mouse screwing up my aim, plus I usually use the plasma TV with the media center wireless KBAM. I remapped group 3 to <space> and group 4 to <E>, and it works really well.
You can run the -2X with 3xLL + 2xSRM6 with 4 tons of SRM ammo and 16 DHS with the STD 280. It's the build I was going to use with the -2X until Ninja started talking about his 2xERPPC/Gauss -2X.
Yeah, I've got a Razer, too. It's a pretty nice mouse, mostly. Just those damn side buttons.
If anyone's looking to upgrade their mouse, I highly recommend it.
In other news, I saw a dual LBX Phract build the other night and I really want to try it, except I keep feeling like the cataphract is too squishy or something for getting right in the middle of things. Also, it leaves you in a weird place weight-wise.. can't quite figure out a build that I like. Anyone run this? (yes, I know LBX is silly)
So I tried my modifications and the results aren't great. It's tough to keep the ERLL damage from both weapons on-target unless you're holding perfectly still. The SRM4 is nice to have; SRM6 would be better, but it ends up doing a double-shot, which is useless against anything that moves relatively quickly.
The big problem I see with dual ERPPC and no gauss is that you're limited pretty heftily by heat. Double PPC and gauss means you can always fire the gauss when either ERPPC would send you way over the limit.
Gonna try another refit with gauss and ERPPC in the torso, ERLL in the arm, and an SRM4. Should play out better for shot placement.
No, LBX is pretty horrible. It spreads out all its damage, there is no reason you would ever want to take it.
Tabletop-Loving Diplominator is screaming in helpless fury but yeah pretty much.
Maybe when/if they implement alternate ammo types.
mmm Inferno SRMS and slug LB...
I don't see them implementing slugs for the LB. There would be no reason for the AC/10 to be in the game.
They could give it some minor advantages like a better rate of fire or higher muzzle velocity or not costing a shitload of C-bills.
I feel like the game has pretty well established that adhering to exact tabletop values does not good balance make.
Now, once they make it so that a single LBX10 shot can kill or cripple a mech the moment armor is gone? Then the 10 damage thing will matter a lot less. Part of the reason SRMs are still kinda OP is that they do a bunch of damage, have high damage per shot for a scatter weapon, and add a shit-ton of chances to inflict damage (which magnifies their already-high per-missile damage), all for fairly little weight. Now, if the LBX-10 got to be the dominant crit machine, then it would have real utility. Having your armor cracked open and a bunch of LBX shots ripping up your insides immediately afterwards should be the real danger from that weapon, not the raw damage itself.
If crit chances take that LBX blast and turn that 10 damage into 20 or 30 from crits, that would be a seriously potent situational weapon. People running them would be more limited, but they would also be hugely effective when played right.
I think the LB 10-X serves a role right now because of its lighter weight and heat generation compare to the AC10. But, honestly, I haven't used it in forever, because the AC10 is so much more attractive.
Increase the damage on crits, increase crit chance, something along those lines. It won't get done soon since Garth was saying they're testing the new crit system, so it wouldn't make sense to rebalance a crit weapon until that's sorted out.
Wasn't there someone who still access to the PC Gamer codes? Could that special someone PM me if that's still the case?
dammit! dont put a normal $ amount on it!
Actually I barely know how to use vent.
But still, guys I want to be cool like you and not lose game after game playing pubs.
Yup.
Got it.
That *should* have been obvious.
I got it.