Well, a game where four players did great and we steamrolled them in the laning phase and then threw hard because everyone kept running around solo after that and getting gangbanged by gank squads.
edit: and the fifth was a Yi who didn't want to say what he was actually going to do in the game and thankfully I didn't pick a jungler because that was apparently what he was telepathically telling us he was going to do by not picking smite.
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Would going AD runes/masteries be better than tank runes/masteries at top for Shyvana?
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What is the point of being alive if you don't at least try to do something remarkable? ~ Mario Novak
I never fear death or dyin', I only fear never trying.
Earlier today we hotfixed in some updates to the League System. These changes are intended to address some valid complaints about the harshness and frequency of demotions as well as frustrations surrounding the discrepancy between LP gains and losses for many Division I players. We've also included a few bugfixes. Here's the full list:
- Increased the requirements for being demoted so that demotions will happen less frequently
- Increased the length of the demotion immunity grace period that occurs after being placed in a new division
- Players and teams that are demoted will now have 75 LP in the new division rather than 50
- Tweaked LP gains and losses for players and teams in Division I who haven't passed the additional checks to qualify for the next tier
--- LP changes from both wins and losses will now be reduced in this situation, rather than just wins
--- Reductions in LP changes will now kick in earlier and more gradually rather than only starting near 100 LP
- "Loss forgiven" during server issues will now prevent demotions as well as series losses
- Summoner name changes are now properly handled by the league system
- Fixed a bug that could occasionally cause players to gain more LP than expected in Challenger tier
As always, we'll be monitoring the effects of these changes and we'll be making further tweaks over the coming weeks, so feel free to post your thoughts on the current state of the system once you've had a chance to play some games.
Thanks and gl hf!"
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Looks like people are ragging on IronStylus for Quinn's design. Poor guy; Quinn looks great.
from a couple pages back
but what's the issue people are having? Quinn seems pretty solid visually
The major complaints seem to be that she's wearing too much armor to look like a ranger, and she looks too much like Jarvan. Which I can kind of sympathize with but is also stupid.
I don't know why they didn't see how angry the LP would make people before they released it, but I guess it's okay now. It's also kind of funny to me how before Xypherous was presenting BOTRK as an alternative to MBR because MBR was bad, and now he's basically saying oh wait, BOTRK is also bad. It might work into a Tiger Udyr build well (as well as anything can work into Udyr these days).
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sigh
i had two really good rumble games
and won both of them
and then the two games after that
i got into the loading screen and then it randomly stopped with everyone at a random loading percentage
but obviously ididnt realize this because who stays on the loading screen during loading
so i didnt realize game hadnt started, and i get in like 6-7 minutes late each time
getting back to gold is hard riot pls
Amazing how many games I have lost today due to the inability of my team to fight as a team.
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I hate it when I'm at top and I'm being pushed to my tower and the jungler refuses to take this opportunity to gank. By the time I got a gank at top against Fiora it was too late to stop her. She killed Katarina and nearly killed the jungle Yi and me and then Jarvan comes in and Yi and I die.
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What is the point of being alive if you don't at least try to do something remarkable? ~ Mario Novak
I never fear death or dyin', I only fear never trying.
Looks like people are ragging on IronStylus for Quinn's design. Poor guy; Quinn looks great.
from a couple pages back
but what's the issue people are having? Quinn seems pretty solid visually
The major complaints seem to be that she's wearing too much armor to look like a ranger, and she looks too much like Jarvan. Which I can kind of sympathize with but is also stupid.
My impression was that she wasn't flashing cleavage therefore she cannot be a girl. I mean I'm sure there were some legitimate issues being raised but the overall tone came across as "BOOBIES".
Now I've seen everything. I just had a Blitz who was more passive in lane than Soraka. Seriously. He threw maybe three hooks in the first ten minutes. Cassiopeia (Seriously, a support cass?) just sat in one spot in the brush throwing poke, and never ONCE got a hook thrown at her, because apparently this blitz can't infer position... (Not like it's hard to hit the entire bush with a hook)
I had the same complaint tonight from my support Alistar against Cait/Taric. Didn't ward lane bushes and said I was too passive, needed to man up against Caitlyn. As he stood behind me. Ugh, some people have no idea.
Sometimes being the unsung hero stings. Playing lulu, constantly landing perfect polymorphs on their AD, slowing people and saving people with ult. Everyone brags about their kda and stuff, and just tells me to ward more (4-5 wards up at a time ><).
Soloqueue is annoying sometimes.
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Watching SivHD play AP MF and then the Pokemon rap comes on.
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What is the point of being alive if you don't at least try to do something remarkable? ~ Mario Novak
I never fear death or dyin', I only fear never trying.
I had the same complaint tonight from my support Alistar against Cait/Taric. Didn't ward lane bushes and said I was too passive, needed to man up against Caitlyn. As he stood behind me. Ugh, some people have no idea.
At least Alistar has godly peel, so he's not entirely wasted when being passive. Blitz's ENTIRE SUPPORT GAME is landing his hook.
Looks like people are ragging on IronStylus for Quinn's design. Poor guy; Quinn looks great.
from a couple pages back
but what's the issue people are having? Quinn seems pretty solid visually
The major complaints seem to be that she's wearing too much armor to look like a ranger, and she looks too much like Jarvan. Which I can kind of sympathize with but is also stupid.
My impression was that she wasn't flashing cleavage therefore she cannot be a girl. I mean I'm sure there were some legitimate issues being raised but the overall tone came across as "BOOBIES".
That was certainly a part of it, although that wasn't my impression, but while I have posted way too much on the official forum (granted, any posting is too much), I don't read threads that are more than a couple pages long because that is just a waste of time.
So I'm jungling Hec. I usually jungle Hec these days. He's just fun and his kit works with running all over the map like SQ jungling tends to be.
So bottom is feeding like a buffet. Come down like.. 2 or 3 times to hold their tower or save their Soraka after the Ez dies. ..And Ez pings me back and tells me to stop stealing his CS (When he is dead.) so I'm killing golems and he wanders over and kills them both right before they are dead. ....
Yah, I abandoned the fuck out of that lane. Total Soraka/Ez died 23 times. That was almost twice the number of deaths of the other 3 members of the team total. Our Morgana got pretty stompy on their mid Akali for most of the game but somehow Akali could still build enough burst to kill Ez/Soraka/Morgana with regularity.
So it was basically me and Malphite stomping around 2v5, killing 2 or 3 of them, then dying.
Game 3, I get forced to AD again, this time *we've* got the Cait/Taric combo going, versus Corki/Lulu.
Level one, we get into lane, CS a bit, and then Taric DC's in the middle of the lane, giving Corki FB. Doesn't come back for a while, but wish he wouldn't since I think he was trolling. Often off solo-pushing and getting caught all the time around the enemy jungle.
Also had a AD Teemo who thought he was going to counter Garen somehow.
Face. Fucking. Desk. That was just depressing, since I had a four-game win streak going into that series.
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ok, every normal I've played lately has basically played out like this:
1. All lanes lose. Hard.
2. We somehow hold our inhib towers
3. We teamfight way better than the other team
4. They get baron
5. We lose an inhib
6. We crush them in lategame teamfights
Game 3, I get forced to AD again, this time *we've* got the Cait/Taric combo going, versus Corki/Lulu.
Level one, we get into lane, CS a bit, and then Taric DC's in the middle of the lane, giving Corki FB. Doesn't come back for a while, but wish he wouldn't since I think he was trolling. Often off solo-pushing and getting caught all the time around the enemy jungle.
Also had a AD Teemo who thought he was going to counter Garen somehow.
Face. Fucking. Desk. That was just depressing, since I had a four-game win streak going into that series.
The Teemo wins top thing is a silly myth going around. I have had SO many people want to play Teemo top. Anytime I le them, they die. A Lot. Teemo is not an instant win champion and a lot of people don't have a handle on the positioning requirements necessary.
TLDR: Friends dont let friends Teemo top.
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Looks like people are ragging on IronStylus for Quinn's design. Poor guy; Quinn looks great.
from a couple pages back
but what's the issue people are having? Quinn seems pretty solid visually
The major complaints seem to be that she's wearing too much armor to look like a ranger, and she looks too much like Jarvan. Which I can kind of sympathize with but is also stupid.
Her armor looks to be mostly leather and cloth, so pretty standard for a ranger
also I don't really get the Jarv comparison, she's got a feather cape and doesn't have giant shoulders, maybe it's the helmet? Either way, she's a part of the Demacian army and she has a thing for J4, so similarities would be somewhat expected
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Game 3, I get forced to AD again, this time *we've* got the Cait/Taric combo going, versus Corki/Lulu.
Level one, we get into lane, CS a bit, and then Taric DC's in the middle of the lane, giving Corki FB. Doesn't come back for a while, but wish he wouldn't since I think he was trolling. Often off solo-pushing and getting caught all the time around the enemy jungle.
Also had a AD Teemo who thought he was going to counter Garen somehow.
Face. Fucking. Desk. That was just depressing, since I had a four-game win streak going into that series.
The Teemo wins top thing is a silly myth going around. I have had SO many people want to play Teemo top. Anytime I le them, they die. A Lot. Teemo is not an instant win champion and a lot of people don't have a handle on the positioning requirements necessary.
Game 3, I get forced to AD again, this time *we've* got the Cait/Taric combo going, versus Corki/Lulu.
Level one, we get into lane, CS a bit, and then Taric DC's in the middle of the lane, giving Corki FB. Doesn't come back for a while, but wish he wouldn't since I think he was trolling. Often off solo-pushing and getting caught all the time around the enemy jungle.
Also had a AD Teemo who thought he was going to counter Garen somehow.
Face. Fucking. Desk. That was just depressing, since I had a four-game win streak going into that series.
The Teemo wins top thing is a silly myth going around. I have had SO many people want to play Teemo top. Anytime I le them, they die. A Lot. Teemo is not an instant win champion and a lot of people don't have a handle on the positioning requirements necessary.
TLDR: Friends dont let friends Teemo top.
I think it's people bringing up ChampionSelect and seeing that "Garen is weak to: Teemo" and being all OMG i luv playing teemo must play! without having the skills to pull it off on that OP Spin2Win shitlord.
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Game 3, I get forced to AD again, this time *we've* got the Cait/Taric combo going, versus Corki/Lulu.
Level one, we get into lane, CS a bit, and then Taric DC's in the middle of the lane, giving Corki FB. Doesn't come back for a while, but wish he wouldn't since I think he was trolling. Often off solo-pushing and getting caught all the time around the enemy jungle.
Also had a AD Teemo who thought he was going to counter Garen somehow.
Face. Fucking. Desk. That was just depressing, since I had a four-game win streak going into that series.
The Teemo wins top thing is a silly myth going around. I have had SO many people want to play Teemo top. Anytime I le them, they die. A Lot. Teemo is not an instant win champion and a lot of people don't have a handle on the positioning requirements necessary.
TLDR: Friends dont let friends Teemo top.
I think it's people bringing up ChampionSelect and seeing that "Garen is weak to: Teemo" and being all OMG i luv playing teemo must play! without having the skills to pull it off on that OP Spin2Win shitlord.
That is correct. Except for the OP part. He really isn't any worse than any other top. Just people hardly play him so he can be rough to adjust to.
Yeah, but if you go by champselect, EVERY champion is weak against Teemo, and EVERY champion is strong against Teemo.
The thing with sites like champselect is that it is voted on by the whole playerbase. Can we all agree that the majority of the player base is not good enough to understand how counterpicks work and why? Even at 1500 elo I get 'counterpicked' and destroy them in lane because they don't understand things like 'go aggressive at 3 and zone him'. No, they let me farm until 6 when I destroy them.
tl;dr Don't use champselect, or sites that let the general playerbase vote on what works or doesn't.
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Manatank....Fizz? Tell me more. Im still quite fond of Cap > Lich > KILL EVERYTHING!
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Same as the rest. Manamune, frozenheart, Frozen fist, banshee veil
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edit: and the fifth was a Yi who didn't want to say what he was actually going to do in the game and thankfully I didn't pick a jungler because that was apparently what he was telepathically telling us he was going to do by not picking smite.
What is the point of being alive if you don't at least try to do something remarkable? ~ Mario Novak
I never fear death or dyin', I only fear never trying.
But, but, my 1.0 ratio on my ult!
E: Things I wish I could do. Liandrys on Fizz.
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I don't know. She is working very well with tank runes and masteries so far.
What is the point of being alive if you don't at least try to do something remarkable? ~ Mario Novak
I never fear death or dyin', I only fear never trying.
What is the point of being alive if you don't at least try to do something remarkable? ~ Mario Novak
I never fear death or dyin', I only fear never trying.
from a couple pages back
but what's the issue people are having? Quinn seems pretty solid visually
also,
"Hey all,
Earlier today we hotfixed in some updates to the League System. These changes are intended to address some valid complaints about the harshness and frequency of demotions as well as frustrations surrounding the discrepancy between LP gains and losses for many Division I players. We've also included a few bugfixes. Here's the full list:
- Increased the requirements for being demoted so that demotions will happen less frequently
- Increased the length of the demotion immunity grace period that occurs after being placed in a new division
- Players and teams that are demoted will now have 75 LP in the new division rather than 50
- Tweaked LP gains and losses for players and teams in Division I who haven't passed the additional checks to qualify for the next tier
--- LP changes from both wins and losses will now be reduced in this situation, rather than just wins
--- Reductions in LP changes will now kick in earlier and more gradually rather than only starting near 100 LP
- "Loss forgiven" during server issues will now prevent demotions as well as series losses
- Summoner name changes are now properly handled by the league system
- Fixed a bug that could occasionally cause players to gain more LP than expected in Challenger tier
As always, we'll be monitoring the effects of these changes and we'll be making further tweaks over the coming weeks, so feel free to post your thoughts on the current state of the system once you've had a chance to play some games.
Thanks and gl hf!"
XBL - Foreverender | 3DS FC - 1418 6696 1012 | Steam ID | LoL
Game 1 in the can. Was worried about this one, since it was back and forth for a while.
And then we remembered... how to dunk.
was there in spirit.
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Once again.
Promotion series.
Game 1:Win.
Game 2:Stupid team
Game 3:Afk.
I don't know why they didn't see how angry the LP would make people before they released it, but I guess it's okay now. It's also kind of funny to me how before Xypherous was presenting BOTRK as an alternative to MBR because MBR was bad, and now he's basically saying oh wait, BOTRK is also bad. It might work into a Tiger Udyr build well (as well as anything can work into Udyr these days).
i had two really good rumble games
and won both of them
and then the two games after that
i got into the loading screen and then it randomly stopped with everyone at a random loading percentage
but obviously ididnt realize this because who stays on the loading screen during loading
so i didnt realize game hadnt started, and i get in like 6-7 minutes late each time
getting back to gold is hard riot pls
Blood Moon Akali
Longhorn Alistar
Little Knight Amumu
Goth Annie
Annie in Wonderland
FrankenTibbers Annie
Panda Annie
Amethyst Ashe
Boom Boom Blitzcrank
Definitely Not Blitzcrank
Zombie Brand
Resistance Caitlyn
Arctic Warfare Caitlyn
Loch Ness Cho'Gath
Battlecast Prime Cho'Gath
Urfrider Corki
Dragonwing Corki
Corporate Mundo
Nottingham Ezreal
Pulsefire Ezreal
Surprise Party Fiddlesticks
Fisherman Fizz
Spooky Gangplank
Rugged Garen
Oktoberfest Gragas
Mafia Graves
Riot Graves
Snowmerdinger
Frost Queen Janna
Warring Kingdoms Jarvan IV
PAX Jax
Debonair Jayce
Slay Belle Katarina
Battleborn Kayle
Judgment Kayle
Kennen M.D.
Monarch Kog'Maw
Prestigious LeBlanc
Valkyrie Leona
Dragon Trainer Lulu
Spellthief Lux
Glacial Malphite
Haunted Maokai
Samurai Yi
Secret Agent Miss Fortune
Mafia Miss Fortune
Lord Mordekaiser
Sinful Succulence Morgana
Blackthorn Morgana
Riot K-9 Nasus
AstroNautilus
French Maid Nidalee
Ravager Nocturne
Haunting Nocturne
Demolisher Nunu
Perseus Pantheon
Full Metal Pantheon
Outback Renekton
Redeemed Riven
Professor Ryze
Dark Crystal Ryze
Yellow Jacket Shen
Ironscale Shyvana
Riot Squad Singed
PAX Sivir
Arcade Sona
Divine Soraka
Tyrant Swain
Dragonblade Talon
Bloodstone Taric
Super Teemo
Deep Terror Thresh
Riot Girl Tristana
Firefighter Tristana
Buccaneer Tristana
Lil' Slugger Trundle
Tango Twisted Fate
Gangster Twitch
Blight Crystal Varus
Heartseeker Vayne
Superb Villain Veigar
Vandal Vladimir
Big Bad Warwick
Volcanic Wukong
General Wukong
Scorched Earth Xerath
Commando Xin Zhao
Major Ziggs
Someone help me.
What is the point of being alive if you don't at least try to do something remarkable? ~ Mario Novak
I never fear death or dyin', I only fear never trying.
My impression was that she wasn't flashing cleavage therefore she cannot be a girl. I mean I'm sure there were some legitimate issues being raised but the overall tone came across as "BOOBIES".
Ugh...
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Jungle Volibear who I'm pretty sure didn't know how to jungle and a Soraka. In a lane versus Cait/Taric.
And she complains I wasn't aggressive enough.
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Soloqueue is annoying sometimes.
What is the point of being alive if you don't at least try to do something remarkable? ~ Mario Novak
I never fear death or dyin', I only fear never trying.
At least Alistar has godly peel, so he's not entirely wasted when being passive. Blitz's ENTIRE SUPPORT GAME is landing his hook.
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So bottom is feeding like a buffet. Come down like.. 2 or 3 times to hold their tower or save their Soraka after the Ez dies. ..And Ez pings me back and tells me to stop stealing his CS (When he is dead.) so I'm killing golems and he wanders over and kills them both right before they are dead. ....
Yah, I abandoned the fuck out of that lane. Total Soraka/Ez died 23 times. That was almost twice the number of deaths of the other 3 members of the team total. Our Morgana got pretty stompy on their mid Akali for most of the game but somehow Akali could still build enough burst to kill Ez/Soraka/Morgana with regularity.
So it was basically me and Malphite stomping around 2v5, killing 2 or 3 of them, then dying.
Game 3, I get forced to AD again, this time *we've* got the Cait/Taric combo going, versus Corki/Lulu.
Level one, we get into lane, CS a bit, and then Taric DC's in the middle of the lane, giving Corki FB. Doesn't come back for a while, but wish he wouldn't since I think he was trolling. Often off solo-pushing and getting caught all the time around the enemy jungle.
Also had a AD Teemo who thought he was going to counter Garen somehow.
Face. Fucking. Desk. That was just depressing, since I had a four-game win streak going into that series.
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1. All lanes lose. Hard.
2. We somehow hold our inhib towers
3. We teamfight way better than the other team
4. They get baron
5. We lose an inhib
6. We crush them in lategame teamfights
Seriously, 3 or 4 wins straight are this pattern.
The Teemo wins top thing is a silly myth going around. I have had SO many people want to play Teemo top. Anytime I le them, they die. A Lot. Teemo is not an instant win champion and a lot of people don't have a handle on the positioning requirements necessary.
TLDR: Friends dont let friends Teemo top.
Her armor looks to be mostly leather and cloth, so pretty standard for a ranger
also I don't really get the Jarv comparison, she's got a feather cape and doesn't have giant shoulders, maybe it's the helmet? Either way, she's a part of the Demacian army and she has a thing for J4, so similarities would be somewhat expected
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Friends let friends Teemo top.
Friends don't let random shitpubs Teemo top.
I think it's people bringing up ChampionSelect and seeing that "Garen is weak to: Teemo" and being all OMG i luv playing teemo must play! without having the skills to pull it off on that OP Spin2Win shitlord.
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That is correct. Except for the OP part. He really isn't any worse than any other top. Just people hardly play him so he can be rough to adjust to.
The thing with sites like champselect is that it is voted on by the whole playerbase. Can we all agree that the majority of the player base is not good enough to understand how counterpicks work and why? Even at 1500 elo I get 'counterpicked' and destroy them in lane because they don't understand things like 'go aggressive at 3 and zone him'. No, they let me farm until 6 when I destroy them.
tl;dr Don't use champselect, or sites that let the general playerbase vote on what works or doesn't.