I have to say. Mike and Jerry are pretty good at comedic performance as well as what they put down on paper. The important "Gold Chain" around Jerry's neck, the banter, the timing. All very well executed.
Blindfolds? More like 'blindboobies'.
Also, the link to Mike and Jerry has a really nice voice, did they hire a human satnav?
edit: and godspeed @Lexxy and @Mynt!
Kerschl and Stewart did some great designs for some Russian Assassins. Was hoping for some Chechens up in that piece.
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Awww yiss. I'm pumped about Strip Search, though I'm more excited for episodes where something happens. I totally ruined the first episode by watching every single teaser video =P
I'm not that fond of the drama-aspects of reality shows really, but I enjoyed watching something called Work of Art I watched a year ago. Looking at the artists' processes is always exciting, but god do I hate the drama and the tension.
The one episode of Project Runway I saw had people teaming up and one team was just a bunch of catty chodes being jerks behind each other's backs.
At least on FaceOff contestants will help each other out when they're in trouble even though it benefits their own work in absolutely no way.
Yeah I really like it when the people on the show are all just good friends who also happen to be competing for the same prize.
Top Chef gets that way on a couple seasons, and on others has people I can't stand.
True, it's the fabricated drama that puts me off reality TV. And the repetition.
There was a photography reality show that ran for a short while here in Australia that could have been really interesting if only the contestants were a cut above school teacher who occasionally takes holiday snaps.
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So is Technical Dave there going to "any old art school", or is this a commentary on some high brow well respected school? My understanding is that art school is like law, in that you have a couple "big names" and a whole lot of tier fifty.
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I'm not sure. I get the feeling he was attending one of the smaller schools rather than SCAD or Watts Atelier, but even those schools aren't going to do bunk if updating your webcomic is more important to you than learning. Everything he says should be taken with a grain of salt of course.
Some parts really struck a chord with me though. The part about not fitting in at first, but finally finding a group to mesh with after getting pushed back was almost exactly what happened to me when I dropped back a year due to my double degree.
So is Technical Dave there going to "any old art school", or is this a commentary on some high brow well respected school? My understanding is that art school is like law, in that you have a couple "big names" and a whole lot of tier fifty.
It looks like he's talking about Sheridan, which is a (last I checked) fairly well-respected art college in Canada, esp. for animation and illustration. @Tripwire and @McGibs and I think a couple other people around here went there, maybe they can give more detail.
So maybe that's what a decent art school is like, full of facts and normies; my college experience was in one of the tier 50's you mentioned, where the student population were comprised of a lot of stereotypes: roughly half were 'look at me I'm an artist can't you tell from my white guy waist-length dreds' weirdo types and half were well-meaning but mediocre normies who just wanted to teach elementary school art for a living, so putting a lot of effort into their art was seen as kind of a waste of time.
@Flay: You think Watts is big?? Watts is literally one room in an office building, divided by a short wall to make it into two tiny classrooms. You can fit maybe 50 people into it at any given time. It is the exact opposite of large.
It just happens to have a very high density of highly trained people compared to most larger schools. (Most of the people there are also non-pretentious non-weirdos, in case you were wondering).
I just really don't like how the big-name schools make their portfolio reviews extensively over-the-top with the requirements to get in. You can't just up and start, you have to already be pretty good at drawing/painting/etc. to begin with; the standards of acceptance are super high-bar.
Then you get there and it's all *POOF* yeah just do whatever.
Huh, okay. By the reputation I've gleaned from this place, I would've thought it was much bigger.
Well, I can see how you might assume that, if you were thinking of it like an actual college; if it started granting degrees, you'd have to have classes for teaching other non-art subjects, you'd have to have dorms, you'd have to have student facilities, cafeterias, post-graduate placement programs, sports teams, student clubs, financial aid offices, application screeners, health services, etc.- which would cost a lot of money, so you'd have to have to attract a lot more students just to be able to pay for it. If it were a college, it would have to be a lot larger just to make ends meet.
But it's not a college. It's a business, where the product being sold is classes teaching how to draw- and draw in a pretty specific way, at that- and that's it. Anything else is on your own time and dime. That means it can be the small size it is and still thrive, without diluting the resources/purpose of the school.
From the sounds of it Watts is a lot like the school I'm going to enroll in next year, although this one doesn't have any sort of illustration component, unfortunately.
Yeah, that seems like it's a pretty similar deal...heck, even the application/brochures are pretty similar.
I wouldn't sweat too much about not having an illustration-specific component, as the process and skills for a realistic fine art painting composition and a realistic illustration are basically the same.
The difference in illustration is really about having to do a bit more groundwork on things- seeking out and/or shooting more ref than you might normally, knowing anatomy well enough to invent it in the case of monsters, doing more studies on design of elements, putting more work into thumbnails, making sketches presentable enough to show to an art director, etc. A class is nice because it drives home the importance of these things, but these should be things that you should largely already be learning about through the rest of your schooling.
(Although a class is also nice because when you're with a bunch of other people painting orcs and shit, you're a bit less likely to begin to feel your painting of an alien priestess putting a dragon in a headlock is kind of a stupid way to spend 10 weeks, than if everyone around you was painting flowerpots or portraits of royalty. :P Kind of have to bring some self-confidence to the table under those circumstances.)
Dear, sweet baby Jesus's paddleball that was an awful day. I no longer feel like I'm going to die but if I don't get a literal fishtank sized drink of whatever I may disintegrate.
I will never take a glass of cold water for granted again.
If anyone gives me funny looks I'll look them in the eye, claim that I painted that priestess fighting a dragon from life, and calmly return to painting.
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I seriously lost it when Gabe started talking about traps in the house.
I still haven't watched it yet... Gonna check it out later tonight, but I'm soooo happy people are enjoying it so far
Edit: and @Lexxy isn't the house jerk... Trust me... Not even close
Also, the link to Mike and Jerry has a really nice voice, did they hire a human satnav?
edit: and godspeed @Lexxy and @Mynt!
Thats cool, but there are other less traveled settings that I would love to see.
Or Berlin during the split of West and East Germany.
Top Chef for one and Project Runway was actually pretty good when I saw it.
I like it when its competent people competing rather than just random/whoever reality shows.
At least on FaceOff contestants will help each other out when they're in trouble even though it benefits their own work in absolutely no way.
Yeah I really like it when the people on the show are all just good friends who also happen to be competing for the same prize.
Top Chef gets that way on a couple seasons, and on others has people I can't stand.
holy crap, dudes
True, it's the fabricated drama that puts me off reality TV. And the repetition.
There was a photography reality show that ran for a short while here in Australia that could have been really interesting if only the contestants were a cut above school teacher who occasionally takes holiday snaps.
I just got back from Figure drawing too, art filled day ftw.
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Some parts really struck a chord with me though. The part about not fitting in at first, but finally finding a group to mesh with after getting pushed back was almost exactly what happened to me when I dropped back a year due to my double degree.
It looks like he's talking about Sheridan, which is a (last I checked) fairly well-respected art college in Canada, esp. for animation and illustration. @Tripwire and @McGibs and I think a couple other people around here went there, maybe they can give more detail.
So maybe that's what a decent art school is like, full of facts and normies; my college experience was in one of the tier 50's you mentioned, where the student population were comprised of a lot of stereotypes: roughly half were 'look at me I'm an artist can't you tell from my white guy waist-length dreds' weirdo types and half were well-meaning but mediocre normies who just wanted to teach elementary school art for a living, so putting a lot of effort into their art was seen as kind of a waste of time.
@Flay: You think Watts is big?? Watts is literally one room in an office building, divided by a short wall to make it into two tiny classrooms. You can fit maybe 50 people into it at any given time. It is the exact opposite of large.
It just happens to have a very high density of highly trained people compared to most larger schools. (Most of the people there are also non-pretentious non-weirdos, in case you were wondering).
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Then you get there and it's all *POOF* yeah just do whatever.
Not much fun!
Well, I can see how you might assume that, if you were thinking of it like an actual college; if it started granting degrees, you'd have to have classes for teaching other non-art subjects, you'd have to have dorms, you'd have to have student facilities, cafeterias, post-graduate placement programs, sports teams, student clubs, financial aid offices, application screeners, health services, etc.- which would cost a lot of money, so you'd have to have to attract a lot more students just to be able to pay for it. If it were a college, it would have to be a lot larger just to make ends meet.
But it's not a college. It's a business, where the product being sold is classes teaching how to draw- and draw in a pretty specific way, at that- and that's it. Anything else is on your own time and dime. That means it can be the small size it is and still thrive, without diluting the resources/purpose of the school.
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I wouldn't sweat too much about not having an illustration-specific component, as the process and skills for a realistic fine art painting composition and a realistic illustration are basically the same.
The difference in illustration is really about having to do a bit more groundwork on things- seeking out and/or shooting more ref than you might normally, knowing anatomy well enough to invent it in the case of monsters, doing more studies on design of elements, putting more work into thumbnails, making sketches presentable enough to show to an art director, etc. A class is nice because it drives home the importance of these things, but these should be things that you should largely already be learning about through the rest of your schooling.
(Although a class is also nice because when you're with a bunch of other people painting orcs and shit, you're a bit less likely to begin to feel your painting of an alien priestess putting a dragon in a headlock is kind of a stupid way to spend 10 weeks, than if everyone around you was painting flowerpots or portraits of royalty. :P Kind of have to bring some self-confidence to the table under those circumstances.)
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