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Giant Bomb: video games, comic books, and other misogyny

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  • interrobanginterrobang kawaii as  hellRegistered User regular
    Nintendo is doomed
    Vann Diras wrote: »
    i like the MGS games because they're so unflinchingly earnest about the totally insane world that Kojima has built

    see kojima's particular brand of wacky does nothing for me. i don't find it entertaining at all

    and i absolutely hate the gameplay in every single one i've played so

    see i don't feel like "wacky" is the word i would use to describe Kojima's stuff

    it's all very absurd and bizarre and convoluted but it's all played completely straight and (most of the time) not at all for comedic value - i mean there are a few exceptions (MGR gets goofy as fuck at the very end but even then it's not really played for laughs)

    that's just how things are in this universe and i love it, it's auteur as fuck

  • GR_ZombieGR_Zombie Krillin It Registered User regular
    I think I remember Kojima saying that he knows genetics don't work that way, but Liquid is a crazy idiot who thinks they do.

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  • -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
    i mean, normally a game that possesses the sort of completely batshit mythos that MGS has would be much more self-aware and tongue-in-cheek about it

    NOPE

    it both is and isn't at the same time

    Speed made a great post about it
    The style of the metal gear games is never gonna appeal to a ton of people

    Kojima can never decide if he wants to tackle serious geopolitical issues or if he wants to show you robot ninjas suplexing nuclear mechs, and he can never decide if he wants the tone to be serious or self-parody. So he just... does all of that, all at once. He makes games about issues that you really don't see anywhere else but everything is so ham handed that it comes off as making fun if itself but then on the other hand the points that he's beating you over the head with are generally pretty valid. The metal gear games exist in such a weird crazy place that most people are just gonna be like what the fuck am I even looking at.

    But god help me I love them so so much.

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  • interrobanginterrobang kawaii as  hellRegistered User regular
    Nintendo is doomed
    yup speed nailed it, that's precisely why i love the MGS games

  • HugmasterGeneralHugmasterGeneral Poopmaster General YobuttRegistered User regular
    Microsoft is doomed
    Ya, the NK trip is why I bought a subscription and it was worth every penny. I think everyone, regardless of GiantBomb fanhood, owes it to themselves to listen to it

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  • DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    Sony is doomed
    I'd rather talk about the mass effect 3 ending than mgs why don't you guys just make a metal gear solid thread this thread is all about me and what I want

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  • el_vicioel_vicio Registered User regular
    Is that a real thing? Drew was really in North Korea?!

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  • DuxDux A host to DarknessRegistered User regular
    edited March 2013
    Metal Gear solid is so awesome you guys.

    I should play MGS 2 again, and get MGR when I have the money.

    Dux on
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  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    I'm with Vann, honestly. I played MGS 2 yeaaaars ago and liked it but then any other MGS game I have tried has been like nails on a chalkboard to me. I even tried playing MGS2 again and nope.

    I get why other people dig it, but it is such a fucking weird and insane universe and series that if you can't see why people wouldnt enjoy it you a goose.

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  • HugmasterGeneralHugmasterGeneral Poopmaster General YobuttRegistered User regular
    Microsoft is doomed
    el_vicio wrote: »
    Is that a real thing? Drew was really in North Korea?!

    Yes, and he came back with tons of pictures. It's unreal, and actually hilarious because of Ryan

  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Registered User regular
    Microsoft is doomed
    I can get why people wouldn't like MGS

    But denying the greatness of the Snake Eater theme song is just crazy talk

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  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    The theme song is a pretty good James Bond homage.

    But saying it is better than the best Bond intro is also crazy talk.

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  • AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    Nintendo is doomed
    it goes You Know My Name/Skyfall, then Snake Eater

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  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    Microsoft is doomed
    GR_Zombie wrote: »
    I think I remember Kojima saying that he knows genetics don't work that way, but Liquid is a crazy idiot who thinks they do.
    That's even better honestly

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  • Helpless RockHelpless Rock Registered User regular
    I'm finally getting around the playing Binary Domain.

    This game is super dumb, but I'm liking it. It also has one of the best late title cards in a game I've played.

    The dialogue mechanic is fucking terrible though. I have no idea what the reaction is going to be to the choices I have.

    "Where you expecting this Dan?"
    "Sure." "Damn." "Love you"

    What?
    BIG BO!

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  • Vann DirasVann Diras Registered User regular
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  • Vann DirasVann Diras Registered User regular
    Antimatter wrote: »
    it goes You Know My Name/Skyfall, then Snake Eater

    casino royale's intro was better too, i think

  • AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    Nintendo is doomed
    Vann Diras wrote: »
    Antimatter wrote: »
    it goes You Know My Name/Skyfall, then Snake Eater

    casino royale's intro was better too, i think

    ...you know my name is the casino royale song....

    vann...

  • PharezonPharezon Struggle is an illusion. Victory is in the Qun.Registered User regular
    I think the MGS games are a mixture of Kojima being incredibly astute at predicting world trends in politics and technology, insane, and being forced to work on these games for so long by Konami that it feeds back into the insane part.

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  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    Microsoft is doomed
    -Tal wrote: »
    i mean, normally a game that possesses the sort of completely batshit mythos that MGS has would be much more self-aware and tongue-in-cheek about it

    NOPE

    it both is and isn't at the same time

    Speed made a great post about it
    The style of the metal gear games is never gonna appeal to a ton of people

    Kojima can never decide if he wants to tackle serious geopolitical issues or if he wants to show you robot ninjas suplexing nuclear mechs, and he can never decide if he wants the tone to be serious or self-parody. So he just... does all of that, all at once. He makes games about issues that you really don't see anywhere else but everything is so ham handed that it comes off as making fun if itself but then on the other hand the points that he's beating you over the head with are generally pretty valid. The metal gear games exist in such a weird crazy place that most people are just gonna be like what the fuck am I even looking at.

    But god help me I love them so so much.

    metal gear rising is in part a game about how the first world exploits the third world for profit and doesn't give a shit how many people are killed in the process

    it is also a game where you fight and then befriend a robot dog with a chainsaw strapped to its back.

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  • interrobanginterrobang kawaii as  hellRegistered User regular
    Nintendo is doomed
    -Tal wrote: »
    i mean, normally a game that possesses the sort of completely batshit mythos that MGS has would be much more self-aware and tongue-in-cheek about it

    NOPE

    it both is and isn't at the same time

    Speed made a great post about it
    The style of the metal gear games is never gonna appeal to a ton of people

    Kojima can never decide if he wants to tackle serious geopolitical issues or if he wants to show you robot ninjas suplexing nuclear mechs, and he can never decide if he wants the tone to be serious or self-parody. So he just... does all of that, all at once. He makes games about issues that you really don't see anywhere else but everything is so ham handed that it comes off as making fun if itself but then on the other hand the points that he's beating you over the head with are generally pretty valid. The metal gear games exist in such a weird crazy place that most people are just gonna be like what the fuck am I even looking at.

    But god help me I love them so so much.

    metal gear rising is in part a game about how the first world exploits the third world for profit and doesn't give a shit how many people are killed in the process

    it is also a game where you fight and then befriend a robot dog with a chainsaw strapped to its back.

    a robot dog that loves wordplay

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  • Vann DirasVann Diras Registered User regular
    Antimatter wrote: »
    Vann Diras wrote: »
    Antimatter wrote: »
    it goes You Know My Name/Skyfall, then Snake Eater

    casino royale's intro was better too, i think

    ...you know my name is the casino royale song....

    vann...

    oh, i thought the way you listed it that was an alternate title for skyfall

    i don't know those themes by song title, i just know the intros collectively, visuals/song combined

  • KwoaruKwoaru Confident Smirk Flawless Golden PecsRegistered User regular
    I'm finally getting around the playing Binary Domain.

    This game is super dumb, but I'm liking it. It also has one of the best late title cards in a game I've played.

    The dialogue mechanic is fucking terrible though. I have no idea what the reaction is going to be to the choices I have.

    "Where you expecting this Dan?"
    "Sure." "Damn." "Love you"

    What?
    BIG BO!

    big bo is the best

    get the aug that increases the ease/frequency of people liking you and then proceed to shoot the fuck out of everything, you should get 2 or 3 compliments from your squad per pitched gun battle

    just watch out for them strafing in front of you for no reason

    also maybe somebody in here can confirm/deny: if i replay binary domain can i change the story at all in like a mass effect kinda way or is it all pretty much locked in

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  • TheStigTheStig Registered User regular
    Nintendo is doomed
    Antimatter wrote: »
    it goes You Know My Name/Skyfall, then Snake Eater

    You Know My Name doesn't do it for me, but I can Agree with Skyfall.

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  • Der Waffle MousDer Waffle Mous Blame this on the misfortune of your birth. New Yark, New Yark.Registered User regular
    edited March 2013
    Nintendo is doomed
    Kwoaru wrote: »
    I'm finally getting around the playing Binary Domain.

    This game is super dumb, but I'm liking it. It also has one of the best late title cards in a game I've played.

    The dialogue mechanic is fucking terrible though. I have no idea what the reaction is going to be to the choices I have.

    "Where you expecting this Dan?"
    "Sure." "Damn." "Love you"

    What?
    BIG BO!

    big bo is the best

    get the aug that increases the ease/frequency of people liking you and then proceed to shoot the fuck out of everything, you should get 2 or 3 compliments from your squad per pitched gun battle

    just watch out for them strafing in front of you for no reason

    also maybe somebody in here can confirm/deny: if i replay binary domain can i change the story at all in like a mass effect kinda way or is it all pretty much locked in

    I'm pretty sure most of it is
    who survives until the ending

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  • StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    edited March 2013
    Nintendo is doomed
    I love Wolf partly because it made me realize that MGSRR is the Casshern: Robot Hunter game I've always wanted.

    Stilts on
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  • Professor SnugglesworthProfessor Snugglesworth Registered User regular
    Microsoft is doomed
    rfilyaw wrote: »
    Ya, the NK trip is why I bought a subscription and it was worth every penny. I think everyone, regardless of GiantBomb fanhood, owes it to themselves to listen to it

    That sounds awesome and I will gladly watch it. Is there a date/link?

    Still wondering how the Video Buddy app works. It says I can download videos directly, but...I don't know how to do that.

    I'm also wondering if the site itself lets you favorite/queue videos, which would also be a handy feature.
    Stilts wrote: »
    I love Wolf partly because it made me realize that MGSRR is the Casshern: Robot Hunter game I've always wanted.

    I love Wolf because he is a robot wolf.

    What more do you need?

  • KwoaruKwoaru Confident Smirk Flawless Golden PecsRegistered User regular
    Kwoaru wrote: »
    I'm finally getting around the playing Binary Domain.

    This game is super dumb, but I'm liking it. It also has one of the best late title cards in a game I've played.

    The dialogue mechanic is fucking terrible though. I have no idea what the reaction is going to be to the choices I have.

    "Where you expecting this Dan?"
    "Sure." "Damn." "Love you"

    What?
    BIG BO!

    big bo is the best

    get the aug that increases the ease/frequency of people liking you and then proceed to shoot the fuck out of everything, you should get 2 or 3 compliments from your squad per pitched gun battle

    just watch out for them strafing in front of you for no reason

    also maybe somebody in here can confirm/deny: if i replay binary domain can i change the story at all in like a mass effect kinda way or is it all pretty much locked in

    I'm pretty sure most of it is
    who survives until the ending

    hmmrmr maybe I'll play it again on easy

    it was a fun enough shooter

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  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    Microsoft is doomed
    something weird to me about metal gear is

    metal gear itself

    like the reason that Metal Gear REX is supposed to be so terrifying is that it's a mobile platform for launching ICBMs.

    but if it's designed for launching ICBMs then why is it equipped to fight shit at close range. ICBMs are supposed to be fired from, you know, like, a continent away from the enemy

    and really the only part of REX that is needed for the ICBM firing is the rail gun

    wouldn't slapping that sucker onto like, a truck, make way more sense for that purpose

    i mean you know whatever it's all just a big excuse to have a Giant Fighting Robot in the game, but the games never really justified Metal Gear making all that much sense as a weapon

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  • GatsbyGatsby Registered User regular
    Nintendo is doomed
    While MGS may not cater to my gaming desires

    Fuck, do I love how insane it is

    Kwoaru
  • KwoaruKwoaru Confident Smirk Flawless Golden PecsRegistered User regular
    Gatsby wrote: »
    While MGS may not cater to my gaming desires

    Fuck, do I love how insane it is

    Yes I appreciate the existence of MGS as a thing I don't actively participate in

    I enjoy hearing about it

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  • StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    Nintendo is doomed
    Rising at least tries to justify giant robots with the codec calls for the final battle.

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  • Professor SnugglesworthProfessor Snugglesworth Registered User regular
    Microsoft is doomed
    something weird to me about metal gear is

    metal gear itself

    like the reason that Metal Gear REX is supposed to be so terrifying is that it's a mobile platform for launching ICBMs.

    but if it's designed for launching ICBMs then why is it equipped to fight shit at close range. ICBMs are supposed to be fired from, you know, like, a continent away from the enemy

    and really the only part of REX that is needed for the ICBM firing is the rail gun

    wouldn't slapping that sucker onto like, a truck, make way more sense for that purpose

    i mean you know whatever it's all just a big excuse to have a Giant Fighting Robot in the game, but the games never really justified Metal Gear making all that much sense as a weapon

    I believe they mentioned that the terrorists outfitted REX with weapons it wasn't meant to originally have in order to take out close-quarter oppositions.

    Either way it does make sense for the thing to be able to defend itself, if anyone gets in close to try and destroy it.

    Why it roars is a whole other story. Deterrence through fear I guess?

  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    Microsoft is doomed
    well it roars because it was designed by a dude that calls himself Otacon

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  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    Microsoft is doomed
    the same man who deliberately designed it to have a crippling weakness because it wouldn't have been interesting if it didn't have a character flaw

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  • KwoaruKwoaru Confident Smirk Flawless Golden PecsRegistered User regular
    wasn't he also really surprised/upset when they decided to shoot nukes using his walking tank that he had designed to shoot nukes

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  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited March 2013
    Microsoft is doomed
    the rail gun was originally designed as just a really powerful conventional weapon, ArmsTech modified it to fire nukes without telling him

    Otacon had designed REX to shoot down enemy ICBMs, not fire its own

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  • interrobanginterrobang kawaii as  hellRegistered User regular
    Nintendo is doomed
    iirc REX was also designed to be a completely paradigm-shifting threat

    it was built to be a weapon that the global community could not ignore because of how game-changing it was; it was a mobile ICBM-launching platform that could not be detected by radar and circumvented anti-proliferation treaties by bypassing the "ballistic" part of "intercontinental ballistic missile"

    beyond just being a weapon, it was meant to change the face of warfare completely

  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    Microsoft is doomed
    yeah but all of that stuff is true because of the railgun and not the giant fighting robot it's attached to

    though in fairness i did forget that it was otacon that made the thing so of course it's a god damn giant fighting robot

    my headcanon is now that he convinced the rest of ArmsTech that the giant fighting robot part of metal gear was somehow crucial to its ability to move and have a railgun attached to it for reasons that were "too technical for him to explain"

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