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[Mass Effect 3] Operation LODESTAR. Are you bad enough a dude/dudette to quad Platinum?

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    Blackbird SR-71CBlackbird SR-71C Registered User regular
    Sneakman wrote: »
    This image shows the Krogan Warlord and the Alliance Infiltration Unit (aka EDI), but what is the meteor-looking thing?

    http://blog.bioware.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Reckoning1.jpg

    Could it be a Hazard version of the Hydra map? Or maybe it's an orbital strike sort of power?

    Very good catch! Looks like I was right - we don't have the full details yet.

    What I predict (plausible):

    - New Hazards Maps
    - More classes then announced - in particular, new Salarian kits. There was a thread by Bioware on the BSN asking which characters we'd want to see, Salarians were number 1

    A new gamemode would just be the best thing ever, but I really think they'd have announced it today alongside the other great new features.

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    BlazeFireBlazeFire Registered User regular
    I really do hope we get hazard versions of the remaining maps, though new maps would have been sweet (looks like not in the cards, given promotional material).

    I was briefly annoyed with the weekend challenge since I am just about to wrap up Blood Pack mastery, but then I realized why it was called Tribute, and a smile came to my face.

    What kits all have inferno grenades?

    Batarian Soldier, Krogan Soldier according to http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Inferno_Grenade#Mass_Effect_3

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    Blackbird SR-71CBlackbird SR-71C Registered User regular
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    VicktorVicktor Infidel Castro Rancho ChupacabraRegistered User regular
    This was the weekend challenge I was hoping for. Although I had hoped they would have constrained you to playing a human soldier.

    It will be strange completing the Zaeed tribute using a Batarian... I know that inferno nades were Zaeed's signature ME2 power, but it will still be strange.

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    SneakmanSneakman Registered User regular
    edited February 2013
    Sneakman wrote: »
    This image shows the Krogan Warlord and the Alliance Infiltration Unit (aka EDI), but what is the meteor-looking thing?

    http://blog.bioware.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Reckoning1.jpg

    Could it be a Hazard version of the Hydra map? Or maybe it's an orbital strike sort of power?

    Very good catch! Looks like I was right - we don't have the full details yet.

    What I predict (plausible):

    - New Hazards Maps
    - More classes then announced - in particular, new Salarian kits. There was a thread by Bioware on the BSN asking which characters we'd want to see, Salarians were number 1

    A new gamemode would just be the best thing ever, but I really think they'd have announced it today alongside the other great new features.

    I'm surprised they didn't announce new maps, though maybe they are saving them for the livestream on Monday. I thought for sure we'd see Rannoch, Omega, Geth Ship and/or Eden Prime maps since those assets already exist in the single-player game.

    Just thinking about the Krogan Warlord's hammer; will it be a new weapon, or will it be exclusive to the Warlord, like the N7 Paladin's Omni-Shield? Probably the latter, but I'd love to see a Volus Vanguard toting one of those things.
    Vicktor wrote: »
    This was the weekend challenge I was hoping for. Although I had hoped they would have constrained you to playing a human soldier.

    It will be strange completing the Zaeed tribute using a Batarian... I know that inferno nades were Zaeed's signature ME2 power, but it will still be strange.

    Zaeed was against Batarians joining the Blue Suns, wasn't he? Hmmm, might have to go Krogan Soldier then. It's been a loooong time since I've played that class, should be fun.

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Which is why you do it as a krogan son!

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    DreadBertDreadBert Registered User regular
    TexiKen wrote: »
    I'd like it if they changed the Glacier hazard so that the swarm will explode if you shoot it enough, and basically being a free missile. It takes out anything in the area, players or enemies.

    Or if they removed the max size and let it hurt everything. Blasted thing can fill the docking bay as it is. Having it fill glacier would be amusing, briefly.

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    Maz-Maz- 飛べ Registered User regular
    Been reading up a bit on all the multiplayer stuff I've missed. Are those Multiplayer Challenge thingies retroactive? I stopped playing before they were introduced.

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Nope not retroactive.

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    VicktorVicktor Infidel Castro Rancho ChupacabraRegistered User regular
    edited February 2013
    But the Blue Suns didn't even have any Krogan!

    Now that I think about it, what better tribute can we pay Zaeed than playing the weekend as a Blue Suns Batarian Soldier using his rifle and his power?
    Fry, you son of a bitch.

    edit: Unless you count the Krogan that Okeer bred for Jedore.

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    Mild ConfusionMild Confusion Smash All Things Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    Mild Confusion you are the hitler of mass effect!

    Hey, Wrex shot first!
    Mordin was just a sympathetic fool.

    See I've never run a renegade run, and I've played through all 3 games like 10 times.

    Heh, my rational for what I do is cold, robotic calculation.
    There is no way the krogan can survive in the long term if we cure the genophage. They just breed too damn fast, live too damn long, and are just too damn resiliant. One krogan can live longer than an asari, have 1000 babies a year, and survive all manner of injuries. No matter how peaceful their intentions, sooner or later, overbreeding will either cause a mass extinction of krogan or another Kogan Rebellion. And what if they win that rebellion? There is only a limited number of habital worlds, even for the krogan, so them winning a second rebellion would only delay the inevitable extinction.

    Suppose you just put all krogan back on Tuchanka with no space travel, but cured of the genophage? They would still lose hundreds of millions of babies due to the harsh conditions and lack of resources or outbreed the planets ecosystem in a matter of decades and go extinct.

    What if we had incredibly strict reproductive restrictions and birth control and cured the genophage? It might work, but I predict it'd collapse. Imagine if a small number of krogan managed to set up a small colony on one of the worlds in the Terminus system? The Council races militaries are decimated after the Reaper War, yet the krogan are cured during the conflict and left to fight on multiple fronts. So even a small number of females would be able to set up a massive colony on some random world in only a matter of decades and the Council forces wouldn't be able to stop it, let alone even know about it. So birth control is a nice idea, but would fail in practice and we're back to either the krogan burning out an ecosystem, leading to extinction, or another krogan rebellion.

    Also, let's not forget how fucking awful the actual rebellions were. This is where I let in a bit of emotion. The krogan dropped asteroids on worlds, making them uninhabitable and killing billions of civilians; men, women, and children. There so so horrible, that the scars are still felt today. Matriarch Aethyta gives the best example: Years after the rebellions were done, her parents, a krogan and an asari, decided to be have a kid together and were apparently happy for a very long time. One day, they find out they fought against each other in a war. Despite being together, with I assume a loving relationship, for decades and having a child, they still decided to fight each other to the death, based on the horrors of the Krogan Rebellions. Leaving their daughter to live the rest of her life with no parents. How fucked up is a war that would make two parents do that to their only child?

    Fuck that. No way I'd risk the galaxy again. And for what? Curing the genophage doesn't actually make the krogan stronger, just gives them motivation. A SPECTRE report states that the galactic forces will collapse after exactly one year of fighting(it's in the game, check it out in the SPECTRE office terminal). Krogan may have 1000 babies a year, but they are still babies and wouldn't help in the actual conflict. Curing the genophage doesn't do a fucking thing for the Reaper War except convince the Krogan to fight. I can get the same result by lying to them. They shouldn't even need a reason to fight. Wrex's people will go extinct if they don't win the war. He's just being a selfish asshole, taking advantage of the desperate situation Shepard is in. One million people a day died on Earth and I assume a similar number on all the other planets the Reapers were on. How much time did Shepard waste on curing the Genophage? Two days? A week?

    Fuck Wrex. He wasn't ignorant to the threat the Reapers posed, he knew exactly what would happen if they won. Wrex wasn't a friend, he was a hawk.

    Mordin didn't want to cure the genophage because it was the right thing to do, he did it out of guilt, because miscarriages are horrible things. But he didn't think it though. He didn't think about all the dead babies and weeping mothers that would happen if he actually cured them, krogan or otherwise. Though I personally find it hard to believe that a species that evolved as prey animal and has 1000 babies a year, yet still manage to not outbreed a such a hostile planet, would have much emotional response to lost children. I imagine that the krogan had an extremely high infant mortality rate before the salarians uplifted them. I'm sure that kind of human emotion connection to a baby would be less strong in such a rapidly species that expects to either be eaten by a predator or killed by gunshot.

    The Krogan need the genophage. I did them a favor by sabatoging the cure.

    Mordin did make a mistake. That mistake was trying to cure the genophage.

    And yes, I am an evil fuck sometimes, but a necissary evil.

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    If two bat soldiers do a brofist kill on a mob it should net you a zaeed soundfile.

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    ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    now that i think of it, it's entirely possible that this weekend challenge is gonna be the first time i have ever used the avenger on anything other than the tutorial level

    i'm not sure i ever bothered with it in multi

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    Jesus McChristJesus McChrist Registered User regular
    My favorite kill is still Ballistic Blades - Gunfire - Hate Fist -> Blades explode as fist connects, resulting in head popping while body turns to giblets

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    TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    An Avengers with Marksman and armor piercing III equipment, that should make it rock and roll.

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    DeaderinredDeaderinred Registered User regular
    Wyborn wrote: »
    http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/323/index/15954108
    All good things must come to an end, and that includes the Commander Shepard trilogy. However, just because it is coming to an end, that doesn't mean we can't go out with a bang. Introducing the final Mass Effect 3 single-player DLC: Citadel!

    When a sinister conspiracy targets Commander Shepard, you and your team must uncover the truth, through battles and intrigue that range from the glamour of the Citadel’s Wards to the top-secret Council Archives. Uncover the truth and fight alongside your squad – as well as the cast from the original Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2.

    When the adventure is over, reconnect with your favorite characters from the Mass Effect Trilogy, try your luck at the Citadel’s Silver Coast Casino, blow off steam in the Armax Combat Arena, or explore and furnish Shepard’s own living quarters on the Citadel. With unique content and cinematics featuring your friends and romance interests in the Mass Effect trilogy, Mass Effect 3: Citadel offers one final chance to see the characters you have known for years and rekindle romances.

    Mass Effect 3: Citadel will release worldwide on March 5th on Xbox 360, PC and PS3 (on March 6th on PS3 in Europe).
    as well as the cast from the original Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2.

    OMFGYES!!111!

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    Maz-Maz- 飛べ Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    Nope not retroactive.

    Boo.

    I'm pretty sure I would've unlocked the majority of them if they were.

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    SneakmanSneakman Registered User regular
    For maximum Zaeed-ness, make sure your entire squad is killed during the extraction wave and earn the Lone Survivor medal.

    "I was the only one who made it out alive that day..."

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    DeaderinredDeaderinred Registered User regular
    TexiKen wrote: »
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    Hey look, Miranda, in the corner! (nobody puts Miranda in the corner)

    suits! classy!

    this is basically beachparty pre ending.

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Sneakman wrote: »
    For maximum Zaeed-ness, make sure your entire squad is killed during the extraction wave and earn the Lone Survivor medal.

    "I was the only one who made it out alive that day..."

    Well with everyone using bat soldiers and avengers that'll be really easy to accomplish.

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    Phoenix138Phoenix138 ArizonaRegistered User regular
    Any guesses on this weapon? It's being wielded by a Geth so perhaps it's the Spitfire. But then it does bear some resemblance to an Avenger so maybe gives some weight to the Lancer as Souped Up Avenger line of thought.
    26cXl

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    ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    edited February 2013
    It's got M7 on the side, so it's gotta be the Lancer.

    edit: http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Assault_Rifles

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    DeaderinredDeaderinred Registered User regular
    dlc is everything i wanted it to be from the sounds of it. holy shit i was scared for a moment we'd only get an arena or some shit.

    i putting down money that the arena is a vr one like PS in me1 but all the maps are whatever MP maps you've got installed.

    also hope that old discription of the mp dlc about new hazard maps and completely new maps/game modes are true too.

    havent been this excited about dlc for a long time, all comes out for my birthday too. thanks bioware.

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    ComradebotComradebot Lord of Dinosaurs Houston, TXRegistered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    Mild Confusion you are the hitler of mass effect!

    Hey, Wrex shot first!
    Mordin was just a sympathetic fool.

    See I've never run a renegade run, and I've played through all 3 games like 10 times.

    Heh, my rational for what I do is cold, robotic calculation.
    There is no way the krogan can survive in the long term if we cure the genophage. They just breed too damn fast, live too damn long, and are just too damn resiliant. One krogan can live longer than an asari, have 1000 babies a year, and survive all manner of injuries. No matter how peaceful their intentions, sooner or later, overbreeding will either cause a mass extinction of krogan or another Kogan Rebellion. And what if they win that rebellion? There is only a limited number of habital worlds, even for the krogan, so them winning a second rebellion would only delay the inevitable extinction.

    Suppose you just put all krogan back on Tuchanka with no space travel, but cured of the genophage? They would still lose hundreds of millions of babies due to the harsh conditions and lack of resources or outbreed the planets ecosystem in a matter of decades and go extinct.

    What if we had incredibly strict reproductive restrictions and birth control and cured the genophage? It might work, but I predict it'd collapse. Imagine if a small number of krogan managed to set up a small colony on one of the worlds in the Terminus system? The Council races militaries are decimated after the Reaper War, yet the krogan are cured during the conflict and left to fight on multiple fronts. So even a small number of females would be able to set up a massive colony on some random world in only a matter of decades and the Council forces wouldn't be able to stop it, let alone even know about it. So birth control is a nice idea, but would fail in practice and we're back to either the krogan burning out an ecosystem, leading to extinction, or another krogan rebellion.

    Also, let's not forget how fucking awful the actual rebellions were. This is where I let in a bit of emotion. The krogan dropped asteroids on worlds, making them uninhabitable and killing billions of civilians; men, women, and children. There so so horrible, that the scars are still felt today. Matriarch Aethyta gives the best example: Years after the rebellions were done, her parents, a krogan and an asari, decided to be have a kid together and were apparently happy for a very long time. One day, they find out they fought against each other in a war. Despite being together, with I assume a loving relationship, for decades and having a child, they still decided to fight each other to the death, based on the horrors of the Krogan Rebellions. Leaving their daughter to live the rest of her life with no parents. How fucked up is a war that would make two parents do that to their only child?

    Fuck that. No way I'd risk the galaxy again. And for what? Curing the genophage doesn't actually make the krogan stronger, just gives them motivation. A SPECTRE report states that the galactic forces will collapse after exactly one year of fighting(it's in the game, check it out in the SPECTRE office terminal). Krogan may have 1000 babies a year, but they are still babies and wouldn't help in the actual conflict. Curing the genophage doesn't do a fucking thing for the Reaper War except convince the Krogan to fight. I can get the same result by lying to them. They shouldn't even need a reason to fight. Wrex's people will go extinct if they don't win the war. He's just being a selfish asshole, taking advantage of the desperate situation Shepard is in. One million people a day died on Earth and I assume a similar number on all the other planets the Reapers were on. How much time did Shepard waste on curing the Genophage? Two days? A week?

    Fuck Wrex. He wasn't ignorant to the threat the Reapers posed, he knew exactly what would happen if they won. Wrex wasn't a friend, he was a hawk.

    Mordin didn't want to cure the genophage because it was the right thing to do, he did it out of guilt, because miscarriages are horrible things. But he didn't think it though. He didn't think about all the dead babies and weeping mothers that would happen if he actually cured them, krogan or otherwise. Though I personally find it hard to believe that a species that evolved as prey animal and has 1000 babies a year, yet still manage to not outbreed a such a hostile planet, would have much emotional response to lost children. I imagine that the krogan had an extremely high infant mortality rate before the salarians uplifted them. I'm sure that kind of human emotion connection to a baby would be less strong in such a rapidly species that expects to either be eaten by a predator or killed by gunshot.

    The Krogan need the genophage. I did them a favor by sabatoging the cure.

    Mordin did make a mistake. That mistake was trying to cure the genophage.

    And yes, I am an evil fuck sometimes, but a necissary evil.
    I'm sorry, but you're basing your decision on what happened, what... a few thousand years ago? Wrex is a true visionary, and has a few centuries of life left to insure the Krogan get on the right track. He's never been anything but honest to Shepherd, and he's proven several times that his authority is completely respected among the Krogan.

    The fact that he's "being selfish"? The Krogan's hand was forced first. Maybe if the Krogan were fully focused on breeding, it wouldn't be an issue, but the genophage has also caused serious psychological damage. They go off and look to die in a blaze of glory because they're under the impression they're a doomed race anyways. Perhaps it's self fulfilling, but the Krogan are getting smaller and smaller in numbers every generation and WILL go extinct if something isn't done. If you don't cure the genophage but still get the Krogan to fight, it's just that many more who won't be around to try and breed the next generation. You didn't do them any favors, you signed their death warrant and caused the death of the one man who was capable of guiding them to something more than what they were during the rebellions. There's one, and only one, way the Krogan don't go extinct and that's if Shep cures the genophage. I absolutely cannot blame Wrex for doing the one thing he can to save his people. In fact, him demanding it is the only necessary evil.

    If Wrex isn't alive, sure, they're already fucked and will return to the old ways if cured. But with Wrex in charge? Slim to no chance.

    As for Matriarch Aethyta being the "best example"... no, that's a crap example. You cannot judge an entire species off the actions of a single member of that species and his wife of a different species. That's just silly.

    As is killing Wrex over paranoid fears that he'll just let the Krogan run rampant if they're cured. You doomed a race to extinction over your personal distrust, that's hardly a necessary evil.

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    Blackbird SR-71CBlackbird SR-71C Registered User regular
    "The Geth Juggernaut has reduced mobility so he moves slowly, can't evade, and can't take cover. To compensate, he has significantly more defenses than anyone else and has a few special abilities to help him deflect damage and be more survivable."

    ("Can you confirm if he has the same charging power that he had in ME1? Because I'm currently playing through that game for the first time, and when those guys run at me a nearly **** my britches.")

    "No, he can't charge."

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    ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    yep, he's got the volus mechanics

    it'll be interesting to see how he stays alive at all

    defense matrix?

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    SneakmanSneakman Registered User regular
    i putting down money that the arena is a vr one like PS in me1 but all the maps are whatever MP maps you've got installed.

    Yeah, the Armax Arena sounds like a mode where you play through MP-style maps and waves with Shepard and squadmates. Pinnacle Station done right. Ooooh, what if you could earn MP unlocks by playing it?

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    SneakmanSneakman Registered User regular
    Phoenix138 wrote: »
    Any guesses on this weapon? It's being wielded by a Geth so perhaps it's the Spitfire. But then it does bear some resemblance to an Avenger so maybe gives some weight to the Lancer as Souped Up Avenger line of thought.
    26cXl

    Definitely looks like the M7 Lancer to me. I just started a new ME1 playthrough and I'm pretty sure that's what the gun looks like.

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    Blackbird SR-71CBlackbird SR-71C Registered User regular
    edited February 2013
    - Biotic Hammer is specific to the Krogan Warlord
    - Geth has to walk around cover

    Edit:

    "So... would one of those defenses be sync-kill immunity? Would a phantom sword to the knee be fatal? :S"

    "Maybe..."

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    Phoenix138Phoenix138 ArizonaRegistered User regular
    I can picture that animation being full of clip-throughs.

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    EnderEnder Registered User regular
    Orca wrote: »
    Adept-Shep with Annhilation Field.

    Yessssssss...

    I believe you misspelled Vanguard there.

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    Mild ConfusionMild Confusion Smash All Things Registered User regular
    TexiKen wrote: »
    Just skimming through the Bioware board, and there's already a theory about the SP DLC, with pictures so it's real, maybe!
    Apparently Shepard here has a scar on his jaw:

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    someone cleaned it up:

    shep_zpsbd09425c.png

    and then this kicked it off:

    mass-effect-3-extended-cut-pc-ps3-xbox-360-screenshots-1_zps007c7f64.jpg

    if this was playable as both in game and post-destroy, that would be pretty damn cool

    Unfortunatly, that scar is standard for renegade Vanderloo Sheps. So it has nothing to do with the ending and it's just a Shepard that made a few renegade choices.

    Sneakman wrote: »
    Zaeed was against Batarians joining the Blue Suns, wasn't he? Hmmm, might have to go Krogan Soldier then. It's been a loooong time since I've played that class, should be fun.

    Get a knife in just and you can pry that forehead plate right off a krogan. Just the threat of it drives them mad.

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    ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    "So... would one of those defenses be sync-kill immunity? Would a phantom sword to the knee be fatal? :S"

    "Maybe..."
    maybe not fatal, but probably a season ender, if not a career ender

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    AcharenusAcharenus Registered User regular
    Time to start saving creds then. This sounds awsome.

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    DeaderinredDeaderinred Registered User regular
    edited February 2013
    TexiKen wrote: »
    Citadel is 4 gigs total.

    That's a lot of content (and maybe, just maybe, there's something after the ending we haven't been told...)

    i'm hoping this means (me3 end game spoilers)
    a slightly revamped london, with prior squad helping out with tougher areas and they dont tell anyone about this so its a total fucking shock when you get to it.

    theres a lot of shit you can have in that 4gigs. i mean omega was 2 gigs...

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    Jesus McChristJesus McChrist Registered User regular
    Being sync killed is a structual weakness.

    Geth do not do this.

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    SneakmanSneakman Registered User regular
    Info on the timeline for the Citadel DLC from Jessica Merizan's twitter:
    Jessica Merizan
    You can start anytime after the Citadel Coup and before Cerberus Base.

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    BrocksMulletBrocksMullet Into the sunrise, on a jet-ski. Natch.Registered User regular
    edited February 2013
    "Michael Gamble @GambleMike 2h
    We're also extremely privileged to have worked with the late Robin Sachs on the Citadel DLC. #ZaeedForever"

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    Blackbird SR-71CBlackbird SR-71C Registered User regular
    edited February 2013
    "Any new modes or maps for MP dlc?"

    BW: "No, but some cool additions to round out the experience."

    "Not even hazard versions of the old maps?"

    BW: "No. We're adding some new kits and weapons."

    Source:

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    Jesus McChristJesus McChrist Registered User regular
    Wait. New character cards mean my pain in the ass promotions grind should get a little bit easier.

    if you can read this i hope you have a good day partner
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