[DnD 4E] The Extraordinaries (Discussion Thread)

Denada

Mercenaries. Vigilantes. Heroes. Problems. Five of the most influential adventurers in Khorvaire. You're called a lot of things by a lot of people. One thing everyone can agree on? You're extraordinary.

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This is the out-of-character/discussion/character creation/general housekeeping thread for The Extraordinaries, a PbP game using the Dungeons & Dragons Fourth Edition rules. By being generous and donating money to sick children, @Stilts won a Solid Saints auction that allowed him to pick a game and have me run it, which he did. He got to pick the party too, which he did.

So @Stilts, @Pony, @Dubh, @Dichotomy, and @Caulk Bite 6, it's time to get your characters set up. You can use either Myth-Weavers or Orokos for your sheets, I don't care which.

Technical Details
-You're level 11.
-Standard 22-point buy for stats.
-We are using Inherent Bonuses.
-Standard starting wealth: (1) Level 12 Item, (1) Level 11 Item, (1) Level 10 Item, 5000 gp.
-All Eberron and general material is allowed. Stuff that's specific to another setting (Spell Scars, Defilers, Thri-Kreen, etc) is not.

Go ahead and start building those characters. I'm available for questions and technical help. I'll start the game shortly after everyone is satisfied with their PCs.

Pony

how do i export a character from character builder that you can look at?

Denada

In the offline builder, you go to the character summary tab. In the online builder, I believe it's either in the character management part, or it's an option when you "print" your character sheet.

Gatsby

In the online builder you have to "Load" your character and from the selection window you can pick a character and export it from there to your computer.

Pony

alright, I did that. Now what?

Denada

If it gave you a .dnd4e file, you can then go to orokos.com and upload it.

Pony

also I don't understand how Inherent Bonuses work. I clicked the ticky box but what do they mean?

Denada

They're a standard bonus to attacks, damage, and defenses based on your level. Basically it just frees me up to give you interesting items instead of always keeping up with the pluses.

Pony

do those bonuses only supercede item bonuses or do they replace feats or what?

i'm confused about this

Denada

They are [enhancement] bonuses that are an inherent part of your character rather then being the result of what you have equipped (hence the name Inherent Bonuses). They don't rely on any feats or anything. Mechanically, they replace the need for me to give you a +2 Longsword at level 11. They are always on, take up no character resources, and should be automatically included in the calculations for your powers and whatnot in the character builder.

When comparing your Inherent Bonus to the enhancement bonus granted by a magic item, you always use the better of the two.

Caulk Bite 6

I'm highly tempted to take the Dragonrider armor, if only for those times when we might be peering over a very tall ledge at a bunch of enemies, then I leap over it with a cry of "Meet me down there, my friends!" and land with no damage.

very situational, but still tempting. Also Sharn is a thing.

Denada

I don't feel like I'm spoiling anything by saying that an ability like that could very well be useful, probably more than once.

Caulk Bite 6

well, that's settled. though it is a daily.

hm.

Dichotomy

I'm just going to go ahead and assume that given the context of this campaign that every time I look at something ridiculous and think "there is no way that's ever going to be relevant" in actuality it is going to be frequently relevant

Denada

I think that's probably a safe bet. If you see an item and go "When is that going to ever come up" just picture me going "Weeellll..."

Except for encumbrance. I don't ever bother with that because we're not playing Dungeons & Donkeys.

But otherwise yeah, there's going to be some crazy stuff happening.

Stilts

Denada wrote: »

I think that's probably a safe bet. If you see an item and go "When is that going to ever come up" just picture me going "Weeellll..."

Except for encumbrance. I don't ever bother with that because we're not playing Dungeons & Donkeys.

But otherwise yeah, there's going to be some crazy stuff happening.

Oh thank God!

I once had a GM who made us figure out the weight of a horde of gold pieces we had acquired after killing the monster that had gathered it.

We had to put it into sacks and drag it around with a cart in order to actually use it to buy stuff.

Also, I uploaded my character sheet. I can use Dragonshards on implements, right?

Now to start working on a physical description of my character.

Pony

alright here is the build i made feel free to criticize:

http://orokos.com/dnd4e/sheets/5395

Caulk Bite 6

so, I found an awesome item synergy.

I took Belt of Blood as my level 10 item and bought Cloak of the Walking Wounded +2. Belt of Blood lets you add your con mod to healing surges if you're bloodied and the cloak lets you expend two healing surges (gaining hp from both) on a second wind, while bloodied.

I have 95hp and 10 con mod, and my normal surge value is 23. if I get put down to a third of my health, I can second wind for 66hp, or roughly back to full.

Doobh

I'll get mine up tonight. Have to do some driving after class.

Caulk Bite 6

and here we go.

http://orokos.com/dnd4e/sheets/5396

Stilts

@Gatsby

Zeel's scale texture and color is similar to that of an iguana. He has identical frills, too, which start at the back of his head and grow smaller until they vanish halfway down his tail. His eyes are red like fire, and a scar runs horizontally along the left side his neck thanks to an unfortunate encounter with an arrow trap.

He wears teal robes (like this) and wears the ritual knife he found as a necklace. Both the blade and hilt of the knife are carved from stone; the hilt has the shape of a simple, highly-symbolized dragon.

Caulk Bite 6

although, looking at it, I can't recall why I thought Int would be a better stat than Dex. might change that, if only because of better init.

Doobh

My minotaur is shaping up to use crossbowkata

There's totally needleguns introduced in an issue of dragon, but they're outside my price range, and probably don't fit in with the setting.

Caulk Bite 6

alright, changed it up a bit. should be better now.

Caulk Bite 6

Caulk Bite 6 wrote: »

Caulk Bite 6 wrote: »

so, I found an awesome item synergy.

I took Belt of Blood as my level 10 item and bought Cloak of the Walking Wounded +2. Belt of Blood lets you add your con mod to healing surges if you're bloodied and the cloak lets you expend two healing surges (gaining hp from both) on a second wind, while bloodied.

I have 95hp and 10 con mod, and my normal surge value is 23. if I get put down to a third of my health, I can second wind for 66hp, or roughly back to full.

oh fuck I just realised something

I was looking at my con check, not the mod. I didn't think that looked right

still, +56 health from bloodied is great anyway.

Pony

anything fits in with eberron

if you're creative enough

Caulk Bite 6

well, denada did say that setting specific things were out.

Caulk Bite 6

oh wait, that's a thing from Dragon? pfft. of course it'd work.

Dichotomy

aaaaaa this is my character I have no idea what I'm doing and it is likely extremely non-optimal

Stilts

Dichotomy wrote: »

aaaaaa this is my character I have no idea what I'm doing and it is likely extremely non-optimal

Good stat distribution, very nice choice of feats and skills, and you picked some of the absolute best Cleric abilities for those levels (Sacred Flame, Bane, Astral Condemnation, and Consecrated Ground). Your NADs aren't so great, but that's inevitable when playing a WIS-CHA cleric.

That build'll do fine, Dich.

Dichotomy

Stilts wrote: »

Your NADs aren't so great-

well that's awfully crass

Stilts

Dichotomy wrote: »

Stilts wrote: »

Your NADs aren't so great-

well that's awfully crass

I initially considered just typing out the whole phrase.

But then I decided the acronym is just way too fun to not use.

Caulk Bite 6

Caulk Bite 6 wrote: »

and here we go.

http://orokos.com/dnd4e/sheets/5396

So I retooled this a bit, since posting it. could use a critiquing.

Aegis

Caulk Bite 6 wrote: »

Caulk Bite 6 wrote: »

and here we go.

http://orokos.com/dnd4e/sheets/5396

So I retooled this a bit, since posting it. could use a critiquing.

From an outsider's perspective, I'd probably looks into dropping Skill Training (Dungeoneering) and picking up a background that gives you the same thing (the ability to pick Dungeoneering as a class skill) so that it frees you up a feat for something that has a bit more heft.

Though you'd likely have to move some trainings around to take advantage of it, depending.

Doobh

I'll have to wait for 26,000 gold for the needleguns, then

they're just too perfect

character sheet almost done

Doobh

Okay, first draft of my character

I would love some input from any of you folks 'round here

Aegis

Crossbow Expertise would give you another +2 to attack. Also lets you ignore cover on enemies.

Stilts

Dubh wrote: »

Okay, first draft of my character

I would love some input from any of you folks 'round here

I'd replace Weapon Focus (Crossbow) for Crossbow Expertise. In virtually all circumstances, gaining a bonus on your attack roll is better than gaining an equal bonus on your damage. Plus, the expertise feat lets you ignore partial and superior cover with your crossbow attacks.

I'm also not so sure about Far Shot. With Crossbow Savant, you've already got a range of 15 squares on your hand crossbow, which is pretty large. While being able to attack from very long ranges can be nice, you also generally want to stick close to the party (you don't want to outrange the cleric, after all). That said, it does fit with your backstory really well and could be situationally useful, so I'm not gung-ho about dumping it.

Other than that, it looks good.

EDIT: Beaten so hard.

Aegis

He gets Far Shot for free as being a Sharpshooter Rogue.

Stilts

Aegis wrote: »

She gets Far Shot for free as being a Sharpshooter Rogue.

Ooooooh.

Whoops!

Doobh

Aegis wrote: »

He gets Far Shot for free as being a Sharpshooter Rogue.

It's she ><

I'll switch out for expertise, then