Placed him next to Sully, with no prior relationship, and had him attack the boss of Episode 5, an asshole riding a wyvern. The pre-battle prediction said I would take the rider down to about 2/3 of his current health, and Lon'Qu would be near death, but I didn't have much of a choice, since the wyvern could chase down just about anyone in my army, and everyone else had used their turns to wipe out the rest of the surrounding enemies.
I haven't used the simplified prediction much, but I remember not liking it. Does it even show the crit and hit chances?
Placed him next to Sully, with no prior relationship, and had him attack the boss of Episode 5, an asshole riding a wyvern. The pre-battle prediction said I would take the rider down to about 2/3 of his current health, and Lon'Qu would be near death, but I didn't have much of a choice, since the wyvern could chase down just about anyone in my army, and everyone else had used their turns to wipe out the rest of the surrounding enemies.
I haven't used the simplified prediction much, but I remember not liking it. Does it even show the crit and hit chances?
It definitely shows hit chance. I can't remember if it shows crit chance.
So there's definitely a tipping point where Donnel turns from fragile liability into unstoppable death tornado. He's pretty frightening.
In my game I reclassed Donnel at ~11 without knowing he got a second skill at 15. Took him to Mercenary 10 before reclassing back to Villager to get the second skill. He is now the most terrifying Villager on the planet.
However, I noticed his stat-ups at level are basically nil at this point. Is there a stat gain cap per class?
So there's definitely a tipping point where Donnel turns from fragile liability into unstoppable death tornado. He's pretty frightening.
In my game I reclassed Donnel at ~11 without knowing he got a second skill at 15. Took him to Mercenary 10 before reclassing back to Villager to get the second skill. He is now the most terrifying Villager on the planet.
However, I noticed his stat-ups at level are basically nil at this point. Is there a stat gain cap per class?
yep. Anything glowing green on his stat page is capped, and villager has pretty low caps.
So I played this game on release up to around chapter 11 (
The chapter where Chrom gets married, and I married the Dancer
) and now I want to play it again.
Now here's my problem. I keep reading that Donnel is a killing machine at some point, but I haven't leveled him at all so he's pretty low level right now. What would be the most efficient way to level him up now that I'm at Chapter 12?
It's amusing how many characters go from great to not usable at all in the hard to lunatic transition. it's like hard mode in FE6 where you can't rate characters as good and not as good anymore, it's the question of can this character even be used? since for most of them the answer is no, they can't.
And you know what I miss from the older titles? The Rescue command. Pair Up is great, but it wouldn't matter if I had Nah support her, there's no way to really protect a Dancer in this game after she performs her action
It's amusing how many characters go from great to not usable at all in the hard to lunatic transition. it's like hard mode in FE6 where you can't rate characters as good and not as good anymore, it's the question of can this character even be used? since for most of them the answer is no, they can't.
The offensive stats and speed of enemies is way jacked up in Lunatic, yeah. Pegasus knights in particular should just be reclassed straight away, cos with all the arrows and wind magic flying around it's more hassle than it's worth. I kind of regret taking advantage of sorcerers and Nosferatu in my game though, I'm going to try and avoid that if at all feasible for Luna+.
I admit I didn't even bother with the Rally commands on Normal.
I was having some trouble on Lost Bloodlines 2 on Hard so I gave myself Rally Spectrum and Rally Strength exclusively and holy Hell that makes a difference
Thinking of making Lon'qu-fathered Yarne into a Swordmaster like his pops, partially for flavor and partially for what will end up being 63 speed (!!!)
Only thing about romancing Lucina is that Morgan is the only kid I get, so she's the only really viable super rally bot I have. And damned if I want to leverage her that way
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And you know what I miss from the older titles? The Rescue command. Pair Up is great, but it wouldn't matter if I had Nah support her, there's no way to really protect a Dancer in this game after she performs her action
I've desired the shove command here and there from Radiant Dawn. Even though it's probably less than half as useful than Rescue.
Buy Reeking Boxes. Use them on the Prologue or Chapter 1. Pair him up with your Avatar, Chrom, or Frederick.
Reap the whirlwind.
Well, I played a bit during my lunch break at work and got Donnel up from level 2 to level 8 using Reeking Boxes. Thanks for the tip, will keep leveling him tonight .
Buy Reeking Boxes. Use them on the Prologue or Chapter 1. Pair him up with your Avatar, Chrom, or Frederick.
Reap the whirlwind.
Well, I played a bit during my lunch break at work and got Donnel up from level 2 to level 8 using Reeking Boxes. Thanks for the tip, will keep leveling him tonight .
When I first got Donny, the best way I found was to do the math and get him last hits. Especially do this on boss/leader units (last hitting those tend to give him upwards of 100xp).
Time and resources are super precious though! Don't you know there's a war going on?! And Severa is nicer to and invested in more of the cast than Anna, Tiki and Say'ri, as well as the dumb spotpass paralogue characters, who for the most part should be disregarded as non-canon (imo).
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Know what would have been a better course of action? Saying to Chrom, Fred and the avatar "Yo, in my future you betrayed Chrom. Maybe let's plan for some contingencies?"
And more likely Chrom would have Lucina imprisoned cos he's a dumbass justice freak who's all about the power of friendship, if Morgan doesn't straight up kill her first. And do they have the exalted falchion? Lucina only confronts the avatar after the fire emblem is stolen, and he's the one who steals it back. I could be misremembering that though.
There's a war on, yes. But HE'S NOT THE ONE IN CHARGE OF THE BUDGET. And if he could stop being a micromanaging dickweed and let the actual strategists do their job, everyone would be much happier.
Well, Lucina knew her father well enough to be sure he'd turn her down. I mean, just a couple scenes before he refused to let the Avatar stay home for the whole bit. At the same time, he's not so bloody stupid as to lock up one of his best soldiers just for suggesting contingencies. He didn't lock her up for actual attempted murder.
So, she jumps straight to murder plan stabby because nobody else would be up to it, and she's taking the weight for the world. Also worth remembering is how nobody else had any idea Grima hitched a ride, and using anyone other than the present day avatar was pretty heavy in backup plan territory for team evil.
And Wyborn? Don't worry. There are spotpass and DLC characters that are even better rallybots than Morgan, allowing her to pursue her true calling in the field of violence.
Any character who can learn rally strength, heart and spectrum?
Without inheritance?
Yeah. Two of them in the DLC. One isn't out yet in the states, admitted, and both take some wrangling to get, but Palla and Katarina both come with Rally Strength. All you have to do is beat Roster Rescue with all the pages collected.
On an unrelated note, was looking up FE6 last night out of idle curiousity, and MAN. That game has some boring cast members. I mean, it's even more obvious in the light of Post-Awakening day, when we're used to the entire cast being well written, and most of them psycho, but Roy, Alan, Lance, Marcus, Bors, Wendy... the list goes on for some time of people who are duller than dishwater. And it's not even "Basically sane, cares about bringing everyone home alive" since that describes Lucina, and she's terrific.
Supports have come a long way. All I can say on the matter.
7 and 8 were dramatic improvements, even if I didn't really care for ones in 8 that much. I don't even think there are paired endings in 6 it's been so long I forgot.
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There aren't. But to be honest, does anyone care? There is nothing to make me care about any pair of characters in FE6
I played FE 6 for completionist's sake, but it wouldn't exactly recommend it to anyone who started with Awakening and wants to play more FE games. It's just lacking too many features and feels slightly unpolished.
Morgan's abs don't beat Kjelle's abs, I have it on good authority. Still got a shit-ton of supports to see, but I don't think I'd put down sadistic and cruel sense of humour as positive character traits :P Lucina is far from the nicest person in the game though, she's just polite and oblivious to jokes.
You seen what Lucina does on her downtime?
Pretty much spends all of it helping around the camp if anyone needs anything. She tells Yarne that he doesn't have to worry since she'll watch his back, and she follows through. Risks her life for a coward without criticizing him once. She's the only person who eats with Kjelle (who she talks into valuing the rest of the army).
And Morgan's abs might not be AS good, but they're pretty impressive. 1,000 sit ups at a time before doing anything fun. This is one of her IRONCLAD RULES.
I figure she gets her fix of bear meat by hunting down the bears and ripping out their throats with her teeth.
Lucina is hard working and dutiful, I'll grant you. She's committed to her goal of making a better future, and does everything she can to further that goal.
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Consequently, she's pretty okay with killing you in cold blood unless you're her mother or partner.
I don't know if that makes her nicer than say, Lissa or Gregor (or Emmeryn). Or Laurent and Cynthia, of the second gen.
And fair play to Morgan, 1000 sit ups is no fuckin' joke.
She's not exactly gung ho for the murder plan. She admits it's evil, that it's unforgivable. She just files it as necessary, because as she sees it, it's YOU or EVERYONE ELSE. So, if it has to be done, she's taking the weight. She's not okay with it. She's not forgiving herself for it. She's just doing it, because it's the necessary.
As for the other candidates, Lissa's a big fan of shoving frogs in people's beds to hear them scream, Gregor kills people for money, Cynthia puts "BE THE HERO" above other people's wants, and Laurent's the fun police. Emm, well, that one's a maybe.
(You want to make an argument against Lu, better place to start is her supports with a female Avatar who ain't her mom.)
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It's not a nice thing to do though. I'm not judging her, I am merely saying that on the scale of niceness, murdering a friend for something they have not yet done is a lot worse than putting frogs down people's backs. It's a shame we don't get to see the timeline where she does the deed and everything still goes to hell cos of alt-time Grima coming back through the portal she opened, and everyone dying cos they don't have the tactical brilliance of Mary Sue Robin.
Gregor kills people same as everyone else in the game, not especially going to hold that against him in a time period where one cannot, say, work an office job. You don't have to be fun to be nice, as Lucinda herself proves time and again. As the only character who can build supports with everyone in the game the Avatar is nicer than Lucina by default. Libra is nicer than her too, come to think of it.
And why on earth would I play a female avatar and not have her be Lucina's mother? I'm in it for the min-maxing, the supports are a perk :P
Lucina's not fun, but she's not the fun police. There's a difference. Lucina, she sees someone having a good time, she tries to keep things that way. Laurent starts bitching about how they're wasting precious time and/or money, like an asshole. Avatar's supports have a certain amount of trolling built in (Anna A rank, anyone?) Seems an awful metric to go by raw support count there. By that metric, Severa's nicer than
Okay, under pressure, maybe not the nicest, but she's still pretty high up there, and for someone who likes stabbing things in the guts as much as she does, that's notable. (Seriously, doesn't come up as much in the main game, but the DLC clarifies pretty nice why she and Kjelle are besties. They are both mental for fights.)
Plan with the Avatar dead still has a shot. They might have Morgan, who's near as good, and probably have Virion, who's better assuming you tolerate a huge bodycount on your side. They got Chrom still kicking, so he can get the exalted falchion, and they have Lu at peak asskicking level to try and pick up the slack if he fails. Bloodier, nastier business, and putting Grima down for keeps is out, but saving mankind is still very much on the table.
Heck. Lucina is like the only character in the game who doesn't kill Owain's buzz.
Time and resources are super precious though! Don't you know there's a war going on?! And Severa is nicer to and invested in more of the cast than Anna, Tiki and Say'ri, as well as the dumb spotpass paralogue characters, who for the most part should be disregarded as non-canon (imo).
Story spoiler
Know what would have been a better course of action? Saying to Chrom, Fred and the avatar "Yo, in my future you betrayed Chrom. Maybe let's plan for some contingencies?"
And more likely Chrom would have Lucina imprisoned cos he's a dumbass justice freak who's all about the power of friendship, if Morgan doesn't straight up kill her first. And do they have the exalted falchion? Lucina only confronts the avatar after the fire emblem is stolen, and he's the one who steals it back. I could be misremembering that though.
There's a war on, yes. But HE'S NOT THE ONE IN CHARGE OF THE BUDGET. And if he could stop being a micromanaging dickweed and let the actual strategists do their job, everyone would be much happier.
Well, Lucina knew her father well enough to be sure he'd turn her down. I mean, just a couple scenes before he refused to let the Avatar stay home for the whole bit. At the same time, he's not so bloody stupid as to lock up one of his best soldiers just for suggesting contingencies. He didn't lock her up for actual attempted murder.
So, she jumps straight to murder plan stabby because nobody else would be up to it, and she's taking the weight for the world. Also worth remembering is how nobody else had any idea Grima hitched a ride, and using anyone other than the present day avatar was pretty heavy in backup plan territory for team evil.
And Wyborn? Don't worry. There are spotpass and DLC characters that are even better rallybots than Morgan, allowing her to pursue her true calling in the field of violence.
To share my points more clearly:
-Lucina should have made known her knowledge of the fact that the avatar is the one who kills Chrom earlier than she did. Chrom himself would have dismissed it because he's a dumbass, but the avatar and Fred would have taken it more seriously. Once the avatar was aware that he was a liability he was able to exert enough control to pull his punches, after all.
-Had Lucina actually managed to murder the Avatar, I think Chrom would have felt the need to imprison her, either out of honour or to protect her from Morgan (though as we all know, that would have been an entirely futile endeavour). This would have removed one Falchion from the equation, and with the avatar dead they wouldn't have been able to steal the fire emblem back for the Exalted Falchion.
-I don't think alt-timeline Grima was much of a backup plan at all, as you straight up kill Validar in Chapter 6 and Grima is the one to bring him back to life.
Cynthia's also down to jam with Owain, from what I've seen.
Regarding supports in 6: they're there, at least..but they aren't exactly fantastic. Especially those with Roy's retainers.
Guy 1: "Serving Roy sure is hard work."
Guy 2: "Indeed it is. It is our duty though, so let's do our best and serve him even harder!"
Guy 3: "Let's!"
Guy 1 & Guy 2 reached A Support.
To be fair though, the mostly terrible fan translation is partly to blame as well. The original script probably wasn't stellar either, but they did nothing to improve it.
I wish more games acknowledged birthdays. I know Animal Crossing does it, along with the DS and Gamecube (via boot-up jingles). There's probably many more I'm forgetting.
Chapter 26 (E) in FE7- the units getting attacked can actually DEFEND themselfs, so you don't have to sweat them dying while you get there.
Oh, you did *not* just complement what is possibly the worst chapter in the entire series!
Defending the main target there isn't bad on Eliwood mode, sure, but I had a certain overzealous someone needed for a certain sidequest die before I could even get anywhere near the first 3 times I tried the map. On Eliwood Normal mode.
Jaffar is able to handle himself
No. Nononononononono. No he isn't. Maybe he would be if he was a little more prone to healing himself instead of charging into a mass of enemies and dying.
It's even worse on Hector mode where there's guys with frigging Swordslayers.
Tiki's paralogue was a bad concept, but Battle Before Dawn is a broken, entirely luck-based one.
*deep breaths* Sorry. I just hate that chapter so freaking much. Having to take 3 turns before starting over again and again due to something out of my control just... wore me down. I can only remember one playthrough where I didn't have to restart that chapter at least once (if not three times) because Jaffar died before I even arrived. Unlike Tiki's paralogue, you can't even save Jaffar with the Rescue staff because you don't get it until a chest in that very chapter.
Battle Before Dawn is a nightmare. The only strategy I have is to send my Paladins and FalcoKnights down there as quickly as possible without stopping to take out enemies (unless they happen to be at the end of the movement range) and hope they don't die on the way down. It's a mess.
Time and resources are super precious though! Don't you know there's a war going on?! And Severa is nicer to and invested in more of the cast than Anna, Tiki and Say'ri, as well as the dumb spotpass paralogue characters, who for the most part should be disregarded as non-canon (imo).
Story spoiler
Know what would have been a better course of action? Saying to Chrom, Fred and the avatar "Yo, in my future you betrayed Chrom. Maybe let's plan for some contingencies?"
And more likely Chrom would have Lucina imprisoned cos he's a dumbass justice freak who's all about the power of friendship, if Morgan doesn't straight up kill her first. And do they have the exalted falchion? Lucina only confronts the avatar after the fire emblem is stolen, and he's the one who steals it back. I could be misremembering that though.
There's a war on, yes. But HE'S NOT THE ONE IN CHARGE OF THE BUDGET. And if he could stop being a micromanaging dickweed and let the actual strategists do their job, everyone would be much happier.
Well, Lucina knew her father well enough to be sure he'd turn her down. I mean, just a couple scenes before he refused to let the Avatar stay home for the whole bit. At the same time, he's not so bloody stupid as to lock up one of his best soldiers just for suggesting contingencies. He didn't lock her up for actual attempted murder.
So, she jumps straight to murder plan stabby because nobody else would be up to it, and she's taking the weight for the world. Also worth remembering is how nobody else had any idea Grima hitched a ride, and using anyone other than the present day avatar was pretty heavy in backup plan territory for team evil.
And Wyborn? Don't worry. There are spotpass and DLC characters that are even better rallybots than Morgan, allowing her to pursue her true calling in the field of violence.
To share my points more clearly:
-Lucina should have made known her knowledge of the fact that the avatar is the one who kills Chrom earlier than she did. Chrom himself would have dismissed it because he's a dumbass, but the avatar and Fred would have taken it more seriously. Once the avatar was aware that he was a liability he was able to exert enough control to pull his punches, after all.
-Had Lucina actually managed to murder the Avatar, I think Chrom would have felt the need to imprison her, either out of honour or to protect her from Morgan (though as we all know, that would have been an entirely futile endeavour). This would have removed one Falchion from the equation, and with the avatar dead they wouldn't have been able to steal the fire emblem back for the Exalted Falchion.
-I don't think alt-timeline Grima was much of a backup plan at all, as you straight up kill Validar in Chapter 6 and Grima is the one to bring him back to life.
Cynthia's also down to jam with Owain, from what I've seen.
that's not a good thing since owain is annoying and so is their support. cynthia does the whole shtick so much better, posing on top of nah? yeah I can get behind that.
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Chapter 26 (E) in FE7- the units getting attacked can actually DEFEND themselfs, so you don't have to sweat them dying while you get there.
Oh, you did *not* just complement what is possibly the worst chapter in the entire series!
Defending the main target there isn't bad on Eliwood mode, sure, but I had a certain overzealous someone needed for a certain sidequest die before I could even get anywhere near the first 3 times I tried the map. On Eliwood Normal mode.
Jaffar is able to handle himself
No. Nononononononono. No he isn't. Maybe he would be if he was a little more prone to healing himself instead of charging into a mass of enemies and dying.
It's even worse on Hector mode where there's guys with frigging Swordslayers.
Tiki's paralogue was a bad concept, but Battle Before Dawn is a broken, entirely luck-based one.
*deep breaths* Sorry. I just hate that chapter so freaking much. Having to take 3 turns before starting over again and again due to something out of my control just... wore me down. I can only remember one playthrough where I didn't have to restart that chapter at least once (if not three times) because Jaffar died before I even arrived. Unlike Tiki's paralogue, you can't even save Jaffar with the Rescue staff because you don't get it until a chest in that very chapter.
Yeah, Jaffar is rash, but focussing instead on his capabilities, he can easily handle himself provided he actually heals (because I think Swordslayers only existed in FE8, but I know Swordreavers exist in FE7)
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I haven't used the simplified prediction much, but I remember not liking it. Does it even show the crit and hit chances?
It definitely shows hit chance. I can't remember if it shows crit chance.
In my game I reclassed Donnel at ~11 without knowing he got a second skill at 15. Took him to Mercenary 10 before reclassing back to Villager to get the second skill. He is now the most terrifying Villager on the planet.
However, I noticed his stat-ups at level are basically nil at this point. Is there a stat gain cap per class?
Yep. If a number in the stat list is green, that means that character has hit the stat cap and it won't go any higher (until you reclass or promote).
Different classes have different caps. I'm pretty sure the ones for Villager are quite low.
yep. Anything glowing green on his stat page is capped, and villager has pretty low caps.
Now here's my problem. I keep reading that Donnel is a killing machine at some point, but I haven't leveled him at all so he's pretty low level right now. What would be the most efficient way to level him up now that I'm at Chapter 12?
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Reap the whirlwind.
Otherwise, uh
Honestly the "cheat your ass off" DLC is really convenient
They've had that in previous games, but it was called "rescue".
Previous titles did not have the pair up mechanic nor the bonuses it grants, however.
So buy a Reeking Box to summon Risen, who will have bullion?
Yeah. Most of the time there'll be one or two (usually one, sometimes none as far as I can tell) who'll carry a Small Bullion around.
The strength of the Risen encounters depends on where on the map you face them.
Pretty much. Rescue but that has the benefits of pair up
Cool, thanks!
The Rescue staff? :P
The offensive stats and speed of enemies is way jacked up in Lunatic, yeah. Pegasus knights in particular should just be reclassed straight away, cos with all the arrows and wind magic flying around it's more hassle than it's worth. I kind of regret taking advantage of sorcerers and Nosferatu in my game though, I'm going to try and avoid that if at all feasible for Luna+.
I was having some trouble on Lost Bloodlines 2 on Hard so I gave myself Rally Spectrum and Rally Strength exclusively and holy Hell that makes a difference
I've desired the shove command here and there from Radiant Dawn. Even though it's probably less than half as useful than Rescue.
Well, I played a bit during my lunch break at work and got Donnel up from level 2 to level 8 using Reeking Boxes. Thanks for the tip, will keep leveling him tonight
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When I first got Donny, the best way I found was to do the math and get him last hits. Especially do this on boss/leader units (last hitting those tend to give him upwards of 100xp).
There's a war on, yes. But HE'S NOT THE ONE IN CHARGE OF THE BUDGET. And if he could stop being a micromanaging dickweed and let the actual strategists do their job, everyone would be much happier.
So, she jumps straight to murder plan stabby because nobody else would be up to it, and she's taking the weight for the world. Also worth remembering is how nobody else had any idea Grima hitched a ride, and using anyone other than the present day avatar was pretty heavy in backup plan territory for team evil.
And Wyborn? Don't worry. There are spotpass and DLC characters that are even better rallybots than Morgan, allowing her to pursue her true calling in the field of violence.
Why I fear the ocean.
Without inheritance?
Yeah. Two of them in the DLC. One isn't out yet in the states, admitted, and both take some wrangling to get, but Palla and Katarina both come with Rally Strength. All you have to do is beat Roster Rescue with all the pages collected.
On an unrelated note, was looking up FE6 last night out of idle curiousity, and MAN. That game has some boring cast members. I mean, it's even more obvious in the light of Post-Awakening day, when we're used to the entire cast being well written, and most of them psycho, but Roy, Alan, Lance, Marcus, Bors, Wendy... the list goes on for some time of people who are duller than dishwater. And it's not even "Basically sane, cares about bringing everyone home alive" since that describes Lucina, and she's terrific.
Supports have come a long way. All I can say on the matter.
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8 did too, but for fewer characters. Characters like Seth.
Seth ruled.
I played FE 6 for completionist's sake, but it wouldn't exactly recommend it to anyone who started with Awakening and wants to play more FE games. It's just lacking too many features and feels slightly unpolished.
Guy 1: "Serving Roy sure is hard work."
Guy 2: "Indeed it is. It is our duty though, so let's do our best and serve him even harder!"
Guy 3: "Let's!"
Guy 1 & Guy 2 reached A Support.
Heck. Lucina is like the only character in the game who doesn't kill Owain's buzz.
-Lucina should have made known her knowledge of the fact that the avatar is the one who kills Chrom earlier than she did. Chrom himself would have dismissed it because he's a dumbass, but the avatar and Fred would have taken it more seriously. Once the avatar was aware that he was a liability he was able to exert enough control to pull his punches, after all.
-Had Lucina actually managed to murder the Avatar, I think Chrom would have felt the need to imprison her, either out of honour or to protect her from Morgan (though as we all know, that would have been an entirely futile endeavour). This would have removed one Falchion from the equation, and with the avatar dead they wouldn't have been able to steal the fire emblem back for the Exalted Falchion.
-I don't think alt-timeline Grima was much of a backup plan at all, as you straight up kill Validar in Chapter 6 and Grima is the one to bring him back to life.
Cynthia's also down to jam with Owain, from what I've seen.
it's probably one of the better arguments in male Morgan's favor.
To be fair though, the mostly terrible fan translation is partly to blame as well. The original script probably wasn't stellar either, but they did nothing to improve it.
I wish more games acknowledged birthdays. I know Animal Crossing does it, along with the DS and Gamecube (via boot-up jingles). There's probably many more I'm forgetting.
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It's even worse on Hector mode where there's guys with frigging Swordslayers.
Tiki's paralogue was a bad concept, but Battle Before Dawn is a broken, entirely luck-based one.
*deep breaths* Sorry. I just hate that chapter so freaking much. Having to take 3 turns before starting over again and again due to something out of my control just... wore me down. I can only remember one playthrough where I didn't have to restart that chapter at least once (if not three times) because Jaffar died before I even arrived. Unlike Tiki's paralogue, you can't even save Jaffar with the Rescue staff because you don't get it until a chest in that very chapter.
that's not a good thing since owain is annoying and so is their support. cynthia does the whole shtick so much better, posing on top of nah? yeah I can get behind that.
Yeah, Jaffar is rash, but focussing instead on his capabilities, he can easily handle himself provided he actually heals (because I think Swordslayers only existed in FE8, but I know Swordreavers exist in FE7)