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Dog has suddenly become very aggressive

Dog_OwnerDog_Owner Registered User regular
This is an alt account because I am a little sensitive about the issue and a lot of people know me by my main handle.

My dog who is a little over a year old mutt (The people said he was a lab/husky mix but he looks like he has some pitbull and other things in him) has suddenly become very aggressive. He was fine as a puppy and has been fine up until a couple months ago. It mostly triggers with my girlfriend and occurs around my room, his crate, and the couch. It is to the point where he actually bit my girlfriend and almost broke the skin. We have tried different training things to calm his aggression such as feeding him after we have eaten and stuff. He is never aggressive outside of the house and it is almost always triggered by my girlfriend, but once it is triggered it can go towards me or others as well. It is to the point where I think he is dangerous and need to figure out what to do about it. I love the dog dearly but I no longer feel that he is a safe pet unless this gets rectified.

I am really just looking for any advice on how to fix this, or what to do.

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  • mightyjongyomightyjongyo Sour Crrm East Bay, CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    Have you been paying less attention to him as a result of spending more time with your girlfriend? sounds to me like he feels his territory is being moved in on. He probably sleeps in all of those places and feels like your g/f is taking over.

    I am in no ways a dog expert but maybe you can find a space for him that your girlfriend does not go near and have him sleep there? More experienced dog owners will have more useful things to add, but that is my opinion.

  • KarrmerKarrmer Registered User regular
    You need some pretty major obedience training, probably 1 on 1 stuff, because this kind of thing is *very* hard to fix on your own. It'd be almost impossible for anyone here to provide you with any real desirable solution, even if one of us were a professional. It just can't be explained without dealing with this animal and your specific home situation in person.

    That said, if it isn't resolved soon it will likely only get worse - and in my personal opinion, going the "I'm the alpha, I'm going to hit you or pin you on the ground to show dominance" route will likely only enhance the aggression.

  • ShogunShogun Hair long; money long; me and broke wizards we don't get along Registered User regular
    Do you let the dog up on the couch?

  • mtsmts Dr. Robot King Registered User regular
    have you brought him to the vet?sudden changes inbehavior like that are often indicitive of illness.

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  • supabeastsupabeast Registered User regular
    Hire a dog trainer to work on this ASAP. Before the dog bites someone.

  • ceresceres When the last moon is cast over the last star of morning And the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    I was going to say "take him to the vet". The problem is that no matter how good a pet he has the potential to be, if he bites someone, especially a stranger, he's done. It may be behavioral, but if there's a health problem all the training in the world might not help. Have there been any other changes, like sleeping habits or how much he's eating? Does it seemed to be triggered by a particular action? That's info you'll want to have handy at the vet.

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  • ElinElin Registered User regular
    Is he neutered?

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  • Dog_OwnerDog_Owner Registered User regular
    Thanks for all the advice everyone and here's a little more information based on what you have said.

    I have not been paying less attention to him for my girlfriend, I've pretty much had a girlfriend since I got the dog and it has never been an issue up until recently. The couch and my bed are the two pieces of furniture that he is allowed to sit on. The aggression get's triggered whenever my girlfriend sits on the couch, or occasionally my room mate or when someone opens the door to my room. He is also neutered and is up to date on shots, he was neutered almost 7 or 8 months ago.

    I plan on calling my vet tomorrow morning to speak with him. Sadly 1 on 1 or professional training is not really an option, I pretty much live pay check to pay check and it would take too long to save up for one on one training with how he is currently acting.

  • ElinElin Registered User regular
    Dog_Owner wrote: »
    Thanks for all the advice everyone and here's a little more information based on what you have said.

    I have not been paying less attention to him for my girlfriend, I've pretty much had a girlfriend since I got the dog and it has never been an issue up until recently. The couch and my bed are the two pieces of furniture that he is allowed to sit on. The aggression get's triggered whenever my girlfriend sits on the couch, or occasionally my room mate or when someone opens the door to my room. He is also neutered and is up to date on shots, he was neutered almost 7 or 8 months ago.

    I plan on calling my vet tomorrow morning to speak with him. Sadly 1 on 1 or professional training is not really an option, I pretty much live pay check to pay check and it would take too long to save up for one on one training with how he is currently acting.

    Is your girlfriend very permissive with your dog? In my (not professionally trained) opinion it sounds like your dog is resource guarding and sees your girlfriend as lower on the totem pole than he is. I had this issue with my beagle when he first came home from the pound, but he's A)15 pounds and B) the shit he was guarding was small enough to take away (food and toys) and C) he was 2 and had been neutered less than 30 days previous (testosterone is a hell of a drug).. He eventually realized that the hierarchy in the household is my husband and I, then my pug (she a fucking beast), and then him.

    Have you done basic obedience training with him (sit stay down focus etc)? Has your girlfriend done the training with him as well? Would you be willing to assist your girlfriend in doing that training, perhaps in an area where he isn't with any of his trigger spots? I don't know how good a suggestion that is as I don't want to have her in a dangerous position.

    Do take him to the vet. Maybe you could consult with a trainer in your area. I know that basic group training around here is 100$ for 6 sessions, maybe you could work out some sort of payment plan?

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  • Dog_OwnerDog_Owner Registered User regular
    Elin wrote: »
    Dog_Owner wrote: »
    Thanks for all the advice everyone and here's a little more information based on what you have said.

    I have not been paying less attention to him for my girlfriend, I've pretty much had a girlfriend since I got the dog and it has never been an issue up until recently. The couch and my bed are the two pieces of furniture that he is allowed to sit on. The aggression get's triggered whenever my girlfriend sits on the couch, or occasionally my room mate or when someone opens the door to my room. He is also neutered and is up to date on shots, he was neutered almost 7 or 8 months ago.

    I plan on calling my vet tomorrow morning to speak with him. Sadly 1 on 1 or professional training is not really an option, I pretty much live pay check to pay check and it would take too long to save up for one on one training with how he is currently acting.

    Is your girlfriend very permissive with your dog? In my (not professionally trained) opinion it sounds like your dog is resource guarding and sees your girlfriend as lower on the totem pole than he is. I had this issue with my beagle when he first came home from the pound, but he's A)15 pounds and B) the shit he was guarding was small enough to take away (food and toys) and C) he was 2 and had been neutered less than 30 days previous (testosterone is a hell of a drug).. He eventually realized that the hierarchy in the household is my husband and I, then my pug (she a fucking beast), and then him.

    Have you done basic obedience training with him (sit stay down focus etc)? Has your girlfriend done the training with him as well? Would you be willing to assist your girlfriend in doing that training, perhaps in an area where he isn't with any of his trigger spots? I don't know how good a suggestion that is as I don't want to have her in a dangerous position.

    Do take him to the vet. Maybe you could consult with a trainer in your area. I know that basic group training around here is 100$ for 6 sessions, maybe you could work out some sort of payment plan?

    My girlfriend is far less permissive with him than I am. He does have basic training down sit, stay, come, and most of it was taught to him by her. We came home tonight and moved his crate into the main room so he has less reason to be possessive of my room, we are also trying to enforce some strict rules on him, he's no longer allowed on the couch and when I am not home he is going to be in the crate.

    So far tonight he has been fine and we are working on establishing his pecking order in the group. I have her feeding him now and he can't eat till she says for him to come to the food bowl. We looked at obedience training the other day and I think it was around 200$ for a six week class that interferes with my work schedule, she and I both work evenings when most of the classes are held. Like I said earlier I am going to give my vet a call in the morning and see what his advice is and if he recommends it I will certainly take the dog in to get checked out.

  • Dog_OwnerDog_Owner Registered User regular
    Elin wrote: »
    Dog_Owner wrote: »
    Thanks for all the advice everyone and here's a little more information based on what you have said.

    I have not been paying less attention to him for my girlfriend, I've pretty much had a girlfriend since I got the dog and it has never been an issue up until recently. The couch and my bed are the two pieces of furniture that he is allowed to sit on. The aggression get's triggered whenever my girlfriend sits on the couch, or occasionally my room mate or when someone opens the door to my room. He is also neutered and is up to date on shots, he was neutered almost 7 or 8 months ago.

    I plan on calling my vet tomorrow morning to speak with him. Sadly 1 on 1 or professional training is not really an option, I pretty much live pay check to pay check and it would take too long to save up for one on one training with how he is currently acting.

    Is your girlfriend very permissive with your dog? In my (not professionally trained) opinion it sounds like your dog is resource guarding and sees your girlfriend as lower on the totem pole than he is. I had this issue with my beagle when he first came home from the pound, but he's A)15 pounds and B) the shit he was guarding was small enough to take away (food and toys) and C) he was 2 and had been neutered less than 30 days previous (testosterone is a hell of a drug).. He eventually realized that the hierarchy in the household is my husband and I, then my pug (she a fucking beast), and then him.

    Have you done basic obedience training with him (sit stay down focus etc)? Has your girlfriend done the training with him as well? Would you be willing to assist your girlfriend in doing that training, perhaps in an area where he isn't with any of his trigger spots? I don't know how good a suggestion that is as I don't want to have her in a dangerous position.

    Do take him to the vet. Maybe you could consult with a trainer in your area. I know that basic group training around here is 100$ for 6 sessions, maybe you could work out some sort of payment plan?

    My girlfriend is far less permissive with him than I am. He does have basic training down sit, stay, come, and most of it was taught to him by her. We came home tonight and moved his crate into the main room so he has less reason to be possessive of my room, we are also trying to enforce some strict rules on him, he's no longer allowed on the couch and when I am not home he is going to be in the crate.

    So far tonight he has been fine and we are working on establishing his pecking order in the group. I have her feeding him now and he can't eat till she says for him to come to the food bowl. We looked at obedience training the other day and I think it was around 200$ for a six week class that interferes with my work schedule, she and I both work evenings when most of the classes are held. Like I said earlier I am going to give my vet a call in the morning and see what his advice is and if he recommends it I will certainly take the dog in to get checked out.

  • ElinElin Registered User regular
    Dog_Owner wrote: »
    Elin wrote: »
    Dog_Owner wrote: »
    Thanks for all the advice everyone and here's a little more information based on what you have said.

    I have not been paying less attention to him for my girlfriend, I've pretty much had a girlfriend since I got the dog and it has never been an issue up until recently. The couch and my bed are the two pieces of furniture that he is allowed to sit on. The aggression get's triggered whenever my girlfriend sits on the couch, or occasionally my room mate or when someone opens the door to my room. He is also neutered and is up to date on shots, he was neutered almost 7 or 8 months ago.

    I plan on calling my vet tomorrow morning to speak with him. Sadly 1 on 1 or professional training is not really an option, I pretty much live pay check to pay check and it would take too long to save up for one on one training with how he is currently acting.

    Is your girlfriend very permissive with your dog? In my (not professionally trained) opinion it sounds like your dog is resource guarding and sees your girlfriend as lower on the totem pole than he is. I had this issue with my beagle when he first came home from the pound, but he's A)15 pounds and B) the shit he was guarding was small enough to take away (food and toys) and C) he was 2 and had been neutered less than 30 days previous (testosterone is a hell of a drug).. He eventually realized that the hierarchy in the household is my husband and I, then my pug (she a fucking beast), and then him.

    Have you done basic obedience training with him (sit stay down focus etc)? Has your girlfriend done the training with him as well? Would you be willing to assist your girlfriend in doing that training, perhaps in an area where he isn't with any of his trigger spots? I don't know how good a suggestion that is as I don't want to have her in a dangerous position.

    Do take him to the vet. Maybe you could consult with a trainer in your area. I know that basic group training around here is 100$ for 6 sessions, maybe you could work out some sort of payment plan?

    My girlfriend is far less permissive with him than I am. He does have basic training down sit, stay, come, and most of it was taught to him by her. We came home tonight and moved his crate into the main room so he has less reason to be possessive of my room, we are also trying to enforce some strict rules on him, he's no longer allowed on the couch and when I am not home he is going to be in the crate.

    So far tonight he has been fine and we are working on establishing his pecking order in the group. I have her feeding him now and he can't eat till she says for him to come to the food bowl. We looked at obedience training the other day and I think it was around 200$ for a six week class that interferes with my work schedule, she and I both work evenings when most of the classes are held. Like I said earlier I am going to give my vet a call in the morning and see what his advice is and if he recommends it I will certainly take the dog in to get checked out.

    Don't feel bad about the situation BTW. It honestly sounds like you've been doing everything right, shit happens sometimes. This could be an illness or teenage rebellion. It sounds like it's not an issue of you not training or caring for him. I hope you figure it out.

    My only other suggestion is until you get this figured out, if you walk him, muzzle him. He takes a snap at some kid running up to him because their parents aren't watching and it's game over for your buddy. Safety first.

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  • KarrmerKarrmer Registered User regular
    Dog_Owner wrote: »
    Elin wrote: »
    Dog_Owner wrote: »
    Thanks for all the advice everyone and here's a little more information based on what you have said.

    I have not been paying less attention to him for my girlfriend, I've pretty much had a girlfriend since I got the dog and it has never been an issue up until recently. The couch and my bed are the two pieces of furniture that he is allowed to sit on. The aggression get's triggered whenever my girlfriend sits on the couch, or occasionally my room mate or when someone opens the door to my room. He is also neutered and is up to date on shots, he was neutered almost 7 or 8 months ago.

    I plan on calling my vet tomorrow morning to speak with him. Sadly 1 on 1 or professional training is not really an option, I pretty much live pay check to pay check and it would take too long to save up for one on one training with how he is currently acting.

    Is your girlfriend very permissive with your dog? In my (not professionally trained) opinion it sounds like your dog is resource guarding and sees your girlfriend as lower on the totem pole than he is. I had this issue with my beagle when he first came home from the pound, but he's A)15 pounds and B) the shit he was guarding was small enough to take away (food and toys) and C) he was 2 and had been neutered less than 30 days previous (testosterone is a hell of a drug).. He eventually realized that the hierarchy in the household is my husband and I, then my pug (she a fucking beast), and then him.

    Have you done basic obedience training with him (sit stay down focus etc)? Has your girlfriend done the training with him as well? Would you be willing to assist your girlfriend in doing that training, perhaps in an area where he isn't with any of his trigger spots? I don't know how good a suggestion that is as I don't want to have her in a dangerous position.

    Do take him to the vet. Maybe you could consult with a trainer in your area. I know that basic group training around here is 100$ for 6 sessions, maybe you could work out some sort of payment plan?

    My girlfriend is far less permissive with him than I am. He does have basic training down sit, stay, come, and most of it was taught to him by her. We came home tonight and moved his crate into the main room so he has less reason to be possessive of my room, we are also trying to enforce some strict rules on him, he's no longer allowed on the couch and when I am not home he is going to be in the crate.

    So far tonight he has been fine and we are working on establishing his pecking order in the group. I have her feeding him now and he can't eat till she says for him to come to the food bowl. We looked at obedience training the other day and I think it was around 200$ for a six week class that interferes with my work schedule, she and I both work evenings when most of the classes are held. Like I said earlier I am going to give my vet a call in the morning and see what his advice is and if he recommends it I will certainly take the dog in to get checked out.

    Having her feed him is good. Having her take his food away is good, assuming he doesn't bite the shit out of her. If he growls just give him a quick correction and take the food away, I've had quite a few dogs try the resource domination stuff and I've never had one actually bite, but I wouldn't want to get your girl hurt.

    My old husky did this kind of thing and I just taught it that it had to do what I wanted or it didn't get delicious food or treats. Positive reinforcement is IMO the best route, but obviously you have to take away things sometimes to get certain points across (remove yourself from playful fun if a puppy is biting too much, remove food/treats if they think they can guard them from you, etc). Have her train with him and give him lots of love and praise when he does things right (Everything from sit to lay down to come or whatever) and give him treats all the time. He'll love the shit out of her.

    Getting him to completely be friendly to everyone ever is a much more complex thing, but I've always felt it's easiest to have new people that meet dogs like this to just give the dog treats via asking them to do simple commands you've trained and it almost instantly makes the person awesome in the dogs eyes.

  • ihmmyihmmy Registered User regular
    good job on banning him from the couch right away. It sounds very much (to my unprofessional self anyway) that he's become very territorial of his couch. HIS couch, in his mind. My 7lb dog gets that way sometimes too, mostly vs the cat though. That and subtle reiterations of the hierarchy of your pack (you/gf, him) will help a lot. My other dog can be a bit food aggressive (again, not with people, but with other animals) so I will sometimes just go stand over her food bowl when she's been eating and she has to back off. It's about having the animal back off, not taking something away / out of their mouth kind of behaviour that helps reinforce some of this stuff.

  • DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    ihmmy wrote: »
    good job on banning him from the couch right away. It sounds very much (to my unprofessional self anyway) that he's become very territorial of his couch. HIS couch, in his mind. My 7lb dog gets that way sometimes too, mostly vs the cat though. That and subtle reiterations of the hierarchy of your pack (you/gf, him) will help a lot. My other dog can be a bit food aggressive (again, not with people, but with other animals) so I will sometimes just go stand over her food bowl when she's been eating and she has to back off. It's about having the animal back off, not taking something away / out of their mouth kind of behaviour that helps reinforce some of this stuff.

    The trick with taking something away from your dog is that you have to build trust for the animal that it's going to come out better, in the long run, if it doesn't fight you on things. This isn't dominance. You aren't teaching the animal, "I'm bigger than you and can take away your food when I want, because I'm higher in the pack." It's a long series of training that teaches the dog, "When my owner takes things away, they give them back eventually and sometimes I get treats and rewards, so I'm totally ok whenever owner takes my stuff. I LIKE it!" You do this consistently and reward as needed and the dog doesn't end up minding the times when something is taken away and NOT given back, because at a basic level he trusts that he's going to come out happier if he lets you take what you want. This helps when the dog decides to grab expensive shoes, for instance, but you start building this kind of trust with the dog's toys and food.

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  • mtsmts Dr. Robot King Registered User regular
    The other option is to hand feed for a bit. Basically just make him sit and feed him from his bowl. That works well for dominance setting

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  • Dr. FrenchensteinDr. Frenchenstein Registered User regular
    you can go to petsmart and do a 6 week class for like $150-200 and i think their times are pretty flexible on the weekends. that's not the best training out there by any means, but i think any kind of structured setting where your GF is clearly calling the shots would be a good thing for the pooch.

  • mtsmts Dr. Robot King Registered User regular
    Honestly petsmart training is fine for new dog owners but once you start bringing in aggression you need a pro or a behaviorist

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  • amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
    How are you disciplining the dog? Is he getting aggressive specifically when your girlfriend or friends invade what he considers his personal space or is he doing it when they try to move him?

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  • Dog_OwnerDog_Owner Registered User regular
    edited March 2013
    So this post will serve to respond to some questions as well as an update on the situation for those who are interested.

    I thought he might have been improving a little only having one incident recently where he managed to get into my room and charge/snap at my girlfriend and myself until this morning. Today he was laying on ground just relaxing and my girlfriend went to pet him and he went off again breaking one of her bracelets and barely missing her hand. I immediately told him to go into his crate, I didn't do this as punishment but purely out of safety concerns for the dog and her, which he responded to but was still angry. Later when I went to tell him to go to bed, which is the command for going into the crate, he freaked out at me when I went to lock the doors.

    He has given up on getting on the couch and into my room it seems which has been helpful I think but he is still being aggressive seemingly at random. That may just be because this is new and I don't expect him to be perfect or even really improved much by now.

    I spoke with a vet earlier today who has known my family and I for years and he gave me some suggestions. He said to continue doing what we are doing and told me if he gets aggressive throw a rolled up news paper or an object. Not at the dog, and not to hit the dog, but just throwing it will apparently distract his attention and maybe diffuse the situation. He suggested a behaviorist which is sadly way out of my price range. Especially given that he said I would need to do about 6 weeks worth, 6-12 sessions depending on what they would recommend, at minimum 100$ a session. He also told me that if the dog hasn't improved dramatically in 6-8 weeks or if he continues to get worse I need to face the fact of putting him to sleep. He said medicine would be a temporary crutch for it and a lot of times when this emerges in Dog's it just continues to get worse and worse so that the animal can be a ticking time bomb and it leads to only a matter of time before someone gets maimed or badly injured.

    So as of now we are going to continue what is going on and try our hardest to improve his aggression, but if he gets worse than I will take steps to have him put down. The same goes if he does not improve in the 6-8 week period I was told. I am sorry if this sounds a bit rambling I am fairly devastated at the idea of having to put him down. But I do trust this vets opinion more than anyone I know in regards to animals and I do believe he has given me the best advice that is available.

    In response to how I am disciplining him it is mostly with telling him a loud firm "No!" There has not been any physical disciplining and I am following my vets advice and rewarding positive behavior and trying to give him positive associations with not being on the couch, people approaching his crate, etc. He gets aggressive it really feels at random. Someone can be on the other side of his crate and just touching it and he will be inside looking like Kujo. He has bitten my girlfriend after she pets him which he could have been allowing perfectly happy with for five minutes before hand.

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  • ceresceres When the last moon is cast over the last star of morning And the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    I would tend to say that maybe a rescue organization could direct you to a lower-cost behavioral specialist that could help for less.. but this really doesn't sound good. :/ I still think you should have him screened for medical conditions that might be causing the aggression before making any decisions, especially since you said this is recent.

    And it seems like all is dying, and would leave the world to mourn
  • jdarksunjdarksun Struggler CORegistered User regular
    Have you taken him for an examination yet? That sort of radical personality change sounds like a severe medical issue.

    This isn't a long term solution, but you might consider carrying a water bottle with you. I use water to break up dogs that fight during their introduction period.

  • IrukaIruka Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    My local spca had a behavior specialist, and I think a class was not nearly as expensive. I would look into that, if nothing else, they probably deal heavily with aggressive dogs and how to try and correct them. People in that end of spectrum are usually friendly and helpful.

    I hope you find a happy solution, that is a hard situation.

  • Bliss 101Bliss 101 Registered User regular
    This definitely sounds like he's physically ill. I'd put my money on a tooth problem, as those are both very common and extremely painful, but it could be anything. Get him to a vet.

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  • KalgarethKalgareth Registered User regular
    What is your physical activity regiment with your dog?

    Sounds like he is a bigger breed and may not have a normal outlet for pent up energy and is channeling that energy into his aggression.

  • KarrmerKarrmer Registered User regular
    Yeah I've heard of dogs getting defensive of things but this dog seems way out of control, I do agree that it might be medical. Tooth pain is possible, as is a potential virus (maybe rabies? I really doubt it but who knows).

  • ceresceres When the last moon is cast over the last star of morning And the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    Apparently thyroid issues can make dogs aggressive. You learn something new every day.

    And it seems like all is dying, and would leave the world to mourn
  • Dr. FrenchensteinDr. Frenchenstein Registered User regular
    yeah thyroid issues can make an animal batshit... also fat as hell potentially. (my parents cat had thyroid issues and was enormous, i couldn't tell if it made her mean or not because she was a cat) This sounds bad, i would ask around with rescue organizations and the local SPCA. A rescue might be willing to try and rehabilitate the pooch. Definitely take him to the vet for some bloodwork or something. Please tell me you can afford a vet visit...

  • mtsmts Dr. Robot King Registered User regular
    thyroid issues manifest as a hairless tail. looks like a rat tail. our dog is hypothyroid.

    if he was a setter mix, i would thnk about setter rage, but honestly he has already bitten twice at this point.

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  • jdarksunjdarksun Struggler CORegistered User regular
    Just what is "...but honestly he has already bitten twice at this point." supposed to mean, exactly?

  • mtsmts Dr. Robot King Registered User regular
    edited March 2013
    i am saying, he hasnt even brought him into the vet. the dog is becoming more aggressive and breaking into his room to go after him/his girlfriend. obviously there is a behavior issue here that needs to be addressed.

    the dog needs to be examined by the vet

    the dog likely needs to see a behaviorist

    if he can't afford that, then he is going to need to make a rough decision. But the fact is, a people aggressive dog is a huge fucking liability especially one with an undetermined trigger. this is only going to get worse. I am all for giving every dog a chance, but aggressive dogs is where I draw the line.

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  • ElinElin Registered User regular
    edited March 2013
    Are you in an area with ticks? I have read that lyme disease can cause aggression in some dogs, one such case was a lab mix. I haven't found anything peer reviewed but it's an easy test especially if you're in the right area for it.

    http://bakerinstitute.vet.cornell.edu/animalhealth/page.php?id=1101

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  • jdarksunjdarksun Struggler CORegistered User regular
    mts wrote: »
    I am all for giving every dog a chance, but aggressive dogs is where I draw the line.
    Dog aggression is almost never a problem with the dog. It's almost always a medical issue or a discipline issue. Both of which need to be resolved by the owner.

  • DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    jdarksun wrote: »
    mts wrote: »
    I am all for giving every dog a chance, but aggressive dogs is where I draw the line.
    Dog aggression is almost never a problem with the dog. It's almost always a medical issue or a discipline issue. Both of which need to be resolved by the owner.

    But failing to get a dog the training it needs before aggressive behavior becomes more ingrained can result in what you'd call an "aggressive dog."

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  • King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    My Beagle was like this early on. Hell of a temper and growled when you tried to take her food away. Usually it was with my brothers who were younger and frankly borderline abusive to her( very aggressive playing and I wasn't home all the time to stop it). They got older and better and the distraction techniques people have mentioned help curb the behavior entirely.

    You do need to adjust the bad behavior but if he's acting defensively it won't stop just with obedience training. It's probably not even your girlfriend that's the cause. Anyone he interacts with commonly could be doing something to trigger this.

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  • supabeastsupabeast Registered User regular
    Kalgareth wrote: »
    What is your physical activity regiment with your dog?

    Sounds like he is a bigger breed and may not have a normal outlet for pent up energy and is channeling that energy into his aggression.

    +1. Maybe you and your girlfriend should each get a pair of running shoes and try wearing the dog out with a long run, once in the morning and once at night.

  • SentrySentry Registered User regular
    My sister adopted a corgi mix that was aggressive with everyone but her. He would lunge, he would try and bite, and in several instances he actually did bite someone. A waiter. It was not good.
    She brought in a specialist to work with the dog for a few hours. It was expensive, but it also came with a training collar. The collar provided stimulation to the dog (although I don't think it was a shock perse) that would distract him whenever he did something bad or aggressive. I can't believe how amazingly this thing worked. You wouldn't even know it was the same dog. He's docile, obedient, and an absolutely joy to be around. I love her dog more then my own dogs now. I've never been a fan of "shock" collars, but seeing how effective theirs was (and again, I don't know if it was a shock collar, that isn't how they described it but that could just be a nomenclature thing) I would definitely recommend it, especially if the alternative is putting the dog down.

    Also, take your dog to the vet.

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  • Dog_OwnerDog_Owner Registered User regular
    edited March 2013
    supabeast wrote: »
    Kalgareth wrote: »
    What is your physical activity regiment with your dog?

    Sounds like he is a bigger breed and may not have a normal outlet for pent up energy and is channeling that energy into his aggression.

    +1. Maybe you and your girlfriend should each get a pair of running shoes and try wearing the dog out with a long run, once in the morning and once at night.

    Activity levels with the dog have been up and down throughout the whole thing. It started when we were being very active during early fall and the warmer part of winter with long hikes and Big long walks everyday. He was starting to be aggressive at this point. With winter setting in and school picking back up the level of activity has lowered a bit I tried to get him on a big walk everyday. Now it's getting to the point where I am nervous to take him on a long walk due to living in a pretty populated area with kids that will run right up to him and pet him. Before they would do it and it was fine, now I am afraid he is going to try and tear into them.
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    mts wrote: »
    I am all for giving every dog a chance, but aggressive dogs is where I draw the line.
    Dog aggression is almost never a problem with the dog. It's almost always a medical issue or a discipline issue. Both of which need to be resolved by the owner.

    This kinda goes against what the vet I spoke with was saying. He did say that it may be fixable but would most likely require hiring a specialist, which is incredibly expensive and just not something I can afford to do.
    yeah thyroid issues can make an animal batshit... also fat as hell potentially. (my parents cat had thyroid issues and was enormous, i couldn't tell if it made her mean or not because she was a cat) This sounds bad, i would ask around with rescue organizations and the local SPCA. A rescue might be willing to try and rehabilitate the pooch. Definitely take him to the vet for some bloodwork or something. Please tell me you can afford a vet visit...

    I will be able to afford a vet visit once I get paid this week. My current plan is to keep up with the new discipline and rule changes and see if he improves. If he does not improve and it looks like he will need to be put down I will be taking him to a vet to get him checked out for any possible medical cause Before taking that option.

    Edit: I should add that the dog has never been abused or treated harshly in any way. I bought the dog when he was only maybe 6 weeks old and he has been with me from that point on and has lived a pretty cushy good life. He has also known my girlfriend since the day after I picked him up. We were still friends so she wasn't over as much at that point but he got along with her and really liked her. He used to love people until this all started now he can snap at pretty much anyone myself included.

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  • mtsmts Dr. Robot King Registered User regular
    edited March 2013
    Well 6 weeks is a bit early to separate from the mom, but i doubt that is the cause, especially since he was fine for a year.

    Did you get him from a breeder or from some dude with puppies
    I disagree that aggression is solely an owner thing. It's a genetic trait that some breeds are bred to have. The onus is not entirely on the owner.

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  • Dog_OwnerDog_Owner Registered User regular
    I have done more thinking on this issue and have searched around online and have decided that I have to put the dog down. Earlier today he got far more aggressive with me in his crate to the point that I was afraid of him. Last night he was growling at me and would have bitten me had I gotten close enough for him to be able to. Before this week he had rarely been aggressive towards me and now it is consistently happening. I cannot continue to live with the stress and risks that he is presenting. I currently live in an apartment complex and I cannot take the risk of him biting someone I don't know, and he has already broken the skin on multiple people I do know. If he were to bite someone it would ruin me financially, as well as make his last days terrible when the authorities quarantine and eventually kill him. I love the dog dearly so don't think this was a rushed decision but I do think it will probably be what I end up doing with him. I am going to try and make his last days as awesome as I can for him.

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