The Ceadeus fight makes me want to fall over and sleep. Sigh. Not looking forward t farming that shit.
Getting rid of the skills low rank Lagiacrus had in Tri definitely makes it more tedious until you get better weapons. Thankfully they did nerf his health, or, seems like they did at least.
Some of the youtube videos featuring solo G Rank kills use the slime lance, so I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say it's probably a really good weapon.
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Some of the youtube videos featuring solo G Rank kills use the slime lance, so I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say it's probably a really good weapon.
Lancer for lyfehere, man. Even my Dark Souls character was as close to a Monster Hunter Lancer as I could get in that game. There's just this beauty about the massive reach that you have, and the fact that you never let up on the pressure on monsters. Great Swords, Dual Swords, Longswords, you guys have to do silly things like evade and rolling and dodging, I give zero cares, if a monster attacks me, he's getting Lanced in the face as punishment for his gall, if he runs away, I chase him down and put on some serious hurting.
I generally gravitate between being a primarily Sword and Shield or Lance user. Can't quite put my finger on which one is my hands-down favorite. Hunting Horn is awesome and all, but it still is nowhere near the WMD that a Lance is.
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Some of the youtube videos featuring solo G Rank kills use the slime lance, so I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say it's probably a really good weapon.
Lancer for lyfehere, man. Even my Dark Souls character was as close to a Monster Hunter Lancer as I could get in that game. There's just this beauty about the massive reach that you have, and the fact that you never let up on the pressure on monsters. Great Swords, Dual Swords, Longswords, you guys have to do silly things like evade and rolling and dodging, I give zero cares, if a monster attacks me, he's getting Lanced in the face as punishment for his gall, if he runs away, I chase him down and put on some serious hurting.
I generally gravitate between being a primarily Sword and Shield or Lance user. Can't quite put my finger on which one is my hands-down favorite. Hunting Horn is awesome and all, but it still is nowhere near the WMD that a Lance is.
Stop tempting me to put aside my crazy gunner run and to embrace the lance like I was born to wield it.
Mostly just huntin' monsters.
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Some of the youtube videos featuring solo G Rank kills use the slime lance, so I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say it's probably a really good weapon.
Lancer for lyfehere, man. Even my Dark Souls character was as close to a Monster Hunter Lancer as I could get in that game. There's just this beauty about the massive reach that you have, and the fact that you never let up on the pressure on monsters. Great Swords, Dual Swords, Longswords, you guys have to do silly things like evade and rolling and dodging, I give zero cares, if a monster attacks me, he's getting Lanced in the face as punishment for his gall, if he runs away, I chase him down and put on some serious hurting.
I generally gravitate between being a primarily Sword and Shield or Lance user. Can't quite put my finger on which one is my hands-down favorite. Hunting Horn is awesome and all, but it still is nowhere near the WMD that a Lance is.
Stop tempting me to put aside my crazy gunner run and to embrace the lance like I was born to wield it.
Some jump out of the way of a charging Barroth, lancers charge directly at the foolish Barroth, and then punish him for his insolence.
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Some of the youtube videos featuring solo G Rank kills use the slime lance, so I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say it's probably a really good weapon.
Lancer for lyfehere, man. Even my Dark Souls character was as close to a Monster Hunter Lancer as I could get in that game. There's just this beauty about the massive reach that you have, and the fact that you never let up on the pressure on monsters. Great Swords, Dual Swords, Longswords, you guys have to do silly things like evade and rolling and dodging, I give zero cares, if a monster attacks me, he's getting Lanced in the face as punishment for his gall, if he runs away, I chase him down and put on some serious hurting.
I generally gravitate between being a primarily Sword and Shield or Lance user. Can't quite put my finger on which one is my hands-down favorite. Hunting Horn is awesome and all, but it still is nowhere near the WMD that a Lance is.
Stop tempting me to put aside my crazy gunner run and to embrace the lance like I was born to wield it.
Some jump out of the way of a charging Barroth, lancers charge directly at the foolish Barroth, and then punish him for his insolence.
You are evil.
Mostly just huntin' monsters.
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Some of the youtube videos featuring solo G Rank kills use the slime lance, so I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say it's probably a really good weapon.
Lancer for lyfehere, man. Even my Dark Souls character was as close to a Monster Hunter Lancer as I could get in that game. There's just this beauty about the massive reach that you have, and the fact that you never let up on the pressure on monsters. Great Swords, Dual Swords, Longswords, you guys have to do silly things like evade and rolling and dodging, I give zero cares, if a monster attacks me, he's getting Lanced in the face as punishment for his gall, if he runs away, I chase him down and put on some serious hurting.
I generally gravitate between being a primarily Sword and Shield or Lance user. Can't quite put my finger on which one is my hands-down favorite. Hunting Horn is awesome and all, but it still is nowhere near the WMD that a Lance is.
Stop tempting me to put aside my crazy gunner run and to embrace the lance like I was born to wield it.
Some jump out of the way of a charging Barroth, lancers charge directly at the foolish Barroth, and then punish him for his insolence.
Stop making me want to Lance.
You are pulling me away from the True Path of the Switch-Axe.
Wish I didn't have to work and could just Monster Hunter all day long.
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Some of the youtube videos featuring solo G Rank kills use the slime lance, so I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say it's probably a really good weapon.
Lancer for lyfehere, man. Even my Dark Souls character was as close to a Monster Hunter Lancer as I could get in that game. There's just this beauty about the massive reach that you have, and the fact that you never let up on the pressure on monsters. Great Swords, Dual Swords, Longswords, you guys have to do silly things like evade and rolling and dodging, I give zero cares, if a monster attacks me, he's getting Lanced in the face as punishment for his gall, if he runs away, I chase him down and put on some serious hurting.
I generally gravitate between being a primarily Sword and Shield or Lance user. Can't quite put my finger on which one is my hands-down favorite. Hunting Horn is awesome and all, but it still is nowhere near the WMD that a Lance is.
Stop tempting me to put aside my crazy gunner run and to embrace the lance like I was born to wield it.
Some jump out of the way of a charging Barroth, lancers charge directly at the foolish Barroth, and then punish him for his insolence.
You are evil.
I must admit, though, I am having a blast with Bows, whenever I bring them on a hunt. They are just so much fun it's silly. I just bought myself something along the lines of 300 Nitroshrooms last night, so I'll be good to go with Power Coatings for quite a while now. The Heavy Bowgun, if you can situate yourself well enough to do the Croush-Fire, has so much damage potential, that I don't think other weapons can truly match it.
Everything in this game is situational, however, there are some fights that bringing a Lance is just painful. Barioth is a good example. He's doable with a Lance, but bringing a Great Sword, or Sword and Shield, makes that fight go by so much faster.
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Some of the youtube videos featuring solo G Rank kills use the slime lance, so I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say it's probably a really good weapon.
Lancer for lyfehere, man. Even my Dark Souls character was as close to a Monster Hunter Lancer as I could get in that game. There's just this beauty about the massive reach that you have, and the fact that you never let up on the pressure on monsters. Great Swords, Dual Swords, Longswords, you guys have to do silly things like evade and rolling and dodging, I give zero cares, if a monster attacks me, he's getting Lanced in the face as punishment for his gall, if he runs away, I chase him down and put on some serious hurting.
I generally gravitate between being a primarily Sword and Shield or Lance user. Can't quite put my finger on which one is my hands-down favorite. Hunting Horn is awesome and all, but it still is nowhere near the WMD that a Lance is.
Stop tempting me to put aside my crazy gunner run and to embrace the lance like I was born to wield it.
Some jump out of the way of a charging Barroth, lancers charge directly at the foolish Barroth, and then punish him for his insolence.
You are evil.
I must admit, though, I am having a blast with Bows, whenever I bring them on a hunt. They are just so much fun it's silly. I just bought myself something along the lines of 300 Nitroshrooms last night, so I'll be good to go with Power Coatings for quite a while now. The Heavy Bowgun, if you can situate yourself well enough to do the Croush-Fire, has so much damage potential, that I don't think other weapons can truly match it.
Everything in this game is situational, however, there are some fights that bringing a Lance is just painful. Barioth is a good example. He's doable with a Lance, but bringing a Great Sword, or Sword and Shield, makes that fight go by so much faster.
Oh, I agree. I was only kidding. At some point I'll make a blademaster set and go back and build up some lances, gunlances and hunting horns. I am just focusing on gunning right now because I am finding it enjoyable and fun to play.
It's good to have some variation in there.
Mostly just huntin' monsters.
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Hunting Horn, no attacking or getting your hands dirty, let your minions do your fighting for you :P
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Best place I found was the secret cat den in area 4 of the D.Island/Moga Woods, that bug spot seems to give up a 1-3 carpenter bugs every time, which was convenient.
This.
Whenever I need the things I go here.
Just beat Rathian for the first time. My preferred weapon for new monsters is my trusty Gunlance. High explosive power (Wyvern's fire) and great defense option.
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Gunlance is quickly becoming the weapon that I go to in a pinch. Whenever I need to get some huge DPS on a heavily-armored opponent, that Gunlance does work!
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I think my go-to is switch axe, with its built in ESP.
Morda, when do you get on? You must be on the west coast or something? The few times I played with you it was like 10:30 eastern or later.
Aye, the times we've played together have been too few and too far between! I'm on...I believe Mountain Standard Time. It's hard here in Arizona, because half the year we're Mountain and half the year we're Pacific or something. I'm usually on around 19:00 MST, due to that being my kids' bedtime, although wife has been letting me cheat lately and get on earlier. Tonight I'll be on at 19:00 MST, I'll ignore Bioshock for now :P
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Can't trap or capture the big guys like Ceadeus. Also, online is kill only, no repels.
In other news, Dire Miralis is quite the adventure. We went in not knowing what to expect and pulled a victory by the skin of our teeth. Knowing what to expect now, I'm hoping it'll be easier when I have it do it myself.
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The Ceadeus fight makes me want to fall over and sleep. Sigh. Not looking forward t farming that shit.
It takes 10mins per fight if you're using the Balistas an Dragonator right and have decent weapons.
Online Golden form that is. slowest time when farming him was ~13mins am I'm only rank 6.
Break poonts are the two horns, the beard, the back, and the tail.
Can you trap and cap him? Never thought about that possibility.
Can you also just repel him like in the village quest?
General rule of thumb is that any "true dragon" cannot be capped. Rathalos and Rathian aren't true dragons, they're only wyverns. True dragons in Tri Ultiamte are Ceadeus, Alatreon, Jhen Mohran, and the Fatalis end-boss guy. Even Devil Jho, who uses the Dragon Element, is still a Brute Wyvern so he can be capped.
MHFU had a crapton of true dragons, Chameleos, Fatalis, Kushala Daora, Lao Shan Lung and I don't think any of those could be captured either.
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After having never touched a ranged weapon in Tri I have take to Light Bowgun like a lobster to the ocean.
Joined a random room with 2 other dudes who were chatting away over the ( surprisingly good quality ) gamepad mic. After a double HR Barroth run wherein I washed all the mud off both with my water shells I was told that I was an amazing bowgunner.
After having never touched a ranged weapon in Tri I have take to Light Bowgun like a lobster to the ocean.
Joined a random room with 2 other dudes who were chatting away over the ( surprisingly good quality ) gamepad mic. After a double HR Barroth run wherein I washed all the mud off both with my water shells I was told that I was an amazing bowgunner.
It felt really good.
You should feel good! Bowgunning is somewhat tricky because of all the incidentals that you have to keep track of. Having a good bowgunner in a group is really beneficial. Then there's me, firing Pellet Level 3 shots at the monster while hitting all the other hunters :P
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After having never touched a ranged weapon in Tri I have take to Light Bowgun like a lobster to the ocean.
Joined a random room with 2 other dudes who were chatting away over the ( surprisingly good quality ) gamepad mic. After a double HR Barroth run wherein I washed all the mud off both with my water shells I was told that I was an amazing bowgunner.
It felt really good.
Do you have any tips? I haven't given it an honest try yet.
Just freakin' shoot?
I wish I could aim with a pointer or the touch screen.
The brachi lance for example... its a piece of shit. I have its final form, because the only other lance slime weapon requires FreeElement. But the brachi lance is still shit on a sandwich. Then again my opinion on slime is that only certain weapons are good for it and others its just a huge waste of time.
I'm curios why you think that. I've made every slime weapon other than the light and heavy bowguns and have the GS, Duals, Lance, and Hammer upgraded where they need g-rank parts. My slime application comparison is also before the upgrades since I used them in rotation before getting the Steel Uragaan and Black Diablos parts for the upgrades.
The Duals are easily the best for applying slime, probably the Brachy bow next, but the lance has been applying slime far, far more often than any other weapon after those two. The SnS would easily be after the lance, given how little slime it applies when I use it. Would probably place it above the hammer and GS. LS after hammer and GS oddly enough. Barely touched the hunting horn, but slime seemed on par with the hammer. Made the gun lance and switch axe but never used them.
Of note for me was the hammer, GS, LS, and SnS. The GS and hammer apply slime at a stupid high rate for me. Add that to Cha-Cha and Kayamba having slime element and it's explosion city for village quests. The SnS and LS never want to make it rain green jelly though, been very disappointed with them slime wise.
Is your issue with it applying slime or damage/sharpness? I'm only HR5 and fought one gold ceadus before calling it last night to help someone with an urgent, but slime seemed to apply just fine on him with the lance like it was a low rank or high rank monster. Damage and sharpness wise I know the Brachy weapons finally taper off when you can upgrade weapons with g-rank parts, so if that's your issue with it I get that.
When I lance, my main two are Stygian Ira and Sol Prominence. So it pretty much comes down to sharpness in G-rank, at least for me. The dios lance has such a tiny amount of white sharp, its just not worth using unless I go with fencing. Sol Prominence can poke for fucking days and never go dull. Stygian Ira has some nice white sharp too, and 2 sockets which let me bump my Attack(s) to (m).... so I swap to it on a fire resistance monster. I do have the fully upgraded dios lance, I tried it a bit and it was lame.
In high rank, slime is super OP. Its still good in G-rank, but mainly with duals swords and kelbi bow.
I'm not sure how you get good slime going with hammer since its slow. I'm currently using the Leonid Starcrusher, which still has an upgrade once I get another rath mantle. I have absolutely no plans to use multiple elements on my hammer setup. There is just no point since I'm going for max KO and Stamina damage. Its a tad below the top damaging hammer, but the top ones have almost zero white sharp.... so unless you are doing ESP attacks only that damage is not worth it.
This is a lot of my playstyle that changes my opinion. I don't like to waste potential slots or armor setups to get ESP in favor of losing my major skills that help my build. For example my hammer setup is black diablos Z, which gives KO, tenderizer and stam drain. I eat to get felyne slugger as well... so like I mentioned a few pages back, I was able to chain KO an azure rathalos 3 times in a row. No joke. I like that advantage over having slime, and the sharpness on the slime hammer wouldn't allow me to do that without losing some skills. The hammer's charge attack does have built in ESP, but after a few good combos you would have to go sharpen. Time sharpening is time possibly getting attacked or time lost where you could do damage/KO the monster... of course using skills to make it sharper or sharpen quicker would surely help, but then one would miss out on the other needed skills to really maximize the hammers potential.
Everything in this game is situational, however, there are some fights that bringing a Lance is just painful. Barioth is a good example. He's doable with a Lance, but bringing a Great Sword, or Sword and Shield, makes that fight go by so much faster.
Do you use the lance counter attack? Makes the Tigrex clones like Barioth easy as shit.
Although their head is also only a 2 feet off the ground, so thats prime hammer smackin' too.
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Oh, I get it! Yes, low sharpness at end-game is kind of a deal-breaker, I am 100% in agreement with that. I generally run heavy on utility skills, such as Sharpness Increase or Perception or whatever is applicable to the situation at hand, so I kind of miss out on the min-max of end-game gear. I understand completely, though, that if you're trying to raise your DPS, having a Lance with a ridiculously low sharpness would be a heavy burden, considering how long it takes to put it away. It's not like a SnS which you can, basically, sharpen on the go.
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After having never touched a ranged weapon in Tri I have take to Light Bowgun like a lobster to the ocean.
Joined a random room with 2 other dudes who were chatting away over the ( surprisingly good quality ) gamepad mic. After a double HR Barroth run wherein I washed all the mud off both with my water shells I was told that I was an amazing bowgunner.
It felt really good.
Do you have any tips? I haven't given it an honest try yet.
Just freakin' shoot?
I wish I could aim with a pointer or the touch screen.
I will do my best to impart some knowledge.
I only use LBG after falling in love with the added mobility it affords. I have 4 separate Gunner sets each tied to the rapid fire element of the Bowgun in each set. I have Frz, Thund, Flaming and Water attack +2 sets. I don't have a status boosting set yet as I have yet to really use anything but an elemental weakness LBG.
To start I pack my bags with full stacks of the best ammo available to me with that gun. When I solo HR I try to take some materials to make more ( but as my bowguns have improved I find I don't need this extra ammo so much, especially not in online HR with 3 other burly men beating on the monster ).
The main thing for bowgunning is just knowing the monsters weakpoints. With my +fire set I can take down a HR Barioth / Rathalos in under 10 minutes. Cripple both his wings and then shoot his face. Enough shots to the wings will make Barioth fall over and the Rathalos reel in pain. There are still plenty of monsters out there I need to get used to but that is half the fun.
Learn to love the right bumper. Holding it in will give you a red targeting reticule which you can control with the dpad ( the left stick moves your character still ) while tapping it takes you to first person which you can control both with dpad or left stick ( you are stationary using this mode, the tradeoff being far better accuracy I find ). Get used to quickly getting out of first person and dodging. It is a skill that you need to master quickly.
Choose when to reload carefully. If you know the monster has a charge with a finishing animation wait until he does that, dodge then immediately reload. It's better to extend the fight by a few minutes than take a charge to the face while reloading, especially if they follow it up and leave you stunned, bad news all round. The same goes for switching ammo types.
Deviation can be a bitch but it is also very satisfying to get a handle on it. Some bowgun shots deviate in various directions to various degrees. Getting used to compensating for this and nailing some shots is extremely satisfying.
Apart from that it's pretty much stay mobile and choose your moments as carefully as you can. I still whiff rapid fire occasionally and not only is that a waste of ammo it can leave you open to attack.
*edit* OH. Most importantly! Learn the range of the various types of ammo. Each ammo type has a maximum effective range but you will get used to this if you give bowgun a shot ( pun intended ).
I'd call myself primary gunlance. I spent a lot of time with the most excellent Baron's Blazon. Got the Rath gunlance now. I took a brief stink of longsword with wyvern blade fire and it's fun to mix it up with a different playstyle every now and then so I think I'll keep both weapons in the mix. I tried a little bit of bow last night while doing some gathering and I have to say I kind of love it. The mechanics of using it are great and I love that you can aim without getting locked into targeting mode like with the bowgun. I'll try to put together an armor set and a nice bow to take every now and then, I think!
Any tips on gigginox? Im using dual swords.
Also my brother mentioned earplugs or something ? Can I make those now? Im still in low rank village.
In low rank, they should be giving you bounce bombs in the item box when you start. When he's on the ceiling, pop one of them where his shadow is on the ground.
Earplugs are great for ANY non blocking weapon (unless you have hunting horn giving the buff). You need +10 in the skill for most monster, but for some like Gigginox, Deviljho, Diablos and Elder Dragons you will need +15 in the skill. Since the game is not friendly with skill names you will be looking for "Hearing" skill which gives "Earplugs".
The brachi lance for example... its a piece of shit. I have its final form, because the only other lance slime weapon requires FreeElement. But the brachi lance is still shit on a sandwich. Then again my opinion on slime is that only certain weapons are good for it and others its just a huge waste of time.
I'm curios why you think that. I've made every slime weapon other than the light and heavy bowguns and have the GS, Duals, Lance, and Hammer upgraded where they need g-rank parts. My slime application comparison is also before the upgrades since I used them in rotation before getting the Steel Uragaan and Black Diablos parts for the upgrades.
The Duals are easily the best for applying slime, probably the Brachy bow next, but the lance has been applying slime far, far more often than any other weapon after those two. The SnS would easily be after the lance, given how little slime it applies when I use it. Would probably place it above the hammer and GS. LS after hammer and GS oddly enough. Barely touched the hunting horn, but slime seemed on par with the hammer. Made the gun lance and switch axe but never used them.
Of note for me was the hammer, GS, LS, and SnS. The GS and hammer apply slime at a stupid high rate for me. Add that to Cha-Cha and Kayamba having slime element and it's explosion city for village quests. The SnS and LS never want to make it rain green jelly though, been very disappointed with them slime wise.
Is your issue with it applying slime or damage/sharpness? I'm only HR5 and fought one gold ceadus before calling it last night to help someone with an urgent, but slime seemed to apply just fine on him with the lance like it was a low rank or high rank monster. Damage and sharpness wise I know the Brachy weapons finally taper off when you can upgrade weapons with g-rank parts, so if that's your issue with it I get that.
Everything in this game is situational, however, there are some fights that bringing a Lance is just painful. Barioth is a good example. He's doable with a Lance, but bringing a Great Sword, or Sword and Shield, makes that fight go by so much faster.
Do you use the lance counter attack? Makes the Tigrex clones like Barioth easy as shit.
Although their head is also only a 2 feet off the ground, so thats prime hammer smackin' too.
MH Tri taught me to abuse the hell out of Counter, with the glorious stab, stab, stab, counter, stab, stab, stab, counter. In this one, they adjusted it, so it's good and a lot more tactical. I generally wait for a volley from the monster and do the Counter then. I find myself a lot of times waiting to do that final third stab, just to see if I need to Counter or not. I tend to stab a lot slower in Tri Ultimate than I would in Tri because of the non-instantaneous Counter, and it works greatly to my advantage. Counter also has natural ESP, by the way, not something that you can rely on, of course, but, nonetheless, it's there!
Without any Guard+, the Counter on Barioth is a little tricky because he overextends so much and is so fast, when I can get myself Guard +2, Barioth goes down like a sack of pertaters. I still find him so much easier with either a fire-based SnS or with a Great Sword, if I have a Crit Draw set, which, sadly, I have not yet made. I can probably start, though, because I've killed at least a dozen Diablosesesses, with a mix of low and high rank ones...probably no Majestic Horns, though...those have always been such a pain to get, even though I shatter both horns on them usually.
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So I made some dual swords. Any tips? I know R to go into demon mode and if I release when max, I can do Archdemon mode, but is there some dos/donots regarding attacks? e.g. Hammer is mainly about super pounds and triple pounds.
So I made some dual swords. Any tips? I know R to go into demon mode and if I release when max, I can do Archdemon mode, but is there some dos/donots regarding attacks? e.g. Hammer is mainly about super pounds and triple pounds.
General rule of thumb is do not use the Demon Dance (x+a in Demon Mode) unless the monster is immobilized. Also, do not rely on the Demon Dance to build your Demon Charge; the "a" attack from Demon Mode (the spinny helicopter dance) is a lot better at building the Demon Charge than Demon Dance anyway. After the first spin of the helicopter attack you can dodge, which is great for getting out of the way.
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Oh, I get it! Yes, low sharpness at end-game is kind of a deal-breaker, I am 100% in agreement with that. I generally run heavy on utility skills, such as Sharpness Increase or Perception or whatever is applicable to the situation at hand, so I kind of miss out on the min-max of end-game gear. I understand completely, though, that if you're trying to raise your DPS, having a Lance with a ridiculously low sharpness would be a heavy burden, considering how long it takes to put it away. It's not like a SnS which you can, basically, sharpen on the go.
Pretty much. I'm not trying to be an elitist poopsocker who says, "Do things my way". By all means, people make the Dios Lance work in G-rank. Its super common. But the way I play, I don't want to get armor skills just to make up for something the weapon itself is lacking.
Like I said, I have the fully upgraded Dios lance and I don't enjoy it at all. I'm sure I could get gear that makes it work better, but it just doesn't appeal to me.
Slime is indeed really good. G-rank though, I don't find it to be what everyone should use. I've found my own ways of making farming groups go extremely fast with only 1 person (dual swords or kelbi bow) using slime. My hammer setup for example would never work with slime, unless they added some sharper slime weapons. Because its not possible to get the right skills to make up for what it lacks and still have all the skills that help me get such easy KO's.
I guess I did state things wrong when I said the slime lance is total shit... the way I play, its total shit.
Any tips on gigginox? Im using dual swords.
Also my brother mentioned earplugs or something ? Can I make those now? Im still in low rank village.
Earplugs are nice, but I found poison negation made him close to a joke which you can get from the Froggi armor set. Mostly watch out for her heads, I generally attacked his sides for quick easy hits, then if she started laying eggs, whaling like crazy on the far side of the tail.
If she turns grayish be a little more conservative, she'll be more aggressive and uses fewer long duration attacks to capitalize on. If you can get the bouncing bombs to work for you you can bring her crashing down from the ceiling, though most of the times I tried she either jumped off early and landed on me, or did a grapple style attack which hurt. I just ran away while up there and healed/sharpened ect.
As a side note I would very much recommend building the bloodwing set of DS which can be built from Giggi's parts. Its a poison attack sword which really helps especially against durumboros.
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Getting rid of the skills low rank Lagiacrus had in Tri definitely makes it more tedious until you get better weapons. Thankfully they did nerf his health, or, seems like they did at least.
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Lancer for lyfehere, man. Even my Dark Souls character was as close to a Monster Hunter Lancer as I could get in that game. There's just this beauty about the massive reach that you have, and the fact that you never let up on the pressure on monsters. Great Swords, Dual Swords, Longswords, you guys have to do silly things like evade and rolling and dodging, I give zero cares, if a monster attacks me, he's getting Lanced in the face as punishment for his gall, if he runs away, I chase him down and put on some serious hurting.
I generally gravitate between being a primarily Sword and Shield or Lance user. Can't quite put my finger on which one is my hands-down favorite. Hunting Horn is awesome and all, but it still is nowhere near the WMD that a Lance is.
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Stop tempting me to put aside my crazy gunner run and to embrace the lance like I was born to wield it.
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Some jump out of the way of a charging Barroth, lancers charge directly at the foolish Barroth, and then punish him for his insolence.
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You are evil.
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Stop making me want to Lance.
You are pulling me away from the True Path of the Switch-Axe.
Wish I didn't have to work and could just Monster Hunter all day long.
I must admit, though, I am having a blast with Bows, whenever I bring them on a hunt. They are just so much fun it's silly. I just bought myself something along the lines of 300 Nitroshrooms last night, so I'll be good to go with Power Coatings for quite a while now. The Heavy Bowgun, if you can situate yourself well enough to do the Croush-Fire, has so much damage potential, that I don't think other weapons can truly match it.
Everything in this game is situational, however, there are some fights that bringing a Lance is just painful. Barioth is a good example. He's doable with a Lance, but bringing a Great Sword, or Sword and Shield, makes that fight go by so much faster.
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Oh, I agree. I was only kidding. At some point I'll make a blademaster set and go back and build up some lances, gunlances and hunting horns. I am just focusing on gunning right now because I am finding it enjoyable and fun to play.
It's good to have some variation in there.
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Longsword.
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This.
Whenever I need the things I go here.
Just beat Rathian for the first time. My preferred weapon for new monsters is my trusty Gunlance. High explosive power (Wyvern's fire) and great defense option.
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Morda, when do you get on? You must be on the west coast or something? The few times I played with you it was like 10:30 eastern or later.
Aye, the times we've played together have been too few and too far between! I'm on...I believe Mountain Standard Time. It's hard here in Arizona, because half the year we're Mountain and half the year we're Pacific or something. I'm usually on around 19:00 MST, due to that being my kids' bedtime, although wife has been letting me cheat lately and get on earlier. Tonight I'll be on at 19:00 MST, I'll ignore Bioshock for now :P
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It takes 10mins per fight if you're using the Balistas an Dragonator right and have decent weapons.
Online Golden form that is. slowest time when farming him was ~13mins am I'm only rank 6.
Break poonts are the two horns, the beard, the back, and the tail.
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Also my brother mentioned earplugs or something ? Can I make those now? Im still in low rank village.
Can you trap and cap him? Never thought about that possibility.
Can you also just repel him like in the village quest?
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In other news, Dire Miralis is quite the adventure. We went in not knowing what to expect and pulled a victory by the skin of our teeth. Knowing what to expect now, I'm hoping it'll be easier when I have it do it myself.
General rule of thumb is that any "true dragon" cannot be capped. Rathalos and Rathian aren't true dragons, they're only wyverns. True dragons in Tri Ultiamte are Ceadeus, Alatreon, Jhen Mohran, and the Fatalis end-boss guy. Even Devil Jho, who uses the Dragon Element, is still a Brute Wyvern so he can be capped.
MHFU had a crapton of true dragons, Chameleos, Fatalis, Kushala Daora, Lao Shan Lung and I don't think any of those could be captured either.
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Joined a random room with 2 other dudes who were chatting away over the ( surprisingly good quality ) gamepad mic. After a double HR Barroth run wherein I washed all the mud off both with my water shells I was told that I was an amazing bowgunner.
It felt really good.
You should feel good! Bowgunning is somewhat tricky because of all the incidentals that you have to keep track of. Having a good bowgunner in a group is really beneficial. Then there's me, firing Pellet Level 3 shots at the monster while hitting all the other hunters :P
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Do you have any tips? I haven't given it an honest try yet.
Just freakin' shoot?
I wish I could aim with a pointer or the touch screen.
When I lance, my main two are Stygian Ira and Sol Prominence. So it pretty much comes down to sharpness in G-rank, at least for me. The dios lance has such a tiny amount of white sharp, its just not worth using unless I go with fencing. Sol Prominence can poke for fucking days and never go dull. Stygian Ira has some nice white sharp too, and 2 sockets which let me bump my Attack(s) to (m).... so I swap to it on a fire resistance monster. I do have the fully upgraded dios lance, I tried it a bit and it was lame.
In high rank, slime is super OP. Its still good in G-rank, but mainly with duals swords and kelbi bow.
I'm not sure how you get good slime going with hammer since its slow. I'm currently using the Leonid Starcrusher, which still has an upgrade once I get another rath mantle. I have absolutely no plans to use multiple elements on my hammer setup. There is just no point since I'm going for max KO and Stamina damage. Its a tad below the top damaging hammer, but the top ones have almost zero white sharp.... so unless you are doing ESP attacks only that damage is not worth it.
This is a lot of my playstyle that changes my opinion. I don't like to waste potential slots or armor setups to get ESP in favor of losing my major skills that help my build. For example my hammer setup is black diablos Z, which gives KO, tenderizer and stam drain. I eat to get felyne slugger as well... so like I mentioned a few pages back, I was able to chain KO an azure rathalos 3 times in a row. No joke. I like that advantage over having slime, and the sharpness on the slime hammer wouldn't allow me to do that without losing some skills. The hammer's charge attack does have built in ESP, but after a few good combos you would have to go sharpen. Time sharpening is time possibly getting attacked or time lost where you could do damage/KO the monster... of course using skills to make it sharper or sharpen quicker would surely help, but then one would miss out on the other needed skills to really maximize the hammers potential.
Do you use the lance counter attack? Makes the Tigrex clones like Barioth easy as shit.
Although their head is also only a 2 feet off the ground, so thats prime hammer smackin' too.
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I will do my best to impart some knowledge.
I only use LBG after falling in love with the added mobility it affords. I have 4 separate Gunner sets each tied to the rapid fire element of the Bowgun in each set. I have Frz, Thund, Flaming and Water attack +2 sets. I don't have a status boosting set yet as I have yet to really use anything but an elemental weakness LBG.
To start I pack my bags with full stacks of the best ammo available to me with that gun. When I solo HR I try to take some materials to make more ( but as my bowguns have improved I find I don't need this extra ammo so much, especially not in online HR with 3 other burly men beating on the monster ).
The main thing for bowgunning is just knowing the monsters weakpoints. With my +fire set I can take down a HR Barioth / Rathalos in under 10 minutes. Cripple both his wings and then shoot his face. Enough shots to the wings will make Barioth fall over and the Rathalos reel in pain. There are still plenty of monsters out there I need to get used to but that is half the fun.
Learn to love the right bumper. Holding it in will give you a red targeting reticule which you can control with the dpad ( the left stick moves your character still ) while tapping it takes you to first person which you can control both with dpad or left stick ( you are stationary using this mode, the tradeoff being far better accuracy I find ). Get used to quickly getting out of first person and dodging. It is a skill that you need to master quickly.
Choose when to reload carefully. If you know the monster has a charge with a finishing animation wait until he does that, dodge then immediately reload. It's better to extend the fight by a few minutes than take a charge to the face while reloading, especially if they follow it up and leave you stunned, bad news all round. The same goes for switching ammo types.
Deviation can be a bitch but it is also very satisfying to get a handle on it. Some bowgun shots deviate in various directions to various degrees. Getting used to compensating for this and nailing some shots is extremely satisfying.
Apart from that it's pretty much stay mobile and choose your moments as carefully as you can. I still whiff rapid fire occasionally and not only is that a waste of ammo it can leave you open to attack.
*edit* OH. Most importantly! Learn the range of the various types of ammo. Each ammo type has a maximum effective range but you will get used to this if you give bowgun a shot ( pun intended ).
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In low rank, they should be giving you bounce bombs in the item box when you start. When he's on the ceiling, pop one of them where his shadow is on the ground.
Earplugs are great for ANY non blocking weapon (unless you have hunting horn giving the buff). You need +10 in the skill for most monster, but for some like Gigginox, Deviljho, Diablos and Elder Dragons you will need +15 in the skill. Since the game is not friendly with skill names you will be looking for "Hearing" skill which gives "Earplugs".
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MH Tri taught me to abuse the hell out of Counter, with the glorious stab, stab, stab, counter, stab, stab, stab, counter. In this one, they adjusted it, so it's good and a lot more tactical. I generally wait for a volley from the monster and do the Counter then. I find myself a lot of times waiting to do that final third stab, just to see if I need to Counter or not. I tend to stab a lot slower in Tri Ultimate than I would in Tri because of the non-instantaneous Counter, and it works greatly to my advantage. Counter also has natural ESP, by the way, not something that you can rely on, of course, but, nonetheless, it's there!
Without any Guard+, the Counter on Barioth is a little tricky because he overextends so much and is so fast, when I can get myself Guard +2, Barioth goes down like a sack of pertaters. I still find him so much easier with either a fire-based SnS or with a Great Sword, if I have a Crit Draw set, which, sadly, I have not yet made. I can probably start, though, because I've killed at least a dozen Diablosesesses, with a mix of low and high rank ones...probably no Majestic Horns, though...those have always been such a pain to get, even though I shatter both horns on them usually.
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General rule of thumb is do not use the Demon Dance (x+a in Demon Mode) unless the monster is immobilized. Also, do not rely on the Demon Dance to build your Demon Charge; the "a" attack from Demon Mode (the spinny helicopter dance) is a lot better at building the Demon Charge than Demon Dance anyway. After the first spin of the helicopter attack you can dodge, which is great for getting out of the way.
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Pretty much. I'm not trying to be an elitist poopsocker who says, "Do things my way". By all means, people make the Dios Lance work in G-rank. Its super common. But the way I play, I don't want to get armor skills just to make up for something the weapon itself is lacking.
Like I said, I have the fully upgraded Dios lance and I don't enjoy it at all. I'm sure I could get gear that makes it work better, but it just doesn't appeal to me.
Slime is indeed really good. G-rank though, I don't find it to be what everyone should use. I've found my own ways of making farming groups go extremely fast with only 1 person (dual swords or kelbi bow) using slime. My hammer setup for example would never work with slime, unless they added some sharper slime weapons. Because its not possible to get the right skills to make up for what it lacks and still have all the skills that help me get such easy KO's.
I guess I did state things wrong when I said the slime lance is total shit... the way I play, its total shit.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Earplugs are nice, but I found poison negation made him close to a joke which you can get from the Froggi armor set. Mostly watch out for her heads, I generally attacked his sides for quick easy hits, then if she started laying eggs, whaling like crazy on the far side of the tail.
If she turns grayish be a little more conservative, she'll be more aggressive and uses fewer long duration attacks to capitalize on. If you can get the bouncing bombs to work for you you can bring her crashing down from the ceiling, though most of the times I tried she either jumped off early and landed on me, or did a grapple style attack which hurt. I just ran away while up there and healed/sharpened ect.
As a side note I would very much recommend building the bloodwing set of DS which can be built from Giggi's parts. Its a poison attack sword which really helps especially against durumboros.