Playing through 3 again with a Fem Shep for the first time, and seeing the potential implications of everything going on really makes me want to see Mass Effect 4 take place somewhat recently after 3. Lots of the deals and decisions going on are temporary at best and could lead to a whole bunch of smaller scale conflicts once everyone is over the defeat of the Reapers.
So far at least the whole Turian/Krogan conflict over the bomb could spill over badly. It doesn't help that the Primarch's own son almost blundered the entire mission. Sure, he made up for it with his sacrifice, but like Garrus says, it was just an "expected" action of him. The Victus name is pretty much tarnished. Also, the Quarians are now possibly the most militarized race in the galaxy thanks to their arming of all of the Flotilla ships.
I can imagine the main character in 4 having to deal with the fallout of the actions in 3.
It's not tarnished, I think. As Victus says,
his name will go down in the annals of his regiment's history.
I can imagine Victus trying to be optimistic while mourning over his son's death. I think Garrus was speaking the cold truth.
I read it as Victus was right about his son's success/death, but his tone of voice would meant he would have much preferred his son be alive even if that meant the mission was failed.
And in the Citadel DLC, everyone needs to take EDI on the last leg of the actual mission. Or just click on the following link.
Man, as much as I truly love the MP, I swear to god in ME4 they better not have this "disconnected means nothing you did counts" bullshit.
It's only silver or whatever, but I've been dropped from the last 3 games during the last 30 seconds of extraction. And I don't know why, but it seems like it's always more common with extraction.
Sure, it's only 20 minute increments or whatever, but losing 3 full games of progress in a row is really god-damn annoying.
So, let's say I finish the main DLC plot missions but postpone doing the party. Will former party members show up in the DLC hub and be available for the party as I do their side missions when they come up?
EDIT: Anyone? I'd really like to not screw up and miss dialogue and interactions with everyone.
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Man, as much as I truly love the MP, I swear to god in ME4 they better not have this "disconnected means nothing you did counts" bullshit.
It's only silver or whatever, but I've been dropped from the last 3 games during the last 30 seconds of extraction. And I don't know why, but it seems like it's always more common with extraction.
Sure, it's only 20 minute increments or whatever, but losing 3 full games of progress in a row is really god-damn annoying.
I'm surprised I haven't come against the horrible DC problems since coming back to multi a few days ago. I remember the problem being so insidious before that playing multi felt like a 50/50 deal - half the time it was ok, half the time it was the worst.
the reegar is the one true gun in all of singleplayer from now on
i mean it is got dam ridiculous
regarding the endings:
my personal shep will always choose green, because i did set up joker and edi and make peace on rannoch just to throw that all away.
and if aunt mildred is a banshee and still wants to come over for thanksgiving, ya'll are just gonna have to deal.
that said, i can totally see my other sheps picking destroy and control. my jack-romanced shep pretty much has to survive, because he made a promise.
my 'no-bullshit' femshep will probably go control, because she personally sees no problem with fixing the problems of an incredibly incompetent galaxy. I like to think she probably has javik hang out with onboard her and they sail around trolling the council races
the possibilities are ENDLESS. thessia was just the beginning. i'm talking officially-sanctioned reaper/thresher maw wrestling matches played before massive crowds on tuchanka. I'm talking making the quarians name all their toasters. i'm talking founding a new religion that OFFICIALLY renames all batarians to some variation of 'Blight'. she can't fucking wait.
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I love that little exchange with Legion where Shep is like
"What have you been up to?" And Legion explains that after ME2 he went back to the Geth and warned them about the Reapers, and the Geth started to get ready for war, and Shep is like "They believed you?!" And Legion just says "Of course."
And Shep is just slightly disgusted saying
That must have been nice
Makes me chuckle every time, but also encapsulates everything that's annoying about the fucking leaders and politicians across the ME games.
On the chance that someone at BioWare will see it (I know we still have a couple of active BW posters here, and probably a couple more lurkers), I'll make a post tomorrow
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CambiataCommander ShepardThe likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered Userregular
You could always batsignal vsove. Or even Takyris, it's possible he lurks here without posting (though not probable).
Overload to rip shields/barriers
Tactical Scan to provide support/scout for Snap Freeze through walls
Snap Freeze because Snap Freeze is hilariously good
Project Phoenix passive for shotgun/pistol weight and massive power damage?
I guess my favorite character is a pure caster. I don't think adrenaline rush/devastator mode/marksman would play nice.
On the chance that someone at BioWare will see it (I know we still have a couple of active BW posters here, and probably a couple more lurkers), I'll make a post tomorrow
You have my sword to carry thine message to the gates of hell, or the Bioware forums, whichever is closet.
Overload to rip shields/barriers
Tactical Scan to provide support/scout for Snap Freeze through walls
Snap Freeze because Snap Freeze is hilariously good
Project Phoenix passive for shotgun/pistol weight and massive power damage?
I guess my favorite character is a pure caster. I don't think adrenaline rush/devastator mode/marksman would play nice.
slap a geth scanner on a n7 paladin and you're basically there
try it with a falcon and just alternate between fire, electricity, and ice. you are an elemental god, and there's the joy of smacking phantoms around at will.
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A few pages ago, but volus combatants are fully supported by the lore, going as far back as ME1.
As a client race of the turians, the volus fill in auxillary roles in their military. You also have that volus diplomat in ME3 whom gives you a small volus fleet when you give him the Erune quest item.
Plus it makes sense. How could they become the dominant species of their planet without hunting? Humans are smaller and weaker than a lot of predator and prey animals. We managed to kill them all just fine, because we used tactics and weapons. Same rule applies to the volus.
Sure, they are smaller and less agile, but there are surely to be some exceptional volus. Especially when you have things that level out the physical differences, like guns, shields, armor, biotics, ect. Krogan can kill thresher maws and humans can kill krogans. The difference in mass between species doesn't matter with advanced weaponry and tech.
Plus, how big do you need to be when it comes to spaceship combat and space magic?
And for the record, I want a volus squadmate in ME4.
Size matters not. Judge me by my size, do you?
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Overload to rip shields/barriers
Tactical Scan to provide support/scout for Snap Freeze through walls
Snap Freeze because Snap Freeze is hilariously good
Project Phoenix passive for shotgun/pistol weight and massive power damage?
I guess my favorite character is a pure caster. I don't think adrenaline rush/devastator mode/marksman would play nice.
slap a geth scanner on a n7 paladin and you're basically there
try it with a falcon and just alternate between fire, electricity, and ice. you are an elemental god, and there's the joy of smacking phantoms around at will.
I don't have the Geth Scanner.
I want one so bad.
I play so much shockwave/snap freeze through walls and sometimes I am nice enough to get people to actually recon mine stuff for me.
EDIT: Speaking of shield hilarity, I love dragoon AI against shields. They run at the speed of light up to you, get a sort of sad look, pull out their whips and then freeze themselves because it's all they know. And then you slap them around.
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CambiataCommander ShepardThe likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered Userregular
The current run I'm doing is the first I've done with the ME3 datapad. Some of these emails are great (focusing on the Javik one here)
If we're talking all life here (and they showed trees and shit with green glowly shit) then it has to work for microorganisms too.
The biology major in me was intellectually offended by how poorly thought out the ramifications of the green ending were.
That and it felt like they were shamelessly ripping off BSG, but not even the best parts of BSG, the ending that people disliked.
Lets be honest here. You're arguing rational Biology Vs Space magic.
Space Magic is blatantly cooler because it's not just Magic, but magic in space, and we know adding Space to anything makes it cooler.
I really disagree with it and it's one of the reasons why I don't like the Star Wars prequels.
"It's the Force/Space Magic!" That is just an excuse for bad writing.
A story is supposed to have it's own internal rules. Biotics are space magic, but they are consisent with the internal rules of the ME universe. The green ending contradicts those rules with no explination of how it works or the ramifications on what it does. It literally changed everything that was established in the past three games with no explination on how or why.
It's a very poor ending. Reject is better than green.
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Ok this isn't really about the ending, but more the end sequence. Something that never sat well with me was how the Reapers took the Citadel to Earth orbit. Had they just captured it and closed the arms it would've been much more secure than putting it in the Sol system and connecting it to a transport beam, right?
Now I understand why the writers did it. Emotionally it makes sense to begin the story on Earth and end it there. Full circle and all. I just think they could've handled the execution differently. Were it up to me I would've had the Reapers keep the Citadel where it is and then solved the problem by making a callback to Mass Effect 1 with The Conduit. Not the original one on Ilos, but rather an experimental replica the Alliance secretly constructed on Earth after Saren's attack. Constructed specifically as a contingency to prevent the Alliance from ever losing access to the Citadel. In the briefing where this is revealed to Shepard by Hackett (or preferably the N7 Director/General) they could also reveal that had Shepard not arrived when she did during the Cerberus coup, an N7 team back on Earth was prepping to go in. In this case you get the justification for having the final battle take place on Earth, while not having to rely on the Reapers being stupid/overconfident in order for it to happen.
I also wish the ground battle on Earth could've been on a much grander scale. I'm not sure if this was a time/budget constraint or if they specifically wanted to give it the feel of a covert strike. But after the grand fleet arrival, which still gives me a lump in my throat every time I see it, it's always a bit of a letdown when it gets to the much smaller group of shuttles flying down to London. I wish we could've seen massive landings all over the globe. Turians in Rio, Asari commandos in Vancouver, Krogans everywhere. Basically something grand enough to give the impression that the entire galaxy is actually trying to take back Earth, when in reality it's a cover to allow Shepard's team to sneak into London and get to the Conduit II.
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Dhalphirdon't you open that trapdooryou're a fool if you dareRegistered Userregular
And war assets showing up or not showing up depending on what you have.
And war assets showing up or not showing up depending on what you have.
Oh definitely. I know I'm not the only one a little salty over the fact we never got to see Krogans riding Kakliosaurs into battle.
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The only thing I have to say about the ending that I haven't seen yet is that the choice shouldn't have been three buttons at the end of the game. If the ending had been a culmination of the choices you had made thus far (essentially a much more complicated war readiness formula kind of thing), I think it would have been easier to accept.
As far as the landings on Earth, apparently there was a lot of shuttles, it's just that 90% (at the least) never made it.
I know.
I get the justification for it. I just find it to be a bit of a letdown. Not long before that you have Hackett saying "Shepard, are you ready to bring the galaxy's unified might against the Reapers?" And you're all "HELL YES I AM!" And then the fleets all arrive and it's everything I ever wanted and even the Destiny Ascension is there and she's beautiful but then you get to the landing and suddenly it's like well that went sideways fast.
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CambiataCommander ShepardThe likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered Userregular
Dhalphirdon't you open that trapdooryou're a fool if you dareRegistered Userregular
I would have liked to see the choice be more like Deus Ex (the original).
You effectively had the choice of three endings in that one too, but to do each ending required accomplishing a different set of tasks scattered around the final level before going to a final area to complete the game. It felt a lot more immersive.
ME3 would have been good that way if you went around the Citadel to different locations
I think Cambiata said this, but if you removed the Catalyst from the ending and just had -let's just say, Liara- come on your headset and say, "You must either destroy this thing, control the reapers, jump in a beam, or do nothing." It would have made the ending better.
I've always felt that Starkids existence subverted the reapers and I hate that.
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Having manfully avoided discussion of the DLC content until now (as I haven't finished it), I have to say "yep, that IS an action movie", complete with the requisite
fleet of police and emergency vehicles swarming around the no-longer-hijacked [strike]plane[/strike]ship at the end. Also Harrison Ford references.
Quality. VERY good. It's totally meta fan service, but it's well done meta fan service. And the bit at the end woulda been easier with a Widow instead of a Javelin. Then again, the Javelin pretty much ignores solid objects...
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CambiataCommander ShepardThe likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered Userregular
So the first time I played Citadel, I noticed
That Liara looked at Shepard appreciatively and commented on her outfit. Even though they were only friends I thought it was kind of cute, because obviously early on Liara was attracted to my Shepard, so she's allowed to appreciate the goods sometimes, you know? The only thing that bothered me about it was the fact that the outfit I picked was the same thing my Shep always wears, because she wants to be comfortable, damnit, and there isnt' much else for her to choose from: she wore the hoodie. So second time around, I tried to pick something a little different, but that's when I realized again, that there just ain't nothing good for femshep to wear.
I was hoping the appearance pack might have something nice, but nope. That skanky leather dress just never looked good to me. But it's either that or dress uniform, I guess.
I tried it with just a regular grunt uniform but this second time around it was Garrus, not Liara (because I finalized the relationship before I started Citadel this time) and Garrus looking over the plain jane uniform and saying, "mmm... nice!" reveals the programming too much, because it's still just the same shep in uniform except without the cute hoodie.
In short: I'm reloading my save to try a better outfit.
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Even a headshot to them is doing dick-all damage wise. Lancer and Venom are probably the way to go here.
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And in the Citadel DLC, everyone needs to take EDI on the last leg of the actual mission. Or just click on the following link.
The hell you talking about. Executioner headshots are amazing.
It's only silver or whatever, but I've been dropped from the last 3 games during the last 30 seconds of extraction. And I don't know why, but it seems like it's always more common with extraction.
Sure, it's only 20 minute increments or whatever, but losing 3 full games of progress in a row is really god-damn annoying.
EDIT: Anyone? I'd really like to not screw up and miss dialogue and interactions with everyone.
I'm surprised I haven't come against the horrible DC problems since coming back to multi a few days ago. I remember the problem being so insidious before that playing multi felt like a 50/50 deal - half the time it was ok, half the time it was the worst.
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i mean it is got dam ridiculous
regarding the endings:
and if aunt mildred is a banshee and still wants to come over for thanksgiving, ya'll are just gonna have to deal.
that said, i can totally see my other sheps picking destroy and control. my jack-romanced shep pretty much has to survive, because he made a promise.
my 'no-bullshit' femshep will probably go control, because she personally sees no problem with fixing the problems of an incredibly incompetent galaxy. I like to think she probably has javik hang out with onboard her and they sail around trolling the council races
the possibilities are ENDLESS. thessia was just the beginning. i'm talking officially-sanctioned reaper/thresher maw wrestling matches played before massive crowds on tuchanka. I'm talking making the quarians name all their toasters. i'm talking founding a new religion that OFFICIALLY renames all batarians to some variation of 'Blight'. she can't fucking wait.
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And Shep is just slightly disgusted saying
That must have been nice
Makes me chuckle every time, but also encapsulates everything that's annoying about the fucking leaders and politicians across the ME games.
by this time the volus-yagh imperium has grown so massive that all others have become client races
reapershep rolls up at the biggest celebration ceremony and says in a bass tone "in MY cycle, the volus were round and all had asthma, hahahaha!"
and then reapershep brofists the yahg because "you boys have always been pretty cool and competent as fuck. good on ya."
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Especially
And the final goodbyes in the firebase
I think I'm about to make a bigger post. This has been my go-to game for about a year now, which hasn't happened since 1998.
There's a non-zero chance someone from BioWare could read this, right? If I write something.
probably. go for it anyway.
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On the chance that someone at BioWare will see it (I know we still have a couple of active BW posters here, and probably a couple more lurkers), I'll make a post tomorrow
Overload
Snap Freeze
hmm... Tactical Scan?
Overload to rip shields/barriers
Tactical Scan to provide support/scout for Snap Freeze through walls
Snap Freeze because Snap Freeze is hilariously good
Project Phoenix passive for shotgun/pistol weight and massive power damage?
I guess my favorite character is a pure caster. I don't think adrenaline rush/devastator mode/marksman would play nice.
You have my sword to carry thine message to the gates of hell, or the Bioware forums, whichever is closet.
Sometimes Taky checks his PA PMs too.
I'm going to have to play this damn thing repeatedly...
slap a geth scanner on a n7 paladin and you're basically there
try it with a falcon and just alternate between fire, electricity, and ice. you are an elemental god, and there's the joy of smacking phantoms around at will.
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As a client race of the turians, the volus fill in auxillary roles in their military. You also have that volus diplomat in ME3 whom gives you a small volus fleet when you give him the Erune quest item.
Plus it makes sense. How could they become the dominant species of their planet without hunting? Humans are smaller and weaker than a lot of predator and prey animals. We managed to kill them all just fine, because we used tactics and weapons. Same rule applies to the volus.
Sure, they are smaller and less agile, but there are surely to be some exceptional volus. Especially when you have things that level out the physical differences, like guns, shields, armor, biotics, ect. Krogan can kill thresher maws and humans can kill krogans. The difference in mass between species doesn't matter with advanced weaponry and tech.
Plus, how big do you need to be when it comes to spaceship combat and space magic?
And for the record, I want a volus squadmate in ME4.
Size matters not. Judge me by my size, do you?
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I don't have the Geth Scanner.
I want one so bad.
I play so much shockwave/snap freeze through walls and sometimes I am nice enough to get people to actually recon mine stuff for me.
EDIT: Speaking of shield hilarity, I love dragoon AI against shields. They run at the speed of light up to you, get a sort of sad look, pull out their whips and then freeze themselves because it's all they know. And then you slap them around.
I really disagree with it and it's one of the reasons why I don't like the Star Wars prequels.
"It's the Force/Space Magic!" That is just an excuse for bad writing.
A story is supposed to have it's own internal rules. Biotics are space magic, but they are consisent with the internal rules of the ME universe. The green ending contradicts those rules with no explination of how it works or the ramifications on what it does. It literally changed everything that was established in the past three games with no explination on how or why.
It's a very poor ending. Reject is better than green.
Battlenet ID: MildC#11186 - If I'm in the game, send me an invite at anytime and I'll play.
Now I understand why the writers did it. Emotionally it makes sense to begin the story on Earth and end it there. Full circle and all. I just think they could've handled the execution differently. Were it up to me I would've had the Reapers keep the Citadel where it is and then solved the problem by making a callback to Mass Effect 1 with The Conduit. Not the original one on Ilos, but rather an experimental replica the Alliance secretly constructed on Earth after Saren's attack. Constructed specifically as a contingency to prevent the Alliance from ever losing access to the Citadel. In the briefing where this is revealed to Shepard by Hackett (or preferably the N7 Director/General) they could also reveal that had Shepard not arrived when she did during the Cerberus coup, an N7 team back on Earth was prepping to go in. In this case you get the justification for having the final battle take place on Earth, while not having to rely on the Reapers being stupid/overconfident in order for it to happen.
I also wish the ground battle on Earth could've been on a much grander scale. I'm not sure if this was a time/budget constraint or if they specifically wanted to give it the feel of a covert strike. But after the grand fleet arrival, which still gives me a lump in my throat every time I see it, it's always a bit of a letdown when it gets to the much smaller group of shuttles flying down to London. I wish we could've seen massive landings all over the globe. Turians in Rio, Asari commandos in Vancouver, Krogans everywhere. Basically something grand enough to give the impression that the entire galaxy is actually trying to take back Earth, when in reality it's a cover to allow Shepard's team to sneak into London and get to the Conduit II.
Oh definitely. I know I'm not the only one a little salty over the fact we never got to see Krogans riding Kakliosaurs into battle.
I know.
Yeah you're not the only one.
Also in searching for those images I found this. And I had to share it, you know how I do.
ME3 would have been good that way if you went around the Citadel to different locations
I've always felt that Starkids existence subverted the reapers and I hate that.
Battlenet ID: MildC#11186 - If I'm in the game, send me an invite at anytime and I'll play.
Quality. VERY good. It's totally meta fan service, but it's well done meta fan service. And the bit at the end woulda been easier with a Widow instead of a Javelin. Then again, the Javelin pretty much ignores solid objects...
I was hoping the appearance pack might have something nice, but nope. That skanky leather dress just never looked good to me. But it's either that or dress uniform, I guess.
I tried it with just a regular grunt uniform but this second time around it was Garrus, not Liara (because I finalized the relationship before I started Citadel this time) and Garrus looking over the plain jane uniform and saying, "mmm... nice!" reveals the programming too much, because it's still just the same shep in uniform except without the cute hoodie.
In short: I'm reloading my save to try a better outfit.
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