Nintendo hasn't had a good first year since....maybe the SNES. They'll have one or two solid games, but most of the releases will be mediocre to shit. Then they blow their load during year 2 and they continue trickling stuff from then on. It's not ideal, but Nintendo tends to play it safe to maintain a steady profit.
They have an advantage this time around in that they are making their online system very welcoming to indies and non-AAA developers. If they handle this well, they'll have a steady stream of exclusives throughout the system's life.
I can't say I'm happy with my Wii U purchase (expected the digital games to come out faster), but I have faith they'll right the ship over the year.
And maybe somebody else would aggressively buy up the right properties and forge the right partnerships to propel Nintendo forward. They succeed by having games that make people say "dammit, now I have to buy a Nintendo system for that." They need more of those!
I think they focus too much on Japan, securing Dragon Quest and Monster Hunter but nothing for the west. They need to realize Japan is not interested in consoles anymore, but the west still is, if you give them the right games.
Nintendo needs to money-hat Bethesda and get a Fall Out exclusive. The WiiU pad as the pipboy just makes sense.
Or be lazy and money-hat a FO Collection for WiiU only. The PC versions will port over easily, and it will look better than the other consoles. Top it off by allowing console commands.
Yay ZombiU death loops. You would think they'd respawn you before the 'spawn giant wave coming to kill you' trigger so you can get your stuff back first instead of fighting giant wave + your previous self as a super zombie now with only a cricket bat and 6 shots and zero time to prepare.
Yay ZombiU death loops. You would think they'd respawn you before the 'spawn giant wave coming to kill you' trigger so you can get your stuff back first instead of fighting giant wave + your previous self as a super zombie now with only a cricket bat and 6 shots and zero time to prepare.
And why do so many gamers CARE or pretend to care about what console is doing best or not doing the best?
Remember when games was just about enjoying shit? I do. It still is if you're not a moronic child.
If you ever find the answer to this, please let me know, it is beyond me.
I care about the health and support of the product because its continued presence, support, and direction on the market determines it value and use to me. I am sure there are people who are happy with with the PSPGo, Virtual Boy, that gaming phone I can't remember that opens weird but propiertary hardware for gaming comes with something of an investment issue.
And if I find that stuff I want keeps not coming for the console I feel cheated. With Wii not as much an issue. Its cheaper and very different. Not so much with WiiU and the games and issue that took me here was the success of Nintendo's console and its lack of support with other comparable consoles. Its got bad ports or no ports of games of other competitive devices and that is something to be concerned about for a $350 price tag or purchase of the product or accessing its value. IF the value isn't in the apparent technical specifications, something I wasn't as hung up on but has lead to disappointment and reflected in PERFORMANCE of the device at its job to devices of similar type (always relevant for a consumer good, we do compare apples and oranges they are both produce items priced differently and so have to determined what we wish of and from each). So I hope its in the more unmeasurable experiences offered by the design, services, and setup of the console. Or the community of gamers about it, that is another larger forwarded plus of it that I'm joing the Miiverse/nintendo online community and service.
Not even PC compares because the primary function of a PC I can buy off the shelf and turn gamable is as mini home office and internet connection device, likely for the whole family. There were even recent sales of them that were cheaper than the WiiU (minus a monitor and other things inheritable from previous computer ownership)
Besides I didn't come in here screaming about terraflops I mentioned games, community reception, negative prognosis by popular analysts and asked information to understand the full story. The defensive and deriding part of the responses did not reflect on this group well. I did appreciate what was educational, placed things in perspective, and actual answers to my questions and thoughts and concerns.
It tells you if the console you spent money on will stop having games on it
Or this in short.
If you are comparing the WiiU to the PSPGo, VirtualBoy and the N-Gage (I assume that's the one you meant) then you really aren't looking at this objectively.
Also you keep saying things like the stuff I bolded, but I'm really not sure where you are getting that viewpoint from. You seem to think it is inferior in it's technical capabilities and performance? Compared to what? The PS4? The current Gen stuff?
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... Yeah, I think I might even go for that, a buddy of mine's done ink designs before and his brother's pretty good with a needle, I think the lot of us could maybe even make it work!
Cool points if both of you get drunk, decide to do it in a tribal artistic style, then get creative...then post the results in this forum with a pic
My buddy doesn't drink actually, but that's usually not something that inhibits our mutual capacity for doing insane shit. I think he'd be gunning for something Sonic related though.
Part of my tattoo is an Atari joystick...
On the Wii U front, this week is cheap punch out isn't it? I wish we could get the full vc so I could buy super punch out at the same time...
Yay ZombiU death loops. You would think they'd respawn you before the 'spawn giant wave coming to kill you' trigger so you can get your stuff back first instead of fighting giant wave + your previous self as a super zombie now with only a cricket bat and 6 shots and zero time to prepare.
Just coming back from the supermarket I presume?
Yep. Might as well restart the next time I pick it up. I should be able to get back to where I was really quickly.
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ZombiU never has an actual "Game Over" no matter how badly you fucked yourself, you can always get your stuff back, the flares and molotovs are out there like candy, I carry 3 of each with me always and I'm constantly leaving them behind. The weapons will reappear all over the world, though not in their original locations. Just bait the zombies into attacking you one at a time, slam a door or two into their faces to spread them out a little.
Best thing in the game is kiting. If there's a giant horde, run away as fast as you can, then wait a little while and they should eventually deaggro, then pull one at a time, with some clever flashlight flickering. never give up!
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Used some coke reward points to get Best Buy reward points, got Darksiders 2 for $0.97
None of my local Best Buys had Darksiders 2 according to the lady at customer service that checked stock of local stores...so I got Target to price match Best Buy. :P
Well, if this Director's Cut has better endings and boss battles I might possibly consider it. But really, this title seems aimed mostly at the Nintendo-exclusive crowd.
I remember that Straight Right (The Mass Effect 3 port guys) were working on a port of a Square game for Wii U. The hot guess at the time was Deus Ex. So um, maybe?
See, here's the thing. Ports of old games coming to WiiU is ok. Throw in some neat tablet functionality or whatever, that's fine. Its still early-ish in the console's life, there's bound to be [i]new[/i] 3rd party releases. However, these older games should not be sixty goddamn bucks... Even NFS, which I bought, kinda pisses me off. Blah!
[i]Anyway[/i], any WiiU bros pick up NFS today? I'd be down for some MP races, though I don't have a headset. NNID is Dr.Skullnumbers.
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OK, yes, obvious joke, but I'm serious. At least the other Wii U ports were mostly of relatively recent titles that pretty much launched at launch. Human Revolution is about 2 years old by now. I have trouble comprehending how this came to be.
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Some people say they saw it in stores and the message just meant it wasn't in stores until today.
I've talked to my Target sales guy about three times, Monster Hunter IS going to be in Target today, at least here in Tucson.
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Nintendo hasn't had a good first year since....maybe the SNES. They'll have one or two solid games, but most of the releases will be mediocre to shit. Then they blow their load during year 2 and they continue trickling stuff from then on. It's not ideal, but Nintendo tends to play it safe to maintain a steady profit.
They have an advantage this time around in that they are making their online system very welcoming to indies and non-AAA developers. If they handle this well, they'll have a steady stream of exclusives throughout the system's life.
I can't say I'm happy with my Wii U purchase (expected the digital games to come out faster), but I have faith they'll right the ship over the year.
My concern is this seems to be happening in Japan. It makes sense, its where the brains of the outfit are.
The second part is something I am very concerned about. If the WiiU gets more and more a reputation of something that can't serve indie/digital game needs or is always third place for porting it makes me wonder what's going to come for it. The games that concerned me were decades old arcade ports. I understand there is likely a pipeline in place and a relationship to make it smoother to port to PS3 and 360. But I am concerned if the digital nonAAA games will avoid the WiiU. What is the online development of the product like? The community? How does it compare to others and what are its particular strengths or changes coming?
I love that the Wii U is getting the "Ultimate Edition" versions of so many games. Batman, Spider-Man, Darksiders 2, Need for Speed, and now Deus Ex. Nice to know I'm getting all the content in one place.
I never played Arkham Asylum and this is my first time playing Arkham City, but the Gamepad features are so well integrated into the game that I don't think I'd enjoy the game without them.
If you are comparing the WiiU to the PSPGo, VirtualBoy and the N-Gage (I assume that's the one you meant) then you really aren't looking at this objectively.
Also you keep saying things like the stuff I bolded, but I'm really not sure where you are getting that viewpoint from. You seem to think it is inferior in it's technical capabilities and performance? Compared to what? The PS4? The current Gen stuff?
Its had questions of its performance, particularly publically with the current gen ports having performance issues. ACIII, DSII, B:AA, Madden, etc.
Ah yes the N-Gage, thanks, I couldn't remember the name or find it with a quick google for gaming phone.
I don't think the WiiU is like that perse. but the idea only insecure fanboys can have concerns about the support, direction, and performance of consoles is undermined by there are consoles held in low consideration to the point their loss and flaws are relatively unquestioned and they're problems and lack of support turning into a further issue.
If you are comparing the WiiU to the PSPGo, VirtualBoy and the N-Gage (I assume that's the one you meant) then you really aren't looking at this objectively.
Also you keep saying things like the stuff I bolded, but I'm really not sure where you are getting that viewpoint from. You seem to think it is inferior in it's technical capabilities and performance? Compared to what? The PS4? The current Gen stuff?
Its had questions of its performance, particularly publically with the current gen ports having performance issues. ACIII, DSII, B:AA, Madden, etc.
Ah yes the N-Gage, thanks, I couldn't remember the name or find it with a quick google for gaming phone.
I don't think the WiiU is like that perse. but the idea only insecure fanboys can have concerns about the support, direction, and performance of consoles is undermined by there are consoles held in low consideration to the point their loss and flaws are relatively unquestioned and they're problems and lack of support turning into a further issue.
Again you are making some very odd claims.
Firstly I don't think anyone ever suggested that only "insecure fanboys" can have concerns about the console.
Secondly, as far as I have known Nintendo has always had pretty solid support for their consoles, so I'm not sure where this concern is coming from.
You do seem to be very "concerned" in general about the WiiU though, although from my perspective it's not really warranted given Nintendo's history.
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I really want Lego City and Need for Speed, but I'm gonna have to stick to my "At least half of MSRP" guns, especially since I just bought Batman and Darksiders over the last week.
I've never played a MH game, but its got a Dark souls vibe i might like...but i mostly play solo, not much online, and i hear that kinda hurts it. Lego looks fun but i hear its kinda short with really long load times. hard choice!
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Went to Target, and they didn't have Lego City or Monster Hunter.
OK, yes, obvious joke, but I'm serious. At least the other Wii U ports were mostly of relatively recent titles that pretty much launched at launch. Human Revolution is about 2 years old by now. I have trouble comprehending how this came to be.
Well, there's been rumblings about a HR 'sequel' that will be announced sometime soon-ish (E3?) called Human Defiance. Re-releasing an 'ultimate' version like this, while seeming like a 'wtf 2yr old port' thing, could just be a teaser, as it were, for the sequel. That's honestly the main reason I can see them doing this for.
I'll wait and see what is actually changed in this before I consider rebuying it.
DX:HR for WiiU, I didn't ask for this but I will take it! I already have the Augmented Edition on PC but man that game was good. A sequel would be amazing, as long as they don't outsource the bossfights again.
Downloading Monster Hunter now, hope some stores around here have Lego City in stock this week, looks like the WiiU is gonna get some use again.
Went to Target and they had Lego City and Monster Hunter (on an end cap) but not Need for Speed. They said that if I buy Lego City and Monster Hunter and come back tomorrow when they will (supposedly) have Need for Speed they'll re-ring it out and give me it for free!
Went to Target and they had Lego City and Monster Hunter (on an end cap) but not Need for Speed. They said that if I buy Lego City and Monster Hunter and come back tomorrow when they will (supposedly) have Need for Speed they'll re-ring it out and give me it for free!
That's great! Hopefully they'll honor that.
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They have an advantage this time around in that they are making their online system very welcoming to indies and non-AAA developers. If they handle this well, they'll have a steady stream of exclusives throughout the system's life.
I can't say I'm happy with my Wii U purchase (expected the digital games to come out faster), but I have faith they'll right the ship over the year.
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Nintendo needs to money-hat Bethesda and get a Fall Out exclusive. The WiiU pad as the pipboy just makes sense.
Or be lazy and money-hat a FO Collection for WiiU only. The PC versions will port over easily, and it will look better than the other consoles. Top it off by allowing console commands.
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If you are comparing the WiiU to the PSPGo, VirtualBoy and the N-Gage (I assume that's the one you meant) then you really aren't looking at this objectively.
Also you keep saying things like the stuff I bolded, but I'm really not sure where you are getting that viewpoint from. You seem to think it is inferior in it's technical capabilities and performance? Compared to what? The PS4? The current Gen stuff?
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Part of my tattoo is an Atari joystick...
On the Wii U front, this week is cheap punch out isn't it? I wish we could get the full vc so I could buy super punch out at the same time...
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Yep. Might as well restart the next time I pick it up. I should be able to get back to where I was really quickly.
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None of my local Best Buys had Darksiders 2 according to the lady at customer service that checked stock of local stores...so I got Target to price match Best Buy. :P
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Well, if this Director's Cut has better endings and boss battles I might possibly consider it. But really, this title seems aimed mostly at the Nintendo-exclusive crowd.
Whoa. You can get bestbuy points by drinking coke? Explain this madness, please.
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You motherfuckers.
Some people say they saw it in stores and the message just meant it wasn't in stores until today.
[i]Anyway[/i], any WiiU bros pick up NFS today? I'd be down for some MP races, though I don't have a headset. NNID is Dr.Skullnumbers.
My wife my kill me if I re-bought a game (I still owned) for 2-3x the price I paid for it originally though.
OK, yes, obvious joke, but I'm serious. At least the other Wii U ports were mostly of relatively recent titles that pretty much launched at launch. Human Revolution is about 2 years old by now. I have trouble comprehending how this came to be.
I've talked to my Target sales guy about three times, Monster Hunter IS going to be in Target today, at least here in Tucson.
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My concern is this seems to be happening in Japan. It makes sense, its where the brains of the outfit are.
The second part is something I am very concerned about. If the WiiU gets more and more a reputation of something that can't serve indie/digital game needs or is always third place for porting it makes me wonder what's going to come for it. The games that concerned me were decades old arcade ports. I understand there is likely a pipeline in place and a relationship to make it smoother to port to PS3 and 360. But I am concerned if the digital nonAAA games will avoid the WiiU. What is the online development of the product like? The community? How does it compare to others and what are its particular strengths or changes coming?
I love that the Wii U is getting the "Ultimate Edition" versions of so many games. Batman, Spider-Man, Darksiders 2, Need for Speed, and now Deus Ex. Nice to know I'm getting all the content in one place.
I never played Arkham Asylum and this is my first time playing Arkham City, but the Gamepad features are so well integrated into the game that I don't think I'd enjoy the game without them.
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Ah yes the N-Gage, thanks, I couldn't remember the name or find it with a quick google for gaming phone.
I don't think the WiiU is like that perse. but the idea only insecure fanboys can have concerns about the support, direction, and performance of consoles is undermined by there are consoles held in low consideration to the point their loss and flaws are relatively unquestioned and they're problems and lack of support turning into a further issue.
Also Phibbs got his at Target (as seen in the MH thread). He told me it was the last copy of the 3DS version, though.
Again you are making some very odd claims.
Firstly I don't think anyone ever suggested that only "insecure fanboys" can have concerns about the console.
Secondly, as far as I have known Nintendo has always had pretty solid support for their consoles, so I'm not sure where this concern is coming from.
You do seem to be very "concerned" in general about the WiiU though, although from my perspective it's not really warranted given Nintendo's history.
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e: looks like it, welp, going to Target on lunch.
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I've never played a MH game, but its got a Dark souls vibe i might like...but i mostly play solo, not much online, and i hear that kinda hurts it. Lego looks fun but i hear its kinda short with really long load times. hard choice!
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Well, there's been rumblings about a HR 'sequel' that will be announced sometime soon-ish (E3?) called Human Defiance. Re-releasing an 'ultimate' version like this, while seeming like a 'wtf 2yr old port' thing, could just be a teaser, as it were, for the sequel. That's honestly the main reason I can see them doing this for.
I'll wait and see what is actually changed in this before I consider rebuying it.
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Downloading Monster Hunter now, hope some stores around here have Lego City in stock this week, looks like the WiiU is gonna get some use again.
That's great! Hopefully they'll honor that.
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