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[GW2] Bi-weekly updates to living story continue. Lots of good stuff coming!

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    Cobalt60Cobalt60 regular Registered User regular
    Anything that gets people out of constantly grinding CoF p.1 and into any of the other dungeons is a Good Move.

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    VivixenneVivixenne Remember your training, and we'll get through this just fine. Registered User regular
    I might try to log in today for a little bit and see how my knee holds up. But yes the surgery is over and I've been home for two days doped up on painkillers woo!

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    FreiFrei A French Prometheus Unbound DeadwoodRegistered User regular
    congrats! gaming on painkillers is so much more fun.

    Are you the magic man?
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    Kai_SanKai_San Commonly known as Klineshrike! Registered User regular
    Looking like tonight marks the night I take a pretty decent haiatus.

    Might not be on much for a few weeks or months. Have fun yo.

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    mojojoeomojojoeo A block off the park, living the dream.Registered User regular
    fRIDAY.

    Doubly You Veee Double YOU.

    come and get your glory when partys form around 845 est. Its the day after my birthday and all i want is Blood.

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    WolveSightWolveSight Registered User regular
    mojojoeo wrote: »
    fRIDAY.

    Doubly You Veee Double YOU.

    come and get your glory when partys form around 845 est. Its the day after my birthday and all i want is Blood.

    hah, there was a reason I knew I liked you, mojo. Mine was yesterday too.

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    mojojoeomojojoeo A block off the park, living the dream.Registered User regular
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Av-RvLKiCELHdGNDU3pSOUR3U1RxbkdIYkdVc3UxV2c&usp=sharing


    Powerful bloods and icey runes.... thats all thats left. Im coming legendary sword. Ima coming for you.

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    Comrade1809Comrade1809 Registered User regular
    edited August 2013
    Hi, relatively new to GW2 and barely got a level 40 thief. I've been trucking it along solo but curious about going on dungeon raids. Since I don't have a guild, is there a dungeon group finder tool in game that is usable by lurkers such as myself?

    Also according to the OP, I should have run into two story mode dungeons: Ascalonian Catacombs 30 (35) and
    Caudecus's Manor 40 (45). However, that has not happened yet. Any advice is appreciated.

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    GeodGeod swim, swim, hungryRegistered User regular
    Hi, relatively new to GW2 and barely got a level 40 thief. I've been trucking it along solo but curious about going on dungeon raids. Since I don't have a guild, is there a dungeon group finder tool in game that is usable by lurkers such as myself?

    Also according to the OP, I should have run into two story mode dungeons: Ascalonian Catacombs 30 (35) and
    Caudecus's Manor 40 (45). However, that has not happened yet. Any advice is appreciated.

    When you hit certain levels, like level 30, you should get in game mail from your race's mentor that directs you to the dungeons. You won't run into the dungeons yourself by just doing the personal story - there's like two concurrent storylines going on, one that deals with Zhaitan through the personal story and the other that deals with Destiny's Edge through the dungeons (story paths).

    http://gw2lfg.com is what most people use to find pug dungeon groups. It's great and works well. An in-game LFG will be coming sometime this year.

    If you are looking to join a guild, you're welcome to join NICE :) Running around solo is dreadfully mind numbing after awhile.

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    naengwennaengwen Registered User regular
    edited August 2013
    I feel like I'm about to have a heart attack. Crunch time has never been so... crunchy.

    Good news is, I've really earned this vacation I'm about to take off on. Bad news is, I dunno what Internet availability is gonna be like next week. If I'm conspicuously absent, y'all will know why. (Sorry Brokk, no more story dungeons till next Sunday)

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    GeodGeod swim, swim, hungryRegistered User regular
    Some general guild event reminders:

    Guild Lottery ends Saturday 7pm PST
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aj7W7InOt5dOdGRGd0ctS1V3dXBfdk5BMTdLclE5cGc#gid=6

    Saturday at 6pm PST (9pm EST) I'll be hosting a guild event. That's an hour before guild missions. It will be a zone scavenger hunt. I'll ask 10 questions with each question worth 1g each. The question's answers will be somewhere in the zone that I select. The final 10th question, will also have a prize of a Mini Snow Leopard.

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    PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    edited August 2013
    Cute. The expected value of playing the guild lottery is independent of the total entries.

    Also, I've apparently been playing it optimally, without knowing.

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    GeodGeod swim, swim, hungryRegistered User regular
    Polaritie wrote: »
    Cute. The expected value of playing the guild lottery is independent of the total entries.

    Also, I've apparently been playing it optimally, without knowing.

    Yeah, we've mentioned it before. 50/50 lottery. The other half goes to fund other events (like the scavenger hunt I'm doing tomorrow) and the sPvP Server. If people want to change how it's handled, just let us know.

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    PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    edited August 2013
    Geod wrote: »
    Polaritie wrote: »
    Cute. The expected value of playing the guild lottery is independent of the total entries.

    Also, I've apparently been playing it optimally, without knowing.

    Yeah, we've mentioned it before. 50/50 lottery. The other half goes to fund other events (like the scavenger hunt I'm doing tomorrow) and the sPvP Server. If people want to change how it's handled, just let us know.

    I have no issue with how its handled, I'm just amused that the amount of money I can expect to win is the same whether there are 10 entries or 100.

    It's also positive. I WISH I could get odds like these at a casino.

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    Comrade1809Comrade1809 Registered User regular
    Follow-up question about story dungeons. I'm assuming I need more than just myself to get them done? If so, how does one go about it?

    EVE: TrueAnger

    “The trouble with Communism is the Communists, just as the trouble with Christianity is the Christians.”
    ― H.L. Mencken

    “This Snow Crash thing--is it a virus, a drug, or a religion?”
    Juanita shrugs. “What's the difference?”
    ― Neal Stephenson, Snow Crash
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    Who-PsydWho-Psyd Registered User regular

    Polaritie wrote: »
    Geod wrote: »
    Polaritie wrote: »
    Cute. The expected value of playing the guild lottery is independent of the total entries.

    Also, I've apparently been playing it optimally, without knowing.

    Yeah, we've mentioned it before. 50/50 lottery. The other half goes to fund other events (like the scavenger hunt I'm doing tomorrow) and the sPvP Server. If people want to change how it's handled, just let us know.

    I have no issue with how its handled, I'm just amused that the amount of money I can expect to win is the same whether there are 10 entries or 100.

    It's also positive. I WISH I could get odds like these at a casino.

    What math are you doing? At 10 Entries the winner gets 5 Gold, at 100 Entries the Winner gets 50 Gold.

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    EnigEnig a.k.a. Ansatz Registered User regular
    Follow-up question about story dungeons. I'm assuming I need more than just myself to get them done? If so, how does one go about it?

    Like Geod said, http://www.gw2lfg.com/ is an awesome website (especially while we wait for them to get the in-game LFG system up and running). You can filter for what you are interested in, then send an invite request to the party in-game. Because parties are cross-server, it is usually not too hard to find a group. Story modes will take longer to get started though as most people only run them once.

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    reVersereVerse Attack and Dethrone God Registered User regular
    http://www.gw2lfg.com/ is an abomination that should not exist.

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    FreiFrei A French Prometheus Unbound DeadwoodRegistered User regular
    edited August 2013
    reVerse wrote: »
    http://www.gw2lfg.com/ is an abomination that should not exist.

    [Group Event] Destroy the Bad Opinion Elemental that is raging through the GW2 thread!

    Frei on
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    Comrade1809Comrade1809 Registered User regular
    Haha, thanks guys

    EVE: TrueAnger

    “The trouble with Communism is the Communists, just as the trouble with Christianity is the Christians.”
    ― H.L. Mencken

    “This Snow Crash thing--is it a virus, a drug, or a religion?”
    Juanita shrugs. “What's the difference?”
    ― Neal Stephenson, Snow Crash
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    AvynteAvynte Registered User regular
    Frei wrote: »
    reVerse wrote: »
    http://www.gw2lfg.com/ is an abomination that should not exist.

    [Group Event] Destroy the Bad Opinion Elemental that is raging through the GW2 thread!

    The fact the game launched without a viable lfg tool is an abomination. I will concede its an argument that's been rehashed many times over though.

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    FreiFrei A French Prometheus Unbound DeadwoodRegistered User regular
    You misunderstand. I'm not saying a dungeon finder would be bad. I'd fucking love a dungeon finder.

    reverse said gw2lfg is an abomination. It is not. It is very helpful due to the lack of dungeon finder in game.

    Are you the magic man?
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    AvynteAvynte Registered User regular
    I guess I just figured the abomination comment was a sarcastic bash on Anet and less on the quality of gw2lfg. interpretations! :p

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    FreiFrei A French Prometheus Unbound DeadwoodRegistered User regular
    I considered that, too, but it's a weird way of insinuating that, if so. OH WELL.

    Are you the magic man?
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    Cobalt60Cobalt60 regular Registered User regular
    Thought you guys would like to know that Jade Quarry currently holds everything except for 2 supply camps. FA and Maguuma hold one each.

    GG semi-random matchups.

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    DraygoDraygo Registered User regular
    ^ still better than the old system though. During your primetime you should be able to take back keeps, and still chew rating away from JQ.

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    amnesiasoftamnesiasoft Thick Creamy Furry Registered User regular
    edited August 2013
    Who-Psyd wrote: »
    Polaritie wrote: »
    Geod wrote: »
    Polaritie wrote: »
    Cute. The expected value of playing the guild lottery is independent of the total entries.

    Also, I've apparently been playing it optimally, without knowing.

    Yeah, we've mentioned it before. 50/50 lottery. The other half goes to fund other events (like the scavenger hunt I'm doing tomorrow) and the sPvP Server. If people want to change how it's handled, just let us know.

    I have no issue with how its handled, I'm just amused that the amount of money I can expect to win is the same whether there are 10 entries or 100.

    It's also positive. I WISH I could get odds like these at a casino.

    What math are you doing? At 10 Entries the winner gets 5 Gold, at 100 Entries the Winner gets 50 Gold.
    Uh, correct math? For 10 entries winning 5 gold the expected value is 1/10 * 5, or 0.5. For 100 entries winning 50 gold, the expected value is 1/100 * 50, or 0.5.

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    naengwennaengwen Registered User regular
    I believe this may be a conflict of semantics regarding "the amount of money I can expect to win is the same." It's not that he will win the same amount of cash, but when the "expected" is thrown in there the context and the solution change.

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    PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    naengwen wrote: »
    I believe this may be a conflict of semantics regarding "the amount of money I can expect to win is the same." It's not that he will win the same amount of cash, but when the "expected" is thrown in there the context and the solution change.

    Expected value is a term of art, so... yeah.

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    YougottawannaYougottawanna Registered User regular
    JQ is gonna win the overnight, no way around that, just try to win PPT during NA time

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    HamHamJHamHamJ Registered User regular
    edited August 2013
    I have a Necro for WuvWuv, and here's the build I'm running.

    However, while it is great for solo play (being able to take supply camps solo is pretty good imho) it's not that great on wuvwuv night. Nothing stays alive long enough for the condition dps to really matter, zerg fights are too fast and chaotic for getting epidemic set up and all that...

    So what should I change for wuvwuv night?

    1) I would rather not change equipment.
    2) I definitely don't want to have to adjust trait points each time. But switching major traits is fine.
    3) Utilities are obviously the easiest to change.

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    mccartmccart Registered User regular
    When I go into wuv intending to play with a group I always make sure to put 30 points in soul-reaping for Foot in the Grave. That 3 seconds of stability is absolutely vital when zergs clash and you can't always count on getting stability from someone else. I know you said you didn't want to adjust your traits but every time I go into wuv without that trait I always find myself porting out to get it.

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    Kai_SanKai_San Commonly known as Klineshrike! Registered User regular
    The fact you can get a 3 or more sec stability on 7 (or 8, forget what it is now) CD is just plain mean.

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    programjunkieprogramjunkie Registered User regular
    Can I get a guild reinvite?

    Wicked Demiurge.3107

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    GeodGeod swim, swim, hungryRegistered User regular
    Can I get a guild reinvite?

    Wicked Demiurge.3107

    Sent.

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    -Loki--Loki- Don't pee in my mouth and tell me it's raining. Registered User regular
    The last few days I got sick of getting garbage out of the Mystic Forge and just started salvaging rares for ectos.

    I now have 5g worth of ectos when I probably would have gotten, still, garbage from the Mystic Forge.

    Why did I waste so many rares in the fucking Mystic Forge?

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    Cobalt60Cobalt60 regular Registered User regular
    Who-Psyd wrote: »
    Polaritie wrote: »
    Geod wrote: »
    Polaritie wrote: »
    Cute. The expected value of playing the guild lottery is independent of the total entries.

    Also, I've apparently been playing it optimally, without knowing.

    Yeah, we've mentioned it before. 50/50 lottery. The other half goes to fund other events (like the scavenger hunt I'm doing tomorrow) and the sPvP Server. If people want to change how it's handled, just let us know.

    I have no issue with how its handled, I'm just amused that the amount of money I can expect to win is the same whether there are 10 entries or 100.

    It's also positive. I WISH I could get odds like these at a casino.

    What math are you doing? At 10 Entries the winner gets 5 Gold, at 100 Entries the Winner gets 50 Gold.
    Uh, correct math? For 10 entries winning 5 gold the expected value is 1/10 * 5, or 0.5. For 100 entries winning 50 gold, the expected value is 1/100 * 50, or 0.5.

    UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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    mojojoeomojojoeo A block off the park, living the dream.Registered User regular
    45 gold to gloooory. Come on rng.

    2 exos in a day and I want more.

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    GeodGeod swim, swim, hungryRegistered User regular
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aj7W7InOt5dOdGRGd0ctS1V3dXBfdk5BMTdLclE5cGc#gid=6

    Geth roll 1d59 for guild lottery

    guild lottery:
    1d59 32 [1d59=32]

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    KylindraKylindra Registered User regular
    Cobalt60 wrote: »
    Uh, correct math? For 10 entries winning 5 gold the expected value is 1/10 * 5, or 0.5. For 100 entries winning 50 gold, the expected value is 1/100 * 50, or 0.5.

    UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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    This is correct. Discounting for a minute any "bonus" thrown in (usually 5 gold), the expected value of buying a ticket in a lottery where a winner is guaranteed to be chosen is the price of the ticket, minus the percentage house take. In our case, 50%, so half a gold is the expected value of the results of buying a lottery ticket.

    "Expected value" is a statistical term that is used to describe the weighted average of all possible outcomes in a situation involving probability.

    For instance, let's say you have a 60% chance of being given $100 for your birthday (if your grandparents remember to send it) and a 40% chance of receiving $0 (If they forget). The expected value of your birthday gift is ($100 * 60% + $0 * 40%) = $60.

    In our lottery, if there are 10 tickets purchased and the pot is 5 gold, each ticket gives you a 1/10 chance of winning 5 gold, and a 9/10 chance of winning 0 gold.

    So the expected value of lottery ticket in that case is (5 gold * 1/10 + 0 gold * 9/10) = .5 gold

    Now look at the case where there are 100 entries and a pot of 50 gold:

    (50 gold * 1/50 + 0 gold * 49/50) = .5 gold

    So yes, the expected value of a ticket is the same regardless of the size of the pot.

    The confusion here is some people were discussing expected value and some were discussing pot size, without realizing that "expected value" means something in particular in statistics.


    However, your odds of winning and your happiness if you do win are entirely dependent on the number of entries. :)




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