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[League of Legends] Big Zac Attack

MiniwolfMiniwolf Probably somewhere sniffing somethingRegistered User regular
edited April 2013 in Games and Technology
OP - The Basics
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The Basics
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League of Legends (popularly known as LoL) is a Multiplayer Online Battle Arena (MOBA) game created by Riot Games.


You play as a summoner that controls a champion and takes them into battle with and against other summoners and their respective champions. During games, your champion will level up, get gold for better equipment and hopefully destroy the enemy nexus. Outside of games, your summoner level will rise. This will unlock new runes to enhance champion stats, bestow mastery points for further champion customization and goodies like avatars. At max level you can then compete in ranked matches and/or judge player behavior in what is called the Tribunal.

New Player Guide

1. Make an account: NA EU (West) EU (Nordic & East)
It is worth noting that referring new players has perks, so I would ask for a referral link in the thread rather than a vanilla account.

2. Download the client: Right here
The official Mac client is in beta - download it today!

3. Play the tutorials! New User Guide
The game can be a bit overwhelming, and I highly suggest you play the tutorials OR find someone willing to do a few vs. AI games with you.

4. Join the "Penny Arcade" Chat Channel to find helpful people and people to escape solo queue with! Click the little double speech bubble looking thing at the bottom right of your screen. Click the + speech bubble right above it. Type in "Penny Arcade" and introduce yourself. Not everyone you see in the thread will be there, as not everyone plays on the same server. You can ask these people how to play champions, we pretty much have someone who plays each champion.

5. Play vs. People
Do it, damn you. As said above, the AI is not going to give you the legitimate LoL experience. You don't want to hit your 20s solely from bot matches.

6. Get yer free champs.
Subscribe to Riot's Youtube and get a free Alistar skin! Includes the champion! Free Tristana if you're into the Facebook thing. Promo skins always include the champion if you never bought it.

The Dos and Don'ts of LoL

Meta Stuff
1. Don't buy champions randomly!
LoL has two currencies: Riot Points (RP), which are bought with real money, and Influence Points (IP) which are earned solely by playing games. Champions can be bought with both, but every week there will be ten free champions to play with. Play these champs instead. Get a feel for each type of champion and see which you find more fun. It's far better to do this as opposed to buying a champ randomly and ultimately being unhappy with it. Also, (it's rumored) you can get ONE refund opportunity for (I believe I read) up to 3 RP purchases. After that, it's your own fault for spending RP.

2. Don't buy Tier 2 Runes.
They are pretty much a waste of IP. Buy Tier 1 and save up for Tier 3. Or, if you're baller like Hargaad, don't even buy Tier 1. Wait to hit level 30, then buy all the Tier 3 runes you need.

3. Do queue with friends.
Playing with randoms is a crapshoot, and playing with a Taric or two can put the odds in your favor. Play complementary champs and request feedback on how you did in each game (even if you won). Likewise, you can offer advice to others you saw having trouble in a polite manner (because if you aren't polite, you're likely to get flamed).

4. Do learn the champions
When a new rotation occurs, it is wise to play a few games with each champ. Knowing what each champ is capable of will be useful even if you hate how they play and never intend on using them. For example, Karthus has a skill that does damage to every enemy champion, regardless of location! If you know this, then you can be a jerk and take Soraka.

5. Do read guides.
There are multiple ways to play a champion. This combination of skills, runes, masteries and items is called a "build" and are the general strategies for any champion. The recommended items in the game store are not always accurate, and the order you level skills can have a big impact on how the early stages of the game play out. Sites like Mobafire and Solomid offer builds for just about every champion. It's cookie-cutter, but a great foundation for new people. Once you learn the ins and outs, you can tweak a build to better serve your playstyles or as a reaction to enemy or ally players.

6. Do be polite and do report
Sometimes people will suck or do shit wrong. It's a game, so try to keep that in mind when things get a little unhinged. If you insult or yell at people, even if they DID do something wrong, you're likely going to get that person defensive and things break down. Instead of focusing on the game, you focus on hurling insults at each. Stay calm, and politely offer advice when needed. And yet, people are jerks. It happens. Simply /mute them and quietly report them after the game. Taking their bait is probably what they want you to do. Do not give them the satisfaction! Keep your cool.

7. Buy skins
Having a skin for a character is a great way to say "Hey I'm fucking awesome with this champion so get the fuck out of my way." If your team is using more skins than your enemy team, you basically have already won. If you're playing as , you've won the awesome award.

Game Stuff
1. Do not be aggressive
There will be a serious urge to want to kill enemy champs. Resist! Death is an all-around loss: your opponents get more cash and experience, you miss out on experience and your lane risks getting pushed. If you set-up a kill and fail, do not continue chasing. In many cases, you will just die to a tower or get ganked. While later on you will learn when to take risks, early in your career it's best to be less aggressive and just let the other guy get away.

2. Do not focus on KDR
Your kill-death-ratio is not the end-all of your value. It is possible to lose despite having a serious kill advantage over the enemy team! Certain champions, once getting the right items, can be unstoppable murder machines. Even if you do kill them a lot, if they reach this threshold, it's possible for a dramatic reversal to occur. It is far more important to support your team's objectives: push towers, protect your own towers from being pushed and keep your team informed of enemy activity. It is far better to have a modest KDR and win, than be the team killer and lose.

3. Do watch the minimap and your enemy
Enemy locations are important! In your low-level games you will likely have two champs tops lane, one mid and two bottom (in later level games, one from top will be off "jungling," so top will have just one champ). If a player in YOUR lane is missing, let the team know. The player might just be heading back to base to buy items, or they could be trying to jump your friend in another lane. And mention when they came back to your lane! But this doesn't mean you should rely wholly on team recon. Watch the minimap yourself for enemy locations in other lanes whenever you can. People aren't perfect, and sometimes that warning comes a bit too late. Another set of eyes is always useful.

4. Do buy wards.
Wards are items that grant you vision of an area for 180 seconds. They are, without a doubt, one of the best purchases you will make. You can plop them along the river and have advance warning of ganks. They'll grant you vision of the brush. They'll alert you of enemy attempts on big-reward neutral monsters like the dragon or baron. If you attack them in the middle of something like that, you could mob up their entire team. Or maybe you are aware of a gank attempt on you. You could alert a nearby friend, bait the ganker in and turn the tables. Buy wards. BUY. WARDS.

5. Do buy wards.
Wards are items that grant you vision of an area for 180 seconds. They are, without a doubt, one of the best purchases you will make. You can plop them along the river and have advance warning of ganks. They'll grant you vision of the brush. They'll alert you of enemy attempts on big reward neutral monsters like the dragon or baron. If you attack them in the middle of something like that, you could mob up their entire team. Or maybe you are aware of a gank attempt on you. You could alert a nearby friend, bait the ganker in and turn the tables. Buy wards. BUY. WARDS. Yes, I posted this twice. It is that important.

6. Do something.
So you just wiped the enemy team out. Hooray! But...what are you doing now? Did you just go back to your respective lanes and farm? Incorrect! You now have precious map control, and should be taking advantage of it. Gather up as a team and take out a tower. Head to the dragon and get a clean kill. Steal enemy creeps (especially their blue and red buffs). You can always check the status of both teams by pressing tab. If multiple enemies are waiting on respawn, then you need to press that advantage.

7. Don't just wait around all day when you're in a position to win.
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8. Do buy wards.
Seriously, kids. If Hargaad can do it, so can you. I know you have 75 gold just laying around sometimes. Don't feed us with your bullshit of, "But I need to save for x item!" No! Fuck you, and your high horse. If you don't buy wards, and you die a lot, nobody on your team is going to be able to save you from a beefed up (whatever) lane. Consequences will never be the same!

Meet the Team

Like any group activity, stuff is usually broken down into roles. It's worth noting that champions don't always fit neatly in categories. A champion's role in the team may depend on what build has been chosen, and sometimes you may fill several roles depending on the group composition. When picking champions, it's a good idea to see what people are doing and fill in any holes.

1. The Carry: If your team is a car, then the carry is the engine. It's what makes the team function. The carry, when doing its job, will be able to easily destroy the whole team. But, just like an engine is useless without any other parts of your car, the carry relies on its team to get the gold necessary to buy the items needed to kill swathes of enemies. Early on, carries tend to be more vulnerable and weaker than other champs. LOTS of people pick carry in random, because it's the star character that generally gets all the kills. One of the reasons Caitlyn is so great is that she can carry a team since her AS ratios are amazing and she can easily carry and dominate fools.

2. The Tank: Following the car metaphor, the tank is your steering. It'll guide the team into battle, and in many cases will be the one starting the fights. Tanks are there to absorb damage and lock down the most dangerous champions on the enemy team so you can position yourselves to win the fight. Some tanks do this with CC, whereas other tanks have some damage and will soften up the enemy team instead. Tanks still tend to need the rest of their team to back them up. Rammus is probably the most boss at doing all of this, and with zazz.

3. The Support: I guess support are your tires or something? Maybe the AC. Either, support help the team out with buffs and generally shields or healing. Healers tend to assist the carry by allowing the carry to stay in the lane longer through said healing or shields. Unlike, well, just about everyone else, Support don't rely so much on gear and thus will purposefully AVOID getting last hits so that their lane partner can farm gold faster. Because of their reduced need of gold, support should also be buying and placing wards when needed. It's worth noting that EVERYONE should generally buy wards, but as a support you can afford to take the financial hit. FEW people pick support in random due to how hard it is to influence games. You have to be very proactive to make up for bad teammates as a carry. Veigar commonly supports the enemy team to their graves.

4. The Jungler: Jungling is a more advanced concept, and you won't see it until higher summoner levels. This is due to runes and masteries allowing for more efficient jungling. It is still possible on a few champs, even at Summoner Level 1, but very uncommon. As the name implies, the jungler sits in the jungle and kills neutral creeps. This benefits your team by creating a second solo lane (top lane), resulting in more experience and gold for your team as a whole. Once the jungler hits a certain gear/level point, they look for opportunities to gank enemies. This is generally done via strong CC abilities, such as Warwick's ultimate or Nunu's slow coupled with his speed buff. Skills such as these will enable the jungler's teammate in that lane to easily assist with the kill. When not ganking, the jungler will return to the jungle regularly to keep up in terms of gold and experience. Due to their roaming, the jungler has plenty of opportunities to place wards for its teammates.

This is a very simple guide! There are other roles in teams, but this is a rough outline of the basics. Roles can easily overlap, and a champion can fill more than one role! Experiment and see what works and what doesn't.


Useful Stuff

Websites!
http://www.solomid.net/ - A more advanced and polished version of Mobafire. Solomid offers intricate guides on champs that've been tried and tested by the community. Best for more advanced players of lvl 20+
http://www.lolking.net/ - A site for looking at skins as their splash art can be different from what they look like in game. Its also good for looking up summoners.
http://www.leagueoflegends.com - The standard LoL website! Info on the game can be found here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qggKB98It0Q - The basics of laning and last hitting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kxGQ3gWdrM - Shurelya's guide on zoning!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVtmV0FzW_0 SivHDs guide to never raging again.
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsVUL5xGFvg2vO787daxpJFAAcxpr5vE8 Saintvicious Jungle guides.

Stuff You Should Know
-Yes, a promo skin will unlock that champion for free.
-Buy Wards
-Buy Wards
-When in doubt, take Exhaust/Flash


List of helpful LoL terminology.

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  • MalkorMalkor Registered User regular
    I just played a game where Lux seemed to have it out for me.

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  • MiniwolfMiniwolf Probably somewhere sniffing somethingRegistered User regular
    edited March 2013
    #3

    I suck and forgot to reserve a post for contests

    So this post is reserved for contests.

    Current Contests

    Dread Pirate Arthurthnot's Contest - Last entry 30th March 2013. - The winner will be announced on whatever date they feel like it.
    THE NEW LEAGUE OF LEGENDS CONTEST BY DREAD PIRATE ARBUTHNOT

    FOR A PRIZE OF $25 in RP

    SECOND PLACE gets $10 in RP

    Your task is simple. You are granted the opportunity to take a team onto the fields of justice (or the crystal scar) on the world stage of League of Legends. You must assemble a dream team from Penny Arcaders.

    Simply select who you wish to be on your team for each role with an explanation of why. This means top, jungle, mid, adc, and support, with you being in one of these roles.

    You can also feel free to pick a coach, your sponsors, your team name, and so forth. Points for friendliness and creativity!

    To enter the contest, you must @ me. Every single contest we have problems with this so I am going to lay it out again. to @ me, you must go @ " Dread Pirate Arbuthnot ". No spaces. It'll show up like this. @Dread Pirate Arbuthnot

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  • sw0rdfishsw0rdfish Registered User regular
    That makes Malkor a Combo Breaker!!!!!

    I'll show myself out....

  • A-PuckA-Puck Registered User regular
    Malkor wrote: »
    I just played a game where Lux seemed to have it out for me.

    I... I have been known to do that from time to time. Just declare one person my mortal enemy and spend the rest of the game going after them. I'm usually on Singed when I do though.

    Soon... soon I will install you, my precious.
  • MiniwolfMiniwolf Probably somewhere sniffing somethingRegistered User regular
    edited March 2013
    http://imgur.com/a/e3T2x

    An album of the new ARAM

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  • A-PuckA-Puck Registered User regular
    And thanks for the new thread, Wolfmini

    Soon... soon I will install you, my precious.
  • surrealitychecksurrealitycheck lonely, but not unloved dreaming of faulty keys and latchesRegistered User regular
    Roz wrote: »
    Is Iceborn Guantlet really that bad on Ryze?

    iceborn gauntlet is straight up better than frozen heart if you dont need the def or cdr. more mana, more ap + a snare on ryze is always prety trolfaes

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  • RozRoz Boss of InternetRegistered User regular
    edited March 2013
    [quote] actually strongly dislike mobo boots on anyone who's not a roaming assassin like talon, eve, kha, whatever. They're pricey as fuck and provide absolutely zero stats once you're [i]in[/i] a fight. Picking them up early makes you much weaker if you end up in a 2v2 counterjungle situation or early brawl around dragon. I never take them on my junglers anymore, especially since all the good junglers right now have built in mobility. Vi, J4, Xin, Hec, Shaco, Voli, Noc to an extent. I'll usually pick up treads or tabi situationally or even berserkers on noc. [/quote]


    I would tend to agree with you. I'm rarely a fan of them, but I did have a game yesterday where the opposing Volibear got a kill early on Nocturne, rushed mobility boots and was basically free roaming the map scoring kills. he sprinted into bot lane and it impossible for our support to get away from him becuase she hadn't even bought boots yet.

    So while I don't like them in general, I do think they have situational applications.

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  • CyrenicCyrenic Registered User regular
    edited March 2013
    Reposting my comment from the end of the last thread, since the discussion is ongoing:
    JAEF wrote: »
    I actually strongly dislike mobo boots on anyone who's not a roaming assassin like talon, eve, kha, whatever. They're pricey as fuck and provide absolutely zero stats once you're in a fight. Picking them up early makes you much weaker if you end up in a 2v2 counterjungle situation or early brawl around dragon. I never take them on my junglers anymore, especially since all the good junglers right now have built in mobility. Vi, J4, Xin, Hec, Shaco, Voli, Noc to an extent. I'll usually pick up treads or tabi situationally or even berserkers on noc.

    I've been loving mobo boots on jungle cho. Probably a Silver ELO thing, but just being able to make it to fights is a big concern for me. Plus they let me get into range for a rupture or silence quicker when I'm starting a gank.

    And like the example Roz posted, when I rush mobo boots on a jungler it makes me feel like I have insane lane presence.

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  • RozRoz Boss of InternetRegistered User regular
    Roz wrote: »
    Is Iceborn Guantlet really that bad on Ryze?

    iceborn gauntlet is straight up better than frozen heart if you dont need the def or cdr. more mana, more ap + a snare on ryze is always prety trolfaes

    I think you understand :) Blue mage gotta stack the blue items!

  • StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    You know, it wouldn't kill you to update that OP from time to time. Shit like THE MAC CLIENT HAS BEEN DISCONTINUED is starting to really betray its 2011 origins.

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  • JAEFJAEF Unstoppably Bald Registered User regular
    edited March 2013
    Cyrenic wrote: »
    JAEF wrote: »
    I actually strongly dislike mobo boots on anyone who's not a roaming assassin like talon, eve, kha, whatever. They're pricey as fuck and provide absolutely zero stats once you're in a fight. Picking them up early makes you much weaker if you end up in a 2v2 counterjungle situation or early brawl around dragon. I never take them on my junglers anymore, especially since all the good junglers right now have built in mobility. Vi, J4, Xin, Hec, Shaco, Voli, Noc to an extent. I'll usually pick up treads or tabi situationally or even berserkers on noc.

    I've been loving mobo boots on jungle cho. Probably a Silver ELO thing, but just being able to make it to fights is a big concern for me. Plus they let me get into range for a rupture or silence quicker when I'm starting a gank.
    Cho is one of the few junglers I'm less hesitant to buy them on. I'm not saying never get them, just be aware there's a huge hidden cost for picking them up. If you can't convert some gold off the mobo boots they're gonna really hurt you later if the enemy is forcing fights.
    wazilla wrote: »
    JAEF wrote: »
    I actually strongly dislike mobo boots on anyone who's not a roaming assassin like talon, eve, kha, whatever. They're pricey as fuck and provide absolutely zero stats once you're in a fight. Picking them up early makes you much weaker if you end up in a 2v2 counterjungle situation or early brawl around dragon. I never take them on my junglers anymore, especially since all the good junglers right now have built in mobility. Vi, J4, Xin, Hec, Shaco, Voli, Noc to an extent. I'll usually pick up treads or tabi situationally or even berserkers on noc.

    If, theoretically, 2 lanes are losing pretty hard... should I just pick one to focus on and abandon the other? I imagine this isn't a problem high ELO junglers have to deal with often.
    It absolutely is. Sometimes games are just stomps. 3-15 twelve minutes in. It happens. Ganking is really game dependent. Early game I tend to focus mid and top to try to snowball them early. If a lane dies 1v1 or to a gank before I can help them out usually I'll try and soak if that lane is shoving to get a level/gold advantage. Soaking is actually hugely important as the jungle is pretty shit gold and experience in general. Always gank where there's an opportunity, so:
    • Is the lane warded? If your lanes are nice enough to give you information about where and how they're warded, use that. A top lane who's only warded river probably won't be ready for or expect a lane gank. If bot's lane has overstayed their welcome and all their wards have run out, punish it.
    • Can you actually secure a kill or force a flash? If I have say, a xin toplane versus a singed and he's already losing.. there's no fucking way we're ever getting a kill on singed without mid helping. Leave him to farm. Did you already gank a solo lane and burn their flash or the lane told you they have no flash? Gank! If you can gapclose even when they have vision they can't get away.
    • Are they pushed up? Even with wards, if the enemy is being aggressive enough to push up you can circle around and force a fight very easily. Punish this whenever you can BUT don't force your lanes to chase away from tower if they'll lose a huge creepwave. If there are 8+ creeps that are going to die under tower while you chase to maybe do something possibly, don't. Pressure the enemy away so your lane can farm safely under tower but don't force your lane to engage if you're not certain of a kill.
    • Focus on objective control. Did your mid lane just die? Is your bot low and under tower? If you go top and the enemy's not retarded, they'll do dragon for free. I'll trade a top lane death for dragon any day of the week.
    • Even if you're not ganking help out your lanes. Jungler wards are manna from heaven for a lane that's behind and struggling to itemize themselves or too stupid to ward. Don't let them feed even more, give your team vision so they can avoid dying further or maybe stay that extra few waves and pressure tower.
    • Is your smite up? Unless a lane is immediately gankable or needs help I'll always path through a camp to quick-clear with the smite.

    And for godsakes if you get a gank off and have a big creepwave stay there and shit all over the enemy's tower.

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  • MiniwolfMiniwolf Probably somewhere sniffing somethingRegistered User regular
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    You know, it wouldn't kill you to update that OP from time to time. Shit like THE MAC CLIENT HAS BEEN DISCONTINUED is starting to really betray its 2011 origins.

    Speaking of. I am going through it now and updating it :D

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  • RozRoz Boss of InternetRegistered User regular
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    You know, it wouldn't kill you to update that OP from time to time. Shit like THE MAC CLIENT HAS BEEN DISCONTINUED is starting to really betray its 2011 origins.


    I had a brand new OP I'd been working on for about a month now, it's just a shame I'm always at work when we hit the cap. :(

  • KorrorKorror Registered User regular
    Cyrenic wrote: »
    Reposting my comment from the end of the last thread, since the discussion is ongoing:
    JAEF wrote: »
    I actually strongly dislike mobo boots on anyone who's not a roaming assassin like talon, eve, kha, whatever. They're pricey as fuck and provide absolutely zero stats once you're in a fight. Picking them up early makes you much weaker if you end up in a 2v2 counterjungle situation or early brawl around dragon. I never take them on my junglers anymore, especially since all the good junglers right now have built in mobility. Vi, J4, Xin, Hec, Shaco, Voli, Noc to an extent. I'll usually pick up treads or tabi situationally or even berserkers on noc.

    I've been loving mobo boots on jungle cho. Probably a Silver ELO thing, but just being able to make it to fights is a big concern for me. Plus they let me get into range for a rupture or silence quicker when I'm starting a gank.

    And like the example Roz posted, when I rush mobo boots on a jungler it makes me feel like I have insane lane presence.

    Mobility is increasingly becoming my choice of boots for supports as well. The extra speed helps when warding and helps your positioning before team fights. If you're a support with a good initiate like Taric or Alistar, SR active + boots allows you to catch up with a fleeing enemy team.

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  • wazillawazilla Having a late dinner Registered User regular
    edited March 2013
    Welp, gonna stream some games with Galrog if anybody feels like tuning in. Link is possibly in sig I forget. twitch.tv/wazilla

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  • TalithTalith 変態という名の紳士 Miami, FLRegistered User regular
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    You know, it wouldn't kill you to update that OP from time to time. Shit like THE MAC CLIENT HAS BEEN DISCONTINUED is starting to really betray its 2011 origins.

    Don't worry Boss, I'll get the next thread and really comb through it.

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  • JAEFJAEF Unstoppably Bald Registered User regular
    Korror wrote: »
    Cyrenic wrote: »
    Reposting my comment from the end of the last thread, since the discussion is ongoing:
    JAEF wrote: »
    I actually strongly dislike mobo boots on anyone who's not a roaming assassin like talon, eve, kha, whatever. They're pricey as fuck and provide absolutely zero stats once you're in a fight. Picking them up early makes you much weaker if you end up in a 2v2 counterjungle situation or early brawl around dragon. I never take them on my junglers anymore, especially since all the good junglers right now have built in mobility. Vi, J4, Xin, Hec, Shaco, Voli, Noc to an extent. I'll usually pick up treads or tabi situationally or even berserkers on noc.

    I've been loving mobo boots on jungle cho. Probably a Silver ELO thing, but just being able to make it to fights is a big concern for me. Plus they let me get into range for a rupture or silence quicker when I'm starting a gank.

    And like the example Roz posted, when I rush mobo boots on a jungler it makes me feel like I have insane lane presence.

    Mobility is increasingly becoming my choice of boots for supports as well. The extra speed helps when warding and helps your positioning before team fights. If you're a support with a good initiate like Taric or Alistar, SR active + boots allows you to catch up with a fleeing enemy team.
    I actually run 0/9/21 on taric for ZOOM ZOOM. Being able to run down people for stuns and getting in range for W is hugely important. Mobo boots on top of that and get fucked. He's tanky enough that you don't really need the 13 in defensive if you play smart.

  • DasUberEdwardDasUberEdward Registered User regular
    anyone want to be my ADC and climb our way to silver tier?

    i'm a rad leona. gonna get nami when i get more IP bux

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  • übergeekübergeek Sector 2814Registered User regular
    edited March 2013
    ~Sigh~ They really did it.....they nerfed Insanity potion on Singed. Irelia can run around with it up all the time in her passive and build tanky and murder people til the sun goes down. Singed can't be allowed to do that for 15 seconds.

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  • TalithTalith 変態という名の紳士 Miami, FLRegistered User regular
    The only thing holding back the surgical chainsaw aimed at Irelia's kit is the time investment of a rework and the balancing act thereafter. Singed should count himself lucky that only the tenacity from his ult got hit. With the S3 changes it also begs the question "does he even really need it anymore now that you have access to two types of tenacity passively in the defense tree?"

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  • SuperRuperSuperRuper Registered User regular
    übergeek wrote: »
    ~Sigh~ They really did it.....they nered Insanity potion on Singed. Irelai can run around with it up all the time in her passive and build tanky and murder people til the sun goes down. Singed can't be allowed to do that for 15 seconds.

    The difference is she also doesn't get insane health/mana regen, MS, AP, Armor/MR.

    And it's for 25 seconds.
    I hate Singed

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  • RozRoz Boss of InternetRegistered User regular
    Talith wrote: »
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    You know, it wouldn't kill you to update that OP from time to time. Shit like THE MAC CLIENT HAS BEEN DISCONTINUED is starting to really betray its 2011 origins.

    Don't worry Boss, I'll get the next thread and really comb through it.

    We'll see if your posting skills are as strong as your dominion skills.

    It's on.

  • TalithTalith 変態という名の紳士 Miami, FLRegistered User regular
    Miniwolf wrote: »
    http://imgur.com/a/e3T2x

    An album of the new ARAM

    That Koggles got two barriers. I'd love to have two barriers. :<

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  • StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    Talith wrote: »
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    You know, it wouldn't kill you to update that OP from time to time. Shit like THE MAC CLIENT HAS BEEN DISCONTINUED is starting to really betray its 2011 origins.
    Don't worry Boss, I'll get the next thread and really comb through it.
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  • MiniwolfMiniwolf Probably somewhere sniffing somethingRegistered User regular
    Roz wrote: »
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    You know, it wouldn't kill you to update that OP from time to time. Shit like THE MAC CLIENT HAS BEEN DISCONTINUED is starting to really betray its 2011 origins.


    I had a brand new OP I'd been working on for about a month now, it's just a shame I'm always at work when we hit the cap. :(

    If you PM it to me, I will post it. I just wanted to get the thread up. I want to slowly edit it but I am not home yet.

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  • RozRoz Boss of InternetRegistered User regular
    übergeek wrote: »
    ~Sigh~ They really did it.....they nered Insanity potion on Singed. Irelai can run around with it up all the time in her passive and build tanky and murder people til the sun goes down. Singed can't be allowed to do that for 15 seconds.

    Champs have to be balanced around their kits. Often they are more than the sums of their parts. One hero getting something for free permanently, while another hero only gets it for a few seconds, is perfectly normal so long as overall balance is maintained.

    Talith
  • JAEFJAEF Unstoppably Bald Registered User regular
    Lyte pretty much nailed why I think vote-kick is a horrendous idea.

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  • DelphinidaesDelphinidaes FFXIV: Delphi Kisaragi Registered User regular
    edited March 2013
    SuperRuper wrote: »
    übergeek wrote: »
    ~Sigh~ They really did it.....they nered Insanity potion on Singed. Irelai can run around with it up all the time in her passive and build tanky and murder people til the sun goes down. Singed can't be allowed to do that for 15 seconds.

    The difference is she also doesn't get insane health/mana regen, MS, AP, Armor/MR.

    And it's for 25 seconds.
    I hate Singed

    Exactly, this isn't an apples to apples comparison. Singed get a shit load of stats from his ult, he doesn't need the crowd control reduction on TOP of being nigh unkillable.

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  • übergeekübergeek Sector 2814Registered User regular
    SuperRuper wrote: »
    übergeek wrote: »
    ~Sigh~ They really did it.....they nered Insanity potion on Singed. Irelai can run around with it up all the time in her passive and build tanky and murder people til the sun goes down. Singed can't be allowed to do that for 15 seconds.

    The difference is she also doesn't get insane health/mana regen, MS, AP, Armor/MR.

    And it's for 25 seconds.
    I hate Singed

    I'd rather have the AS and AD back. Way back when, the tenacity was one of the things they put into the ult to compensate for the loss of those things, and now we don't even have that anymore. A Singed that cannot chase to fling (with a now nerfed fling as well), is not worth a damn. Now you are -required- to take Mercs. Less build diversity etc. etc.....

    Oh well, I'll play someone else.

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  • ArchArch Neat-o, mosquito! Registered User regular
    Singed still best champ

    I need to play singed more

  • JunleaJunlea Registered User regular
    JAEF wrote: »
    Korror wrote: »
    Cyrenic wrote: »
    Reposting my comment from the end of the last thread, since the discussion is ongoing:
    JAEF wrote: »
    I actually strongly dislike mobo boots on anyone who's not a roaming assassin like talon, eve, kha, whatever. They're pricey as fuck and provide absolutely zero stats once you're in a fight. Picking them up early makes you much weaker if you end up in a 2v2 counterjungle situation or early brawl around dragon. I never take them on my junglers anymore, especially since all the good junglers right now have built in mobility. Vi, J4, Xin, Hec, Shaco, Voli, Noc to an extent. I'll usually pick up treads or tabi situationally or even berserkers on noc.

    I've been loving mobo boots on jungle cho. Probably a Silver ELO thing, but just being able to make it to fights is a big concern for me. Plus they let me get into range for a rupture or silence quicker when I'm starting a gank.

    And like the example Roz posted, when I rush mobo boots on a jungler it makes me feel like I have insane lane presence.

    Mobility is increasingly becoming my choice of boots for supports as well. The extra speed helps when warding and helps your positioning before team fights. If you're a support with a good initiate like Taric or Alistar, SR active + boots allows you to catch up with a fleeing enemy team.
    I actually run 0/9/21 on taric for ZOOM ZOOM. Being able to run down people for stuns and getting in range for W is hugely important. Mobo boots on top of that and get fucked. He's tanky enough that you don't really need the 13 in defensive if you play smart.

    I also take Mobo boots on Taric.. and Lulu... I love my mobo boots on support.

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  • ArchArch Neat-o, mosquito! Registered User regular
    I mean, I always used to take ghost/cleanse on singed all the time, and now it seems like that is my hard-lock idea now

  • RozRoz Boss of InternetRegistered User regular
    JAEF wrote: »
    Lyte pretty much nailed why I think vote-kick is a horrendous idea.

    Lyte is fucking amazing. I am 100% positive this outreach to the players is designed to slowly convince them that the three original suggestions (posited by the community) are not very good ideas. This will make the community more amicable to their eventual proposed solutions, without having to argue and debate over why they didn't choose vote kick, for example.

    Also, please don't read anything into that - this isn't a nefarious plot or anything. I do believe they're sincere about looking at community feedback and suggestions, just that I think this excersize is necessary to help the community understand the social dynamics at play.

    Cyrenic
  • Albino BunnyAlbino Bunny Jackie Registered User regular
    So, this just in:

    Jungle Wukong
    Mid Morgana
    Support Lulu
    + WHOEVER THE FUCK YOU WANT

    Wins all team fights ever.

  • RozRoz Boss of InternetRegistered User regular
    übergeek wrote: »
    SuperRuper wrote: »
    übergeek wrote: »
    ~Sigh~ They really did it.....they nered Insanity potion on Singed. Irelai can run around with it up all the time in her passive and build tanky and murder people til the sun goes down. Singed can't be allowed to do that for 15 seconds.

    The difference is she also doesn't get insane health/mana regen, MS, AP, Armor/MR.

    And it's for 25 seconds.
    I hate Singed

    I'd rather have the AS and AD back. Way back when, the tenacity was one of the things they put into the ult to compensate for the loss of those things, and now we don't even have that anymore. A Singed that cannot chase to fling (with a now nerfed fling as well), is not worth a damn. Now you are -required- to take Mercs. Less build diversity etc. etc.....

    Oh well, I'll play someone else.

    I don't understand, why are you required to take Mercs? You get free tenacity from Masteries that didn't even exist last season. Hell, you can get free Tenacity from Boots 3 if you want them.

    I fail to see how losing the Tenancity bonus is really all that punishing. I mean, they've reduced it before specifically because it caused him to be virtually un-CCable. Right now with Masteries and his Ult, he's pretty darn close to that monster he used to be.

    I don't main Singed, so perhaps you or others can educate me on this point, as I could be mistaken. But I fail to see how this hurts him significantly? He will be slightly less effective, sure, but as far as nerfs go this is about as soft as they come.

  • JunleaJunlea Registered User regular
    I don't get it. I've lost five straight ranked and they have all been massive stomps. I've had some terrible players on my team and plenty of diamonds on the other team. Every. Single. Time.

    Junlea :: Writer, Gamer, Bagel Fan
  • JoshmviiJoshmvii Registered User regular
    edited March 2013
    If the other team's Akali starts to snowball, you do the only thing you must: Out assassin her and put your team right on your back.

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  • DasUberEdwardDasUberEdward Registered User regular
    okay one more match until my promotion

    my team is speaking Indonesian but I have faith

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