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Hearthstone- Blizzard Free to Play CCG. Beta Sign-ups open!

DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
edited October 2013 in Games and Technology
Sign up for beta here.

Video explanation of THINGS.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vF_PdZybRJE#!
Grobian wrote: »
Also maybe for the OP an assortment of random facts you don't learn in the tutorial:
  • Max handsize is 10 cards. Any card over that is discarded instead of drawn.
  • You can't have more than 7 minions out.
  • If you draw from an empty deck you get progressively more damage instead: 1 damage/card the first time, 2 damage/card the second and so on.
  • If multiple things happen at the same time (e.g. trigger at the end of the turn) they happen in the order their respective cards have been played.
  • There are hidden quests/achievements that award gold, notably: 100g for beating all Expert AIs, 100g for playing every class to level 10 and 300g for 100 wins total.
  • The Shaman hero power always calls one of the 4 totems that isn't out yet. If you get a totem bounced to your hand, you can play a second one, though.
  • The hunter spell Animal Companion just calls a random of the 3 possible minions.
  • The Warlock spell Sense Demons gives you 1/1 imps for 1 mana if you don't have (any more) demons in your deck.
  • Stealth overrides Taunt, not the other way around.
  • Stealth is only for the enemy, you can buff your stealthed minions.
  • Priest: Shadowform refreshes your hero power, so you can use it twice in a turn.
  • Druid: Wild Growth at 10 mana crystals awards you a spell "Excess Mana" which draws a card for 0.
Grobian wrote: »

A list of all of the hidden quests.

Here, I made a Google spreadsheet: PA Forums Hearthstone Players List.

Since everyone (with the link) can edit, I will periodically make a copy onto the second protected sheet and use that as abackup in case something blows up.

BOSTON--Today during a presentation titled Blizzard Presents at PAX East, World of Warcraft developer Blizzard Entertainment announced HearthStone, a free-to-play strategy game.

Explaining the game, a Blizzard representative said, "We wanted to do something a little different." The game, described as "really small," was built by a team of 15 developers.

That's it so far. I've heard someone reference CCG, and someone else reference a strategy game. Obviously we have folks at PAX right now who will hopefully provide some info. Shall we begin speculating?
Blizzard's next game is HearthStone: Heroes of Warcraft, a free-to-play strategy title that is an online collectible card game, the studio announced today during its PAX East panel.

"We wanted to do something a little bit different, just within the studio," said a Blizzard representative during the panel. The team developing the game has 15 developers, and Blizzard characterized it as "scrappy and versatile."

After showing the game's intro cinematic, the studio explained its design philosophy for HearthStone.

"We really wanted to bring in a lot of the charm of the Warcraft universe," said Blizzard. The studio also wanted to simplify the genre and make the game's rules easy to understand so players can jump in without having to know too much.

HearthStone will launch with over 300 different cards; packs will come with five cards each, and players will be able to earn or buy packs. Blizzard hasn't yet decided how much it will charge for packs, but is expecting to set pricing "somewhere around a dollar."

Blizzard highlighted the act of opening a digital pack, saying the developers have spent "quite a bit of time" on the process to make sure it's as exciting for players as opening a pack of physical cards. For example, rare cards will glow, and each one explodes with a flourish when you flip it over.

Players will also be able to craft their own cards, combining the powers of multiple cards to form new ones. It's a major part of building up a deck, another element that Blizzard worked on for a while. The interface will suggest cards from your collection to you, and provide tools that evaluate a collection to help players figure out the best cards to choose. It can automatically create a basic deck for you that's based on the available cards, too.

HearthStone is "focused primarily on one-on-one [play]." Matchmaking will be handled through Battle.net, and winning online duels will boost your in-game medal ranking. The game will also support Shoutcasting.

Blizzard showed off a warlock-druid battle to demonstrate the basic progression of a duel. Card animations are an important part of the experience — when you attack, your card will jump across the board's center line and literally whack the enemy card you're attacking, and every move is accompanied by some sort of flourish, like a glow or sparkle animation.

Links:

http://www.polygon.com/2013/3/22/4135120/blizzard-hearthstone-heroes-of-warcraft-pax-east-2013

http://uk.gamespot.com/events/pax-east-2013/story.html?sid=6405772

Some minor details:

Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft will launch on Windows and Mac, and it will be available later on iPad. (No Android? BOOOOOO)

You can disenchant cards you don't need for components, then possibly craft cards you need?

Livecasting support built in-game.

No in-game trading, no selling of cards.

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Some images of in-game stuff:
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Some Twitch stream recordings:

http://www.twitch.tv/playhearthstone/b/422596394 (July maybe?)

http://www.twitch.tv/playhearthstone/c/2639827 (August)

What is this I don't even.
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  • ThemadcowThemadcow Registered User regular
    Errr, sounds like Rage Of Bahamut mixed with MTG.

  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    Microtransactions : The Video Game?

    All the obscene profitability and artificial obsolescence of a CCG without any of that messy printing of real paper into a shape.

    This game was an inevitability.

  • JutranjoJutranjo Registered User regular
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    Microtransactions : The Video Game?

    All the obscene profitability and artificial obsolescence of a CCG without any of that messy printing of real paper into a shape.

    This game was an inevitability.

    This looks better than MTG online. I can't wait to try this.

  • DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    Themadcow wrote: »
    Errr, sounds like Rage Of Bahamut mixed with MTG.

    If this is Rage of Bahamut style integration of cards, they can count me right the fuck out. I'm hoping for something richer than that.

    What is this I don't even.
  • SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    This looks like a ton of fun. Dunno what rage of bahumat is but the pack opening video from the Pax stream sold me.

  • ScosglenScosglen Registered User regular
    Watching the presentation at PAX which had a whole lot of game footage, it looks like a concentrated version of the extant Warcraft card game. Looks fun.

  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    I read this as, "Blizzard announces a beta test for a free-to-play system."

  • TheKoolEagleTheKoolEagle Registered User regular
    I played this years ago, it was called world of warcraft TCG at that time.

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  • ArchsorcererArchsorcerer Registered User regular
    So kinda like EA's BattleForge and SAGA?

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  • Maz-Maz- 飛べ Registered User regular
    Hooray for microtransactions! I sure do love and "embrace" them.

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  • ScosglenScosglen Registered User regular
    edited March 2013
    Collectible card games have been operating on the "spend a few bucks for a booster pack" model long before the word microtransaction was even coined. The only way anyone could possibly be incensed about this is if they have absolutely no familiarity with this genre.

    Not to mention, when I was a kid playing Magic, WoTC never sent me free cards just for playing their game, or automatically matched me up with fair opponents anywhere in the world.

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  • PMAversPMAvers Registered User regular
    edited March 2013
    Scosglen wrote: »
    Watching the presentation at PAX which had a whole lot of game footage, it looks like a concentrated version of the extant Warcraft card game. Looks fun.

    Yeah, looks like they cut out anything they might have to pay Wizards a fee for due to stupid patents, and made it so that I can actually play it instead of buying cards and letting them sit around except for possibly a draft event at GenCon.

    I think I'm in. I like the disenchanting/crafting system, where you can de cards you don't need to produce arcade dust to craft ones you actually do need.

    Also holy crap I was cracking up at the Jaraxus bit during the game they played.

    The draft/Forge mode looks fun, too. For those who didn't see the video, you get a choice of 3 heroes, and then does a quasi-draft to build a deck where you pick cards out of a choice of three-card sets.

    Wonder if we're going to eventually see a Raid/Dungeon mode.

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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON Registered User regular
    Scosglen wrote: »
    Collectible card games have been operating on the "spend a few bucks for a booster pack" model long before the word microtransaction was even coined. The only way anyone could possibly be incensed about this is if they have absolutely no familiarity with this genre.

    Not to mention, when I was a kid playing Magic, WoTC never sent me free cards just for playing their game, or automatically matched me up with fair opponents anywhere in the world.
    Collectible card games have also been operating on the "sell your cards to someone else when you no longer need them" model, which I somewhat doubt Hearthstone will support.

  • DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    I enjoyed the WoW CCG well enough. It didn't blow my mind, though, and considering I've already played that specific game, plus the abundance of online card games currently all over the market, I'm not sure this is intriguing ENOUGH. Hopefully they have some tricks up their sleeve to make the game fresh somehow.

    Also, iOS but no Android? Booooo.

    What is this I don't even.
  • ScosglenScosglen Registered User regular
    edited March 2013
    Scosglen wrote: »
    Collectible card games have been operating on the "spend a few bucks for a booster pack" model long before the word microtransaction was even coined. The only way anyone could possibly be incensed about this is if they have absolutely no familiarity with this genre.

    Not to mention, when I was a kid playing Magic, WoTC never sent me free cards just for playing their game, or automatically matched me up with fair opponents anywhere in the world.
    Collectible card games have also been operating on the "sell your cards to someone else when you no longer need them" model, which I somewhat doubt Hearthstone will support.

    Hard to say what they will do, but it sure would be a perfect opportunity for them to leverage the RMAH infrastructure they have for Diablo into another natural fit.

    Either way, the only time I ever sold back Magic cards was liquidating cards I bought in prerelease tournaments that I dabbled in long after my true interest in the game had faded. I have to believe that the overhwelming majority of people who play CCGs either throw their old cards away, keep them in a shoebox somewhere, or bring them into a hobby store and get offered $15 for the entire lot. I'm not exactly heartbroken at the prospect of possibly not being able to resell cards.

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  • SeidkonaSeidkona Had an upgrade Registered User regular
    This is an interesting proposition. On one hand no Android makes me far less interested because I am more likely to play these types of games on my tablet than my PC but on the other hand this has the potential to offer me something Duels of the Planeswalkers will not and that's actual deck building (yes, I know mtgo is a thing). . .


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  • PMAversPMAvers Registered User regular
    Darkewolfe wrote: »
    I enjoyed the WoW CCG well enough. It didn't blow my mind, though, and considering I've already played that specific game, plus the abundance of online card games currently all over the market, I'm not sure this is intriguing ENOUGH. Hopefully they have some tricks up their sleeve to make the game fresh somehow.

    I think presentation and polish are two big things they'd be bringing, since I can't think of any that are anywhere near what they were showing today.

    Wouldn't be surprised if we see some sort of WoW tie-in too for active subscribers. Toss them some free packs every month, or a discount on packs?

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  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator, Administrator admin
    Looks a wee bit simplistic, but hey, F2P, it'll only cost me some time to give it a shot.

    And easy access is a big positive too.

  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    PMAvers wrote: »
    Darkewolfe wrote: »
    I enjoyed the WoW CCG well enough. It didn't blow my mind, though, and considering I've already played that specific game, plus the abundance of online card games currently all over the market, I'm not sure this is intriguing ENOUGH. Hopefully they have some tricks up their sleeve to make the game fresh somehow.

    I think presentation and polish are two big things they'd be bringing, since I can't think of any that are anywhere near what they were showing today.

    Wouldn't be surprised if we see some sort of WoW tie-in too for active subscribers. Toss them some free packs every month, or a discount on packs?

    Rare Hearthstone cards will unlock unique WoW mounts.

  • PMAversPMAvers Registered User regular
    edited March 2013
    BTW, if you have a battle.net account you can now opt-in for the beta via Account Management.

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  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    My comment sounded probably throw-away but that is my actual impression, by the way. I think Blizzard wants to test whether or not they can participate in F2P game models and decided to have a game made to test it, rather than use one of their flagship titles to test it. This will likely determine Titan's pay method, and could probably determine whether or not WoW goes F2P.

  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    As long as WoW continues to make it's $15 a month from approximately 10Mill users, it will never go free to play, unless Blizz is 100% confident that they can make more money on a F2P model, which isn't likely.

    Or when they run out of content for paid expansions. Which, the common theory is that there are 2 more full paid expansions, one which raises the level cap to 95, and one to 100.

  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    Half of that 10 million figure are Chinese and don't pay a monthly subscription. They have a different model in China, iirc.

    Or was that another MMO, I can't remember. All I do remember if that Blizzard have been outrageously exaggerating their subscriber figures for years.

  • JutranjoJutranjo Registered User regular
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    Half of that 10 million figure are Chinese and don't pay a monthly subscription. They have a different model in China, iirc.

    Or was that another MMO, I can't remember. All I do remember if that Blizzard have been outrageously exaggerating their subscriber figures for years.

    Chinese supposedly pay by the hour. For locally not insane prices. Blizzard "exaggerating" numbers isn't even close to companies like Jagex and Riot for their shit. I think the only company that inflate their numbers less than Blizzard is Valve.

  • WaltWalt Waller Arcane Enchanted Frozen ElectrifiedRegistered User regular
    Scosglen wrote: »
    Collectible card games have been operating on the "spend a few bucks for a booster pack" model long before the word microtransaction was even coined. The only way anyone could possibly be incensed about this is if they have absolutely no familiarity with this genre.

    Not to mention, when I was a kid playing Magic, WoTC never sent me free cards just for playing their game, or automatically matched me up with fair opponents anywhere in the world.
    Collectible card games have also been operating on the "sell your cards to someone else when you no longer need them" model, which I somewhat doubt Hearthstone will support.

    It supports it by allowing you to scrap old cards to build shiny new ones.

  • DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    I'm not sure the tie-in to WoW makes total sense to me either. WoW is still a juggernaut, but it's a twilight IP. I'd rather get hooked into something new.

    What is this I don't even.
  • NeurotikaNeurotika Registered User regular
    It'd be pretty cool to see them expand with new sets into the other IPs, Diablo, SC2, etc.

  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator, Administrator admin
    ForceVoid wrote: »
    It'd be pretty cool to see them expand with new sets into the other IPs, Diablo, SC2, etc.

    What happened to that Blizz IP MOBA thing they showed once?

  • PMAversPMAvers Registered User regular
    Oh, man, I'm in trouble.

    Just noticed who the Paladin hero is. :D

    yeeeeeeeeeees

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  • JutranjoJutranjo Registered User regular
    Echo wrote: »
    ForceVoid wrote: »
    It'd be pretty cool to see them expand with new sets into the other IPs, Diablo, SC2, etc.

    What happened to that Blizz IP MOBA thing they showed once?

    Blizzard DOTA is now called Blizzard All Stars, is a custom map for SC2. It'll probably be fun, I doubt it'll be as deep as DOTA/DOTA2. No idea when it's coming out though :D

  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    Echo wrote: »
    ForceVoid wrote: »
    It'd be pretty cool to see them expand with new sets into the other IPs, Diablo, SC2, etc.

    What happened to that Blizz IP MOBA thing they showed once?

    Are you talking about Blizzard All-Stars? (Formerly known as Blizzard DotA before the lawsuit with Valve).

    They are still making Blizzard All-Stars, and it will be going into beta this summer most likely. They said they wanted to get HotS out the door before they started pushing their MOBA.

  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    Lucascraft wrote: »
    As long as WoW continues to make it's $15 a month from approximately 10Mill users, it will never go free to play, unless Blizz is 100% confident that they can make more money on a F2P model, which isn't likely.

    Or when they run out of content for paid expansions. Which, the common theory is that there are 2 more full paid expansions, one which raises the level cap to 95, and one to 100.

    That's my point though, this allows them to test their hand at F2P models. It may actually be worthwhile. That's the scary thing. But anyway, I'm just now realizing my whole idea (or posting it here) may derail this thread from the actual thing it's about. I'm just pulling things out of my ass here.

  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    So now Blizzard and Notch are going to have competing games?

  • PMAversPMAvers Registered User regular
    Admittingly, I was really hoping this keynote today was going to be some Blizzard All-Stars news, hopefully we get some news from people cornering Blizzard staff on the show floor today.

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  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    You can't just 'test' to see if a game can support F2P. They have to be designed from the ground up to be successfully using that model. Some games can transition but usually as a desperation move (Lotro / TOR).

    Titan will have been in development for years now. Years and years. I doubt that they don't already have all that locked in, especially if they're building server infrastructure and all that jazz.

  • CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    Microtransactions : The Video Game?

    All the obscene profitability and artificial obsolescence of a CCG without any of that messy printing of real paper into a shape.

    This game was an inevitability.

    Like MtGO and DotP are any different :P

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  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    You know what I find to be infinitely more interesting than the announcement of Hearthstone?

    The fact that Blizzard said they have this 15 man dev team for the purpose of creating smaller scale games. I'm not too interested in playing a digital CCG. But man... the idea of Blizzard getting into the portable market and iOS is something that has me frothing with excitement.

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  • NeurotikaNeurotika Registered User regular
    Beta starts "this summer," blargh.

  • WyvernWyvern Registered User regular
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    You can't just 'test' to see if a game can support F2P. They have to be designed from the ground up to be successfully using that model. Some games can transition but usually as a desperation move (Lotro / TOR).
    I've actually heard that LotRO was doing fine as a subscription game, but Dungeons and Dragons Online saw such a big income boost when it went FTP (which was a desperation move) that Turbine decided to do the same with Lord of the Rings in hopes of increasing profits.

    Anyway, I'm actually a little bit enthusiastic about this. I used to play a lot of Magic back in the day, so every once in a while I get an itch for a decent deck-building game that doesn't cost huge amounts of money to play and usually come up empty.

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