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So apparently New Jersey law contains two conflicting statements on when an election filling the vacancy would have to be held.
Basically the difference comes down to whether the seat would have to be re-elected in 2013 or 2014. Either way the Governor is allowed to call a special election, though.
So apparently New Jersey law contains two conflicting statements on when an election filling the vacancy would have to be held.
Basically the difference comes down to whether the seat would have to be re-elected in 2013 or 2014. Either way the Governor is allowed to call a special election, though.
I don't think Christie is dumb enough to risk his own reelection by trying to keep that seat in GOP hands for another year. NJ has a fair number of republicans but keep in mind it hasn't had a republican senator in like 25 years.
That seems like the smartest move, especially if he appoints a non-loon Pub in the interim. He can tell the Pubs in 2016 that he elected one of their own, and he can tell the general public that he pushed to get a democratically-elected Senator in there as quickly as he could. And if the Pubs cry for not getting a teaper in there, he can just point out that it didn't much matter for the sake of a guy who was going to be in there only a few months, anyway.
It'll appear reasonable to the general, and reasonable to anyone who doesn't already hate him for working with Obama, and the few that already do hate him aren't going to be won over anyway.
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That seems like the smartest move, especially if he appoints a non-loon Pub in the interim. He can tell the Pubs in 2016 that he elected one of their own, and he can tell the general public that he pushed to get a democratically-elected Senator in there as quickly as he could. And if the Pubs cry for not getting a teaper in there, he can just point out that it didn't much matter for the sake of a guy who was going to be in there only a few months, anyway.
It'll appear reasonable to the general, and reasonable to anyone who doesn't already hate him for working with Obama, and the few that already do hate him aren't going to be won over anyway.
You have to remember most of the primary audience isn't reasonable at all. The hardcore partisans are roasting him over this, unsurprisingly.
Still probably his best option for remaining Governor of New Jersey though.
The idea that your vote is a moral statement about you or who you vote for is some backwards ass libertarian nonsense. Your vote is about society. Vote to protect the vulnerable.
Special election would be this year, Lautenberg's seat was up next year.
The idea that your vote is a moral statement about you or who you vote for is some backwards ass libertarian nonsense. Your vote is about society. Vote to protect the vulnerable.
I mean that NJ has their Governor and state legislative elections in November this year, so why not lump the Senate seat in with that? They're having to put on two elections in a months span.
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Because a Senate special election would increase turnout, and make his reelection a little less sure. Also, it technically has to be within... I think 76 days, so he is following a letter of the law (which there are apparently two, and they give leeway, or something)
Yeah, Christie is worried that Booker is running for the Senate seat and that would drive up Democratic turnout, lowering his margins of victory in the gubernatorial election and hurting his Presidential chances. So he put the special election up front instead of running that risk, or risking a 1.5 year appointment pissing off a bunch of Dems instead.
On a completely unrelated note, I found out one of the parents of a student of mine has worked for Strom Thurmond.
During the House Agriculture Committee’s debate over a new farm bill, Tennessee Republican Stephen Fincher... in defending relatively small cuts in food stamps... cited 2 Thessalonians 3:10... “For also, when we were with you, this we declared to you: that, if any man will not work, neither let him eat.”
Using Agriculture Department data, researchers at the Environmental Working Group found that Representative Stephen Fincher, a Republican and a farmer from Frog Jump, Tenn., collected nearly $3.5 million in subsidies from 1999 to 2012. The data is part of the research group’s online farm subsidy database, from which the group issues a report each year.
In 2012 alone, the data shows, Mr. Fincher received about $70,000 in direct payments, money that is given to farmers and farmland owners, even if they do not grow crops. It is unclear how much Mr. Fincher received in crop insurance subsidies because the names of people receiving the subsidies are not public. The group said most of the agriculture subsidies go to the largest, most profitable farm operations in the country. These farmers have received $265 billion in direct payments and farm insurance subsidies since 1995, federal records show.
This man should starve. His whole family should be made to starve. Let's not forget that many food stamp recipients are children who can't be expected to work anyway.
During the House Agriculture Committee’s debate over a new farm bill, Tennessee Republican Stephen Fincher... in defending relatively small cuts in food stamps... cited 2 Thessalonians 3:10... “For also, when we were with you, this we declared to you: that, if any man will not work, neither let him eat.”
Using Agriculture Department data, researchers at the Environmental Working Group found that Representative Stephen Fincher, a Republican and a farmer from Frog Jump, Tenn., collected nearly $3.5 million in subsidies from 1999 to 2012. The data is part of the research group’s online farm subsidy database, from which the group issues a report each year.
In 2012 alone, the data shows, Mr. Fincher received about $70,000 in direct payments, money that is given to farmers and farmland owners, even if they do not grow crops. It is unclear how much Mr. Fincher received in crop insurance subsidies because the names of people receiving the subsidies are not public. The group said most of the agriculture subsidies go to the largest, most profitable farm operations in the country. These farmers have received $265 billion in direct payments and farm insurance subsidies since 1995, federal records show.
This man should starve. His whole family should be made to starve. Let's not forget that many food stamp recipients are children who can't be expected to work anyway.
During the House Agriculture Committee’s debate over a new farm bill, Tennessee Republican Stephen Fincher... in defending relatively small cuts in food stamps... cited 2 Thessalonians 3:10... “For also, when we were with you, this we declared to you: that, if any man will not work, neither let him eat.”
Using Agriculture Department data, researchers at the Environmental Working Group found that Representative Stephen Fincher, a Republican and a farmer from Frog Jump, Tenn., collected nearly $3.5 million in subsidies from 1999 to 2012. The data is part of the research group’s online farm subsidy database, from which the group issues a report each year.
In 2012 alone, the data shows, Mr. Fincher received about $70,000 in direct payments, money that is given to farmers and farmland owners, even if they do not grow crops. It is unclear how much Mr. Fincher received in crop insurance subsidies because the names of people receiving the subsidies are not public. The group said most of the agriculture subsidies go to the largest, most profitable farm operations in the country. These farmers have received $265 billion in direct payments and farm insurance subsidies since 1995, federal records show.
This man should starve. His whole family should be made to starve. Let's not forget that many food stamp recipients are children who can't be expected to work anyway.
Quoting the bible to justify hurting people is the single most backwards bullshit ever. I'm not religious at all, but I went to enough catholic schools to know how this shit is supposed to work.
Ah, John Dingell. Theoretically D-Ann Arbor/Monroe/some other places, but really D-GM/Ford/Chrysler.
The idea that your vote is a moral statement about you or who you vote for is some backwards ass libertarian nonsense. Your vote is about society. Vote to protect the vulnerable.
And people were annoyed when I celebrated his retirement.
The idea that your vote is a moral statement about you or who you vote for is some backwards ass libertarian nonsense. Your vote is about society. Vote to protect the vulnerable.
Boehner tried to pass the farm bill and failed. Dems bailed because it heavily cut SNAP, GOP bailed because it didn't cut SNAP enough. I suspect Pelosi probably wins here.
The idea that your vote is a moral statement about you or who you vote for is some backwards ass libertarian nonsense. Your vote is about society. Vote to protect the vulnerable.
Some new, completely unsurprising Ron Paul revelations:
The hacktivist collective Anonymous set out to take down the white supremacist American Third Party (A3P) in what they called “Operation Blitzkrieg” but they may have done much more.
In a document dump that includes private forum messages, emails, organization notes another other information the group found numerous connections between Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul and A3P. According to the documents, all hosted here, Paul himself regularly met with many A3P members, engaged in conference calls with their board of directors and engaged in a “bridging tactic” between A3P and the Ron Paul Revolution.
Other excerpts show A3P webmaster Jamie Kelso (whose email account was one hacked by the collective) coordinating meeting between Paul and other members of A3P such as corporate lawyer and chairman of the neo-Nazi group Paul. “I’m going to go to the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) with Bill Johnson,” reads an email to an A3P member dated January 2011. “Bill and I will be meeting with Ron and Ran Paul. I have a teleconference call with Bill (and Ron Paul) tonight. Much more later. Things are starting to happen (thanks to folks like you).”
Some new, completely unsurprising Ron Paul revelations:
The hacktivist collective Anonymous set out to take down the white supremacist American Third Party (A3P) in what they called “Operation Blitzkrieg” but they may have done much more.
In a document dump that includes private forum messages, emails, organization notes another other information the group found numerous connections between Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul and A3P. According to the documents, all hosted here, Paul himself regularly met with many A3P members, engaged in conference calls with their board of directors and engaged in a “bridging tactic” between A3P and the Ron Paul Revolution.
Other excerpts show A3P webmaster Jamie Kelso (whose email account was one hacked by the collective) coordinating meeting between Paul and other members of A3P such as corporate lawyer and chairman of the neo-Nazi group Paul. “I’m going to go to the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) with Bill Johnson,” reads an email to an A3P member dated January 2011. “Bill and I will be meeting with Ron and Ran Paul. I have a teleconference call with Bill (and Ron Paul) tonight. Much more later. Things are starting to happen (thanks to folks like you).”
I love the irony of anonymous exposing Ron Paul. It's just ... beautiful.
Considering that article is almost a year and a half old...no amount of evidence is going to convince Paul-bots that he's anything other than a political Messiah, huh?
So today I engaged in the democratic process and cast a vote on the New Jersey democratic primary for US Senate.
Voted for Rush Holt since he was the most liberal of the four candidates and because Cory Booker is a craven coward and he can wait till he wins the primary for my vote in the general. Anyone else go vote today?
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It's going to bum me out when Booker wins. He wants to be like Rand Paul and Ted Cruz*! An ineffectual dolt who gets lost of time on TV.
*actually true
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The idea that your vote is a moral statement about you or who you vote for is some backwards ass libertarian nonsense. Your vote is about society. Vote to protect the vulnerable.
If Booker actually does accomplish nothing and alienates nearly everyone in the Democratic party I will be a relatively happy camper. I mean, I'd be a happier camper if he just decided to fuck off and go make collecting money from vain rich assholes his full time job, but I'll take what I can get.
I'd be a happier camper if he just decided to fuck off and go make collecting money from vain rich assholes his full time job, but I'll take what I can get.
I'm sorry, but isn't trying to get into the Senate?
I'd be a happier camper if he just decided to fuck off and go make collecting money from vain rich assholes his full time job, but I'll take what I can get.
I'm sorry, but isn't trying to get into the Senate?
And then you have Pallone and only there to split the black vote in favor of Pallone candidate Sheila Oliver.
Not that I'm not cynical enough to figure that Holt, who I voted for, wasn't on the ballot to split liberals off from Bookers voter base, but what can you do.
Pallone is definitely the inside guy and New Jerseys democratic party is the worst.
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Basically the difference comes down to whether the seat would have to be re-elected in 2013 or 2014. Either way the Governor is allowed to call a special election, though.
I don't think Christie is dumb enough to risk his own reelection by trying to keep that seat in GOP hands for another year. NJ has a fair number of republicans but keep in mind it hasn't had a republican senator in like 25 years.
It'll appear reasonable to the general, and reasonable to anyone who doesn't already hate him for working with Obama, and the few that already do hate him aren't going to be won over anyway.
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You have to remember most of the primary audience isn't reasonable at all. The hardcore partisans are roasting him over this, unsurprisingly.
Still probably his best option for remaining Governor of New Jersey though.
On a completely unrelated note, I found out one of the parents of a student of mine has worked for Strom Thurmond.
They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
This man should starve. His whole family should be made to starve. Let's not forget that many food stamp recipients are children who can't be expected to work anyway.
Fuck you, got mine
The Republican mantra in stark display here
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Quoting the bible to justify hurting people is the single most backwards bullshit ever. I'm not religious at all, but I went to enough catholic schools to know how this shit is supposed to work.
This fucking country.
Augh I'm really angry now. Damnit.
So it was about wealthy Christian whites, then?
Also from Paul, a guy who never actually met Jesus except sorta in a vision while he was alone and Jesus told him he was totally the boss now.
I wonder if Jesus said anything about feeding the poor directly....
I guess that depends on how "white" you consider Greeks to be. Also, the people he was writing to probably weren't wealthy.
When you were finally losing the blight on you known as Michelle Bachmann, that did not mean that you should go find someone even crazier to replace her.
Because screw the people who this would help, the egos of the upper ranks must be stroked.
I love the irony of anonymous exposing Ron Paul. It's just ... beautiful.
Considering that article is almost a year and a half old...no amount of evidence is going to convince Paul-bots that he's anything other than a political Messiah, huh?
Voted for Rush Holt since he was the most liberal of the four candidates and because Cory Booker is a craven coward and he can wait till he wins the primary for my vote in the general. Anyone else go vote today?
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*actually true
He's basically Tommy Carcetti to me these days. Accepting of bribes and graft? No.
Willing to compromise any principal to keep climbing that ladder? Indubitably.
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I'm sorry, but isn't trying to get into the Senate?
Touche.
Not that I'm not cynical enough to figure that Holt, who I voted for, wasn't on the ballot to split liberals off from Bookers voter base, but what can you do.
Pallone is definitely the inside guy and New Jerseys democratic party is the worst.
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