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New Laptop Recommendations

GafotoGafoto Registered User regular
So I'm in the market for a new laptop. My current laptop is a 2007 Macbook pro and it's having all kinds of hardware issues (battery is dead, logic board is terminal, trackpad is marginally functional and the screen has seen better days). I've used macs my whole life but I'm having a hard time justifying plunking down 1400+ bucks for a new Macbook Air, no matter how fantastic they look. I have a friend who runs OS X off of his built desktop for photo processing but I'm guessing that isn't an option for a laptop from say, Lenovo?

Honestly my needs aren't too extreme. Like everyone else my computer gets used for web browsing, music and movies 90% of the time. I take a lot of nice photos, edit them with Photoshop and up they go on Flickr or sometimes get printed. Obviously I need a computer with enough processing power to handle that, which isn't too terribly much. So what do you recommend I look at? I'd prefer to spend less than a grand.

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  • grendlegrendle Registered User regular
    edited April 2013
    What about a refurb MacBook Pro?
    http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/specialdeals/mac/macbook_pro/13

    Otherwise a second hand machine is still going to be great and not break your budget.

    grendle on
  • DjeetDjeet Registered User regular
    Getting full hardware support on non-Apple hardware is not a trivial thing. You usually have to pick pretty specific hardware and be up for doing a lot of legwork checking out the various forums that cater to hackintoshes.

    What is your typical workflow in photoshop? That app is one I'd consider to need a goodly amount of processing power, but I could process a few pics here and there on an ultrabook with little issue.

  • GafotoGafoto Registered User regular
    Im not using photoshop to its full potential. Mostly touch ups and panorama work. Honestly i might just be able to get by with elements. I want a macbook but it seems (from cursory browsing on newegg) that i could get a superior 15" notebook from lenovo for at least 300 bucks less. I wish i could say that kind of money is insignificant.

    I was looking at this compooter

    Even composing this post on my ipod touch is making me insane.

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  • HevachHevach Registered User regular
    edited April 2013
    Credentials: Manage an electronics shop and the only guy here (as in the shop, not the forum) you should trust to open up your laptop

    It's pretty easy to get OSX running on a laptop, but getting all your drivers working is another matter. It's a lot easier with a desktop, but still sometimes requires some hardware swapping because driver coverage is spotty as hell.

    I like Lenovos. They don't break often or in spectacular ways like Dell and HP laptops (stay away from HP - the blinking capslock of death is basically their RROD, and it's been a huge problem for years. I see 2-3 of them a month and quite a few repeats). Most of them have the power socket soldered directly to the motherboard, which can turn a $45 repair into a $200 one really fast - I see a lot of broken sockets, but that's because a lot of people are stupid. Toshiba and Acer are the only brands that consistently have the power socket on a separate board or attached by wire, but I'm not a huge fan of either brand other than the parts are usually cheaper. They are generally unremarkable laptops, though, nothing bold enough to be really great or really bad.

    Repairing lenovos is also fairly cheap. Aside from the logic board (no real analog I can price), I could probably fix the rest of the issues you mention in a Lenovo for under $200-$250, you could do it yourself under $100 with some moderate technical knowledge. All Apple products are a nightmare, though, the parts alone would probably cost you that much, plus the special tools, plus a few parts like wifi antennas that are almost guaranteed to get broken in the disassembly process. Most laptops are not built to be taken apart, but apples are built to not be taken apart. You can keep a Lenovo running until ebay runs out of parts, though, just a couple annoying pieces of tape to watch for in there.

    Hevach on
  • EsseeEssee The pinkest of hair. Victoria, BCRegistered User regular
    edited April 2013
    I've heard lately that ASUS is pretty much always your best bang-for-your-buck right now, and rather reliable, and from my recent shopping experience that seems to be true (the bang-for-your-buck part, obviously, since I only just bought mine). So I would recommend them at the moment. Absolutely stay away from HP because they're always a headache, and Toshiba (from what I've heard) is not very good at the moment either.

    Edit: Oh yeah, I WOULD recommend Sony since their laptops have really treated me fantastically over the years (including spilling liquids into one twice and having the thing still work), but you definitely need to find a refurb/open-box laptop from them because there's a major tax on the brand name.

    Essee on
  • DjeetDjeet Registered User regular
    Personally I like Lenovo's (mainly ThinkPads, but some of the consumer-level laptops too), ASUS, Toshiba and Sony (Apple too, but man replacement parts are expensive).

    The big PC brands (Lenovo, Dell, HP) have consumer and business lines. The business lines are usually built better and have some technologies (usually having to do with remote management/administration or security) not present on consumer lines, with a price premium. Think Edge line is really more a consumer line they've badge with Think to make it salable to SMB. The ones that seem best built are T-series, X-series, and W-series ThinkPads. Not sure if level of build quality is worth the premium, but I'd say T/X/W-series Lenovo's are on par with build quality of Apple MBP's.

    Also if doing photo-editing I'd want 1600x900 or 1080P for the display.

  • KharnastusKharnastus Registered User regular
    do you have to have a laptop? you could build a pretty killer desktop for that amount of money.

  • GafotoGafoto Registered User regular
    I don't necessarily NEED a laptop. Having an ipod touch and the fact that everything is accessible via the internet now makes it pretty non-critical. That being said, laptops sure are nice for wandering around with. For a halfway decent desktop running OS X what kind of hassle would I expect and how much would it cost? I last actually messed with computer parts about 10 years ago so it's been a bit.

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  • SentrySentry Registered User regular
    This is the laptop I was looking at before my department decided to get me a Surface Pro.
    http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-IdeaPad-15-6-Inch-Laptop-Metal/dp/B00ATANVLQ/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=19V1C4JCLU5FI&coliid=I8VM2ZZLJIT9M

    seems pretty amazing considering the specs and pricepoint. Just remember, it has a swapable drive, and it comes stock with two graphics cards, so no optical drive, but you can get the optical drive seperately and swap it out if you want, although why you would need to at this point... *shrug*

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  • DjeetDjeet Registered User regular
    Getting a base OSX install takes minimal effort, though you are likely breaking the EULA for OSX in doing so. So you have to visit forums that cater to that, finding the procedures on how to install, and involve yourself in obtaining files that facilitate such installation. Often many useful devices (Sound, LAN, WIFI, power management, system bus drivers, graphics hardware acceleration, etc) will not work.

    To get a hackintosh running with all the devices working and graphics acceleration (QE/CL) working from parts you just pick out yourself can be a considerable hassle and may not even be possible. If you really want to go down that path you find the resources where people have done it before, you pick hardware from those who've gotten that hardware working, you follow their procedures in getting the software installed (you'll need to obtain files they refer to, but elect not to distribute), and henceforth you run System Update at your own risk cause it can bork your machine.

    Personally it's not worth the time investment IMO. Maybe if someone had a post that said buy this, this and this (and they were parts I liked), and also posted complete instructions in how to get it working (along with support for future System Updates), and also posted any files I'd need to do the install, then maybe, but I'm not an OSX guy.

  • grendlegrendle Registered User regular
    edited April 2013
    "I want a macbook but it seems (from cursory browsing on newegg) that i could get a superior 15" notebook from lenovo for at least 300 bucks less."
    Well, maybe. Feature for feature comparisons and the importance of good design aside, most people buy a Mac for the software, and not having to deal with Windows. If you don't mind that, then Lenovo is a good option.

    grendle on
  • kaliyamakaliyama Left to find less-moderated fora Registered User regular
    The Lenovos or other PC laptops of comparable quality cost as much as or almost as much as the macbook air. If you like OSX and want to stick with it, i'd wait - it looks like both the MBA and MBP lines are due for an upgrade soon, per http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/. I currently have a 2010 MBA and I'm going to give it a month or so post-release to see if the post-Jobs Apple can deliver the same quality they have been previously, and then decide if I go Mac or PC for my next gen.

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  • GaslightGaslight Registered User regular
    grendle wrote: »
    "I want a macbook but it seems (from cursory browsing on newegg) that i could get a superior 15" notebook from lenovo for at least 300 bucks less."
    Well, maybe. Feature for feature comparisons and the importance of good design aside, most people buy a Mac for the software, and not having to deal with Windows. If you don't mind that, then Lenovo is a good option.

    Windows and OSX have converged so much that there's very little to choose between them in terms of actual functionality (at least with Windows 7 as the comparison point - Win8 is a different ball game) and most people who don't want to "have to deal with Windows" haven't used a version of Windows since XP or 98.

  • schussschuss Registered User regular
    Don't buy an HP. Even their business line is fraught with failures (we run through a ton).

  • Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    Considering photoshop works just as well on Windows as it does on a Mac, why not save some cash and get a nice aluminium unibody Wintel laptop? For instance, to get a non-retina Pro with the same specs as this laptop costs $660 more.

  • HevachHevach Registered User regular
    schuss wrote: »
    Don't buy an HP. Even their business line is fraught with failures (we run through a ton).

    From what I've seen the business lines are even worse for the blinking capslock of death. I've never been able to figure out if it's overheating or what, and HP's silent on the issue, but it seems the higher end they are, the faster they eat their motherboards.

  • grendlegrendle Registered User regular
    Gaslight wrote: »
    grendle wrote: »
    "I want a macbook but it seems (from cursory browsing on newegg) that i could get a superior 15" notebook from lenovo for at least 300 bucks less."
    Well, maybe. Feature for feature comparisons and the importance of good design aside, most people buy a Mac for the software, and not having to deal with Windows. If you don't mind that, then Lenovo is a good option.

    Windows and OSX have converged so much that there's very little to choose between them in terms of actual functionality (at least with Windows 7 as the comparison point - Win8 is a different ball game) and most people who don't want to "have to deal with Windows" haven't used a version of Windows since XP or 98.

    I disagree. Yes, Windows has got a lot more like OSX, and a lot better in recent iterations, I use both on a daily basis, and have done since Win95 and System 7. I still wouldn't have a personal laptop with Win 7 on it, although the margin has closed since Win ME. It's a personal thing though, I know some people who love Windows, and that's ok. I was just pointing out that the reason a lot of people buy a macbook is not addressed by feature for feature value comparisons, it's for OSX.

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