Dragon Age Thread - In Anders we Trust
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Hello and welcome to the World of Thedas!
Thedas is bounded to the east is the Amaranthine Ocean, to the west by the Tirashan and the Hunterhorn Mountains, to the south by the snowy wastes that lie beyond the Korcari Wilds, and to the north by the Donarks.
The word "Thedas" is Tevinter in origin, originally used to refer to lands that bordered the Imperium. As the Imperium lost its stranglehold on conquered nations, more and more lands became Thedas, until finally the name came to apply to the entire continent.
The northern part of Thedas is divided amongst the Anderfels, the Tevinter Imperium, Antiva, and Rivain, with the islands of Par Vollen and Seheron held by the Qunari just off the coast. Central Thedas consists of the vast stretch of city-states known as the Free Marches, as well as the nations of Nevarra and Orlais, with Ferelden to the southeast.
What lies beyond the snowy wastes of the south is a mystery. The freezing temperatures and barren land have kept even the most intrepid cartographers at bay. Similarly, the far western reaches of the Anderfels have never been fully explored, even by the Anders themselves. We do not know if the dry steppes are shadowed by mountains, or if they extend all the way to a nameless sea.
There must be other lands, continents, or islands, perhaps across the Amaranthine or north of Par Vollen, for the Qunari arrived in Thedas from somewhere, but beyond that deduction we know nothing. The idea that "the world" consists solely of the lands we know about will one day be disproved, and no doubt much to our collective dismay.
--From In Pursuit of Knowledge: The Travels of a Chantry Scholar, by Brother Genitivi.
However, not all is happy in this fantasy world.
There are blights I guess
And evil Qunari perhaps
But who cares about those, the real problem is the brutal oppression of Mages in Thedas!
You see, mages are awesome
They were so hardcore that they got together and decided to chill in the house of the Maker himself. Whoa! Rad!
That didn't go completely according to plan though.
See also the aforementioned blights. It kinda went downhill for the mages since then.
There were other factors too, involving the general evilness of the Tevinter Magisters, and the fact that mages are more prone to be victims to demonic possession
Being the victim blamers that they are, the dogmatic Chantry, and their oppressive regime of Templars, decided to oppress all mages and lock them up in glorified prisons. If you disobeyed, if you desired freedom, you were hunted down and purged. Oh they also had a fun ritual turning mages into mindless slave drones called Tranquils.
This is the face of the foul oppressor, our enemy:
@Pharezon
@Mild Confusion
@-Tal
This oppression continued for many ages, and mages forgot what freedom even was.
Only one man had the courage to stand up for mages, to stand up for what was right.
His name was Anders
DA2 spoilers:
He saw the oppression of the mages, the brutality of the Chantry, and he said: "No more."
To many mages, he became a symbol of Justice.
Some say the Champion tried to stop him
But it's irrelevant. What is known is that Anders broke the shackles of Mages everywhere, and that the Champion of Kirwall aided him in his noble goal, standing up for mages wherever he could.
It is thanks to Anders, and Hawke, that we now stand on the dawn of a new world. A better world, where mages can be free from oppression.
Vive la Mage revolucíon!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=5QvE6iITFQk#t=32s
*At around 32 seconds in*
*At around 32 seconds in*
To many mages, he became a symbol of Justice.
Some say the Champion tried to stop him
But it's irrelevant. What is known is that Anders broke the shackles of Mages everywhere, and that the Champion of Kirwall aided him in his noble goal, standing up for mages wherever he could.
It is thanks to Anders, and Hawke, that we now stand on the dawn of a new world. A better world, where mages can be free from oppression.
Vive la Mage revolucíon!
This of course brings us to:
It takes place in Orlais!
Wow! Have some more concept art!
Dragon Age III will be set in Thedas, the fantasy world in which the two previous games are set. The game will cover more geographic territory than its predecessors, with one map being described as four to five times the size of Ferelden, the setting of the first game in the series. The developers said that the next game would likely be somewhere more "French", which fans recognize as the land of Orlais. Following the events described in the supplementary novel Dragon Age: Asunder, a civil war between the loyalists of the ruling Empress and a powerful noble faction broke out in Orlais. Simultaneously,the Circle of Magi has gone rogue, in part due to the events of Dragon Age II, and the Templar Order seceded from the Chantry to wage their own civil war on the mages.
Creative Director Mike Laidlaw confirmed that the overall plot of Dragon Age III will be "saving the world from itself".It will primarily involve an all-out civil war between mages and templars, the foundations of which comprise the main plot of Dragon Age II.
There will be no more re-used environments, and they're talking about taking the best of both Dragon Age: Origins and Dragon Age 2. It will be released somewhere in 2013. That means they're taking their time with this one.
Basically, Dragon Age III: Inquisition will be awesome.
Much like the Mages which we must all aid in this new setting!
I expect you all to do your part.
Remember the mage who made this all possible. Never forget the brave and handsome liberator.
In Anders we trust
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I'm not going to lie. I laughed out loud.
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continued from the last thread: Well she's a bit bitchy...but she doesn't really do anything evil, she'll go along with a lot of evil things a PC can do...but so do a lot of companions.
And reposting: any debate kind of impossible. I was going to bring up that a large portion of templars were abducting and making mages tranquil and it was heavily implied that the head of that movement was using the female tranquils as his own harem earlier but..."the veils thin it effects everyone...because mages did it" is an answer all response really.
take me now Jesus I'm ready
That doesn't say that blood magic inherently weakens the veil, only that it can be used to open the veil completely. That almost certainly involves death and mayhem, as when the Tevinter slaughtered a ton of slaves to open the way to the Fade, but I don't think there's much of a case that any use weakens the veil so much as blood magic opens up new and exciting ways to open the veil.
- letting an entire town be killed by zombies
- letting the Dalish be slaughtered by werewolves
- letting a crazy woman turn dwarves into golems
edit: and then she descends into full on hypocrisy with her personal quest.
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I went against every one of these
But when you phrase them this way it sounds kind of awesome?
I'm just saying she doesn't do those things unless you do it. She also doesn't do any of the things flemeth is known for but you don't seem to mind her being on the list.
- Keep the Warden Treaties safe
- Save the Warden and Alistair's life
- Save Hawke, Leandra, Bethany/Carver, and Aveline
- Prevent Wesley from becoming a ghoul
She's accused of some things, by Morrigan. Who is terrible.
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Anyway this is it
Let's all talk about how rad mages are
From the last thread:
Well, yeah, but the intrinsic value of a murder is evil. Which weakens the Veil.
Lyrium is an inannimate object with no opinion on the matter and is simply following its natural laws. (Though I can find no entries that states lyrium weakens the Veil through natural law).
Blood magic is being debated as neither good nor evil, which is true. The catch is that it also follows certain natural laws, which dictate that it weakens the Veil and can tear it. So while the users intentions can be good, it still does bad things to the world and the consequences can be felt by others.
You need an emergency heal a person on the brink of death? Using blood magic can save them, which is a good thing, but now you just made it easier for a Hunger demon to possess a corpse or some spiders.
I'm not seeing much on lyrium being used to weaken the Veil, just that it allows mages to enter the Fade while awake. Blood magic is what's used to weaken and tear it.
Don't forget that a shit load of dwarves died in all those Thaigs, so that's probably why the Veil is so weak in the deep roads.
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except maybe give birth to morrigan
And send her with the Warden, but shit I can't blame her for that. I'd want to get rid of her too.
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-Helping end the blight
-Helping in any of the good things the pc can do with at worse a sarcastic complaint - and that's important the game does allow companions to rebel against you if they really disagree with you.
You don't get to be an old witch and then act coy about whether or not you're a baby-eating maleficarum, not when you're talking to a 5'1 lady elf from the mean streets who eats dragons for breakfast
Which sounds pretty terrible to me.
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because basically half the fun of DA:O is pushing Alistair into doing things he is not comfortable with
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Her first suggestion is to go to Denerim and have all three of you kill Loghain. Smart plan, a fortified capital with Templars and thousands of soldiers. Shut up Morrigan and turn into a usless spider again.
Her plan to abandon Redcliff is stupid too. Armies are more than swords Morrigan! You need to have logistics too! So people to cook, blacksmiths to repair armor, messengers, tailors, ect Logistics are just as important to an army as men to hold swords, you stupid Morrigan!
What's that Morrigan? We should leave the Circle mages to their fate, because they were too weak to free themselves from the Templars? You're right, leave the weak to suffer. Might makes right, after all. What's that? I can't hear you over the sound of you begging for help against Flemeth. Something else? You're too weak to actually help with the confrontation? Oh no! That's doesn't make you a hypocrite at all.
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Depends what she intends, the only inkling you get is she wants to preserve the high dragon it once was. Personally suspect it'll end up being a kind of mage messiah that descends upon the conflict on thedas for good or ill depending on the PC if we hear about it at all.
And if you're at all friendly or a love interest of hers I got the impression she suggested it primarily to save your life. to each there own I guess, I disagree that she's evil. And I certainly disagree that flemeth is good, flemeth is out for her own survival and power and if that happens to co-incide with the betterment of thedas it's more coincidence then anything.
I mean we hear from morrigan that she takes men into her bed and consumes there life essence like a black widow. And we read in her own hand that she has had daughters in the past who's bodys shes taken.
I liked her character arc quite a bit
She said I was the only friend she had ever had, and my ice cold elvish heart melted a little
They could have made her better if she wasn't immune to the Guardian and the Fade illusion. Those two exclusions kinda ruined her for me.
Plus, she's a stupid asshole.
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The Guardian question.... you guys didn't see that as foreshadowing? I did. She didn't even let the Guardian name what she was.
They'veoversold the intrusive of orlais so well I just don't see how their writing is going to be able to keep up to it
Spoit I know that deep down in your heart you're capable of something other than negativity
You just gotta believe man
Dragon Age III will be glorious and Orlais will be great
Did you ever play the Mark of the Assassin DLC? It goes into the political intrigue of Orlais a bit, and the interaction with poshy nobles was pretty hilarious. It seems like a DLC you could base a few expectations on.
They did on XBL a couple of months ago :whistle:
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The best part is giving her crap over the suggestions, because she points out, "Hey, it's an option. It doesn't mean its the best, but this is something you could do."
Yes, yes!
You're an example to us all
Then Fenris started talking and I swooned all over again.
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Well, she's spent the last few centuries luring manly men to their doom so she can steal their precious bodily fluids in order to grow herself new daughter bodies, no?
That seems kind of bad.
Morrigan is probably worse, though. Even so, I love her. Claudia Black's voice acting for her is amazing.
And, personally, "Trust me" isn't really enough evidence when it's coming from someone who talks about how much fun it is to lie to and manipulate people.
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