I don't know where I'd find the time (huge steam backlog + Wii U)...but I'm wondering if I should attempt to play Baldur's Gate and see if I "get" Spoit.
Everything about Dragon Age 3 looks amazing except that it looks like a much prettier Skyrim and not a new Dragon Age game. The DA series, despite the extremely generic setting, has a very unique personality and I'm not seeing it in any of these videos. If I didn't know already, I'd think this a new IP, or even worse, a next-gen tech demo that wasn't getting made into a game. I hope we see some charm and personality soon.
And you may be right, Spaffy. But one thing I'm loving about DA3 more than any elder scrolls game I've played is that DA3 characters have weight in the world. It was talked about in the Wildfire MMO thread, but the characters feel like they belong in the world. You can almost feel them actually cut through a guy from hem to haw. In any elder scrolls game, I've felt like any other disembodied head in an FPS, and most of the characters just glide along the ground even with the walking animations.
A million times this. Skyrim and Oblivion were fucking theme parks because Bethesda doesn't care or know how to actually write. They build marvelous sandboxes but then fail utterly at anything related to narrative or character. Skyrim is regarded as great just because of the staggering beauty of its open world, but deep down its completely hollow.
Everything about Dragon Age 3 looks amazing except that it looks like a much prettier Skyrim and not a new Dragon Age game. The DA series, despite the extremely generic setting, has a very unique personality and I'm not seeing it in any of these videos. If I didn't know already, I'd think this a new IP, or even worse, a next-gen tech demo that wasn't getting made into a game. I hope we see some charm and personality soon.
And you may be right, Spaffy. But one thing I'm loving about DA3 more than any elder scrolls game I've played is that DA3 characters have weight in the world. It was talked about in the Wildfire MMO thread, but the characters feel like they belong in the world. You can almost feel them actually cut through a guy from hem to haw. In any elder scrolls game, I've felt like any other disembodied head in an FPS, and most of the characters just glide along the ground even with the walking animations.
A million times this. Skyrim and Oblivion were fucking theme parks because Bethesda doesn't care or know how to actually write. They build marvelous sandboxes but then fail utterly at anything related to narrative or character. Skyrim is regarded as great just because of the staggering beauty of its open world, but deep down its completely hollow.
I will gladly argue with you that both mechanically and from a narrative perspective, Skyrim is the superior game to Dragon Age 2.
I'd include art in the competition but "Dragon Age 2 (dungeons!)".
I don't know where I'd find the time (huge steam backlog + Wii U)...but I'm wondering if I should attempt to play Baldur's Gate and see if I "get" Spoit.
Play planescape torment instead. Or BG2. BG1's low level AD&D combat is....not really all that fun. And the story isn't really anything to write home about either
Everything about Dragon Age 3 looks amazing except that it looks like a much prettier Skyrim and not a new Dragon Age game. The DA series, despite the extremely generic setting, has a very unique personality and I'm not seeing it in any of these videos. If I didn't know already, I'd think this a new IP, or even worse, a next-gen tech demo that wasn't getting made into a game. I hope we see some charm and personality soon.
And you may be right, Spaffy. But one thing I'm loving about DA3 more than any elder scrolls game I've played is that DA3 characters have weight in the world. It was talked about in the Wildfire MMO thread, but the characters feel like they belong in the world. You can almost feel them actually cut through a guy from hem to haw. In any elder scrolls game, I've felt like any other disembodied head in an FPS, and most of the characters just glide along the ground even with the walking animations.
A million times this. Skyrim and Oblivion were fucking theme parks because Bethesda doesn't care or know how to actually write. They build marvelous sandboxes but then fail utterly at anything related to narrative or character. Skyrim is regarded as great just because of the staggering beauty of its open world, but deep down its completely hollow.
I will gladly argue with you that both mechanically and from a narrative perspective, Skyrim is the superior game to Dragon Age 2.
I'd include art in the competition but "Dragon Age 2 (dungeons!)".
I'd agree with that. When I think Dragon Age, I think DA1 and Awakening. DA2 was an embarrassment, it's only saving grace were a handful of the characters like Varic and the main guy. The combat was alright. The thing is that even a bad Bioware character is still at least more interesting and memorable than any character Bethesda has done since Morrowind. A lot of people fucking hated the way Anders was written (for good reason) in DA2, but at least they were talking about him. No one talks about Bethesda characters outside of some chatter about the dark brotherhood for maybe a month or two after Skyrim/Oblivion's respective releases.
its pretty bad when the most notable person in Oblivion was Springheel Jak, and only because of his shoes. A friend made a character that was able to take the fall damage without the shoes, and so he was able to jump over every house and roof in Oblivion screaming "I AM SPRINGHEEL JAK!"
Everything about Dragon Age 3 looks amazing except that it looks like a much prettier Skyrim and not a new Dragon Age game. The DA series, despite the extremely generic setting, has a very unique personality and I'm not seeing it in any of these videos. If I didn't know already, I'd think this a new IP, or even worse, a next-gen tech demo that wasn't getting made into a game. I hope we see some charm and personality soon.
And you may be right, Spaffy. But one thing I'm loving about DA3 more than any elder scrolls game I've played is that DA3 characters have weight in the world. It was talked about in the Wildfire MMO thread, but the characters feel like they belong in the world. You can almost feel them actually cut through a guy from hem to haw. In any elder scrolls game, I've felt like any other disembodied head in an FPS, and most of the characters just glide along the ground even with the walking animations.
A million times this. Skyrim and Oblivion were fucking theme parks because Bethesda doesn't care or know how to actually write. They build marvelous sandboxes but then fail utterly at anything related to narrative or character. Skyrim is regarded as great just because of the staggering beauty of its open world, but deep down its completely hollow.
Everything about Dragon Age 3 looks amazing except that it looks like a much prettier Skyrim and not a new Dragon Age game. The DA series, despite the extremely generic setting, has a very unique personality and I'm not seeing it in any of these videos. If I didn't know already, I'd think this a new IP, or even worse, a next-gen tech demo that wasn't getting made into a game. I hope we see some charm and personality soon.
And you may be right, Spaffy. But one thing I'm loving about DA3 more than any elder scrolls game I've played is that DA3 characters have weight in the world. It was talked about in the Wildfire MMO thread, but the characters feel like they belong in the world. You can almost feel them actually cut through a guy from hem to haw. In any elder scrolls game, I've felt like any other disembodied head in an FPS, and most of the characters just glide along the ground even with the walking animations.
A million times this. Skyrim and Oblivion were fucking theme parks because Bethesda doesn't care or know how to actually write. They build marvelous sandboxes but then fail utterly at anything related to narrative or character. Skyrim is regarded as great just because of the staggering beauty of its open world, but deep down its completely hollow.
I will gladly argue with you that both mechanically and from a narrative perspective, Skyrim is the superior game to Dragon Age 2.
I'd include art in the competition but "Dragon Age 2 (dungeons!)".
I also agree. Skyrim has enormous depth in its world that as a consequence of the size the plot gets entirely lost in. Some of its side quests are very good and equal to anything in DA2. Frankly dungeon and meaningful exploration wise? No comparison.
If Bioware wants to make DA Skyrim edition with their more meaningful narrative focus with a world worth exploring like Skyrim, I am already in.
Everything about Dragon Age 3 looks amazing except that it looks like a much prettier Skyrim and not a new Dragon Age game. The DA series, despite the extremely generic setting, has a very unique personality and I'm not seeing it in any of these videos. If I didn't know already, I'd think this a new IP, or even worse, a next-gen tech demo that wasn't getting made into a game. I hope we see some charm and personality soon.
And you may be right, Spaffy. But one thing I'm loving about DA3 more than any elder scrolls game I've played is that DA3 characters have weight in the world. It was talked about in the Wildfire MMO thread, but the characters feel like they belong in the world. You can almost feel them actually cut through a guy from hem to haw. In any elder scrolls game, I've felt like any other disembodied head in an FPS, and most of the characters just glide along the ground even with the walking animations.
A million times this. Skyrim and Oblivion were fucking theme parks because Bethesda doesn't care or know how to actually write. They build marvelous sandboxes but then fail utterly at anything related to narrative or character. Skyrim is regarded as great just because of the staggering beauty of its open world, but deep down its completely hollow.
I will gladly argue with you that both mechanically and from a narrative perspective, Skyrim is the superior game to Dragon Age 2.
I'd include art in the competition but "Dragon Age 2 (dungeons!)".
I'd agree with that. When I think Dragon Age, I think DA1 and Awakening. DA2 was an embarrassment, it's only saving grace were a handful of the characters like Varic and the main guy.
Nah
Dragon Age 2 was a pretty fun game with a really good cast
It's great that you can finally call him out after the climax, but he still suffers from major TIM-syndrome, where you can barely say a word before hand about how crazy he's being, and how he should really see someone about the whole, you know, justice thing
It's great that you can finally call him out after the climax, but he still suffers from major TIM-syndrome, where you can barely say a word before hand about how crazy he's being, and how he should really see someone about the whole, you know, justice thing
But... You can?
You can confront him about it every time it comes up
You can kick him out of your party after he almost kills the Mage girl as Justice in the Tranquility final solution quest
If you romance him, you can confront him directly about it too, almost convince him, but then Justice takes over. You can end your relationship with him over it.
Like, you can already get in his face about it and even break off all contact with him over it in Act 2. That's a lot more than we got with TIM. What more do you want?
It's great that you can finally call him out after the climax, but he still suffers from major TIM-syndrome, where you can barely say a word before hand about how crazy he's being, and how he should really see someone about the whole, you know, justice thing
But... You can?
You can confront him about it every time it comes up
You can kick him out of your party after he almost kills the Mage girl as Justice in the Tranquility final solution quest
If you romance him, you can confront him directly about it too, almost convince him, but then Justice takes over. You can end your relationship with him over it.
Like, you can already get in his face about it and even break off all contact with him over it in Act 2. That's a lot more than we got with TIM. What more do you want?
A song and dance number! Also, an after school special over why being an abomination is bad.
Yeah, Anders as a character in DA2 is rather well written.
People make the mistake of thinking that a character they don't like is a badly written character, but that's just not the truth. People don't like Anders because of what his character does, not how he was written, but they can't separate the two.
Anders is consistent in his motivation and goals. If I had to point out the worst flaw in Anders writing, it's the lack of transition from his character in DA:A to basically an entirely new character in DA:2. The only issue with that complaint is that you'd had to actually played to DA:A to understand it.
If I had to pick the worst part of DA2's writing that's intrinsic to the game, it sure as hell isn't the characters (aside from Orsino, but only when you side with the mages), it's the Red Idol.
The rest is rather solid.
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Except for that dropped thread about getting his shit separated from Justice, which Hawke just forgot about
That irked me I gotta admit
When I played the game I didn't consider it a dropped thread at all - it was Anders telling Hawke what he thought Hawke wanted to hear, in order to get help with a scheme for which he knew Hawke would not approve.
Except for that dropped thread about getting his shit separated from Justice, which Hawke just forgot about
That irked me I gotta admit
When I played the game I didn't consider it a dropped thread at all - it was Anders telling Hawke what he thought Hawke wanted to hear, in order to get help with a scheme for which he knew Hawke would not approve.
That's an interesting take on it that explains things entirely too well.
Except for that dropped thread about getting his shit separated from Justice, which Hawke just forgot about
That irked me I gotta admit
When I played the game I didn't consider it a dropped thread at all - it was Anders telling Hawke what he thought Hawke wanted to hear, in order to get help with a scheme for which he knew Hawke would not approve.
While it's definitely true that that's how Anders leveraged it, it still stands that Hawke completely forgets about it for years afterward
Everything about Dragon Age 3 looks amazing except that it looks like a much prettier Skyrim and not a new Dragon Age game. The DA series, despite the extremely generic setting, has a very unique personality and I'm not seeing it in any of these videos. If I didn't know already, I'd think this a new IP, or even worse, a next-gen tech demo that wasn't getting made into a game. I hope we see some charm and personality soon.
And you may be right, Spaffy. But one thing I'm loving about DA3 more than any elder scrolls game I've played is that DA3 characters have weight in the world. It was talked about in the Wildfire MMO thread, but the characters feel like they belong in the world. You can almost feel them actually cut through a guy from hem to haw. In any elder scrolls game, I've felt like any other disembodied head in an FPS, and most of the characters just glide along the ground even with the walking animations.
A million times this. Skyrim and Oblivion were fucking theme parks because Bethesda doesn't care or know how to actually write. They build marvelous sandboxes but then fail utterly at anything related to narrative or character. Skyrim is regarded as great just because of the staggering beauty of its open world, but deep down its completely hollow.
I will gladly argue with you that both mechanically and from a narrative perspective, Skyrim is the superior game to Dragon Age 2.
I'd include art in the competition but "Dragon Age 2 (dungeons!)".
I'd agree with that. When I think Dragon Age, I think DA1 and Awakening. DA2 was an embarrassment, it's only saving grace were a handful of the characters like Varic and the main guy.
Nah
Dragon Age 2 was a pretty fun game with a really good cast
Re-using assets constantly, boring enemy waves, and contrived bullshit in the climax was more than enough to sink the game. It was basically insulting for EA to charge $60 for something so lazily put together.
Except for that dropped thread about getting his shit separated from Justice, which Hawke just forgot about
That irked me I gotta admit
When I played the game I didn't consider it a dropped thread at all - it was Anders telling Hawke what he thought Hawke wanted to hear, in order to get help with a scheme for which he knew Hawke would not approve.
While it's definitely true that that's how Anders leveraged it, it still stands that Hawke completely forgets about it for years afterward
I thought all of this happened in the same act...?
Except for that dropped thread about getting his shit separated from Justice, which Hawke just forgot about
That irked me I gotta admit
When I played the game I didn't consider it a dropped thread at all - it was Anders telling Hawke what he thought Hawke wanted to hear, in order to get help with a scheme for which he knew Hawke would not approve.
While it's definitely true that that's how Anders leveraged it, it still stands that Hawke completely forgets about it for years afterward
I thought all of this happened in the same act...?
Yeah, it was all act 3, there weren't any long stretches of time in between.
Everything about Dragon Age 3 looks amazing except that it looks like a much prettier Skyrim and not a new Dragon Age game. The DA series, despite the extremely generic setting, has a very unique personality and I'm not seeing it in any of these videos. If I didn't know already, I'd think this a new IP, or even worse, a next-gen tech demo that wasn't getting made into a game. I hope we see some charm and personality soon.
And you may be right, Spaffy. But one thing I'm loving about DA3 more than any elder scrolls game I've played is that DA3 characters have weight in the world. It was talked about in the Wildfire MMO thread, but the characters feel like they belong in the world. You can almost feel them actually cut through a guy from hem to haw. In any elder scrolls game, I've felt like any other disembodied head in an FPS, and most of the characters just glide along the ground even with the walking animations.
A million times this. Skyrim and Oblivion were fucking theme parks because Bethesda doesn't care or know how to actually write. They build marvelous sandboxes but then fail utterly at anything related to narrative or character. Skyrim is regarded as great just because of the staggering beauty of its open world, but deep down its completely hollow.
I will gladly argue with you that both mechanically and from a narrative perspective, Skyrim is the superior game to Dragon Age 2.
I'd include art in the competition but "Dragon Age 2 (dungeons!)".
I'd agree with that. When I think Dragon Age, I think DA1 and Awakening. DA2 was an embarrassment, it's only saving grace were a handful of the characters like Varic and the main guy.
Nah
Dragon Age 2 was a pretty fun game with a really good cast
Re-using assets constantly, boring enemy waves, and contrived bullshit in the climax was more than enough to sink the game. It was basically insulting for EA to charge $60 for something so lazily put together.
Nah. It's a great game with great characters and solid (character) plots. Gameplay was fun and dynamic! Dialogue was good, and great if you went sarcastic.
The re-using of assets is definitely a big a flaw. Enemy waves are a tiny flaw. I thought the ending in general was fantastic but I strongly disliked the double boss battle no matter what.
I enjoyed and replayed DA2 much more than DA: Origins so I certainly got my money's worth out of it.
I mean, I agree that the flaws you name are in the game. DA2 could've benefited a lot from some extra development time. I'm just continuously surprised when that completely ruins the game for someone when there's so many positives to enjoy.
Either way, DA:I has a lot more development time and looks awesome.
Thing is, not everyone sees those as positives. But we've had these arguements so many times, and neither side is going to budge, so can we just agree that DAI looks very nice, and leave it at that?
Everything about Dragon Age 3 looks amazing except that it looks like a much prettier Skyrim and not a new Dragon Age game. The DA series, despite the extremely generic setting, has a very unique personality and I'm not seeing it in any of these videos. If I didn't know already, I'd think this a new IP, or even worse, a next-gen tech demo that wasn't getting made into a game. I hope we see some charm and personality soon.
And you may be right, Spaffy. But one thing I'm loving about DA3 more than any elder scrolls game I've played is that DA3 characters have weight in the world. It was talked about in the Wildfire MMO thread, but the characters feel like they belong in the world. You can almost feel them actually cut through a guy from hem to haw. In any elder scrolls game, I've felt like any other disembodied head in an FPS, and most of the characters just glide along the ground even with the walking animations.
A million times this. Skyrim and Oblivion were fucking theme parks because Bethesda doesn't care or know how to actually write. They build marvelous sandboxes but then fail utterly at anything related to narrative or character. Skyrim is regarded as great just because of the staggering beauty of its open world, but deep down its completely hollow.
I will gladly argue with you that both mechanically and from a narrative perspective, Skyrim is the superior game to Dragon Age 2.
I'd include art in the competition but "Dragon Age 2 (dungeons!)".
I'd agree with that. When I think Dragon Age, I think DA1 and Awakening. DA2 was an embarrassment, it's only saving grace were a handful of the characters like Varic and the main guy.
Nah
Dragon Age 2 was a pretty fun game with a really good cast
Re-using assets constantly, boring enemy waves, and contrived bullshit in the climax was more than enough to sink the game. It was basically insulting for EA to charge $60 for something so lazily put together.
Nah. It's a great game with great characters and solid (character) plots. Gameplay was fun and dynamic! Dialogue was good, and great if you went sarcastic.
The re-using of assets is definitely a big a flaw. Enemy waves are a tiny flaw. I thought the ending in general was fantastic but I strongly disliked the double boss battle no matter what.
I enjoyed and replayed DA2 much more than DA: Origins so I certainly got my money's worth out of it.
I mean, I agree that the flaws you name are in the game. DA2 could've benefited a lot from some extra development time. I'm just continuously surprised when that completely ruins the game for someone when there's so many positives to enjoy.
Either way, DA:I has a lot more development time and looks awesome.
So your defense is "Nah. It was great."? Ok. And my enjoyment wasn't exactly ruined, but DA2 was a transparent cash grab and I felt as if the developers were laughing at me as I played purely due to the abysmal lack of effort with dungeons and the campaign as a whole. They just cycled maybe 4 different unique dungeons over and over, and the art style that created them was uninspired. The campaign was basically episodic and only interesting in the middle, all of it punctuated by the exact same fights over and over. I don't recall them being dynamic. It felt like a bargain basement game, $30 would have been fair. Not $60.
If nothing else, I can't wait for DA3's release so that we have less people repeating "DA2 was [good/bad]."
Bad news sucka
I'm gonna say DA2 was a pretty fun game forever
Everyone can be right on this one. DA2 was what would have happened to any great game if the studio had come in a year before it was done and gone "Ship it now!"
Everything about Dragon Age 3 looks amazing except that it looks like a much prettier Skyrim and not a new Dragon Age game. The DA series, despite the extremely generic setting, has a very unique personality and I'm not seeing it in any of these videos. If I didn't know already, I'd think this a new IP, or even worse, a next-gen tech demo that wasn't getting made into a game. I hope we see some charm and personality soon.
And you may be right, Spaffy. But one thing I'm loving about DA3 more than any elder scrolls game I've played is that DA3 characters have weight in the world. It was talked about in the Wildfire MMO thread, but the characters feel like they belong in the world. You can almost feel them actually cut through a guy from hem to haw. In any elder scrolls game, I've felt like any other disembodied head in an FPS, and most of the characters just glide along the ground even with the walking animations.
A million times this. Skyrim and Oblivion were fucking theme parks because Bethesda doesn't care or know how to actually write. They build marvelous sandboxes but then fail utterly at anything related to narrative or character. Skyrim is regarded as great just because of the staggering beauty of its open world, but deep down its completely hollow.
I will gladly argue with you that both mechanically and from a narrative perspective, Skyrim is the superior game to Dragon Age 2.
I'd include art in the competition but "Dragon Age 2 (dungeons!)".
I'd agree with that. When I think Dragon Age, I think DA1 and Awakening. DA2 was an embarrassment, it's only saving grace were a handful of the characters like Varic and the main guy.
Nah
Dragon Age 2 was a pretty fun game with a really good cast
Re-using assets constantly, boring enemy waves, and contrived bullshit in the climax was more than enough to sink the game. It was basically insulting for EA to charge $60 for something so lazily put together.
Nah. It's a great game with great characters and solid (character) plots. Gameplay was fun and dynamic! Dialogue was good, and great if you went sarcastic.
The re-using of assets is definitely a big a flaw. Enemy waves are a tiny flaw. I thought the ending in general was fantastic but I strongly disliked the double boss battle no matter what.
I enjoyed and replayed DA2 much more than DA: Origins so I certainly got my money's worth out of it.
I mean, I agree that the flaws you name are in the game. DA2 could've benefited a lot from some extra development time. I'm just continuously surprised when that completely ruins the game for someone when there's so many positives to enjoy.
Either way, DA:I has a lot more development time and looks awesome.
So your defense is "Nah. It was great."? Ok. And my enjoyment wasn't exactly ruined, but DA2 was a transparent cash grab and I felt as if the developers were laughing at me as I played purely due to the abysmal lack of effort with dungeons and the campaign as a whole. They just cycled maybe 4 different unique dungeons over and over, and the art style that created them was uninspired. The campaign was basically episodic and only interesting in the middle, all of it punctuated by the exact same fights over and over. I don't recall them being dynamic. It felt like a bargain basement game, $30 would have been fair. Not $60.
Maybe if you keep telling people they're wrong by recycling negative points we've already seen before you'll be able to prove your point as effectively as you believe it to be.
If nothing else, I can't wait for DA3's release so that we have less people repeating "DA2 was [good/bad]."
Bad news sucka
I'm gonna say DA2 was a pretty fun game forever
Everyone can be right on this one. DA2 was what would have happened to any great game if the studio had come in a year before it was done and gone "Ship it now!"
Picked up DA:O on steam super sale. A few hours in and while I'm not crazy about the combat, I'm enjoying the story/characters so far. Just got through the Joining, which was a great holy shit moment. I'm assuming there'll be a lot more of those.
Quick question - are there any/any good PC tweaks for this to make the game maybe a little prettier? Not sure if there's a mod scene for this.
I like the Awakening in Origins mod. It just lets you use all the combat and talent/ability improvements made in Awakening to be used in Origins. Makes the combat a bit less boring.
The respec mod is almost a necessity, since the game likes to auto-level your companions before you acquire them.
The white teeth mod gets rid of that godawful shit stained mouths that all the characters have.
None are really needed though. DA mods are rather limited in what they can do.
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Just with more exploration built in
Yeah it looks like Dragon Age to me, just prettier and more of it, both of which I approve.
A million times this. Skyrim and Oblivion were fucking theme parks because Bethesda doesn't care or know how to actually write. They build marvelous sandboxes but then fail utterly at anything related to narrative or character. Skyrim is regarded as great just because of the staggering beauty of its open world, but deep down its completely hollow.
I'd include art in the competition but "Dragon Age 2 (dungeons!)".
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Play planescape torment instead. Or BG2. BG1's low level AD&D combat is....not really all that fun. And the story isn't really anything to write home about either
I'd agree with that. When I think Dragon Age, I think DA1 and Awakening. DA2 was an embarrassment, it's only saving grace were a handful of the characters like Varic and the main guy. The combat was alright. The thing is that even a bad Bioware character is still at least more interesting and memorable than any character Bethesda has done since Morrowind. A lot of people fucking hated the way Anders was written (for good reason) in DA2, but at least they were talking about him. No one talks about Bethesda characters outside of some chatter about the dark brotherhood for maybe a month or two after Skyrim/Oblivion's respective releases.
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I also agree. Skyrim has enormous depth in its world that as a consequence of the size the plot gets entirely lost in. Some of its side quests are very good and equal to anything in DA2. Frankly dungeon and meaningful exploration wise? No comparison.
If Bioware wants to make DA Skyrim edition with their more meaningful narrative focus with a world worth exploring like Skyrim, I am already in.
Nah
Dragon Age 2 was a pretty fun game with a really good cast
Also, anders.
Except for that dropped thread about getting his shit separated from Justice, which Hawke just forgot about
That irked me I gotta admit
But... You can?
You can confront him about it every time it comes up
You can kick him out of your party after he almost kills the Mage girl as Justice in the Tranquility final solution quest
If you romance him, you can confront him directly about it too, almost convince him, but then Justice takes over. You can end your relationship with him over it.
Like, you can already get in his face about it and even break off all contact with him over it in Act 2. That's a lot more than we got with TIM. What more do you want?
A song and dance number! Also, an after school special over why being an abomination is bad.
People make the mistake of thinking that a character they don't like is a badly written character, but that's just not the truth. People don't like Anders because of what his character does, not how he was written, but they can't separate the two.
Anders is consistent in his motivation and goals. If I had to point out the worst flaw in Anders writing, it's the lack of transition from his character in DA:A to basically an entirely new character in DA:2. The only issue with that complaint is that you'd had to actually played to DA:A to understand it.
If I had to pick the worst part of DA2's writing that's intrinsic to the game, it sure as hell isn't the characters (aside from Orsino, but only when you side with the mages), it's the Red Idol.
The rest is rather solid.
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When I played the game I didn't consider it a dropped thread at all - it was Anders telling Hawke what he thought Hawke wanted to hear, in order to get help with a scheme for which he knew Hawke would not approve.
That's an interesting take on it that explains things entirely too well.
While it's definitely true that that's how Anders leveraged it, it still stands that Hawke completely forgets about it for years afterward
Re-using assets constantly, boring enemy waves, and contrived bullshit in the climax was more than enough to sink the game. It was basically insulting for EA to charge $60 for something so lazily put together.
I thought all of this happened in the same act...?
Yeah, it was all act 3, there weren't any long stretches of time in between.
Nah. It's a great game with great characters and solid (character) plots. Gameplay was fun and dynamic! Dialogue was good, and great if you went sarcastic.
The re-using of assets is definitely a big a flaw. Enemy waves are a tiny flaw. I thought the ending in general was fantastic but I strongly disliked the double boss battle no matter what.
I enjoyed and replayed DA2 much more than DA: Origins so I certainly got my money's worth out of it.
I mean, I agree that the flaws you name are in the game. DA2 could've benefited a lot from some extra development time. I'm just continuously surprised when that completely ruins the game for someone when there's so many positives to enjoy.
Either way, DA:I has a lot more development time and looks awesome.
But yes, DAI does look great and I look forward to pissing off literally everyone as a Kossith Blood Mage.
So your defense is "Nah. It was great."? Ok. And my enjoyment wasn't exactly ruined, but DA2 was a transparent cash grab and I felt as if the developers were laughing at me as I played purely due to the abysmal lack of effort with dungeons and the campaign as a whole. They just cycled maybe 4 different unique dungeons over and over, and the art style that created them was uninspired. The campaign was basically episodic and only interesting in the middle, all of it punctuated by the exact same fights over and over. I don't recall them being dynamic. It felt like a bargain basement game, $30 would have been fair. Not $60.
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I'm gonna say DA2 was a pretty fun game forever
Everyone can be right on this one. DA2 was what would have happened to any great game if the studio had come in a year before it was done and gone "Ship it now!"
Maybe if you keep telling people they're wrong by recycling negative points we've already seen before you'll be able to prove your point as effectively as you believe it to be.
Oh, you say that now, Wybs, but wait until they add in the interrupt triggers.
For the NPCs.
Quick question - are there any/any good PC tweaks for this to make the game maybe a little prettier? Not sure if there's a mod scene for this.
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DA never really got all that many mods, at least not compared to Fallout and Elder Scrolls.
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so refreshing
The respec mod is almost a necessity, since the game likes to auto-level your companions before you acquire them.
The white teeth mod gets rid of that godawful shit stained mouths that all the characters have.
None are really needed though. DA mods are rather limited in what they can do.
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