The game will try to group lances together based off of premade groups, then fill in as necessary. Sometimes your team is made up of 3, 3, and 2 and 3 mini-lances get formed. It's an uncommon but possible occurrence.
Yeah but I'm doing comparable damage with only a PPC as backup to my 2 LRM20's.
Comparable damage, sure.
In a premade.
With the teammates in your premade cooperating with TAG.
Not really a scathingly valid criticism of the general opinion that PPCs are dumb and OP and making the game generally obnoxious right now. It'd be more notable if the PA side didn't have high damage values, honestly.
Yeah but I'm doing comparable damage with only a PPC as backup to my 2 LRM20's.
Comparable damage, sure.
In a premade.
With the teammates in your premade cooperating with TAG.
Not really a scathingly valid criticism of the general opinion that PPCs are dumb and OP and making the game generally obnoxious right now. It'd be more notable if the PA side didn't have high damage values, honestly.
Psssst. We're talking about LRM's not PPCs.
I know I mentioned the "P" word but the vast majority of my damage was from my LRMs, the PPC was to break ECM if necessary and a fallback when I ran out of ammo.
Nothing in my posts is making any mention of a "scathing criticism" of PPCs. I just thought it was cool that I could do some serious damage with LRMs. I really have no idea what you are reading.
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Not really a scathingly valid criticism of the general opinion that PPCs are dumb and OP and making the game generally obnoxious right now. It'd be more notable if the PA side didn't have high damage values, honestly.
Psssst. We're talking about LRM's not PPCs.
I know I mentioned the "P" word but the vast majority of my damage was from my LRMs, the PPC was to break ECM if necessary and a fallback when I ran out of ammo.
Nothing in my posts is making any mention of a "scathing criticism" of PPCs. I just thought it was cool that I could do some serious damage with LRMs. I really have no idea what you are reading.
Never said you were criticizing PPCs, just that saying LRMs are fine in an OP-PPC metagame doesn't mean much when it takes a whole PA premade with 3 TAGs to get it there.
recorded a few videos. now to figure out how to compress. any place "official" for Oosik videos?
and i have no skill at this. so no music has been added.
Compress them in Windows Movie Maker. It's there by default
using handbrake since its what i use for DVDs and such. everything worked fine with the recording and compression, except afterburner picks up everything but my mic. picks up vent and the game sounds, just cant hear me talking...
edit: some videos have my chat, others dont... odd.
Not really a scathingly valid criticism of the general opinion that PPCs are dumb and OP and making the game generally obnoxious right now. It'd be more notable if the PA side didn't have high damage values, honestly.
Psssst. We're talking about LRM's not PPCs.
I know I mentioned the "P" word but the vast majority of my damage was from my LRMs, the PPC was to break ECM if necessary and a fallback when I ran out of ammo.
Nothing in my posts is making any mention of a "scathing criticism" of PPCs. I just thought it was cool that I could do some serious damage with LRMs. I really have no idea what you are reading.
Never said you were criticizing PPCs, just that saying LRMs are fine in an OP-PPC metagame doesn't mean much when it takes a whole PA premade with 3 TAGs to get it there.
I really have no idea what you were reading.
I didn't say LRMs were fine either. ( I don't even remotely think they are)
God forbid I have a fun game with LRMs and post a screenshot. What is your problem?
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recorded a few videos. now to figure out how to compress. any place "official" for Oosik videos?
and i have no skill at this. so no music has been added.
I loosely maintain a Youtube playlist of Oosik related videos here:
If you upload yours to youtube and pm me the link, I'll add it!
There is an official Oosik channel, but so far there's only the Kablamaphract feature video from last week's podcast on there. I guess it's more for "official" stuff?
As for video encoding: I just use VLC most of the time. It's not just a player, it also has a built in converter/encoder with many common codecs.
Not really a scathingly valid criticism of the general opinion that PPCs are dumb and OP and making the game generally obnoxious right now. It'd be more notable if the PA side didn't have high damage values, honestly.
Psssst. We're talking about LRM's not PPCs.
I know I mentioned the "P" word but the vast majority of my damage was from my LRMs, the PPC was to break ECM if necessary and a fallback when I ran out of ammo.
Nothing in my posts is making any mention of a "scathing criticism" of PPCs. I just thought it was cool that I could do some serious damage with LRMs. I really have no idea what you are reading.
Never said you were criticizing PPCs, just that saying LRMs are fine in an OP-PPC metagame doesn't mean much when it takes a whole PA premade with 3 TAGs to get it there.
I really have no idea what you were reading.
I didn't say LRMs were fine either. ( I don't even remotely think they are)
God forbid I have a fun game with LRMs and post a screenshot. What is your problem?
Yeah but I'm doing comparable damage with only a PPC as backup to my 2 LRM20's.
Just reading the words on the screen. You were the were one that saw a PPC-related post with me commenting and immediately leapt to the conclusion that I misread your post as ripping on PPCs, when it clearly wasn't.
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Not really a scathingly valid criticism of the general opinion that PPCs are dumb and OP and making the game generally obnoxious right now. It'd be more notable if the PA side didn't have high damage values, honestly.
Psssst. We're talking about LRM's not PPCs.
I know I mentioned the "P" word but the vast majority of my damage was from my LRMs, the PPC was to break ECM if necessary and a fallback when I ran out of ammo.
Nothing in my posts is making any mention of a "scathing criticism" of PPCs. I just thought it was cool that I could do some serious damage with LRMs. I really have no idea what you are reading.
Never said you were criticizing PPCs, just that saying LRMs are fine in an OP-PPC metagame doesn't mean much when it takes a whole PA premade with 3 TAGs to get it there.
I really have no idea what you were reading.
The way I got around taking PPC fire was to send in a sacrificial mech (@BillGates) to give me targeting information while staying in cover.
Totally legit.
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Not really a scathingly valid criticism of the general opinion that PPCs are dumb and OP and making the game generally obnoxious right now. It'd be more notable if the PA side didn't have high damage values, honestly.
Psssst. We're talking about LRM's not PPCs.
I know I mentioned the "P" word but the vast majority of my damage was from my LRMs, the PPC was to break ECM if necessary and a fallback when I ran out of ammo.
Nothing in my posts is making any mention of a "scathing criticism" of PPCs. I just thought it was cool that I could do some serious damage with LRMs. I really have no idea what you are reading.
Never said you were criticizing PPCs, just that saying LRMs are fine in an OP-PPC metagame doesn't mean much when it takes a whole PA premade with 3 TAGs to get it there.
I really have no idea what you were reading.
The way I got around taking PPC fire was to send in a sacrificial mech (@BillGates) to give me targeting information while staying in cover.
Totally legit.
"DOODZ, there's some guys over here shooting me real bad."
"Yeah, we got your back! From way over here. Behind the hill. Wait, where are you at? Whatever. Just don't die for the 30 seconds it takes the missiles to get there."
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Eh, I used to carry TAGs on my lights back when people were actually fielding LRMs and still will carry them in groups. It just became futile while pugging since LRMs are rarer than hen's teeth now.
That being said, I prefer to TAG using something like a commando or raven. Keeping a solid TAG lock going with a CT mounted TAG on a spider while dancing around foes is a PITA and I'd rather not give up my arm hardpoints on the 5D.
Not really a scathingly valid criticism of the general opinion that PPCs are dumb and OP and making the game generally obnoxious right now. It'd be more notable if the PA side didn't have high damage values, honestly.
Psssst. We're talking about LRM's not PPCs.
I know I mentioned the "P" word but the vast majority of my damage was from my LRMs, the PPC was to break ECM if necessary and a fallback when I ran out of ammo.
Nothing in my posts is making any mention of a "scathing criticism" of PPCs. I just thought it was cool that I could do some serious damage with LRMs. I really have no idea what you are reading.
Never said you were criticizing PPCs, just that saying LRMs are fine in an OP-PPC metagame doesn't mean much when it takes a whole PA premade with 3 TAGs to get it there.
I really have no idea what you were reading.
I didn't say LRMs were fine either. ( I don't even remotely think they are)
God forbid I have a fun game with LRMs and post a screenshot. What is your problem?
Yeah but I'm doing comparable damage with only a PPC as backup to my 2 LRM20's.
Just reading the words on the screen. You were the were one that saw a PPC-related post with me commenting and immediately leapt to the conclusion that I misread your post as ripping on PPCs, when it clearly wasn't.
Yeah we got work done with LRMs, but I didn't say I thought they were fine, so you made that part up or at the very least completely misread into that..
I said that I did most of my damage with LRMs and only fell back on my PPC in response to Spectrum saying he had to rely heavily on his Lasers, so again, just saying I did some good damage with LRMs and not making any comment about PPCs, despite YOUR quote
Not really a scathingly valid criticism of the general opinion that PPCs are dumb and OP and making the game generally obnoxious right now.
which talks about how my "criticism" of the "general opinion that PPCs are dumb" was not valid.
When I was making no such criticism.
So if you weren't saying that I was making a criticsm against PPCs, why would you say pretty much exactly that and mention that the supposed criticism was not valid? Please enlighten me as to what criticism you WERE referring to that was not valid and that I was apparently making.
But really at this point I think you are just looking for things to complain about.
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Not really a scathingly valid criticism of the general opinion that PPCs are dumb and OP and making the game generally obnoxious right now. It'd be more notable if the PA side didn't have high damage values, honestly.
Psssst. We're talking about LRM's not PPCs.
I know I mentioned the "P" word but the vast majority of my damage was from my LRMs, the PPC was to break ECM if necessary and a fallback when I ran out of ammo.
Nothing in my posts is making any mention of a "scathing criticism" of PPCs. I just thought it was cool that I could do some serious damage with LRMs. I really have no idea what you are reading.
Never said you were criticizing PPCs, just that saying LRMs are fine in an OP-PPC metagame doesn't mean much when it takes a whole PA premade with 3 TAGs to get it there.
I really have no idea what you were reading.
The way I got around taking PPC fire was to send in a sacrificial mech (@BillGates) to give me targeting information while staying in cover.
Totally legit.
"DOODZ, there's some guys over here shooting me real bad."
"Yeah, we got your back! From way over here. Behind the hill. Wait, where are you at? Whatever. Just don't die for the 30 seconds it takes the missiles to get there."
It's payback for when he TK'd me with SSRMs once.
Yeah, think about that one for a bit.
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Not really a scathingly valid criticism of the general opinion that PPCs are dumb and OP and making the game generally obnoxious right now. It'd be more notable if the PA side didn't have high damage values, honestly.
Psssst. We're talking about LRM's not PPCs.
I know I mentioned the "P" word but the vast majority of my damage was from my LRMs, the PPC was to break ECM if necessary and a fallback when I ran out of ammo.
Nothing in my posts is making any mention of a "scathing criticism" of PPCs. I just thought it was cool that I could do some serious damage with LRMs. I really have no idea what you are reading.
Never said you were criticizing PPCs, just that saying LRMs are fine in an OP-PPC metagame doesn't mean much when it takes a whole PA premade with 3 TAGs to get it there.
I really have no idea what you were reading.
The way I got around taking PPC fire was to send in a sacrificial mech (@BillGates) to give me targeting information while staying in cover.
Totally legit.
"DOODZ, there's some guys over here shooting me real bad."
"Yeah, we got your back! From way over here. Behind the hill. Wait, where are you at? Whatever. Just don't die for the 30 seconds it takes the missiles to get there."
It's payback for when he TK'd me with SSRMs once.
Yeah, think about that one for a bit.
No, I think I'll just let that one go.
But hey, I've TKed by kicking a Commando in the leg in passing, so a TK with streaks seems perfectly sensible.
I'm debating whether to start a minty fresh thread now or to hope tomorrow's patch is just really boring and you guys don't lose your shit due to raw hype. I won't have internet access again until Wednesday.
In other news, I got a Logitech G18 Gameboard on the way because I'm getting old and need something that's a little gentler on the wrists.
I'm debating whether to start a minty fresh thread now or to hope tomorrow's patch is just really boring and you guys don't lose your shit due to raw hype. I won't have internet access again until Wednesday.
In other news, I got a Logitech G18 Gameboard on the way because I'm getting old and need something that's a little gentler on the wrists.
If the MG changes go in you'll need a new thread
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At this point, I'm starting to wonder how LRM's will function or specifically, how PGI wants them to function.
Do they want them to be "primary" weapons, that is, the majority of your mechs damage.
Or do they want them in a more "support" role, to simply be a secondary damage aspect and not the primary means of your arsenal. They could serve as a form of in-direct artillery.
They can do ok right now, however it requires a lance built specifically around LRM's. For the most part, 2 LRM mechs (Anywhere from (in my opinion) LRM 40 + is considered a LRM boat that should have a dedicated bodyguard/scouter) accompanied with 2 decent speed mechs that equip tags can serve as scouts/painters and can also fall back and assist there LRM lance mates in case shit hits the fan.
I'm not saying they don't need love, because they do. But they went from primary weapons in Alpha, primary weapons in Closed Beta, secondary weapons in Open Beta, then tuned too much to become massive primary weapons and then nerfed to essentially what many call useless. This isn't really the case, but they do need help.
The change in missile speed is a well needed buff. But in PGI eyes, what do they want them to be?
So, over the past few months, there have been a few complaints about the color scheme of the mechlab.
Presented without any other comment.
I prefer the current scheme. The colors pop more on a darker background and are thus a lot more noticeable. Also, the difference between the empty slots and the actuator/cockpit/etc slots isn't noticeable enough in the lighter version.
So, over the past few months, there have been a few complaints about the color scheme of the mechlab.
Presented without any other comment.
I prefer the current scheme. The colors pop more on a darker background and are thus a lot more noticeable. Also, the difference between the empty slots and the actuator/cockpit/etc slots isn't noticeable enough in the lighter version.
Plus, a darker background is easier on the eyes.
Hmm, I think I agree that empty slots could be easier to make out. Maybe invert the colors of background/font for the filled criticals? Or add a darker (dot matrix pattern?) background?
@HydroSqueegee : The important think to remember in an Awesome is to not be the First lIne. Be the 2nd. If you're the first thing they see, you'll be lit up, and you don't have the profile to take the hits like a stalker or atlas.
I run the 8q with a STD 300, 3 Large and 4 medium, crammed with heat sinks.
I've..uh...also been known to run it with 7 Mpulse and . Which is hilarious.
@mvrck I much prefer the white on black. It's easier on the eyes and the colors pop more. But trust me when I say white/black is so goddamn divisive (even if everyone else is wrong)
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Still getting work done.
2x LRM20+artemis
1 ER PPC
Spectrum running
2x LRM10
2x LRM5
2LLAS
3MLAS
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3 Premades, it tries to keep everyone together with who they dropped with.
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Indeed!
I'm excited about the speed increase on the missiles though. It will be much nicer
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Mind, I also had a Tag, @BillGates has a Tag, and @Delphinidaes has a Tag.
Yeah but I'm doing comparable damage with only a PPC as backup to my 2 LRM20's.
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Comparable damage, sure.
In a premade.
With the teammates in your premade cooperating with TAG.
Not really a scathingly valid criticism of the general opinion that PPCs are dumb and OP and making the game generally obnoxious right now. It'd be more notable if the PA side didn't have high damage values, honestly.
Don't look for reasons. Buy it. Then put 6 large lasers on it.
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Psssst. We're talking about LRM's not PPCs.
I know I mentioned the "P" word but the vast majority of my damage was from my LRMs, the PPC was to break ECM if necessary and a fallback when I ran out of ammo.
Nothing in my posts is making any mention of a "scathing criticism" of PPCs. I just thought it was cool that I could do some serious damage with LRMs. I really have no idea what you are reading.
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fuck it. boughted. now to kit it out...
36 mechs... 2 assaults
and i have no skill at this. so no music has been added.
Compress them in Windows Movie Maker. It's there by default
Never said you were criticizing PPCs, just that saying LRMs are fine in an OP-PPC metagame doesn't mean much when it takes a whole PA premade with 3 TAGs to get it there.
I really have no idea what you were reading.
using handbrake since its what i use for DVDs and such. everything worked fine with the recording and compression, except afterburner picks up everything but my mic. picks up vent and the game sounds, just cant hear me talking...
edit: some videos have my chat, others dont... odd.
I didn't say LRMs were fine either. ( I don't even remotely think they are)
God forbid I have a fun game with LRMs and post a screenshot. What is your problem?
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I loosely maintain a Youtube playlist of Oosik related videos here:
If you upload yours to youtube and pm me the link, I'll add it!
There is an official Oosik channel, but so far there's only the Kablamaphract feature video from last week's podcast on there. I guess it's more for "official" stuff?
As for video encoding: I just use VLC most of the time. It's not just a player, it also has a built in converter/encoder with many common codecs.
Unreal Engine 4 Developers Community.
I'm working on a cute little video game! Here's a link for you.
Just reading the words on the screen. You were the were one that saw a PPC-related post with me commenting and immediately leapt to the conclusion that I misread your post as ripping on PPCs, when it clearly wasn't.
Totally legit.
"DOODZ, there's some guys over here shooting me real bad."
"Yeah, we got your back! From way over here. Behind the hill. Wait, where are you at? Whatever. Just don't die for the 30 seconds it takes the missiles to get there."
That being said, I prefer to TAG using something like a commando or raven. Keeping a solid TAG lock going with a CT mounted TAG on a spider while dancing around foes is a PITA and I'd rather not give up my arm hardpoints on the 5D.
Yeah we got work done with LRMs, but I didn't say I thought they were fine, so you made that part up or at the very least completely misread into that..
I said that I did most of my damage with LRMs and only fell back on my PPC in response to Spectrum saying he had to rely heavily on his Lasers, so again, just saying I did some good damage with LRMs and not making any comment about PPCs, despite YOUR quote
which talks about how my "criticism" of the "general opinion that PPCs are dumb" was not valid.
When I was making no such criticism.
So if you weren't saying that I was making a criticsm against PPCs, why would you say pretty much exactly that and mention that the supposed criticism was not valid? Please enlighten me as to what criticism you WERE referring to that was not valid and that I was apparently making.
But really at this point I think you are just looking for things to complain about.
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Yeah, think about that one for a bit.
No, I think I'll just let that one go.
But hey, I've TKed by kicking a Commando in the leg in passing, so a TK with streaks seems perfectly sensible.
In other news, I got a Logitech G18 Gameboard on the way because I'm getting old and need something that's a little gentler on the wrists.
If the MG changes go in you'll need a new thread
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This is the the tale of Jenner Jack Sparrow!
Do they want them to be "primary" weapons, that is, the majority of your mechs damage.
Or do they want them in a more "support" role, to simply be a secondary damage aspect and not the primary means of your arsenal. They could serve as a form of in-direct artillery.
They can do ok right now, however it requires a lance built specifically around LRM's. For the most part, 2 LRM mechs (Anywhere from (in my opinion) LRM 40 + is considered a LRM boat that should have a dedicated bodyguard/scouter) accompanied with 2 decent speed mechs that equip tags can serve as scouts/painters and can also fall back and assist there LRM lance mates in case shit hits the fan.
I'm not saying they don't need love, because they do. But they went from primary weapons in Alpha, primary weapons in Closed Beta, secondary weapons in Open Beta, then tuned too much to become massive primary weapons and then nerfed to essentially what many call useless. This isn't really the case, but they do need help.
The change in missile speed is a well needed buff. But in PGI eyes, what do they want them to be?
I personally like this new color scheme over the one currently in use. I'm a minimalistic kinda guy, so it suits my tastes.
I prefer the current scheme. The colors pop more on a darker background and are thus a lot more noticeable. Also, the difference between the empty slots and the actuator/cockpit/etc slots isn't noticeable enough in the lighter version.
Plus, a darker background is easier on the eyes.
Hmm, I think I agree that empty slots could be easier to make out. Maybe invert the colors of background/font for the filled criticals? Or add a darker (dot matrix pattern?) background?
Unreal Engine 4 Developers Community.
I'm working on a cute little video game! Here's a link for you.
I run the 8q with a STD 300, 3 Large and 4 medium, crammed with heat sinks.
I've..uh...also been known to run it with 7 Mpulse and . Which is hilarious.
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