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[Blood Bowl] Triple Skulls Every Time

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  • BloodySlothBloodySloth Registered User regular
    edited November 16
    I know if it were standard format, I would say I would probably skip Brawler on ogres if I got to pick. Randomly rolling into it is OK, but you're better off picking something else and focusing on setting up 3-die blocks during a game, which will hopefully make it so Brawler would be unnecessary. That being said, I don't have experience playing around on the sevens field, so if the lower number of players and smaller playspace make it harder to work those tactics, then maybe Brawler would still be on the table.

    Either way, for sure Leader on your Punter.

    Edit: Thinking about it some more, I do like diversifying my ogres, so Break Tackle on one, Juggernaut on another, Leader on the Punter and a last guy with either Stand Firm or Guard or Grab, depending on what teams you're up against and how you like playing. I like the sound of that personally. That comes up to 24 SPP. Or yeah, go Block on one and then another with Break Tackle or any of the last three skills above.

    Or go hog wild and give a guy Sure Hands, give your Punter Leader, and some combat related Strength skill on one other guy. Now you're cooking with stupid gas.

    Edit2: I don't really recommend that last one unless you're still going to be earning experience after each game, which isn't typical in the tournaments I've heard of. It is funny, though. And if you are still earning SPP, absolutely get Break Tackle on that Sure Hands ogre ASAP.

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  • [Expletive deleted][Expletive deleted] The mediocre doctor NorwayRegistered User regular
    I would have liked to give them block, but thought about brawler as "block light". I do see your point.

    4 ogres and no rr (other than leader) or 3 ogres and 1 rr (plus leader)?

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  • BloodySlothBloodySloth Registered User regular
    edited November 17
    Brawler is for most purposes Block light, but you can only use it offensively, where it helps your ogres the least. I haven't played around with it much, but it seems like Brawler would be a much stronger skill on a St4 or even 3 piece, where you're going to be rolling fewer block dice anyway. If you can manage 3 dice on a block, Brawler isn't going to add much more to that, really. Obviously it's still a fine skill and will still be useful, but I think you'd get more use out of something else right away... I at least wouldn't put bonus starting SPP towards putting it on every guy. YMMV, obviously.

    As for the reroll deal, that's personal taste, really. Double the rerolls is double the reliability, at the cost of potential power. I think if you find yourself easily frustrated at failing roles repeatedly, losing an ogre for a reroll might be doing your own sanity a favor. Otherwise, one more ogre is a lot more muscle.

    Edit: these are just general ideas, but the value of stuff can change depending on your opponents. Like putting Brawler on everyone is going to be a better idea if you're against a shitload of Block, for example. In that case I still think I'd recommend switching out one Brawler for a Juggernaut.

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  • [Expletive deleted][Expletive deleted] The mediocre doctor NorwayRegistered User regular
    Brawler on ogres was recommended by the Bone Head podcast (they're on youtube, too) if you couldn't afford block.

    It's a bit tricky to get too many assists in 7s, I think, due to the lower player count.

    Guess I'll have to try one way or the other.

    Really uncertain about the RR, though. Four ogres lets my build a cage, but a rather unreliable one with only 1 RR from leader.

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  • BloodySlothBloodySloth Registered User regular
    You can at least get away with caging against the sidelines with two ogres if a gnoblar has the ball, since sidestep prevents a crowd push (unless your opponent has grab).

  • Mr_RoseMr_Rose 83 Blue Ridge Protects the Holy Registered User regular
    Remember, the BB FAQ is due soon, so be sure to send in your questions to [email protected] and maybe sneak one in under the wire.

    I asked about Scyla’s bonus Block action.

    Anyway, who all got the new Spike! Magazine? What do you think of the Chaos Cup rules?

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  • BloodySlothBloodySloth Registered User regular
    My pre-orders still haven't even been shipped yet. Every time I pre-order from GW it's a horrible experience, but I keep doing it for FOMO over the dice sets.

  • Mr_RoseMr_Rose 83 Blue Ridge Protects the Holy Registered User regular
    Dungeon Bowl is up for preorder next week!
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    Along with the revised Goblin pitch, cards, and dice.
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    Oh and a bunch of unimportant non-Bowl related items I guess.

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  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
  • honoverehonovere Registered User regular
    I kinda fear that painted plastic chests re going to lead to some cheating possibilities.

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  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    honovere wrote: »
    I kinda fear that painted plastic chests re going to lead to some cheating possibilities.

    I am just going to play my brother but I am still curious if I can play with just an all lizardmen team

  • LordSolarMachariusLordSolarMacharius Red wine with fish Registered User regular
    honovere wrote: »
    I kinda fear that painted plastic chests re going to lead to some cheating possibilities.

    How so? I've never played Dungeon Bowl, but I assumed the rule would be something like "when a player opens a chest, roll a die. On a 5+ they've found the ball, else the chest explodes in their face."

  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    honovere wrote: »
    I kinda fear that painted plastic chests re going to lead to some cheating possibilities.

    How so? I've never played Dungeon Bowl, but I assumed the rule would be something like "when a player opens a chest, roll a die. On a 5+ they've found the ball, else the chest explodes in their face."

    Marking the chest when they paint it or whomever places it

  • LordSolarMachariusLordSolarMacharius Red wine with fish Registered User regular
    Brainleech wrote: »
    Marking the chest when they paint it or whomever places it

    Aye, but is that how Dungeon Bowl does it? It's not randomised as it's opened?

  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    Brainleech wrote: »
    Marking the chest when they paint it or whomever places it

    Aye, but is that how Dungeon Bowl does it? It's not randomised as it's opened?

    The chests look the same in the preview but one of them looks like has the ball buried in gold coins
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    So the person painting the chest can mark it so they know?
    Now I am very curious how they handle this in the game as marking the chest or someone placing the chest can place it to their advantage.

  • Mr_RoseMr_Rose 83 Blue Ridge Protects the Holy Registered User regular
    Brainleech wrote: »
    Marking the chest when they paint it or whomever places it

    Aye, but is that how Dungeon Bowl does it? It's not randomised as it's opened?

    OG Dungeon Bowl used two-sided card tokens. Five with explosions and one with a ball. You flipped them over to find out what you got; no dice rolling required.

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  • LordSolarMachariusLordSolarMacharius Red wine with fish Registered User regular
    Mr_Rose wrote: »
    OG Dungeon Bowl used two-sided card tokens. Five with explosions and one with a ball. You flipped them over to find out what you got; no dice rolling required.

    I see. So if the model with the ball has replaced the card token, that's potentially easier to get away with cheating than with card marking. (Due to the natural variation in a painted product vs the natural uniformity of a printed card.)

    I guess... I'd just trust my opponent not to do that, but there should probably be alternatives in place for tournaments.

  • Mr_RoseMr_Rose 83 Blue Ridge Protects the Holy Registered User regular
    edited November 25
    Mr_Rose wrote: »
    OG Dungeon Bowl used two-sided card tokens. Five with explosions and one with a ball. You flipped them over to find out what you got; no dice rolling required.

    I see. So if the model with the ball has replaced the card token, that's potentially easier to get away with cheating than with card marking. (Due to the natural variation in a painted product vs the natural uniformity of a printed card.)

    I guess... I'd just trust my opponent not to do that, but there should probably be alternatives in place for tournaments.

    “Dungeon Bowl” and “Tournament” are uneasy bedfellows; DB games have no minimum or maximum turn limit so scheduling alone is a nightmare. Never mind the concentrated old school GW brand wackiness like random monster attacks and individual rooms having special FX.
    I mean you could do it but no-one wants the playoff final decided on turn two so you’d have to house rule even more stuff than regular BB.

    That said, the treasure chest solution is relatively simple; flat grey spray. Mostly to cover up sprue marks and seam lines.

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  • honoverehonovere Registered User regular
    except for the Dungeon Bowl. Germany's largest (I think) BB tournament. But even they only play the final game as actual Dungeon Bowl.

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  • [Expletive deleted][Expletive deleted] The mediocre doctor NorwayRegistered User regular
    edited November 26
    Had a bunch of boring phone meetings, so I decided to make logos for four teams.

    My ogres, the Big Rock Candy Mountain Chunky Monkeys
    My skaven, the Blitzburgh Stealers
    The club's imperial nobility, the Dankburg Dandies
    The club's black orcs, the Waaghington Greenskins

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  • honoverehonovere Registered User regular
    GW is cutting it really close with the November FAQ.

    I must say 2021 has been a bit disappointing on the release side. Only a single plastic release really, with the khorne team. Dungeonbowl might have nice cardboard and new dice but that's basically it. And the there's only a bunch of resin star players and two big guys.

    I hope they have a bunch of teams ready to go for 2022 and only don't have production slots for them at the moment.

    I think speculation was that the Warmaster titan with its several large plastic sprues also ate up a lot of specialist games production slots in addition to the whole pandemic and Brexit shenanigans

  • honoverehonovere Registered User regular
    edited November 29
    https://www.warhammer-community.com/faqs/#blood-bowl

    FAQ is up

    Some clarifications, especially for swarming, hakflem 210k, Morg 380k, stat options for mercs can only be taken once each. (Now we can argue about whether you can reduce several stats once or only a single stat once.
    They actually changed team tiers around a bit.
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    Barock Farblast
    https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/11/29/the-only-thing-arriving-with-a-bigger-bang-than-barik-farblasts-bazooka-is-todays-blood-bowl-faq/

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  • Mr_RoseMr_Rose 83 Blue Ridge Protects the Holy Registered User regular
    So they basically fixed the DZ mercs. They’re good but not game breaking now. That’s good.

    Also, Barik is a fantastic model. That one image doesn’t do him justice.

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  • honoverehonovere Registered User regular
    Swarming for underworld gets nerfed, too

    From the warcom article
    Swarming is a unique rule that allows extra Snotlings to pour onto the pitch. While extra Snotlings are fine in a Snotling team, this was proving particularly potent for Underworld Denizens. So, we’ve amended Swarming so coaches can only add as many extra Snotlings as there are friendly players on the pitch who already have the Swarming trait.

  • BloodySlothBloodySloth Registered User regular
    Good, clear stuff in the FAQ. Kind of surprised to see them doing errata work on the tiers and star player costs, but I like it.

    Mr_Rose
  • EspantaPajaroEspantaPajaro Registered User regular
    Bb3 delayed again to “late” 2022

  • LordSolarMachariusLordSolarMacharius Red wine with fish Registered User regular
    Bb3 delayed again to “late” 2022

    Oof. Considering it already had one massive delay (and that what they have showed seemed to be a simple but competent digitisation of the table top game) that's bizarre.

  • EspantaPajaroEspantaPajaro Registered User regular
    Everything I’ve heard from the beta would suggest that beta wasn’t competent. I remember multiple complaints about redundant commands to do one action as well as it not showing you important information in the UI. But hey maybe it transforms into a good game . Shouldn’t be hard , just used the bb2 interface, simple clean and more importantly all the information is there . Maybe we get an extra team for launch if it takes super long ?

  • Mr_RoseMr_Rose 83 Blue Ridge Protects the Holy Registered User regular
    So I’m looking at the actual College Team lists for DB and it’s interesting noting the differences between the individual player entries compared to their regular team lists. Like the complete lack of Animosity on any of the Orcs. Also seeing which teams get which Human Thrower.

    Also very interesting is the replacement passing skills since Canoneer, HMP etc. are redundant with the lack of long passes. The one to immediately declare a Pass after teleporting looks like a good surprise play. There’s also a general skill to re-roll the teleport destination, to replace Kick.

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  • honoverehonovere Registered User regular
    Oh, that's nice. I saw the college rosters but didn't know there were actually different, dungeon specific skills in the book, too

  • EspantaPajaroEspantaPajaro Registered User regular
    edited December 4
    Hmm, no mb if you go down ( both down with no block )certainly is a choice. That’s a pretty big nerf

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  • honoverehonovere Registered User regular
    It's a skill that can't be used when you're down, so more of a clarification than a nerf. At least it's how our league already handled it as far as I know

  • Mr_RoseMr_Rose 83 Blue Ridge Protects the Holy Registered User regular
    Hm, slightly more annoying; the skill errata (about which ones an be used prone, mostly) from the BB core book didn’t get translated across so we can expect that at minimum for the FAQ.

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  • [Expletive deleted][Expletive deleted] The mediocre doctor NorwayRegistered User regular
    FW resin?

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  • honoverehonovere Registered User regular
    yes. GW seems to have gotten the message and the last few resin release teaser actually mention the material.

  • [Expletive deleted][Expletive deleted] The mediocre doctor NorwayRegistered User regular
    Didn't catch that, but I only skimmed it.

    Either way, that's me out. Can't* get FW here, since GW doesn't do VAT.

    * Technically I can, but it will cost me 20 euros plus 25% of the value, including the value of the shipping, on top of the item and shipping price. I'm not made of money.

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