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[TRENCHES] Thursday, April 18, 2013 - Velocity

GethGeth LegionPerseus VeilRegistered User, Moderator, Penny Arcade Staff, Vanilla Staff vanilla
edited April 2013 in The Penny Arcade Hub
Velocity


Velocity
http://trenchescomic.com/comic/post/velocity

Like Meatloaf.

Anonymous

I worked as a QA tester for about 6 months (long enough to realize I never wanted to do it ever again) when I was in desperate need of work and, you know, money. After I was laid off, I thought I was done with the job. But as it turns out, you’re never done.

Years later, doing a university course for something I actually wanted to do with my life, I find myself in the animation studio of the school taking photos of students. Some of them were working on making a game for some reason. A very excited girl runs up to me, asking if I could pretty please play test her game build for her assignment.

“Sure, I don’t see the harm.” I say, and I sit down and play a horrifically broken FPS and show her exactly where it’s unclear how to progress and what’s wrong with her level design, and offer suggestions on how to improve the product.

“Wow. You’re really good at this!” she exclaims.

“Oh? Well I guess it’s just ingrained in me from when I worked as a game tester.” I respond without thinking. Her eyes widen with excitement, and my heart sinks.

I then spent the next 12 hours testing every single game in their class and giving comprehensive analysis to each of them about the builds. I was also asked to come back in a week to do it again.

I was passed around like a lump of meat loaf and wasn’t even offered any kind of compensation for my time after the fact. They all thought “Playing games for 12 hours” was payment enough…


Geth on

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  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    This comic is going exactly where I was hoping it would.

  • RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    Best explaination ever.

  • Dark Raven XDark Raven X Laugh hard, run fast, be kindRegistered User regular
    I love that Isaac has 2 pizza slices

    Conserving time, because 1 slice at a time is just too slow.

    Oh brilliant
  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    I love that Isaac has 2 pizza slices

    Conserving time, because 1 slice at a time is just too slow.

    Also it's cut unevenly by an obvious margin, which is one of my secret pet peeves.

  • CasualCasual Wiggle Wiggle Wiggle Flap Flap Flap Registered User regular
    I'm starting to see why these people are QA testers.

  • NoOutletNoOutlet Registered User regular
    Henroid wrote: »
    Also it's cut unevenly by an obvious margin, which is one of my secret pet peeves.

    I was seeing it as one slice being under the other.

    The recommended way to eat two slices at once is to fold the tops together so that you have a pizza sandwich.

  • Chris FOMChris FOM Registered User regular
    Henroid wrote: »
    I love that Isaac has 2 pizza slices

    Conserving time, because 1 slice at a time is just too slow.

    Also it's cut unevenly by an obvious margin, which is one of my secret pet peeves.

    They're overlapping, because Isaac ain't got time for sequential.

  • EinzelEinzel Registered User regular
    Henroid wrote: »
    I love that Isaac has 2 pizza slices

    Conserving time, because 1 slice at a time is just too slow.

    Also it's cut unevenly by an obvious margin, which is one of my secret pet peeves.

    I have a feeling it was one piece and it looked a little too big at the last minute so a line was added. I love the look on his face though.

  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    I have the rpg maker on steam and I inflict the games I have made with it on my freind and brother to see what they think about them and how thye can be improved
    Most of the time they say things like game a with parts of c would be cool

    But long ago when I took computer programing classes I really felt awkward letting people play with the shitty games I built

  • kingworkskingworks Registered User regular
    You can have that pizza when you pry it from his cold dead fingers.

  • twestermtwesterm Lewisville, TXRegistered User regular
    The story (Promoted Due to Incompetence) is one of the most nonsensical stories I've ever read here, and that's saying something.

  • Warlock82Warlock82 Never pet a burning dog Registered User regular
    twesterm wrote: »
    The story (Promoted Due to Incompetence) is one of the most nonsensical stories I've ever read here, and that's saying something.

    Yeah that was really weird.

    Also comic is great :D

    Switch: 2143-7130-1359 | 3DS: 4983-4927-6699 | Steam: warlock82 | PSN: Warlock2282
  • marsiliesmarsilies Registered User regular
    Today's tale:
    Promoted due to incompetence
    04/18/2013 - Anonymous

    First off, I’m an artist not a member of a QA team.

    I worked for this one company in England (Cambridge to be exact), and one member of the QA team would always add art critiques as bugs, offering their opinion. This normally would be frowned upon, but it was known to be a direct order from the owner of the company to this tester.

    Now this went on for about a month during which time the art director wasn’t on speaking terms with the owner… yeah I know. So everyone thought that these “bugs” were legit.

    Then one day (shortly before our big E3 playable) we received this bug:

    “(insert name here) feels flags need to be blue not red and should have this logo in it’s place. please revise.”

    This took us some time to change and push to the new build, because there were a LOT of flags. Well the owner lost it. He couldn’t believe the art director made such a sweeping change without his consent, blah, blah, blah. Until I pointed out the “bug” and a whole string of other “bugs.”

    So of course instead of dealing with the problem in a logical manner, the QA person was moved onto the design team.

  • Ori KleinOri Klein Registered User regular
    Warlock82 wrote: »
    twesterm wrote: »
    The story (Promoted Due to Incompetence) is one of the most nonsensical stories I've ever read here, and that's saying something.

    Yeah that was really weird.

    Also comic is great :D

    Tester-dude is obviously a moron relative of the owner or someone important to the owner for some reason or another. So he gives him a job and 'protects' him.
    There are two ways to deal with incompetent people in a company: a) fire them b) transfer them.

  • twestermtwesterm Lewisville, TXRegistered User regular
    Ori Klein wrote: »

    Yeah that was really weird.

    Also comic is great :D

    Tester-dude is obviously a moron relative of the owner or someone important to the owner for some reason or another. So he gives him a job and 'protects' him.
    There are two ways to deal with incompetent people in a company: a) fire them b) transfer them.[/quote]

    That was my first thought too, though I've seen producers that honestly believe testers and designers are essentially the same thing.

    I've known testers that didn't want to be designers because they knew it's something they didn't have the knack for and I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that I could not be a good tester. I've seen testers do things to break levels that I would never ever dream of doing and the fact they thought to do those things always leaves me in awe. Two completely different skill sets.

    And yes, I enjoyed this comic. :)

  • SlaignSlaign Registered User regular
    I dunno, this story is pretty disjointed. I don't feel like even what the writer understood about the situation was well presented, and there was obviously a lot going on he didn't understand. Obviously something stupid was going on, but I don't think we have enough information to fairly call the QA tester a moron. He might have just been doing what he was told.

    Hell, while it seems really unlikely, it's even possible the QA guy's art critiques were good ones. It would be a shitty way of doing it anyway, but again that might not be his fault. Sure the story doesn't paint it that way, but I know plenty of people who would be bitter about taking criticism from an underling regardless of it's value.

    Just playing devil's advocate is all. I feel like this is one of the high percentage of Trenches tales that can be filed under "Too little information, all of which is one sided."

  • DraygoDraygo Registered User regular
    Ori Klein wrote: »
    Warlock82 wrote: »
    twesterm wrote: »
    The story (Promoted Due to Incompetence) is one of the most nonsensical stories I've ever read here, and that's saying something.

    Yeah that was really weird.

    Also comic is great :D

    Tester-dude is obviously a moron relative of the owner or someone important to the owner for some reason or another. So he gives him a job and 'protects' him.
    There are two ways to deal with incompetent people in a company: a) fire them b) transfer them.

    My feeling on this is that the owner wanted this guy to be in design in the first place and directed him to issue design comments as bugs. So it seems logical enough. he probably didn't have enough 'experience' to throw right into a design position. So just put him in QA.

  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    Isaac's hands are so tiny. He can barely wrap them around just the crust of the pizza.

  • PsykomaPsykoma Registered User regular
    forty wrote: »
    Isaac's hands are so tiny. He can barely wrap them around just the crust of the pizza.

    It could be one of those monster costco sized pizzas. I don't have small hands and I can barely handle those things.

  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    Psykoma wrote: »
    forty wrote: »
    Isaac's hands are so tiny. He can barely wrap them around just the crust of the pizza.

    It could be one of those monster costco sized pizzas. I don't have small hands and I can barely handle those things.

    As an aside, those Costco pizzas kicked ass.

  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON Registered User regular
    Why would it take a lot of time to replace each flag? Wouldn't each flag use the same texture as each other flag? Just change the one flag.

  • spotterspotter Registered User new member
    I have to agree about this story having too little information. It really does seem one-sided.

    Especially at smaller start-ups, I've seen a lot of testers get promoted out of QA. In fact, I've known quite a few people who were very much overqualified for the usual QA gig, but they were too scared to apply for an actual designer/developer position, so they started in QA to get their "foot in the door." Sometimes it works; they get to know the right people, someone recognizes they have a talent outside of QA, and they get promoted.

    In almost every case I've seen a tester get pulled to do design/dev work, it had absolutely nothing to do with their aptitude at testing. You don't promote QA to a designer position because they're good at finding bugs. You promote them out of QA because they're actually good at design.

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