charging money to play your games online that you spent $60 for is a terrible idea and I'm astounded anyone defends it in the year of our lord 2013
Really? Why do MMO's get away with it, then? As long as the experience is good, then I don't mind it. Not sure why you find it so astounding. I sense a little hyperbole, but whatever.
As Couscous has been saying, I don't see how they can plan to compete for the living room when they are up against much cheaper options that do everything except play a core games and cost a fraction of what these next gen consoles do.
And is there any "living room" application that wouldn't be done as well by a 360 with Kinect? I think if was in charge I'd release a XBOX ONE without kinect being mandatory and a cheap 360 base Kinect machine. But that might work better if the One were backwards compatible.
Also, any thoughts on the name? I'm not super impressed but at least it isn't as bad as Wii U.
(Please do not gift. My game bank is already full.)
The sad part is, this conference only supports my idea that the industry is going to have an incredibly bad year next year.
Such negativity.
The last 5 minutes were spent talking about how they mocapped and individually textured a dog, right down to the scars on its face. The EA part talked about how they would digitally stream dynamic, updating content to their games every day and every single person in the stands would be delivered that way. The Remedy part talked about real-time, dynamic weathering effects.
Anyone, ANYONE who says game development costs are going down is fooling themselves.
The sad part is, this conference only supports my idea that the industry is going to have an incredibly bad year next year.
And this sort of overreach and cowardice from the big players who set the framework and drags down interest in stationary gaming will hit against all the smaller developers who won't be able to make bank. Lucky you, PC and mobile gamers, you're about to get catered to.
The sad part is, this conference only supports my idea that the industry is going to have an incredibly bad year next year.
Such negativity.
The last 5 minutes were spent talking about how they mocapped and individually textured a dog, right down to the scars on its face. The EA part talked about how they would digitally stream dynamic, updating content to their games every day and every single person in the stands would be delivered that way. The Remedy part talked about real-time, dynamic weathering effects.
Anyone, ANYONE who says game development costs are going down is fooling themselves.
So, you're disappointed because game development costs aren't going down? I'm a bit confused about what people are disappointed with, specifically. I mean, I wasn't personally wowed by anything in particular, as I'm not really all that interested in cross media integration or social tools, but given that I use my xbox now for watching movies and netflix as much as I use it for gaming, I'm at least open to it. I'm going to postpone my full impression of the console until E3, when they get into more game specific stuff, but I don't see anything outrageously disappointing yet.
Still, wouldn't be the gaming community without unwarranted bellyaching and pessimism.
Wired got a look at Xbox One before today's big reveal, and they say that games will require installation to use. “On the new Xbox, all game discs are installed to the HDD to play,” Microsoft told them.
But games will be tied to an Xbox Live account, Wired reveals—or else you'd just be able to pass games around to everyone you know. And if you want to link a game to a second account, you'll have to pay a fee.
Microsoft did say that if a disc was used with a second account, that owner would be given the option to pay a fee and install the game from the disc, which would then mean that the new account would also own the game and could play it without the disc.
Wired got a look at Xbox One before today's big reveal, and they say that games will require installation to use. “On the new Xbox, all game discs are installed to the HDD to play,” Microsoft told them.
But games will be tied to an Xbox Live account, Wired reveals—or else you'd just be able to pass games around to everyone you know. And if you want to link a game to a second account, you'll have to pay a fee.
Microsoft did say that if a disc was used with a second account, that owner would be given the option to pay a fee and install the game from the disc, which would then mean that the new account would also own the game and could play it without the disc.
So that rumor was kind of true!
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Forced HDD installs.... Connecting a game to a second Live account requires small fee to MS... Although you do get to play it online. For another fee... Cripes.
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Wired got a look at Xbox One before today's big reveal, and they say that games will require installation to use. “On the new Xbox, all game discs are installed to the HDD to play,” Microsoft told them.
But games will be tied to an Xbox Live account, Wired reveals—or else you'd just be able to pass games around to everyone you know. And if you want to link a game to a second account, you'll have to pay a fee.
Microsoft did say that if a disc was used with a second account, that owner would be given the option to pay a fee and install the game from the disc, which would then mean that the new account would also own the game and could play it without the disc.
Now THIS is a reason to be disappointed. If this turns out to be true then I might not even buy an xbox one. Giving my nephews my games when I'm done with them is one of the big reasons I use to justify buying games. If this is true, I'm going to be very disappointed.
I just reread the Kotoku article, and it looks like the only assured statement is that the xbox requires installation to the hd for every game. Everything else looks to be things the writer simply derived. So I'm not going to jump on the hate bandwagon just yet until we have official information. Still... scary proposition if true.
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What's going to kill Gamefly is the requirement that a game...
wait. shit.
The game fully installs.
The game does not require the disk.
The game ties its license to your Live account (just like Windows Office 2013 ties to your live account).
So... yeah. The physical media doesn't mean anything, so the licenses are likely to be expensive.
I just reread the Kotoku article, and it looks like the only assured statement is that the xbox requires installation to the hd for every game. Everything else looks to be things the writer simply derived. So I'm not going to jump on the hate bandwagon just yet until we have official information. Still... scary proposition if true.
Microsoft has said that a fee would be charged for any game disc to be tied to a second Xbox Live account following its initial installation. This is likely to limit the market for second-hand games, but would not eliminate the possibility altogether. The company is yet to confirm whether players will be able to play games from disc or run them on secondary accounts without paying for the installation, nor has it given any indication of what the fee may be.
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People say "the U" on podcasts, interviews, etc. You don't think they'll say "the One?"
Clearly in general people will say a combination of things, it ain't no thang.
So Xbox is Neo?
Woah
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Really? Why do MMO's get away with it, then? As long as the experience is good, then I don't mind it. Not sure why you find it so astounding. I sense a little hyperbole, but whatever.
No. Call of Duty's DLC is launching first on Xbox One.
Think they said it'd be exclusive dlc, not the game itself.
Console war? more like special Olympics at this rate. This shit is embarrassing.
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As Couscous has been saying, I don't see how they can plan to compete for the living room when they are up against much cheaper options that do everything except play a core games and cost a fraction of what these next gen consoles do.
And is there any "living room" application that wouldn't be done as well by a 360 with Kinect? I think if was in charge I'd release a XBOX ONE without kinect being mandatory and a cheap 360 base Kinect machine. But that might work better if the One were backwards compatible.
Also, any thoughts on the name? I'm not super impressed but at least it isn't as bad as Wii U.
(Please do not gift. My game bank is already full.)
Such negativity.
No humor at weeeeuuuu?
The last 5 minutes were spent talking about how they mocapped and individually textured a dog, right down to the scars on its face. The EA part talked about how they would digitally stream dynamic, updating content to their games every day and every single person in the stands would be delivered that way. The Remedy part talked about real-time, dynamic weathering effects.
Anyone, ANYONE who says game development costs are going down is fooling themselves.
And this sort of overreach and cowardice from the big players who set the framework and drags down interest in stationary gaming will hit against all the smaller developers who won't be able to make bank. Lucky you, PC and mobile gamers, you're about to get catered to.
So, you're disappointed because game development costs aren't going down? I'm a bit confused about what people are disappointed with, specifically. I mean, I wasn't personally wowed by anything in particular, as I'm not really all that interested in cross media integration or social tools, but given that I use my xbox now for watching movies and netflix as much as I use it for gaming, I'm at least open to it. I'm going to postpone my full impression of the console until E3, when they get into more game specific stuff, but I don't see anything outrageously disappointing yet.
Still, wouldn't be the gaming community without unwarranted bellyaching and pessimism.
kotaku.com/the-xbox-is-not-always-online-but-seems-to-block-used-509077987
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That seems like jumping to too many conclusions. People could come out in droves, there's no way to predict what's going to happen.
It looks like MS hasn't done anything dreadfully and obviously stupid. No Illumiroom wasting your money on flash and whiz bang for nothing.
EDIT: I SPOKE A FEW SECONDS TOO SOON
Please tell me this is fake, because if not... hilarious...
Okay if that's legit, that is fucking hysterical.
Yes. Literally a few seconds too soon.
Well, too late? Semantics.
https://www.google.com/finance?q=NYSE:SNE&ei=xLmbUbi6HqjniQKyzAE
Sony's stock jumped 2 and a half points at 1pm.
Now THIS is a reason to be disappointed. If this turns out to be true then I might not even buy an xbox one. Giving my nephews my games when I'm done with them is one of the big reasons I use to justify buying games. If this is true, I'm going to be very disappointed.
It is real.
There was not a similar bump for MS during Sony's equally awful conference.
Depends on how high the fee was.
Nah, you get it sent to you, you pay their fee, and now you're not just renting the game, you own it! Isn't that wonderful?
If it's more than $1 it's too high
So in reality it just kills Gamefly's part they play in "You like it? Keep it for additional dollars."
wait. shit.
The game fully installs.
The game does not require the disk.
The game ties its license to your Live account (just like Windows Office 2013 ties to your live account).
So... yeah. The physical media doesn't mean anything, so the licenses are likely to be expensive.