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    ButtlordButtlord Fornicus Lord of Bondage and PainRegistered User regular
    BYToady wrote: »
    BYToady wrote: »
    ... then you're forgetting about your parents, your spouse, perhaps your kids.

    Oh, this is a delightful; gonna work it into a campaign at some point.

    Now lets talk about the parts of Unknown Armies that'll make everyone not want to play it.

    Sex mages. They gain charges by having anonymous sex, empty sex. And lose their powers by having any kind of meaningful sex. One of the 'artifacts' of the game is a porn video where the main porn star ascended to sexgodhood halfway through a scene.

    isn't their major charge recreating one of her scenes as faithfully as possible

    like

    the same person

    in the same place

    in the same clothes

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    Darth WaiterDarth Waiter Elrond Hubbard Mordor XenuRegistered User regular
    Yukira wrote: »
    Yukira wrote: »
    Zonugal wrote: »
    @Buttlord, you sure have made Unknown Armies sounds good.

    My alcoholic, degenerate thespian friends could probably play it pretty well.

    Yes? Someone called?

    EDIT:

    "Yukira"

    "Moriveth"

    Algernon is dead. Long live Algernon.

    However!

    I fear that where Algernon was one, there may be Legion, The Rats In the Walls.

    What. What's happening? What's going on?

    I caught the rat; got a picture and everything, but it's slightly morbid seeing a helpless rodent with his face stuck to a glue trap so I'll spare you all.

    I'll post a picture of my alarm system tomorrow: 3 miniature dachsunds who couldn't catch the damn thing, but sure did sniff around and bark a lot.

    Useless bitches, I swear.

    Oh, oh! Such a shame then. I guess you two couldn't be friends.

    Betcha you just killed the rat who would be Splinter and have ruined the Ninja Turtles.

    Nice going, jerk!

    Funny thing is, I looked up some rat pictures and it looks like he was pretty damn close to a Pack Rat but his tail was hairless instead of bushy like the reference photo.

    Supposedly, pack rats make decent pets if raised in captivity; I prefer felines for this very reason.

    As for him being Splinter, I'm fairly certain that a ninja rat wouldn't have gotten stuck in a glue trap; at the very least it would have employed a distracting smoke bomb.

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    ButtlordButtlord Fornicus Lord of Bondage and PainRegistered User regular
    adepts are basically awesome because it's just

    hey

    you want to play as a fundamentally broken human being

    you get to do maaaaa-giiiiiiic

    videomancers get power by watching tv but if they ever miss their shows they lose power!

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    StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    I kind of doubt Hirohito personally thought he was a deity.

    I agree. I was mostly just extrapolating off of certain ideas. And in a setting where you can become a literal deity through worldly action, I think it's a reasonable path for him to follow. Even if he isn't made immortal by this, it's tacking another good 40 years of his reign on.

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    BYToadyBYToady Registered User regular
    Unknown Armies is basically the game to play if you wanna crack open a psychology textbook, throw a dart at it, and get magic powers.

    Battletag BYToady#1454
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    SkylarkSkylark o7 Vile Rat o7 o7 Photon Torpedo o7Registered User regular
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    Straightzi wrote: »
    Shorty's correct in that being a terrible example though. Europe was on the verge of World War One for decades before it actually happened. Every couple of years there was another crisis on the same level, if not a greater one, as the death of the Archduke. World War One was a product of a series of systematic alliances and massive post industrialization changes upsetting the delicate balance of power for an entire continent.

    So the poor old ostrich died for nothing.

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    ButtlordButtlord Fornicus Lord of Bondage and PainRegistered User regular
    Straightzi wrote: »
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    I kind of doubt Hirohito personally thought he was a deity.

    I agree. I was mostly just extrapolating off of certain ideas. And in a setting where you can become a literal deity through worldly action, I think it's a reasonable path for him to follow. Even if he isn't made immortal by this, it's tacking another good 40 years of his reign on.

    "literal deity" is pushing it a bit

    and you're overestimating people's involvement with day-to-day life once they ascend

    assuming you manage to ascend, and don't have another godwalker or one of the actual archetype's mortal lackeys knock you off first (those guys have been members of the Clergy for a long time for a reason), you're not like

    oh hey i'm the king

    gonna run this country woo woo

    what kind of king you are influences all the other kings that exist

    and you can play n-dimensional chess with shit

    but yeah you're not doing ordinary guy things at that point, you're way above that

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    StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    Whatevs it was a thought experiment.

    I mean also I fail to see how the game is at all interesting at higher levels, at that point.

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    ButtlordButtlord Fornicus Lord of Bondage and PainRegistered User regular
    "higher levels" can mean a lot of different things depending on what kind of game you're playing

    the tiers aren't a progression they're just a description of the scope of the campaign

    you don't really start as just joe blow finding out about the occult underground and end up ascending as The Mystic Hermaphrodite

    the clergy also isn't supposed to really be playable

    they're not really people at that point

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    BYToadyBYToady Registered User regular
    My favorite part of the game had to be the sanity system.

    Rates on a scale of 1 to 10, each horrible thing you see or experience is listed on that scale, if the number is lower than your current nutso scale it doesn't matter cause it isn't bad enough to bug you. If higher, check to see if you gain more crazypants. Get to high and you start taking on phobias and the like.

    Battletag BYToady#1454
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    ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
    Buttlord wrote: »
    videomancers get power by watching tv but if they ever miss their shows they lose power!

    I'm pretty sure I'm on the path to becoming a videomancer.

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    ButtlordButtlord Fornicus Lord of Bondage and PainRegistered User regular
    yeah

    i love that "that boy ain't right" is like the major theme of UA

    nobody in it is in their right mind

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    ButtlordButtlord Fornicus Lord of Bondage and PainRegistered User regular
    Zonugal wrote: »
    Buttlord wrote: »
    videomancers get power by watching tv but if they ever miss their shows they lose power!

    I'm pretty sure I'm on the path to becoming a videomancer.
    videomancer charge generation:

    note: videomancers choose a show or shows to fetishize, these are the things they have to watch to get their power, if they miss any of the shows they're locked onto they lose their charges

    minor: watch a rerun of your show(s) one time, beginning to end, don't even miss a commercial

    major: see above, replace rerun with "new episode" (news broadcasts are always new episodes)

    significant: star in an episode of your chosen show(s). you have to be on screen for at least 50% of the time

    tv's real fuckin important

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    ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
    Buttlord wrote: »
    Zonugal wrote: »
    Buttlord wrote: »
    videomancers get power by watching tv but if they ever miss their shows they lose power!

    I'm pretty sure I'm on the path to becoming a videomancer.
    videomancer charge generation:

    note: videomancers choose a show or shows to fetishize, these are the things they have to watch to get their power, if they miss any of the shows they're locked onto they lose their charges

    minor: watch a rerun of your show(s) one time, beginning to end, don't even miss a commercial

    major: see above, replace rerun with "new episode" (news broadcasts are always new episodes)

    significant: star in an episode of your chosen show(s). you have to be on screen for at least 50% of the time

    tv's real fuckin important

    So... Abed from Community is a videomancer?

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    laughingfuzzballlaughingfuzzball Registered User regular
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    I kind of doubt Hirohito personally thought he was a deity.

    Kami in the Shinto sense doesn't really fit with deity in the Western sense. The Emperor as kami means something more like that he's the personification of Japan in a more than merely political sense.

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    gtrmpgtrmp Registered User regular
    BYToady wrote: »
    Now lets talk about the parts of Unknown Armies that'll make everyone not want to play it.

    Sex mages. They gain charges by having anonymous sex, empty sex. And lose their powers by having any kind of meaningful sex. One of the 'artifacts' of the game is a porn video where the main porn star ascended to sexgodhood halfway through a scene.

    Well, the whole point of the various kinds of magic in UA is that they're ultimately born out of some kind of preternatural obsession. Avatars might be inscrutable, almost to the point of being alien, but adepts are all broken people on some level, and some kinds of obsessions are going to be much less pleasant in an actual game than others.

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    BYToadyBYToady Registered User regular
    Due to my various personal brain quirks, I would have an easier time playing a character that gets his magic from self-harm, then from meaningless sex.

    Why yes, my character has no legs, is missing 5 fingers between his hands, has no teeth, one eye, has cut off both ears, and is currently making plans to quaff a vial of bleech just to attain more magical power, but off scene anonymous sex? Haha no, that makes me uncomfortable.

    Battletag BYToady#1454
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    ToxTox I kill threads he/himRegistered User regular
    BYToady wrote: »
    Due to my various personal brain quirks, I would have an easier time playing a character that gets his magic from self-harm, then from meaningless sex.

    Why yes, my character has no legs, is missing 5 fingers between his hands, has no teeth, one eye, has cut off both ears, and is currently making plans to quaff a vial of bleech just to attain more magical power, but off scene anonymous sex? Haha no, that makes me uncomfortable.

    So...catholic?

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    BYToadyBYToady Registered User regular
    edited April 2013
    Probably more along the lines of no real exposure to healthy sexuality growing up. Single mom, reclusive kid, never dated, so on and so forth.

    I can't think of a single family member that doesn't have at least 1 divorce under their belt. Provided they've ever been married.

    I was raised as a Jehovah's Witness until I was like, 10, and then my mom got tired of dealing with the bullshit.

    Man those were fun times. Did you know that going to a place where your mom is ostracized entirely because she gave birth to you can kinda put a damper on a kid's enthusiasm?

    BYToady on
    Battletag BYToady#1454
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    Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    gtrmp wrote: »
    Blake T wrote: »
    Oh man,

    three days to go!

    Super sweet staircase up next!

    (I am excited about the kickstarter bros)

    I suppose this would be a bad time to tell you about the kickstarter that Itar's Dungeon has up for dungeon terrain and accessories. The walls are about half the height of the Dwarven Forge walls, but all their pieces (walls, floors, and accessories) are half the price of DF's equivalents, and they have a lot of odd little accessories available. Some of the pieces look, well, not so great - you can tell which pieces came out of a 3D printer - but overall there's some nice stuff in there that isn't in DF's kickstarter, and it looks like the pieces they have as add-ons in the kickstarter are cheaper there than they would be if you bought them through their store directly.

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    those are literally just painted casts from Hirst Arts molds

    I have that same mold right here

    and about fifty different crates and chests and buckets and crates I've been painting this evening

    you can get a mold for like $35, plaster for dirt cheap and have as many of those things as you could possibly ever want

    Goddamnit Rank.

    Now I want to buy some.

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    Caulk Bite 6Caulk Bite 6 One of the multitude of Dans infesting this place Registered User regular
    Druhim wrote: »
    Mysst wrote: »
    Antimatter wrote: »
    Mysst wrote: »
    Lars wrote: »
    Man, I haven't played D&D in years.

    Part of me wants to look up to see if there are any groups looking for players in my city, but I'm not sure I would want to be playing with a complete group of strangers. Plus I don't have any material newer than early 4th edition and I'm not about to buy new books only to attend one meeting and give it up due to not meshing with the group.

    Only reason to play 4.0 is if you don't have any 3.5 materials

    or if you think 4th edition is better.

    Well, yeah, if you don't have 3.5 materials

    Quick! Let's incite an argument over which version of D&D is better, instead of laughing about some one making the least topical movie ever.

    People like the D&D they like.

    Movies about D&D have historically been absolutely terrible. I can't think of one I like, or found worth watching.

    Just wait until I complete my D&D porn parody epic.

    Lord of the G-String.

    Not kidding, that is an actual thing.

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    BYToadyBYToady Registered User regular
    World of Warcraft parody porn exists.

    Pretty sure theres everquest parody porn.

    Parody porn is hilarious.

    Battletag BYToady#1454
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    ButtlordButtlord Fornicus Lord of Bondage and PainRegistered User regular
    edited April 2013
    reading through the street level unknown armies chapters again, because it's been forever since i have

    i think my favorite "there's dark and weird shit going on in the world that most people are blissfully unaware of" is the simplest one

    Bigfoot has a Social Security number

    (i also forgot how hard it pushed the "magic is for people who are crazy" angle even at the lowest tier)

    edit: I lied! "If you bury empty coffee canisters around your house, end to end, lids on, you will never see the Northern Lights from your house and the IRS will never audit you."

    or JFK was the Lindbergh baby who, through some ritual the kennedys performed, was able to channel his biological father's fame to increase his own popularity, a ritual the family still performs today

    Buttlord on
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    King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    Buttlord wrote: »
    adepts are basically awesome because it's just

    hey

    you want to play as a fundamentally broken human being

    you get to do maaaaa-giiiiiiic

    videomancers get power by watching tv but if they ever miss their shows they lose power!

    With hulu YouTube and streaming in general Videomancers would be broken.

    I have a podcast now. It's about video games and anime!Find it here.
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    laughingfuzzballlaughingfuzzball Registered User regular
    Buttlord wrote: »
    adepts are basically awesome because it's just

    hey

    you want to play as a fundamentally broken human being

    you get to do maaaaa-giiiiiiic

    videomancers get power by watching tv but if they ever miss their shows they lose power!

    With hulu YouTube and streaming in general Videomancers would be broken.

    Nah. Houserule that it's assumed that your character has seen every episode to date from the start (reasonable, considering). It makes it a little easier to make up for missing an episode, but doesn't make it any easier to "see a new episode". If somebody gets abusive with it just throw a "hey, they seem to have dropped it from hulu/decided not to put this season on dvd/gotten quick with the cease and desist letters" and make them do something more creative to juice up. Or, you could even do a "pirating betrays the creators of you beloved show" thing and have it be a depowering thing.

    You could even use streaming internet as part of fun things, like an adventure to recover a "lost episode" if the show in question has such things, or unpublished deleted scenes, or mysteriously unaired news footage. That last one even has potential to tie into other threads

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    ButtlordButtlord Fornicus Lord of Bondage and PainRegistered User regular
    the idea is also supposed to be more about the ritualized nature of sitting down to watch your favorite show on TV than just "watch your show whenever thanks internet"

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    BYToadyBYToady Registered User regular
    If I was a videomancer, I'd be tracking down the first few episodes of MST3k, which were lost.

    Battletag BYToady#1454
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    TallahasseerielTallahasseeriel Registered User regular
    Imagine the immense power you could gain from tracking down missing Doctor Who episodes!

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    Fire TruckFire Truck I love my SELFRegistered User regular
    Buttlord wrote: »
    DE?AD wrote: »
    I think my favorite part of Unknown Armies is still the weird rumors they put in the sidebars.

    I would probably buy an Unknown Armies expansion book that was just that.

    i found a whole list of these once, i think my favorite was that the flying dutchman is real, but it's not just one guy. there's hundreds of them all around the world, doomed to travel through their mode of transport forever

    so there's some poor schmuck who's stuck riding the subway in nyc

    forever


    also there was something about them being all-knowing about things in their purview? but i really just like that idea of the flying dutchman being stuck in an endless series of airport terminals or subway stations

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VMSGrY-IlU


    :?:

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    StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    Is there like, a mission statement from the game's creators as to why they created all of these weird magics? I have some theories, but I'd be curious to see what they have to say.

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    Fire TruckFire Truck I love my SELFRegistered User regular
    Because a campaign that takes place on a single subway car following Charlie and his adventures would be aces.

    Better yet, Charlie is trying to escape by trapping a group of PCs on the car in his place.

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    MorivethMoriveth BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWNRegistered User regular
    I do think Unknown Armies sounds really cool. Especially given that one of the creators worked on Delta Green as well.

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    Dongs GaloreDongs Galore Registered User regular
    Delta Green and Unknown Armies are both games I've always wanted to play

    but these vanilla-ass college groups of mine couldn't even stick Deadlands

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Delta Green is the best RPG ever written

    like, in terms of the quality of the writing

    it is fucking a-ma-zing

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Also where the fuck is my Exalted Kickstarter Onyx Path you slack bastards

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    BYToadyBYToady Registered User regular
    Everyone has to go into Unknown Armies understanding that you're going to be playing unbalanced people, and the themes of the games are probably going to end up being less combat oriented and more psychological thrillers. Even if you're just playing a non-magical guy off the street, you're going to lose your shit from the sanity system.

    Battletag BYToady#1454
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    BYToadyBYToady Registered User regular
    Like, by the end of any episode of Fringe, your character is going to be Walter, without the super-genius, just the madness.

    Battletag BYToady#1454
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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    well

    that sounds pretty appealing, actually

    I like my psychological thrillers

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    ButtlordButtlord Fornicus Lord of Bondage and PainRegistered User regular
    Straightzi wrote: »
    Is there like, a mission statement from the game's creators as to why they created all of these weird magics? I have some theories, but I'd be curious to see what they have to say.

    there are things in this world mortal dudes are not supposed to know about and contact with them will drive you insane

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    StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    Buttlord wrote: »
    Straightzi wrote: »
    Is there like, a mission statement from the game's creators as to why they created all of these weird magics? I have some theories, but I'd be curious to see what they have to say.

    there are things in this world mortal dudes are not supposed to know about and contact with them will drive you insane

    Yeah I gathered that. I meant more why than what. It is, from what has been posted in this thread, an eclectic assortment, some of which make sense following certain themes and some of which... require some more stretching.

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