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Foot in the Door

Journeyman99Journeyman99 Registered User regular
Hey there, I'm looking to hop into the webcomic scene after a long time of telling myself "eh, eventually", and I'm having a few issues I could use some pointers on! For one, I need a way to make a website that I can easily manage. Another thing would be a readerbase, or at least a way to promote my stuff

any advice would be helpful!

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  • TPSouTPSou Mr Registered User regular
    In terms of easy-to-manage websites, it's hard to beat Wordpress. I held off for a long while, preferring to do everything myself but it's updated so much and is so customisable you'd need a really good reason to not use it. You can buy your own domain through someone like fasthosts and then putting a wordpress site onto it is really easy (so you still end up with a nice address like www.journeyman99.com and all the relevant e-mail addresses).

    Promoting is hard, like really hard. I've been running my website (not a webcomic usually) for over a year and the conclusion that I've come to is you either rely on communities you know to spread the word (very slow and always the risk of turning into a spammer) but some places like Reddit tolerate a little bit of it as long as it's not all you post there, or you can pay for advertising which is fairly effective, but costs money. There's also places like Deviantart to get some exposure.

    In a year I've gone from having 6-7 unique visitors a day, to 1200 or so a day when something takes off via Reddit usually, to about 30-100 a day at the moment. Thankfully I'm not selling advertising or anything like that, it's just a hobby so there's no pressure, but getting a readerbase is tough!

  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    The best way to get a readerbase is to start drawing comics, be upfront about your schedule of publication, and stick to it.

    Nothing kills a readerbase faster than irregular or infrequent updates. You don't have to do daily - you don't even have to do weekly, but whatever you do it has to be regular and predictable so people know when to check in.

    I can't tell you how many times I've started reading a webcomic and lost interest when they updated at random. Sometimes it'd be every second day, sometimes they'd go a week between updates. They'd always have a REASON in the newspost attached to each new comic, for why they were late but honestly I'm not interested in the reasons - I don't want to check a webcomic every day for updates. Penny Arcade has done so well in part because they are like clockwork. You can always tune in every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday for a dose of PA.

  • zepherinzepherin Russian warship, go fuck yourself Registered User regular
    I'll give the same advice I always give. It is a tough profession. Don't plan to make money for at least 2 years. And have 6 months of comics and updates done before you start. You are going to have fuck it days and sick days. If its a hobby you are doing for you. Go for it have fun tinkering. However you sound like you want to do it as a profession. There is a high attrition rate. A lot of web comics fail because their authors don't want to spend the time creating comics for a site that doesn't make any money.

  • Journeyman99Journeyman99 Registered User regular
    thanks guys, you're all great- but what about the website problem? I don't know jack about HTML, and none of these themes on wordpress are really what I need!

  • CreaganCreagan Registered User regular
    Comic press is supposed to be really good. Most of the web cartoonists I read use comic press to power their sites.

  • EncEnc A Fool with Compassion Pronouns: He, Him, HisRegistered User regular
    edited April 2013
    There are two routes you can go:

    1) Get on something like ComicGenesis: http://www.comicgenesis.com/about.html
    Essentially this is something of a startup hosting system for those who want to do webcomics, advertise, and grow without really investing a lot of money at the start. If you are just now beginning it's probably a pretty good idea to start here as it can get you an idea of what is required (roughly) to have weekly scheduled comics, the requirements for peer review, a forum for development, etc. Essentially this is comic "training wheels" as it will connect you with peers at the same level of startup as yourself in comics, along with some that are a bit further along. Its a good place to see what people are doing right (but more importantly, what they are doing wrong). It will also get you a base pretty quick as everyone on there is peer-reviewing eachother's comics, and if you are good people will start reading yours regularly.

    2) Buy hosting, install the back-end version of Wordpress, and use comicpress to do the same thing. http://comicpress.org/
    This costs money, and will be what you need to do (or something similar) when you actually go about getting pro. But until you have 30-50 strips and a small following it probably isn't worth the money. Getting advertising would require something like Project Wonderful or getting savvy with google advertising. Big learning curve and no real promise of pickup in readership. If it does pick up, though, you are more likely to be taken seriously and to get a mainstream audience.

    I'd recommend the first, especially if you haven't done comics for long and don't have a huge background in them.

    Enc on
  • amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
    Use comic easel over comic press. Comicpress was developed by Tyler Martin (mindfaucet is his company) YEARS ago and for the past 5 or 6 years primary development and updates were done by Phil (@frumph on twitter) so eventually he got tired of primarily working on other people's stuff and developed Comic Easel. It works pretty much the same way but you can plug it into any wordpress site so you don't need to mod that generic comicpress theme or know as much about CSS/HTML/PHP.

    Having said that, just use tumblr. It works quite well for Zak Gorman and Skottie Young and you don't have to mess with it as much.

    are YOU on the beer list?
  • Prof. AwesomeProf. Awesome Registered User regular
    I agree with not using Comicpress, it is old and kludgy, almost turned me off Wordpress as a comic publishing platform altogether.
    You could use a plugin called Webcomic instead. I'm using it myself and I love it.

    You can get the plugin here: http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/webcomic/
    And the theme for it: http://wordpress.org/extend/themes/inkblot

    The inkblot theme is highly customizable and if you don't know html / css you can still do quite a bit with the built in theme customizer. ( Appearance >> Customize )
    At first get yourself a shared hosting plan with dreamhost or something. A lot of hosts offer 1-click Wordpress installs, no html required there either.

  • Journeyman99Journeyman99 Registered User regular
    okay, you guys have been awesome with everything but this is a tad confusing! The wordpress download seems to be just a zip folder with a bunch of html files in it. Not sure what I'm supposed to be doing exactly!

  • EncEnc A Fool with Compassion Pronouns: He, Him, HisRegistered User regular
  • bebarcebebarce Registered User regular
    From your panel, go to install plugins, browse your pc for the zip file, and select it and run it. The packaged zip file is what is used to install the plug in/theme/extension.

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