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  • TaramoorTaramoor Storyteller Registered User regular
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Wiki says MtG was introduced in '93, so I guess this year is its 20th birthday.

    Okay, I was just curious.

  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    Taramoor wrote: »
    So is next year Magic's 20th anniversary or something?

    They are doing something special at GenCon this year, and their From the Vaults this year is called 20, and contains a card from each year of Magic. Also, there's a rumor the Power 9 are being "printed" on Magic Online.

  • KelorKelor Registered User regular
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Wiki says MtG was introduced in '93, so I guess this year is its 20th birthday.

    Yeah, that's the whole spin on the next From the Vault is power/flagship cards from each year in Magic.

  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    I am having a great deal of difficulty finding someone to sell me a Modern Masters booster online.

  • ButtlordButtlord Fornicus Lord of Bondage and PainRegistered User regular
    Taramoor wrote: »
    So is next year Magic's 20th anniversary or something?
    Also, there's a rumor the Power 9 are being "printed" on Magic Online.

    this makes no sense as they're basically never usable

    the only time they see play is in Power Cube

  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    Buttlord wrote: »
    Taramoor wrote: »
    So is next year Magic's 20th anniversary or something?
    Also, there's a rumor the Power 9 are being "printed" on Magic Online.

    this makes no sense as they're basically never usable

    the only time they see play is in Power Cube

    There is a "Classic" format on MTGO, which is basically Vintage sans Power. This would fully synchronize paper and online.

  • Minerva_SCMinerva_SC Registered User regular
    Even though it will kill my deck, I am so ready for Innistrad to rotate out. Maybe it's because this has been my first year of actual competitive magic, but the meta is so stale to me and feels like it's been going on forever. Innistrad was too good of a block, needs to be locked away in the deepest tombs of Wizard headquaters. Way too many good cards.

    "If a cherry pie filled cape is wrong, I don't want to be right.
    I'm dead serious."
  • DaebunzDaebunz Registered User regular
    edited June 2013
    I really loved innistrad for its setting/theme and making my favorite tribe that isnt giants relevant again

    that said yeah I am tired of it/m13

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  • The BetgirlThe Betgirl I'm Molly! Registered User regular
    i dont care just give me theros

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  • TaramoorTaramoor Storyteller Registered User regular
    edited June 2013
    Minerva_SC wrote: »
    Even though it will kill my deck, I am so ready for Innistrad to rotate out. Maybe it's because this has been my first year of actual competitive magic, but the meta is so stale to me and feels like it's been going on forever. Innistrad was too good of a block, needs to be locked away in the deepest tombs of Wizard headquaters. Way too many good cards.

    Theros is going to screw with the Meta in some very strange ways if I am any judge.*

    The next year is going to be nuts.

    *Note: I thought Biovisionary would be the best thing ever when I first saw it.

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  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    Phew. Drafted U/W Artifact aggro on MTGO in Modern Masters. I mean, I knew it already, but Rathi Trapper is literally the most annoying card ever to play against. Luckily Blinding Beam steals the day, as per usual.

  • WiseManTobesWiseManTobes Registered User regular
    Thistledown Duo can go die of cancer in a car fire.

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  • ShadowenShadowen Snores in the morning LoserdomRegistered User regular
    "I'm at twenty-five life. You're at two. ...now I have twenty-nine cards in hand and I'm at four life. Why? Fuck you, that's why."

  • DaebunzDaebunz Registered User regular
    edited June 2013
    griselbrand is one of my favorite cards of all time

    right up there with countryside crusher

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  • Big Red TieBig Red Tie beautiful clydesdale style feet too hot to trotRegistered User regular
    Thistledown Duo can go die of cancer in a car fire.
    fate transfer the chainbreaker

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  • nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    Minerva_SC wrote: »
    Even though it will kill my deck, I am so ready for Innistrad to rotate out. Maybe it's because this has been my first year of actual competitive magic, but the meta is so stale to me and feels like it's been going on forever. Innistrad was too good of a block, needs to be locked away in the deepest tombs of Wizard headquaters. Way too many good cards.

    Really?

    Its easily the most active metagame in years.

    Last year the undisputed best deck was Delver about the whole time. It wasn't pretty.

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  • TaramoorTaramoor Storyteller Registered User regular
    Okay. I have 3 weeks to complete my submissions for M15.

    Go go Gadget Thesaurus!

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  • ShadowenShadowen Snores in the morning LoserdomRegistered User regular
    Good luck!

  • WiseManTobesWiseManTobes Registered User regular
    Don't name anything Thragtusk!

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  • TaramoorTaramoor Storyteller Registered User regular
    Don't name anything Thragtusk!

    You're not the boss of me!

    First planeswalker I see in the file: Thragtusk, The Mind Sculptor

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  • KelorKelor Registered User regular
    Minerva_SC wrote: »
    Even though it will kill my deck, I am so ready for Innistrad to rotate out. Maybe it's because this has been my first year of actual competitive magic, but the meta is so stale to me and feels like it's been going on forever. Innistrad was too good of a block, needs to be locked away in the deepest tombs of Wizard headquaters. Way too many good cards.

    Really?

    Its easily the most active metagame in years.

    Last year the undisputed best deck was Delver about the whole time. It wasn't pretty.

    Yeah, I totally fall on this side too. Meta is still diverse, control is a little weak, but still playable, you just have to be proactive rather than sitting between a wall of counter spells.

    I mean, I'm hella ready to get my Greek on, but until then I'll enjoy my gothic horror.

  • nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    Kelor wrote: »
    Minerva_SC wrote: »
    Even though it will kill my deck, I am so ready for Innistrad to rotate out. Maybe it's because this has been my first year of actual competitive magic, but the meta is so stale to me and feels like it's been going on forever. Innistrad was too good of a block, needs to be locked away in the deepest tombs of Wizard headquaters. Way too many good cards.

    Really?

    Its easily the most active metagame in years.

    Last year the undisputed best deck was Delver about the whole time. It wasn't pretty.

    Yeah, I totally fall on this side too. Meta is still diverse, control is a little weak, but still playable, you just have to be proactive rather than sitting between a wall of counter spells.

    I mean, I'm hella ready to get my Greek on, but until then I'll enjoy my gothic horror.

    I'm actually really afraid of the new meta for this reason. I want something new but my understanding of the last few standards was "Caw Go is best deck" to "CawBlade is best Deck" to "Cawblade is so best deck Jace has been banned" to "Delver is best".

    I started last year but that is the picture I'm getting and it sounds like its hard to a avoid a "X is the best" status quo.

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  • STATE OF THE ART ROBOTSTATE OF THE ART ROBOT Registered User regular
    Taramoor wrote: »
    Don't name anything Thragtusk!

    You're not the boss of me!

    First planeswalker I see in the file: Thragtusk, The Mind Sculptor

    +20: Make a 3/3 beast token. Look at the top card of target player's Library. Make a 3/3 Beast token. Put that card on the top or bottom of that player's library. Make a 3/3 beast token. Make a 3/3 beast token.

  • KwoaruKwoaru Confident Smirk Flawless Golden PecsRegistered User regular
    Taramoor wrote: »
    Don't name anything Thragtusk!

    You're not the boss of me!

    First planeswalker I see in the file: Thragtusk, The Mind Sculptor

    +20: Make a 3/3 beast token. Look at the top card of target player's Library. Make a 3/3 Beast token. Put that card on the top or bottom of that player's library. Make a 3/3 beast token. Make a 3/3 beast token.

    -1: put into play every thragtusk you own from outside the game

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  • The BetgirlThe Betgirl I'm Molly! Registered User regular
    -2: Put every Thragtusk from every player's collection in the same room as you into the game.

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  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    Taramoor, your card title has been edited. It is now "Thrag, the Tusk Sculptor."

  • KelorKelor Registered User regular
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Taramoor, your card title has been edited. It is now "Thrag, the Tusk Sculptor."

    * The Text Sculptor

  • DiorinixDiorinix Registered User regular
    Kelor wrote: »
    Minerva_SC wrote: »
    Even though it will kill my deck, I am so ready for Innistrad to rotate out. Maybe it's because this has been my first year of actual competitive magic, but the meta is so stale to me and feels like it's been going on forever. Innistrad was too good of a block, needs to be locked away in the deepest tombs of Wizard headquaters. Way too many good cards.

    Really?

    Its easily the most active metagame in years.

    Last year the undisputed best deck was Delver about the whole time. It wasn't pretty.

    Yeah, I totally fall on this side too. Meta is still diverse, control is a little weak, but still playable, you just have to be proactive rather than sitting between a wall of counter spells.

    I mean, I'm hella ready to get my Greek on, but until then I'll enjoy my gothic horror.

    I'm actually really afraid of the new meta for this reason. I want something new but my understanding of the last few standards was "Caw Go is best deck" to "CawBlade is best Deck" to "Cawblade is so best deck Jace has been banned" to "Delver is best".

    I started last year but that is the picture I'm getting and it sounds like its hard to a avoid a "X is the best" status quo.

    "X is the best deck" happens when you get the saturation of tournament data filtering through to the competitive grinders. With Starcity Games opens happening nearly every weekend and all mtgo standard constructed daily queues being posted, the grinders were better able to diffuse the data and identify the best strategies. It also didn't help that the tools in the format were skewed towards tempo blue more than most of the other choices.

    Nowadays, only 1 daily queue has its decklists posted per day, and the tools are much more spread out across the format - with green and red having access to better tools to beat blue than during cawblade/delver seasons - cavern of souls, burning tree emissary, thragtusk, thundermaw, reckoner...all red and green had during caw/delver was Primeval Titan, and that was beatable through countermagic and tempo.

    If we're going to see a continuation of this wild west style format where everything goes, we'll need to see a top-tier level card that can be splashed into multiple decks with a single color requirement that is a huge hurdle for aggro to punch through and is resiliant to tempo/control strategies. I know everyone and their dog hates him, but Thragtusk really is the glue of this format. It gives reanimator a very resliant threat that buys the player tons of time, and gives midrange a card that can pressure the control decks AND climb out of the life-loss hole that aggro presents. With 'tusk in the format, aggro decks need to plan on doing 30 damage over the course of a game which skews control away from just "anti-tusk" decks. At the end of the day, if 'tusk wasn't around we'd only have a coinflip environment - on the play or on the draw, bte into 2 drop or verdict decks.

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    Fuck thragtusk

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  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    speaking of deck names, what does it mean when a deck has the word "Junk" in it?

  • WuShockWuShock Lawful Good South BrownbackistanRegistered User regular
    Hey, who is going to be around for PAX Prime? Me and the Boy would love to play some honest-to-goodness EDH with like-minded people there (as opposed to the usual Commander "League" which is mostly, "Oh, cool. Cheap commander decks! Gimme one").

    I played my Omnath deck last night and, thanks to some really early ramp and Boundless Realms, I got literally every land in my deck out. I won't lie, it was extremely satisfying, especially with Doubling Cube.

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  • jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
    KalTorak wrote: »
    speaking of deck names, what does it mean when a deck has the word "Junk" in it?

    It just means the deck is W/B/G.

  • DiorinixDiorinix Registered User regular
    Its a reference to the color wedge - Junk typically refers to green-white-black decks.
    MtG History time!

    Once upon a time there was this deck called "The Rock". It was a green-black deck featuring phyrexian plaguelord (check the art for how the deck got its name), and the game plan for this deck was to Kill All the Things, then mop up with value dudes. Later on it was ressurrected with Spiritmonger as the central card (again, check the art and think of the wrestler). Throughout this time people were trying to fit in other value cards, and one of the more popular colors was white. At some point a commentator or an article writer described a winning deck as "a bunch of junky cards jammed together", and Junk stuck as a description of the green-white-black wedge.

    There are actually names for each wedge, just like the alara shards. Here they are:
    Bant - white-blue-gree
    Naya - green-white-red
    Esper - blue-white-black
    Grixis - black-red-blue
    Jund - red-green-black

    Dega - white-black-red
    Raka - red-blue-white
    Necra - black-white-green
    Ana - green-blue-black
    Ceta - blue-red-green

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  • jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
    I miss The Rock decks. I'm hoping that if Theros slows down the format a hair, it can be competitive again. It has all of the right resources right now.

  • The BetgirlThe Betgirl I'm Molly! Registered User regular
    Diorinix wrote: »
    Its a reference to the color wedge - Junk typically refers to green-white-black decks.
    MtG History time!

    Once upon a time there was this deck called "The Rock". It was a green-black deck featuring phyrexian plaguelord (check the art for how the deck got its name), and the game plan for this deck was to Kill All the Things, then mop up with value dudes. Later on it was ressurrected with Spiritmonger as the central card (again, check the art and think of the wrestler). Throughout this time people were trying to fit in other value cards, and one of the more popular colors was white. At some point a commentator or an article writer described a winning deck as "a bunch of junky cards jammed together", and Junk stuck as a description of the green-white-black wedge.

    There are actually names for each wedge, just like the alara shards. Here they are:
    Bant - white-blue-gree
    Naya - green-white-red
    Esper - blue-white-black
    Grixis - black-red-blue
    Jund - red-green-black

    Dega - white-black-red
    Raka - red-blue-white
    Necra - black-white-green
    Ana - green-blue-black
    Ceta - blue-red-green

    gonna bookmark this post because i can't remember the names of wedges for the life of me

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  • DiorinixDiorinix Registered User regular
    No one does, I even had to look it up.

    I prefer to use junk to refer to green-white-black, bug for...well black-blue-green. Rug for red-blue-green, american/russian/french for blue-white-red and have started referring to red-white-black has borzhov (boros-orzhov). Whatever suits yer fancy.

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  • DiorinixDiorinix Registered User regular
    Also, you can look at this cycle in apocalypse for how the wedges were named:

    Apocalypse disciples

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  • GriswoldGriswold that's rough, buddyRegistered User regular
    edited June 2013
    Diorinix wrote: »
    "X is the best deck" happens when you get the saturation of tournament data filtering through to the competitive grinders. With Starcity Games opens happening nearly every weekend and all mtgo standard constructed daily queues being posted, the grinders were better able to diffuse the data and identify the best strategies. It also didn't help that the tools in the format were skewed towards tempo blue more than most of the other choices.
    This is largely true, although set sizes shrinking in the last few years is also a contributing factor.

    Nowadays, only 1 daily queue has its decklists posted per day, and the tools are much more spread out across the format - with green and red having access to better tools to beat blue than during cawblade/delver seasons - cavern of souls, burning tree emissary, thragtusk, thundermaw, reckoner...all red and green had during caw/delver was Primeval Titan, and that was beatable through countermagic and tempo.

    If we're going to see a continuation of this wild west style format where everything goes, we'll need to see a top-tier level card that can be splashed into multiple decks with a single color requirement that is a huge hurdle for aggro to punch through and is resiliant to tempo/control strategies. I know everyone and their dog hates him, but Thragtusk really is the glue of this format. It gives reanimator a very resliant threat that buys the player tons of time, and gives midrange a card that can pressure the control decks AND climb out of the life-loss hole that aggro presents. With 'tusk in the format, aggro decks need to plan on doing 30 damage over the course of a game which skews control away from just "anti-tusk" decks. At the end of the day, if 'tusk wasn't around we'd only have a coinflip environment - on the play or on the draw, bte into 2 drop or verdict decks.

    It doesn't fit your color requirement, but Voice of Resurgence meets all your other criteria. Good against aggro, good against control. I think G/W/x will be a deck for all values of x in the coming Standard environment.

    You also implied it in your post, but Burning-Tree Emissary is currently the most warping card in the format. It kills all non-R/x, G/x or R/G aggro decks by making unplayable any two-drops that can't be cast off of it.

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  • DiorinixDiorinix Registered User regular
    Didn't want to make it so explicit, but yeah - BTE does warp the aggro decks towards power two drops. Any "free" spells have always warped the format they exist in weird ways (the urza's block "untap X lands" spells, phyrexian mana, etc).

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