Mx. QuillI now prefer "Myr. Quill", actually...{They/Them}Registered Userregular
I'd say I took about 3 and a half hours, what with looking all over for secrets. I did not find one of the Plasmids though (spoilers just in case):
Bucking bronco.
The new weapon they added was super silly and kinda useless, but fun to just run around with. Hehe.
Now, time for super-spoilers. You've been warned.
So I kinda automatically assumed something would happen to Booker since you play as Elizabeth in Part 2, but I did not forsee him actually being Alternate Universe Comstock at all. Man, way to go ahead and still catch me off guard even expecting some crazy twist.
I'd say I took about 3 and a half hours, what with looking all over for secrets. I did not find one of the Plasmids though (spoilers just in case):
Bucking bronco.
The new weapon they added was super silly and kinda useless, but fun to just run around with. Hehe.
I combed everywhere and never found the bronco, I'm pretty confident I didn't miss anything unless it maybe it was in a pre-combat section? That's the only area that I wasn't super thorough about.
I'd say I took about 3 and a half hours, what with looking all over for secrets. I did not find one of the Plasmids though (spoilers just in case):
Bucking bronco.
The new weapon they added was super silly and kinda useless, but fun to just run around with. Hehe.
I combed everywhere and never found the bronco, I'm pretty confident I didn't miss anything unless it maybe it was in a pre-combat section? That's the only area that I wasn't super thorough about.
In the area near one of the vents that had electrified water on the ground. You had to ice the water and the bronco was there
The ending really confused me
Uh-oh I accidentally deleted my signature. Uh-oh!!
I'd say I took about 3 and a half hours, what with looking all over for secrets. I did not find one of the Plasmids though (spoilers just in case):
Bucking bronco.
The new weapon they added was super silly and kinda useless, but fun to just run around with. Hehe.
I combed everywhere and never found the bronco, I'm pretty confident I didn't miss anything unless it maybe it was in a pre-combat section? That's the only area that I wasn't super thorough about.
In the area near one of the vents that had electrified water on the ground. You had to ice the water and the bronco was there
The ending really confused me
Aww crap I know exactly the area, Not sure why I didn't think to freeze the water.
The end confused me too, although that is partially because its been so long since I finished the base game that I remember the ending but not some of the minute details. It is interesting how they managed to tie in rapture with the infinite story, and man does it make me want to play part 2.
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I should clarify on where exactly I am confused about the ending to the DLC (mega spoilers for the whole series)
I get that you are a particular version of Comstock that failed (and killed) to bring Anna over to the other side. In your grief, you then turn to the twins to plant you somewhere so your memories will be replaced by new ones - and they choose Rapture.
Okay fine.
But I thought the entire point of Elizabeth drowning Booker at his baptism was to remove every single instance of Comstock that could ever be. Without giving Booker the choice, there could not be a timeline(s) where Comstock even exists.
So how in the hell are you Comstock?
Uh-oh I accidentally deleted my signature. Uh-oh!!
Hopping universes has made (at least one) instance of Comstock immune to causality. So now Elizabeth is universe hopping to "finish the job" so to speak.
The glare she gives you as her face was covered in your blood gave me chills. It also has me ponder if this will be enough for her, or if Comstock was right all along and she will end up fulfilling the prophecy of his. After all, he said he saw how it all ends.
Tasteticle on
Uh-oh I accidentally deleted my signature. Uh-oh!!
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Mx. QuillI now prefer "Myr. Quill", actually...{They/Them}Registered Userregular
I should clarify on where exactly I am confused about the ending to the DLC (mega spoilers for the whole series)
I get that you are a particular version of Comstock that failed (and killed) to bring Anna over to the other side. In your grief, you then turn to the twins to plant you somewhere so your memories will be replaced by new ones - and they choose Rapture.
Okay fine.
But I thought the entire point of Elizabeth drowning Booker at his baptism was to remove every single instance of Comstock that could ever be. Without giving Booker the choice, there could not be a timeline(s) where Comstock even exists.
So how in the hell are you Comstock?
The way I see it, one or more Comstocks managed to sneak through the cracks in a similar fashion to Infinite Elizabeth. Maybe universe-jumping somehow manages to screw with that sorta stuff, considering that yeah, Alternate Comstock and Infinite Elizabeth should not exist due to the drowning.
Perhaps we'll learn more from Elizabeth and the Luteces in Part 2.
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FencingsaxIt is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understandingGNU Terry PratchettRegistered Userregular
What the hell is a Christmas carol doing in Rapture?
I should clarify on where exactly I am confused about the ending to the DLC (mega spoilers for the whole series)
I get that you are a particular version of Comstock that failed (and killed) to bring Anna over to the other side. In your grief, you then turn to the twins to plant you somewhere so your memories will be replaced by new ones - and they choose Rapture.
Okay fine.
But I thought the entire point of Elizabeth drowning Booker at his baptism was to remove every single instance of Comstock that could ever be. Without giving Booker the choice, there could not be a timeline(s) where Comstock even exists.
So how in the hell are you Comstock?
The way I see it, one or more Comstocks managed to sneak through the cracks in a similar fashion to Infinite Elizabeth. Maybe universe-jumping somehow manages to screw with that sorta stuff, considering that yeah, Alternate Comstock and Infinite Elizabeth should not exist due to the drowning.
Perhaps we'll learn more from Elizabeth and the Luteces in Part 2.
Yeah that's what I figure. Although since Elizabeth and the Luteces are basically paradox creating machines, I am fine with them continuing to exist because they seem to be beyond causality now.
Uh-oh I accidentally deleted my signature. Uh-oh!!
I spent forever just walking around looking at shit and listening to peoples conversations. Rapture is so pretty and now I want to just go back an replay the original.
What the hell is a Christmas carol doing in Rapture?
I assume for the same reason Rapture uses the dollar and yet Columbia uses its own currency:
Because woops
Well, currency is kinda central to Ryan's vision. Christmas carols are definitely not.
But yeah, I finished this. It was pretty damn good.
I'm saying that Rapture, a city that refuses to conform to any nation, uses the dollar for it's currency
Whereas Columbia, a city that worships the founding fathers of America, uses their own currency
It seems backwards to me
Columbia uses the Silver Eagle because they are better than America, and the true followers of the the Founding Fathers.
Rapture uses the Dollar because, I dunno, it's money that Ryan is familiar with and why fuck with that?
It could just be a Rapture Dollar. Lots of countries use dollars as their currency. Canadian Dollars are not the same as American dollars, for example.
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as a canadian, I agree.
I also like that version. why invent a new word for your primarily american english speaking colony's money, when you have a perfectly good word right there.
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Mx. QuillI now prefer "Myr. Quill", actually...{They/Them}Registered Userregular
edited November 2013
I had another thought concerning the DLC ending:
With Comstock in Rapture instead of in Columbia, that Columbia would have gone 17-something years without its "founding father," if we went by when Infinite would take place.
I'd be really interested in getting a peek at what became of that universe without Comstock in charge of Columbia.
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Mx. QuillI now prefer "Myr. Quill", actually...{They/Them}Registered Userregular
So uh.
I may or may not have realized they brought back the Weapon Wheel.
Coincidentally, I may or may not have only used the Carbine and Shotgun, was confused as to why I couldn't swap for other weapons on the ground, and ran out of ammo in the last fight.
I may or may not have realized they brought back the Weapon Wheel.
Coincidentally, I may or may not have only used the Carbine and Shotgun, was confused as to why I couldn't swap for other weapons on the ground, and ran out of ammo in the last fight.
Yeah I didn't realize what was going on there for a minute after I got the carbine. I ended up melee-killing a few dozen enemies since I was out of Adam and ammo until I figured out how to choose a different weapon combo.
I definitely missed
the Radar Range (which looked like it was going to be a fun weapon) and Bucking Bronco somehow. I guess I'm going to have to go back and re-play it sometime.
I may or may not have realized they brought back the Weapon Wheel.
Coincidentally, I may or may not have only used the Carbine and Shotgun, was confused as to why I couldn't swap for other weapons on the ground, and ran out of ammo in the last fight.
I went almost the entire DLC without realizing that. Why the fuck wouldn't they just let you scroll through all the weapons or at least explicitly tell you there's now a weapon wheel?
I should clarify on where exactly I am confused about the ending to the DLC (mega spoilers for the whole series)
I get that you are a particular version of Comstock that failed (and killed) to bring Anna over to the other side. In your grief, you then turn to the twins to plant you somewhere so your memories will be replaced by new ones - and they choose Rapture.
Okay fine.
But I thought the entire point of Elizabeth drowning Booker at his baptism was to remove every single instance of Comstock that could ever be. Without giving Booker the choice, there could not be a timeline(s) where Comstock even exists.
So how in the hell are you Comstock?
Because alternate universes blah blah blah this game has shitty writing.
I should clarify on where exactly I am confused about the ending to the DLC (mega spoilers for the whole series)
I get that you are a particular version of Comstock that failed (and killed) to bring Anna over to the other side. In your grief, you then turn to the twins to plant you somewhere so your memories will be replaced by new ones - and they choose Rapture.
Okay fine.
But I thought the entire point of Elizabeth drowning Booker at his baptism was to remove every single instance of Comstock that could ever be. Without giving Booker the choice, there could not be a timeline(s) where Comstock even exists.
So how in the hell are you Comstock?
Because alternate universes blah blah blah this game has shitty writing.
I should clarify on where exactly I am confused about the ending to the DLC (mega spoilers for the whole series)
I get that you are a particular version of Comstock that failed (and killed) to bring Anna over to the other side. In your grief, you then turn to the twins to plant you somewhere so your memories will be replaced by new ones - and they choose Rapture.
Okay fine.
But I thought the entire point of Elizabeth drowning Booker at his baptism was to remove every single instance of Comstock that could ever be. Without giving Booker the choice, there could not be a timeline(s) where Comstock even exists.
So how in the hell are you Comstock?
The way I see it, one or more Comstocks managed to sneak through the cracks in a similar fashion to Infinite Elizabeth. Maybe universe-jumping somehow manages to screw with that sorta stuff, considering that yeah, Alternate Comstock and Infinite Elizabeth should not exist due to the drowning.
Perhaps we'll learn more from Elizabeth and the Luteces in Part 2.
Yeah that's what I figure. Although since Elizabeth and the Luteces are basically paradox creating machines, I am fine with them continuing to exist because they seem to be beyond causality now.
This alternate universes crap is stupid and terrible, it justifies all the nonsense and poorly thought out stuff in this DLC and makes Rapture into a superficial setting.
I don't understand quantum physics. Therefore quantum physics is stupid and made up.
Learn to develop suspension of disbelief.
Quantum physics is quite easy to understand, but when applied to character driven video games it diminishes the emotional stakes and inherent weight of what's happening.
The idea of alternate dimensions is used for nothing more than a twist, and basically the same twist at the end of Infinite. If the Lutece's are just fucking around in all these different realities while Booker is a pawn playing out the same fate again and again, I kind of stop giving a shit. Make a new story. Bioshock 2's DLC was brilliant. This is not.
I don't understand quantum physics. Therefore quantum physics is stupid and made up.
Learn to develop suspension of disbelief.
Quantum physics is quite easy to understand, but when applied to character driven video games it diminishes the emotional stakes and inherent weight of what's happening.
The idea of alternate dimensions is used for nothing more than a twist, and basically the same twist at the end of Infinite. If the Lutece's are just fucking around in all these different realities while Booker is a pawn playing out the same fate again and again, I kind of stop giving a shit. Make a new story. Bioshock 2's DLC was brilliant. This is not.
I didn't make the game and I don't live close-enough to Irrational's offices to deliver your suggestions. Maybe one of the forumers still living in the Metro-Boston area can help though.
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The new weapon they added was super silly and kinda useless, but fun to just run around with. Hehe.
Now, time for super-spoilers. You've been warned.
Can't wait for Part 2.
Mostly I'm running around going WHERE'S MY AMMO I DON'T HAVE ANY AMMO AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH
The ending really confused me
Uh-oh I accidentally deleted my signature. Uh-oh!!
The end confused me too, although that is partially because its been so long since I finished the base game that I remember the ending but not some of the minute details. It is interesting how they managed to tie in rapture with the infinite story, and man does it make me want to play part 2.
Okay fine.
But I thought the entire point of Elizabeth drowning Booker at his baptism was to remove every single instance of Comstock that could ever be. Without giving Booker the choice, there could not be a timeline(s) where Comstock even exists.
So how in the hell are you Comstock?
Uh-oh I accidentally deleted my signature. Uh-oh!!
The glare she gives you as her face was covered in your blood gave me chills. It also has me ponder if this will be enough for her, or if Comstock was right all along and she will end up fulfilling the prophecy of his. After all, he said he saw how it all ends.
Uh-oh I accidentally deleted my signature. Uh-oh!!
Perhaps we'll learn more from Elizabeth and the Luteces in Part 2.
I assume for the same reason Rapture uses the dollar and yet Columbia uses its own currency:
Because woops
Uh-oh I accidentally deleted my signature. Uh-oh!!
Uh-oh I accidentally deleted my signature. Uh-oh!!
Well, currency is kinda central to Ryan's vision. Christmas carols are definitely not.
But yeah, I finished this. It was pretty damn good.
I'm saying that Rapture, a city that refuses to conform to any nation, uses the dollar for it's currency
Whereas Columbia, a city that worships the founding fathers of America, uses their own currency
It seems backwards to me
Uh-oh I accidentally deleted my signature. Uh-oh!!
Columbia uses the Silver Eagle because they are better than America, and the true followers of the the Founding Fathers.
Rapture uses the Dollar because, I dunno, it's money that Ryan is familiar with and why fuck with that?
I feel this is my punishment for bragging about having super great internet now and then, the past few years.
It could just be a Rapture Dollar. Lots of countries use dollars as their currency. Canadian Dollars are not the same as American dollars, for example.
I also like that version. why invent a new word for your primarily american english speaking colony's money, when you have a perfectly good word right there.
I'd be really interested in getting a peek at what became of that universe without Comstock in charge of Columbia.
That was something.
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I may or may not have realized they brought back the Weapon Wheel.
Coincidentally, I may or may not have only used the Carbine and Shotgun, was confused as to why I couldn't swap for other weapons on the ground, and ran out of ammo in the last fight.
Yeah I didn't realize what was going on there for a minute after I got the carbine. I ended up melee-killing a few dozen enemies since I was out of Adam and ammo until I figured out how to choose a different weapon combo.
I definitely missed
which.... somehow turned into a doll?
Okay, but in the memory
Oh yeah.
Might all of it be her, if this Booker is dead?
I went almost the entire DLC without realizing that. Why the fuck wouldn't they just let you scroll through all the weapons or at least explicitly tell you there's now a weapon wheel?
Because alternate universes blah blah blah this game has shitty writing.
Still no.
Steam - Talon Valdez :Blizz - Talonious#1860 : Xbox Live & LoL - Talonious Monk @TaloniousMonk Hail Satan
Learn to develop suspension of disbelief.
Quantum physics is quite easy to understand, but when applied to character driven video games it diminishes the emotional stakes and inherent weight of what's happening.
I didn't make the game and I don't live close-enough to Irrational's offices to deliver your suggestions. Maybe one of the forumers still living in the Metro-Boston area can help though.