Is A Better Home Awaiting In The Sky? [Bioshock: Infinite]

Ms Dapper

Just finally beat this after getting my game, three things:

1. The difficulty on this game doesn't fuck around
2. This brought up my fear of things not meat to be underwater being underwater.
3. That was some ending.

Goatmon wrote: »

Fencingsax wrote: »

Grey Ghost wrote: »

I'm actually not clear on why Elizabeth is doing this

this version of Comstock, at the very least, is in no position to be the threat to the world that any of the other versions were
He's not on Columbia, has no followers, has no memory of any of that stuff
Elizabeth eliminating this one just seems like petty revenge

Well to be fair, the Booker we played killed her instead of kidnapped her.

To be fair, that wasn't purely Comstock's fault.

I mean, if you were wrestling with some other dude for your baby girl and the two of you ended up literally ripping her apart, wouldn't you be at fault for that, at least partially?

I would more blame Comstock, who was kidnapping her, rather then Booker who was having second thoughts about giving her away.

Also everyone said it, but her face at the end gave me chills.

Goatmon

In hindsight, I think one of my favorite moments wasn't even a cutscene or a character-based thing.

It's what happens right after

the big daddy boss appears.

In-Game Alert: Big Daddies can now jump and shoot their drills at you.

Me: WHAT

TankHammer

I didn't see that alert

so when the drill came flying at me I just about shot a plasmid out of my ass.

Cello

I

want

that skirt. Ugh. I want everything about that outfit. EVERYTHING.

Goatmon

Wyborn wrote: »

I mean good Christ do you guys see what this shit means

The pattern is broken, shattered, and Elizabeth is going through setting it right

The girl is gone, so Comstock didn't have Elizabeth with him, and was dropped into a world where there literally was no girl, which means that there's a whole continuum of realities outside of the ones affected by Elizabeth's killing of (all but one) Booker

The problem of Comstock is more endemic than what she was able to fix by killing off every iteration affecting or affected by her

WHAT THE HELL IS SHE GOING TO DO IN THE NEXT ONE THIS IS SO BALLER

Also a few things to note

When Booker is callin out to Sally, his speech patterns change, both midway through the DLC and at the end - he calls her "child" and "dear" and "girl", which isn't something Booker says, but is the kind of paternalistic nonsense Comstock defaults to constantly

And it explains why Booker is so much weaker in this - because he's pushing 70, or more

And it explains why Elizabeth is so constantly cold to him, refusing to call him Booker, why she doesn't care much when he gets the Hell beaten out of him, and why she isn't bothered by his discomfort when they dance

He stares into the baptismal fountain where Booker kills him in all those other worlds

This DLC was so cool

I'm pretty sure that

Booker isn't quite that old, here.

Mind you, we have no idea how much time actually passed after accidentally getting Anna killed, but we do know that without her to raise, there was no twenty year gap as a result of her upbringing, so it's very possible that he had Lutece make him a portal to rapture very shortly afterwards, and may only be equivalent to around 50, give or take a few years.

Wyborn

Goatmon wrote: »

Wyborn wrote: »

I mean good Christ do you guys see what this shit means

The pattern is broken, shattered, and Elizabeth is going through setting it right

The girl is gone, so Comstock didn't have Elizabeth with him, and was dropped into a world where there literally was no girl, which means that there's a whole continuum of realities outside of the ones affected by Elizabeth's killing of (all but one) Booker

The problem of Comstock is more endemic than what she was able to fix by killing off every iteration affecting or affected by her

WHAT THE HELL IS SHE GOING TO DO IN THE NEXT ONE THIS IS SO BALLER

Also a few things to note

When Booker is callin out to Sally, his speech patterns change, both midway through the DLC and at the end - he calls her "child" and "dear" and "girl", which isn't something Booker says, but is the kind of paternalistic nonsense Comstock defaults to constantly

And it explains why Booker is so much weaker in this - because he's pushing 70, or more

And it explains why Elizabeth is so constantly cold to him, refusing to call him Booker, why she doesn't care much when he gets the Hell beaten out of him, and why she isn't bothered by his discomfort when they dance

He stares into the baptismal fountain where Booker kills him in all those other worlds

This DLC was so cool

I'm pretty sure that

Booker isn't quite that old, here.

Mind you, we have no idea how much time actually passed after accidentally getting Anna killed, but we do know that without her to raise, there was no twenty year gap as a result of her upbringing, so it's very possible that he had Lutece make him a portal to rapture very shortly afterwards, and may only be equivalent to around 50, give or take a few years.

Well, even allowing that

He's spent several years in Rapture - I believe he mentions a few specific years it may have been that he arrived

Even if he's not a 70-year-old he'd still be in his late 50s or mid-60s

That's plenty old enough to not be quite as bad-ass as your unstoppable 30-year-old war veteran self

joshofalltrades

MrDapper wrote: »

Best Cosplay 2013

Tasteticle

Grey Ghost wrote: »

I'm actually not clear on why Elizabeth is doing this

this version of Comstock, at the very least, is in no position to be the threat to the world that any of the other versions were
He's not on Columbia, has no followers, has no memory of any of that stuff
Elizabeth eliminating this one just seems like petty revenge

There was a brief exchange near the beginning of the game that addresses this. You ask her why she is doing this, and she says something to the effect of "keeping a promise". It looks like when Booker said he wanted to get rid of all versions of Comstock (by "smothering him in his crib"), Elizabeth is making sure that every instance is destroyed (ie, the ones that escaped due to a paradox) out of a mixture of obligation and hatred.

Metalbourne

Cello wrote: »

I

want

that skirt. Ugh. I want everything about that outfit. EVERYTHING.

I can totally see you rocking that outfit, too.

Ms Dapper

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYqwTxV47fs

Wyborn

Oh

SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT

DouglasDanger

I just got this game, thanks to PS Plus or whatever we are calling it now. I've played it for about an hour, and this is some good shit here.

DouglasDanger

This is amazing. I sort of wish I had bought it when it was new, so I had someone to talk to about it.

Sorce

Oh there are people here with OPINIONS, don't worry.

Wyborn

DD if you have particular opinions on anything, just @ me

I love hearing people talk about the game, especially when they enjoy it

Fencingsax

Oh man, do we have OPINIONS about this game.

DouglasDanger

Booker just reunited with Elizabeth. This game is intense. The combat is really fun. And the vigors turning Booker's left arm into a weird mutated thing really enhances the immersion.

Wyborn

Elizabeth is one of my favorite characters from last year

Mr. G

What was it with video games and excellent female leads whose names start with "El-"

DouglasDanger

I noticed something funny about the middle of the game.

The alternate Booker's little vox-tape portrait is totally Handsome Young Hipster Stalin. I chuckled a bit. Maybe I am seeing things, but I feel that was deliberate.

I'm stuck late in the game.

How I am supposed to defeat Lady Comstock? I've tried all of my vigors, I think, I don't see any helpful tears aside from the usual guns and health ones, and shooting her doesn't seem to do much. Her zombie minions keep killing Booker.

I'm also thinking about buying that combat DLC, because a lot of the guns are really cool, and while I see myself re-playing this game, I want to use more of the guns and vigors.

wirehead26

Sweet, Troy Baker will be coming to one of my local anime cons in May.

Wyborn

The answer to all of those fights is pretty much fire bombs

Or, if you are feeling spicy, the floating power, chained to other people when the floating person dies, and then just go shotgun crazy.

Take out the zombies and Lady Comstock ain't shit

Caulk Bite 6

DouglasDanger wrote: »

I'm stuck late in the game.

How I am supposed to defeat Lady Comstock? I've tried all of my vigors, I think, I don't see any helpful tears aside from the usual guns and health ones, and shooting her doesn't seem to do much. Her zombie minions keep killing Booker.

just keep at it. keep an eye out for the adds, and just keep pumping bullets into her. while you'll likely have to go scavenge ammo a lot, there's no shortage of enemy bodies to loot and you'll get it eventually.

DouglasDanger

Wyborn wrote: »

The answer to all of those fights is pretty much fire bombs

Or, if you are feeling spicy, the floating power, chained to other people when the floating person dies, and then just go shotgun crazy.

Take out the zombies and Lady Comstock ain't shit

regarding your spoiler

I can't seem to kill the zombies fast enough. I have the burst rifle, which is a really great-looking and sounding gun, and the repeater, and I can have Elizabeth spawn a shotgun, but I am not having much luck. The murder of murder-crows has been my crutch, and it doesn't seem to work on these zombies.

Caulk Bite 6

I had good times with a rocket launcher, I recall.

Arang

for that fight

I actually had to die and respawn just because I ran out of ammo

the whole system of only having two weapons and potentially being without one you'd upgraded for hours was really ... not so great

Wyborn

Seriously, use the floaty power and the fire bombs. Either will get you through those fights. I prefer floaty.

Fencingsax

So, uh, part 2 is out tomorow. Right?

Wyborn

THat's the word on the street

I really wanna play it

But I'm so focused on Dark Souls right now

But I really want to see what happens with Elizabeth

chiasaur11

I'm not sure if it was a glitch or what, but for those fights...

She had unlimited zombies. I killed 'em and killed 'em, but she kept spawning more even if I burned 'em. Just the worst part of the game by far.

Caulk Bite 6

chiasaur11 wrote: »

I'm not sure if it was a glitch or what, but for those fights...

She had unlimited zombies. I killed 'em and killed 'em, but she kept spawning more even if I burned 'em. Just the worst part of the game by far.

What I've found is best

is to clear what you can, get a few good hits into her before she moves, scavenge ammo/health, repeat.

Sorce

Approximate release times for #EpisodeTwo tom'w:
Xbox 360: 5AM EDT
PC: 1-3PM EDT
PSN NA: 3-7 PM EDT
PSN Europe/Asia: Wednesday

Wyborn

It's downloading now

I've put it on pause because that cripples my browsing speed

Grey Ghost

Oh man oh man I was going to be social tonight but now I don't know

Grey Ghost

Oh wow
this is a big download

Deadfall

It is good. Real good.

I have a tenuous at best grasp at what happened but I enjoyed all of it.

Grey Ghost

Just gonna stay here in this starting area and listen to La Vie En Rose for a couple hours

Grey Ghost

This combat is
really frustrating

Grey Ghost

How in the hell am I supposed to use these medical kits I've picked up?

Cello

So I finished it

Was there any difference between if you went lethal and non-lethal? I went totally non-lethal and I didn't notice anything that outright said YOU'RE A GOOD PERSON

Actual spoiler talk

The orbital lobotomy section actually made me physically, viscerally nauseous. As in, I got dizzy and sick to my stomach and had to just... pause and take a short break after looking the other way for a while didn't work out. When they moved to actually go after Sally instead I was like NOPENOPENOPE PAUSE HERE'S HOPING I DON'T HAVE NIGHTMARES

It's weird; the only other time any kind of media has made me sick was getting motion sick in STALKER. So kudos to Irrational for that, I suppose! Not even gory horror movies have managed to do that to me before!

I liked that the plot brought you through Columbia and Rapture, both. Elizabeth was also a pretty strong character in general too, and it was nice to get some answers. Not sure I'm crazy for the ending. But I did like the part where she went on the plane and tied things together. I'm just not sure about Atlas' motivations extending to taking Elizabeth out? I dunno, it's probably too soon to get critical; maybe I'm just reeling from seeing Elizabeth get taken out like that.

I also liked that they gave more of a moral reason for the leader of the Vox to go out the way she did. And it was great to see the Luteces again!

It also seemed significantly longer to me than the other DLC, so yay! Gonna be so sleepy for work tomorrow oh man.