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[Dota 2] The International 2013 main event, Aug 7th - 11th

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  • RedthirstRedthirst Registered User regular
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    Redthirst wrote: »
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    PAR has never really covered eSports with any fervor, I wouldn't read too much in to it. In fact, PA in general hasn't exactly been an eSports Mecca over the years. It's only been recently that it's started to get a serious following around here. Early in the evolution of PAX the PA folks didn't even want eSports at the convention, as they felt it bred a certain amount of community hostility by it's very nature. Obviously they've softened on that, as the last two years have had big eSports events...but yeah.
    Maybe, but there were quite a lot of articles about competetive LoL, Starcraft and various Fighting games, so its not like PAR doesn't cover esports at all.

    Define "a lot"? I think you're biasing your opinion with some implied cognitive bias: "They are covering this other eSport, but not mine!"...when in reality, I don't think their eSports coverage as a whole has been anything but spotty. Most of the FGC articles I've seen deal almost specifically with the The Incident from last year. They aren't covering Wednesday Night Fights or anything.

    LoL gets some level of coverage everywhere because frankly it's the 1000lb gorilla in the room right now.
    I guess you're right. If you look at that closely, Dota 2 isn't "mainstream" because we have LoL out there. Its always frustrating when you're favourite games don't get the attention they deserve to. I feel the same way about Payday 2.

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  • JutranjoJutranjo Registered User regular
    As if the PAR writers have any clue about these things beyond the PR drama that floods twitter every few months. Just go to TeamLiquid, the articles are better.

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  • Dark_SideDark_Side Registered User regular
    Yilias wrote: »
    I actually thought A was going to lose that game (v TF) because they had much weaker lategame and they lost the early game.

    They should have. Tong Fu had multiple chances to finish it but they instead pulled a classic pub maneuver and went back to farming instead of pushing to end.

    And I don't know Tetra, they drafted themselves into a wicked corner that game.

  • übergeekübergeek Sector 2814Registered User regular
    edited August 2013
    EDIT Got it.

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  • mtsmts Dr. Robot King Registered User regular
    übergeek wrote: »
    I am one card away from 5 teams, anyone have EGM of Alliance?

    Have you tried dota2wh.com?

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  • YiliasYilias Registered User regular
    edited August 2013
    I have another EGM, but I am going to bed.

    E: Actually I'm not because I make terrible decisions, poke me if you see this.

    Yilias on
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  • DroolDrool Science! AustinRegistered User regular
    So what games from today are must see?

  • Dac VinDac Vin S-s-screw you! I only listen to DOUBLE MUSIC! Registered User regular
    LGD vs Na'Vi, Game 2. (Dendi Pudge)

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    gotta love games like that - just had an absurdly one-sided 27min game that ended up 37-7 in our favour, with me at 18-1 on an OD.

    last five kills were a rampage - took down three heroes in one shot from full hp with my ultimate and finished the other two off with an orb each.

  • milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    edited August 2013
    Shamelessly stealing somebody else's response to the LGD Na'vi game, but...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7Q7KEBlX9k

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    anyone got a VOD link for that game?

  • milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
  • YiliasYilias Registered User regular
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  • DroolDrool Science! AustinRegistered User regular
    Yeah I was definitely going to watch the Na'vi games and maybe Alliance since they've been rolling over everyone.

  • BastableBastable Registered User regular
    All the ursa/fuzzy wuzzy games should be watched :D

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  • YiliasYilias Registered User regular
    This was cool: http://www.gosugamers.net/dota2/features/3376-heroes-of-the-international-3-groupstage

    Every hero except for Meepo has been picked at least once, and Meepo got banned once by MUFC against Fnatic.

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  • sparklesparkle Registered User regular
    edited August 2013
    Yilias wrote: »
    This was cool: http://www.gosugamers.net/dota2/features/3376-heroes-of-the-international-3-groupstage

    Every hero except for Meepo has been picked at least once, and Meepo got banned once by MUFC against Fnatic.

    you are interpreting that wrong. that is a list of heroes that has been picked or banned. Meepo has 1 ban, but no picks. death prophet and lycan haven't been picked or banned for example, and they aren't on the list.

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  • P10P10 An Idiot With Low IQ Registered User regular
    sparkle wrote: »
    Yilias wrote: »
    This was cool: http://www.gosugamers.net/dota2/features/3376-heroes-of-the-international-3-groupstage

    Every hero except for Meepo has been picked at least once, and Meepo got banned once by MUFC against Fnatic.

    you are interpreting that wrong. that is a list of heroes that has been picked or banned. Meepo has 1 ban, but no picks. death prophet and lycan haven't been picked or banned for example, and they aren't on the list.
    heroes that haven't been picked:
    Brewmaster, Bristleback ,Death Prophet, Drow Ranger, Invoker,Lycanthrope, Meepo*, Necrolyte, Night Stalker, Ogre Magi, Omniknight, Phantom Assassin, Riki, Skeleton King, Sven (picked in Qualifier Match), Sniper, Tusk, Witch Doctor. + the heroes that aren't in cm, obv.

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  • PeewiPeewi Registered User regular
    Guess the nerfs hit Invoker pretty hard. Used to see him played all the time.

    Someone played Morphling? Thought he was considered bad after being nerfed.

  • sparklesparkle Registered User regular
    Peewi wrote: »
    Guess the nerfs hit Invoker pretty hard. Used to see him played all the time.

    Someone played Morphling? Thought he was considered bad after being nerfed.

    hes not bad, just not godlike. Hes won 3 out of his 5 appearances.

    I'm still waiting to see some aura strats with lycan. the dude is still strong as fuck, just needs to be laned right.

  • YiliasYilias Registered User regular
    Enigma/NP/Lycan is the lolsiest push strat.

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  • Dark_SideDark_Side Registered User regular
    edited August 2013
    sparkle wrote: »
    Peewi wrote: »
    Guess the nerfs hit Invoker pretty hard. Used to see him played all the time.

    Someone played Morphling? Thought he was considered bad after being nerfed.

    hes not bad, just not godlike. Hes won 3 out of his 5 appearances.

    I'm still waiting to see some aura strats with lycan. the dude is still strong as fuck, just needs to be laned right.

    Right. Morph can still carry with the best of them and is still impossible to gank (can still pop strength morph when stunned).

    I've love to see someone start running him against weaver picks.

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  • Disco11Disco11 Registered User regular
    Dark_Side wrote: »
    sparkle wrote: »
    Peewi wrote: »
    Guess the nerfs hit Invoker pretty hard. Used to see him played all the time.

    Someone played Morphling? Thought he was considered bad after being nerfed.

    hes not bad, just not godlike. Hes won 3 out of his 5 appearances.

    I'm still waiting to see some aura strats with lycan. the dude is still strong as fuck, just needs to be laned right.

    Right. Morph can still carry with the best of them and is still impossible to gank (can still pop strength morph when stunned).

    I've love to see someone start running him against weaver picks.

    I really want to get better with Morph but just cannot for the life of me get the hang of him. I am also terrible with ethereal blade/ Ghost scepter. People seem to melt me down the second I pop it.

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  • pardzhpardzh Registered User regular
    Morphling had his cast time nerfs reverted. There were some other small nerfs that remain, but that was the big thing that put him in the dumpster before.

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  • 3cl1ps33cl1ps3 I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    Alliance is just on another level right now. Sent Furion in to the Rosh pit to get Orange to commit, and then jumped on them with Ursa, Veno and Wisp. The entire draft was based around getting Orange to commit to checking for level 1 Rosh then punishing it.

    Alliance has used this exact strat before. Same draft and everything.

  • Wicked Uncle ErnieWicked Uncle Ernie Registered User regular
    edited August 2013
    Disco11 wrote: »
    Dark_Side wrote: »
    sparkle wrote: »
    Peewi wrote: »
    Guess the nerfs hit Invoker pretty hard. Used to see him played all the time.

    Someone played Morphling? Thought he was considered bad after being nerfed.

    hes not bad, just not godlike. Hes won 3 out of his 5 appearances.

    I'm still waiting to see some aura strats with lycan. the dude is still strong as fuck, just needs to be laned right.

    Right. Morph can still carry with the best of them and is still impossible to gank (can still pop strength morph when stunned).

    I've love to see someone start running him against weaver picks.

    I really want to get better with Morph but just cannot for the life of me get the hang of him. I am also terrible with ethereal blade/ Ghost scepter. People seem to melt me down the second I pop it.

    I did the shotgun thing with him the other day and it felt great, I never liked him before, but his animation is amazing, reliable escape, str morph for straight running. And with Just boots/ Ghost Scepter (I think I went Aquila, Treads Ghost ->Eth Really nice stat progression, and not very expensive core.) he is pretty strong, if you get it in good time. Rest is map awareness, so you can morph agi for your eth without getting smashed for it.

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  • TehSpectreTehSpectre Registered User regular
    If I connect my twitch account with my steam account, does watching the international games (multiple tabs with multiple games playing) count towards my courier?

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  • FoomyFoomy Registered User regular
    TehSpectre wrote: »
    If I connect my twitch account with my steam account, does watching the international games (multiple tabs with multiple games playing) count towards my courier?

    yes, you are also eligible to win items just like watching from the client.

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  • The_TuninatorThe_Tuninator Registered User regular
    I leave the game for a few months and Visage becomes a a top tier competitive pick? What a crazy world we're living in. TI3's picks are shaping up to have some more variety than TI2's, thankfully.

  • TehSpectreTehSpectre Registered User regular
    Doesn't seem to be working when replaying an old match.

    Dang.

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  • Dark_SideDark_Side Registered User regular
    I leave the game for a few months and Visage becomes a a top tier competitive pick? What a crazy world we're living in. TI3's picks are shaping up to have some more variety than TI2's, thankfully.

    The Visage thing has been brewing for awhile. It's a very effective first blood hero in a tri lane. The picks have been really varied and we've seen plenty of different strats to go along with them, so yeah, it's nice.

    Still can't believe no brewmaster picks. Though he just doesn't seem to fit into the meta anymore.

  • sparklesparkle Registered User regular
    I leave the game for a few months and Visage becomes a a top tier competitive pick? What a crazy world we're living in. TI3's picks are shaping up to have some more variety than TI2's, thankfully.

    Some people knew how strong he was for awhile now. he got a major buff in 6.75, but it takes time for comp players to 1.) realize his potential, 2.) get good with the hero, 3.) fit him into strats, and 4.) have the confidence to play him when money is on the line.

    The thing that surprises me is not the rise of Visage(it was overdue if anything) but the total disappearance of some heroes like Sven and Undying.

  • milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    Undying's stats are ridiculously terrible and I think people have learned to counter tombstone a lot better than before. If people blow him up, he also can't counterinitiate, which is really what he's best at; punishing long/poorly thought out engagements.

    Sven, I dunno. He's at least somewhat kitable, and as a 5 he doesn't exactly bring great things, but even as a strength carry he brings his own farming tool and some pretty good defense with war cry. Armlet Sven should be a thing more people do as well for the huge ult armlet power.

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  • YiliasYilias Registered User regular
    Gyrocopter and Alchemist, two super popular picks atm, are also both great against Undying. Flak will wipe all the zombies off the field and Alch's acid will kill every zombie in it while also proccing for bonus gold.

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  • mtsmts Dr. Robot King Registered User regular
    TehSpectre wrote: »
    Doesn't seem to be working when replaying an old match.

    Dang.
    yea courier counts only work for live streams

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  • Dark_SideDark_Side Registered User regular
    mts wrote: »
    TehSpectre wrote: »
    Doesn't seem to be working when replaying an old match.

    Dang.
    yea courier counts only work for live streams

    Can always download them in client and watch there. Comes complete with commentary and counts for views. The highlights do to, or at least they did during the qualifiers.

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  • DroolDrool Science! AustinRegistered User regular
    I miss Leshrac picks. He is still probably my favorite hero, the cast animation nerf was annoying, but he can still wreck house.

  • mtsmts Dr. Robot King Registered User regular
    lesh still gets picked a lot. especially in combo with shadow demon since you can chain stuns while roaming and pretty much guarentee a kill

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  • pardzhpardzh Registered User regular
    "A lot" is stretching it. He's very situational nowadays.

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