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Job offered in NYC - I hope you can help me with some information

12gauge12gauge Registered User regular
So, my work offered me to move to NYC for one year, with an offer of slightly above 100K per year. The workplace would be around the corner of 5th Avenue and 42nd street.

Is there a webpage where I can easily calculate how much taxes I would need to pay?
I would likely need to keep my current apartment, which costs me around 950 bucks a month, so I assume that I would not be able to afford a prime location in Manhattan to live. Luckily though, I am debt free and do not need much space - 250ft would be very much enough. What would be good location? Commuting by public transport for up to 30 minutes one way is fine, I rather not have a car.

What would be good place to look for an apartment (in terms of location of the apartment and actual place to find rentable apartments) and what kind of costs would I need to expect (deposit and I don't really have an american credit history - I do use credit cards and do fine there - again no debt)? Is NYC livable on my budget with these restrictions?

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  • schussschuss Registered User regular
    http://money.cnn.com/calculator/pf/cost-of-living/
    is one thing
    http://webinfocentral.com/tax/
    Another

    Where do you live now? What do you enjoy?

  • AkilaeAkilae Registered User regular
    edited May 2013
    12gauge wrote: »
    I would likely need to keep my current apartment, which costs me around 950 bucks a month, so I assume that I would not be able to afford a prime location in Manhattan to live. Luckily though, I am debt free and do not need much space - 250ft would be very much enough.

    pfff..hehehehahahahaha...
    12gauge wrote: »
    What would be good location? Commuting by public transport for up to 30 minutes one way is fine

    hahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....
    12gauge wrote: »
    What would be good place to look for an apartment (in terms of location of the apartment and actual place to find rentable apartments) and what kind of costs would I need to expect (deposit and I don't really have an american credit history - I do use credit cards and do fine there - again no debt)? Is NYC livable on my budget with these restrictions?

    *gasp for breath* HAHAHAHAHAHA....

    Sorry. Ahem.

    NYC can be pretty rough when it comes to rent. Don't think in terms of a 30 minute commute, you won't find anything reasonable, or safe, pick one, that close to 42nd and 5th. Everybody comes to NYC and thinks "I don't want to live outside of Manhattan", then gets slaughtered with $2000+ rent for a 250 sq ft. studio. Okay, I'm exaggerating. Maybe.

    Expand your horizon to Queens, Brooklyn, and New Jersey, and you'll find that you will have a much easier time finding affordable housing. Commute is not THAT bad, and depending on where you live in Queens and Jersey, it will actually be a faster commute than living in certain places of Manhattan. I don't know about a 1-year lease, as most places I know would like long term tenants. That doesn't mean there are no short-term leases out there, but you'll have to hunt around a bit. If you will be in NYC before you start working, craigslist will be invaluable. You might be able to find sublets.

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  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    edited May 2013
    30 minutes away from 42nd and 5th (which is one of the nicest areas in the world) with apartments at $950 puts you in Murderville. You are either going to need to make time for a longer commute, or increase your rent budget. If you're willing to go up to ~$1500, you can get something decent in the 80s near York Avenue.

    Another option would be to rent in Westchester, and commute by train to the city, which is a fairly common and easy thing to do. Train passes are ~$200+ a month though, so factor that in.

    streeteasy.com is a decent listing site.

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  • ChopperDaveChopperDave Registered User regular
    What's your actual budget here?

    Most financial management people I've talked to would say that putting about 30% of your monthly paycheck toward rent is pretty reasonable. If you have no debt you can even get up to 35 or 40%, as unlike many people you have no loans to worry about paying down.

    At an annual salary of 100k, 30% puts you at about $2500 for rent. Subtract what you need to pay down rent on your current apartment ($950) and you're looking at about $1550 being what you can "afford" to pay.

    Have you considered subletting your current apartment? If you can get someone to pay that rent for you, it'll free up cash that you can use to pay for a nicer or more convenient place in NYC.

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  • hsuhsu Registered User regular
    edited May 2013
    Dump your current place. Break the lease, sublet, whatever you have to do. You cannot afford to rent two places, not with NYC rental rates.

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  • AkilaeAkilae Registered User regular
    Just a thought, if you're a short timer here on company business, are there any co-workers in the city you can hit up? That would probably be a more realistic, and affordable, way to find a decent place to live.

  • 12gauge12gauge Registered User regular
    Well, those are some encouraging answers :P Thanks all of you.

    I did not think yet on how much budget I want to put aside for rent - that was one of the things I hoped to better understand from this thread. The 950 is my current rent that I would likely need to keep out of other considerations - I knew that NYC would be likely more - I was hoping for the 1500 - 2000 dollar range.

    The places you guys mentioned - Westchester, Brooklyn, New Jersey, maybe Long Island (?) - what would the commute time be approximately?

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  • AkilaeAkilae Registered User regular
    Not familiar with Westchester. But isn't that further north than White Plains? That means commute by Metro North. Probably a better idea to look in Jersey, IMHO.

    Brooklyn: Depends on where. Brooklyn is HUGE. If you're lucky enough to score something decent in DUMBO/Brooklyn Heights/Downtown Brooklyn, then 45 minutes to where you'll be working, including walking time. If you want the most straightforward commute, then when house hunting stick to where the F-train stops in Brooklyn, since the F has a stop at 42nd and 6th and runs at a pretty good pace. The 4/5 trains run express and also good, and you can take the 4/5 to Grand Central at 42nd and Park, 35 minutes tops. This will be your best chance of living "near" Manhattan with a $2000 budget.

    Jersey also depends. If you live somewhere in, say, Hoboken/Newport, then I believe NJ Transit or the ferry system will get you to mid-town or the Financial District in pretty good time, and from there you hop onto a bus or subway (most likely 2/3) to get to 42nd. I'm not familiar with NJ though, so can't comment further than that. However, this might be your best chance at finding something for a good price. DO NOT LIVE IN NEWARK, no matter how cheap it is, if you want to return to your country alive after your 1-year stint.

    Long Island is highly dependent. Most areas would require you to drive, or bus then LIRR/subway. Look for neighborhoods around Long Island Rail Road stops, as this will be the most straightforward for you.

    Commute from Queens will be slightly better than Long Island. Long Island City, which despite its name is in Queens, is right across the river from Manhattan, although the G train commute will probably make you want to kill yourself. Thankfully, there are two LIRR stops in LIC. Astoria in Queens might look attractive, however there's no easy public transportation in Astoria. Elmhurst/Jackson Heights are good living for good prices, but you start looking at commutes up to an hour. Any further east than that and it makes more sense to go to Brooklyn or even Jersey from a commuting time perspective.

    If you're willing to have a roommate, then of course prices get slightly less unreasonable.

    Of course, all of this does not mean you can't find a good place in Manhattan for $1400. I had a friend who lived in Nolita for that price (shared space though) and loved it for the price. Two burglaries later that changed. It all depends on what you are willing to live with.

  • DeebaserDeebaser on my way to work in a suit and a tie Ahhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered User regular
    Don't do westchester or LI.
    You will need a car and your commute will suck (wspecially from LI, since with upstate you land in Grand Central) and will be much more expensive with car + train

  • DeebaserDeebaser on my way to work in a suit and a tie Ahhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered User regular
    Gonna disagree with Akilae re: no easy public transportation in Astoria.

    The N/Q are excellent and the neighborhood is p boss, safe, cheap, and probably hasn't been used as a backdrop on HBO's Girls.

    Everything else is spot on. You can def find a studio in a decent nabe for sub $1800

  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    Akilae wrote: »
    Not familiar with Westchester. But isn't that further north than White Plains? That means commute by Metro North. Probably a better idea to look in Jersey, IMHO.

    Westchester is the county north of the Bronx. It includes White Plains, but also all places south of there. It starts with Yonkers/Mount Vernon/Pelham/New Rochelle on the border of the Bronx, but there are nice places if you go a little north (but need not go as north as White Plains). Commute wise you're looking at 35-50 minutes, depending on how far north you go.
    Deebaser wrote: »
    Don't do westchester or LI.
    You will need a car and your commute will suck (wspecially from LI, since with upstate you land in Grand Central) and will be much more expensive with car + train

    There are places within walking distance of the train stations in the various villages. It is a little tough getting around Westchester without a car though, I will give you that.

    I would say look into the Yorkville neighborhood (or thereabouts) in Manhattan.

  • 12gauge12gauge Registered User regular
    Thanks for all the information - I will need to take that all in and see if I if I can find some example for housing.

    I will also need to dig deeper into the offer anyway - there are some points that I do not like at the moment which might put me at a disadvantage to my current position.

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  • HeraldSHeraldS Registered User regular
    If you can do $1500-2k you will be able to find a place in Manhattan within a reasonable distance of your job. I had a decent one bedroom at 49th & 9th for $1800ish for example. If you're willing to widen your search a bit but still focus around Midtown you should be fine. Craigslist or similar sites are only worth using if you're in the city and willing to see the place that day or the next, they go too fast otherwise. Brokers, while expensive, are reliable and will find you a place. You may be able to talk your job in to eating some/all of the broker's fee as a relocation cost, look in to that as well. Good luck. New York is a crazy place but definitely somewhere worth living for a little while. Nothing else quite like it.

  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    Jersey guy here. Jersey city and Hoboken are both decent choices. Hoboken is kinda gotten pricey and is overrun by hordes of bros on weekends . Jc has some nice areas and some shitty ones(dont go out past grove st path). The path trains are honestly better than The ny subways most of tine and will dump you at 33rd st. A commute to midtown is around an hour.

  • Typhoid MannyTyphoid Manny Registered User regular
    Akilae wrote: »
    DO NOT LIVE IN NEWARK, no matter how cheap it is, if you want to return to your country alive after your 1-year stint.

    most of what you've said is solid, but this really isn't true anymore. there's still large swathes of newark you don't want to go in the dark, but even those spots are way way better than they were even five years ago. newark is getting gentrified hard, and it's absolutely an option if you're working in the city.

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  • DivideByZeroDivideByZero Social Justice Blackguard Registered User regular
    edited May 2013
    Deebaser wrote: »
    Don't do westchester or LI.
    You will need a car and your commute will suck (wspecially from LI, since with upstate you land in Grand Central) and will be much more expensive with car + train

    There are places within walking distance of the train stations in the various villages. It is a little tough getting around Westchester without a car though, I will give you that.

    This is true and works only if you don't plan to leave your house for anything other than your job. The public transportation system on long island is awesome at two things:

    1. Getting to NYC in the morning
    2. Getting out of NYC in the evening

    Beyond that it's pretty awful. I don't know a single person who commutes from Nassau to NYC and doesn't own a car. I would lose my shit if I didn't have one.

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  • illigillig Registered User regular
    you're only moving to NYC for a year?

    in manhattan, apartment rentals are controlled by the broker mafia.... and the average 1br apartment has recently gone up to (drumroll please?) $3800/month... so all logic goes out the window in this fucked up little island.

    so keep in mind that to get an apartment, you'll most likely need to pay 1st month's rent, a security deposit, AND a 15% (of a year's rent) brokers fee... so if you're looking at a $2K apartment, you'll need to pay ~$7600 just for the privilege of moving in

    it's very possible to get a no-fee apartment, but it takes a lot of looking/time (or friends that know of one, etc.)... since you're coming from out of town, i assume you have neither the weeks/months to look for one, or the contacts to find one

    also, you're only moving here for a year - you don't need an entire apartment. A single room in a share is more than doable short-term. Plus, you won't need to furnish it as much (which, like everything else, is expensive in NYC).

  • Shazkar ShadowstormShazkar Shadowstorm Registered User regular
    upper east side is a good bet

    my friend has a 1BR apartment around ... 86? ish for $1800 and it's pretty nice (though almost all my other friends live with someone else, he's the only person I know who lives without roommates - and for short term it's not hard to get a room in an apt)

    UES is the cheapest area left in a reasonable area of manhattan (sub 125st) and the public transport from there is good - that'd be a fast commute to 42nd and 5th

    takes me like 35-40 mins to get from my apt in prospect heights park slope in brooklyn to 28th and 5th if that helps for reference

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  • SixSix Caches Tweets in the mainframe cyberhex Registered User regular
    I agree with Shaz. You should be able to find something reasonable on the UES. In Brooklyn, you should be able to find something within easy commuting distance if you're in DUMBO, Brooklyn Heights, Cobble Hill, Carroll Gardens, Park Slope, Fort Greene, Clinton Hill or Prospect Heights. There are other neighborhoods where you'll find cheaper rent, but you'll want to be more educated about the neighborhood.

    It takes me about 30 mins to get to 32nd and Broadway from my spot at the corner of Fort Greene, Prospect Heights and Park Slope.

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  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    Another Jersey guy here. You can live in Jersey City and take the PATH to 33rd & 6th, and the walk at the end would take maybe 15 minutes? That puts your commute at probably 35 minutes, depending on how close to the PATH you live.

    I see 5 studio apartments under $1500 very close to the Grove St. PATH station in Jersey City. Taxes and CoL are lower in NJ, as well, so there's that. If you do want to live in Manhattan, take a look through a site like HotPads.com, which not only lets you search based on some basic criteria (using a map), it also shows the transit lines in NYC so you can make sure you don't end up in a transportation ghetto.

    You can find reasonably priced apartments in Manhattan. My ex-wife used a realtor to find a 450 sqft apartment on 45th and 3rd for $1700 about 18 months ago, and from the pictures she posted on Facebook it looks like a really nice place. She actually works in Tarrytown and takes the train in a reverse commute, so being right by Grand Central was key to her.

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  • tapeslingertapeslinger Space Unicorn Slush Ranger Social Justice Rebel ScumRegistered User regular
    I moved from a hovel on 137th street in Manhattan to a 1br apartment in Jersey city because the commute was actually BETTER than it was when I lived in the same borough as I work. Our rent is probably not a good example because we are crazy lowball but near us would be around 14-1800 normally.

    Craigslist for apartment sublet is also a possibility if you don't already have furniture/a lot of stuff that you'll need to have in your NYC place. For YEARS I found roommates on CL and it saved me from having to buy furniture, since a lot of places were furnished sublets! Since you're looking at a year or less, this is worth the hassle of living with someone, most of the time, unless they turn out to be whoa crazy.

  • dlinfinitidlinfiniti Registered User regular
    Jersey guy here. Jersey city and Hoboken are both decent choices. Hoboken is kinda gotten pricey and is overrun by hordes of bros on weekends . Jc has some nice areas and some shitty ones(dont go out past grove st path). The path trains are honestly better than The ny subways most of tine and will dump you at 33rd st. A commute to midtown is around an hour.

    hey man jsq isn't so bad

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  • tapeslingertapeslinger Space Unicorn Slush Ranger Social Justice Rebel ScumRegistered User regular
    The main problem with Journal Square is that people list apartments that are "near" it, and they could actually be over a mile away, which is sub-optimal for a public-transit-only commute. Close to Journal Square isn't terrible, but the further out you go past the station the more you need to have a car to have access to any kind of amenities.

  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    Yeah, realtors love to say "walking distance to JSQ" for anything that's under 30 minutes. JSQ is my PATH train currently, but I'm a 20 min walk away. It's do-able, but it's also one of the main reasons I'm moving. My neighborhood is poor, the shops are all nail salons and braiding shops, and everyone is super nice BUT it's obvious that me and my girlfriend combined make way more than the average household. I think the 2010 census says that my immediate neighborhood has an average household income of 28k.

    So yeah, if you don't have a car in the JSQ area, you're relegated to shopping along the PATH lines or at shops that cater to low-income families. Most people enjoy living in Manhattan not because of the commute, but because what you live near by being in Manhattan. If you're without a car, being able to walk to get food, clothes, fun stuff, and so on, is pretty great. That also means that you should review potential neighborhoods that DON'T have those kind of amenities.

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  • schussschuss Registered User regular
    This link seems appropriate for this thread.

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  • LavaKnightLavaKnight Registered User regular
    Adding in a datapoint for Queens. I live in Jackson Heights off of two express trains, and it usually takes about a half-hour to get to midtown. Astoria might take an extra ten minutes or so from a transfer, but anything 30-40 minutes is a pretty reasonable commute. If you live anywhere near an express train your commute shouldn't be too bad.

    My girlfriend and I pay $1500/month for our one bedroom out here, and were able to find a place that's reasonably close to the subway, and didn't have a broker's fee.

    On your salary, though, it sounds like you wont have any trouble affording a place in Manhattan. I've been looking for work since I moved here last September, which is definitely a smaller salary than what you're looking at!

  • 12gauge12gauge Registered User regular
    Thanks for all your response, you are really helping me out here :)
    schuss wrote: »
    This link seems appropriate for this thread.

    http://theworstroom.tumblr.com/

    Holy shit.

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  • tapeslingertapeslinger Space Unicorn Slush Ranger Social Justice Rebel ScumRegistered User regular
    Yeah-- it is pretty incredible what some people try to pass off as a roommate situation. Fortunately, usually the photos speak for themselves.

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  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    Vanguard wrote: »
    30 mins from 42nd and 5th is not even close to Murderville.

    I live in Clinton Hill, which is safe enough. I commute an hour (mostly because I build a 15 minute walk into my commute).

    Work in Midtown around 33rd on the east side.

    And at $950 a month.

  • 12gauge12gauge Registered User regular
    So, maybe an update on my situation - I will be moving this month and I am now going into full house hunting mode. For rent, I can go up to $2000, the broker fee will be taken up by my employer.
    I have been looking closer at Queens - would one of the high rises near hunter's point be worth the rent they ask for? Also, how is the Upper East Side?

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  • Shazkar ShadowstormShazkar Shadowstorm Registered User regular
    UES is good, my friend has a nice 1BR on the UES at like 86th and 2ndish for 1800
    only downside is the 4/5 trains are super crowded

    poo
  • 12gauge12gauge Registered User regular
    I am used to supercrowded trains - I think I will extend my search that way.

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  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    12gauge wrote: »
    So, maybe an update on my situation - I will be moving this month and I am now going into full house hunting mode. For rent, I can go up to $2000, the broker fee will be taken up by my employer.
    I have been looking closer at Queens - would one of the high rises near hunter's point be worth the rent they ask for? Also, how is the Upper East Side?

    I will second the UES as being a really nice area to live, I used to go to school there and I now work nearby. If you can find something within your budget, I'd go for it. The 4/5 may be crowded, but it is convenient to most places you might want to go in the city.

  • PacificstarPacificstar Registered User regular
    If you actually want to leave NYC with any money -after paying rent x2- I suggest subletting a room in an apt. I know a lot of people will make it sound scary, but I lived in NYC for 6 years and found numerous sublets on Craigslist without issue. Even if you still want to spend 1500-2000, I have friends that are investment bankers that are rarely home and get AMAZING places and then rent out the 2nd room.

  • AuralynxAuralynx Darkness is a perspective Watching the ego workRegistered User regular
    edited August 2013
    12gauge wrote: »
    Well, those are some encouraging answers :P Thanks all of you.

    I did not think yet on how much budget I want to put aside for rent - that was one of the things I hoped to better understand from this thread. The 950 is my current rent that I would likely need to keep out of other considerations - I knew that NYC would be likely more - I was hoping for the 1500 - 2000 dollar range.

    The places you guys mentioned - Westchester, Brooklyn, New Jersey, maybe Long Island (?) - what would the commute time be approximately?

    White Plains has not-awesome rents but if you're going to 42nd and 5th, that is literally 5 minutes from Grand Central, and the train takes ~40 minutes to get to GCT from White Plains when it's running express. Getting to Manhattan from Westchester is not that hard if you can figure out how Metro-North works, and you don't actually need a car given where you're headed in Manhattan.

    Yonkers and Mount Vernon, which are both nearer to Manhattan, are undergoing something of a re-development boom at the moment, as well, and there's available space in New Rochelle, too, which is about as close. The river towns and further north than, like, Valhalla are not a good idea, though, if you're worried about commute times.

    The folks suggesting you sublet or hustle in Manhattan / not far from Manhattan but still in NYC are on-target as well. If you don't mind a foot / subway commute it should be fairly possible to live anywhere south of Central Park and north of and get to where you want to go fairly quickly assuming you can find something affordable to live in; try to land somewhere near a line with relatively few transfers on the way to Grand Central, like the 6.

    Looking again I see I'm super-late to the party on this thread, but you still won't get crushed in Lower Westchester if you're having trouble with your preferred options. Good luck!

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  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    Jersey City your primarily method of transit is the PATH train. Grove or Newport to 33rd st and 6th ave is about a 25 minute trip. they run 24/7 but service gets much spotier on weekends or after 11 pm. along the line there's connections to most of the subway lines except the 4/5

  • CelestialBadgerCelestialBadger Registered User regular
    UES is a nice area. Expect to live in a shoebox, if you want to live alone, but the city is so awesome you'll only sleep there anyway. There is only one subway line, the 6, so try to live near it, and also expect Tokyo trains levels of crowding (hope you are not claustrophobic!)

    Roommates are not just for students and the unemployed as they are often elsewhere. Everyone who is under 30 has them. They enable you to afford a place in a nicer area, close to nice stuff, and spend less time on the subway than if you wanted to live alone.

    Since you will be working in midtown, consider a midtown apartment share. It's a boring area to live, so they are not quite so expensive as many places in Manhattan. You might be able to walk to work.

  • CelestialBadgerCelestialBadger Registered User regular
    edited August 2013
    Ooops double post

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  • tapeslingertapeslinger Space Unicorn Slush Ranger Social Justice Rebel ScumRegistered User regular
    Where are you working (neighborhood/street/general, not specific)? I would suggest allowing your commute to influence your neighborhood of choice a little. UES is great if the 4/5/6 is convenient. If you have to cram into a tiny apartment and a tiny train and take like 4 transfers it starts to get sub-optimal pretty quickly.

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