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  • kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    I hope you weren't trying to be snarky to me there for mentioning that. I was just kidding around, which i thought was obvious...

    I can't tell how serious you are though, yay for text-based mediums!

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    Not snarky, kambing is a jerkbutt :)

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  • 3cl1ps33cl1ps3 I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    edited June 2013
    Are there no Xel'Naga watchtowers on these maps or can I just not see them?

    If there aren't, then fuck yeah.

    I think Kambing just mixed up his metaphors between a rock and a bird in the hand oh dammit now I'm doing it too.

    3cl1ps3 on
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  • fatalspoonsfatalspoons Registered User regular
    @lorahalo, your avatar makes my heart hurt. You should change it. :P

  • CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    Is there a way to get SC2 to install to the drive you want it to? I'm not one to argue with a good thing but the disk install of HotS went straight to the SSD unlike Steam, which always asks first.

    But that's low on my priorities, my new PC isn't booting Windows. And was getting so used to Windows booting in twenty seconds.

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  • LorahaloLorahalo Registered User regular
    @lorahalo, your avatar makes my heart hurt. You should change it. :P

    Ahaha, I haven't changed this thing in years. It was actually my avatar before the switch over to vanilla, it's why it's such a low resolution.

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  • autono-wally, erotibot300autono-wally, erotibot300 love machine Registered User regular
    Cantido wrote: »
    Is there a way to get SC2 to install to the drive you want it to? I'm not one to argue with a good thing but the disk install of HotS went straight to the SSD unlike Steam, which always asks first.

    But that's low on my priorities, my new PC isn't booting Windows. And was getting so used to Windows booting in twenty seconds.

    just move the files where you need them, blizzard games don't care where you install them

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  • InvictusInvictus Registered User regular
    Kambing is kicking ass in the TL map tournament; he just made it to the ro32, the first Bo3 round. He's probably going to play Massan in that round.

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  • InvictusInvictus Registered User regular
    edited June 2013
    Kambing lost the first map against Massan. Bracket here.

    EDIT: also, i was wrong, the ro64 was the first Bo3 round; Kambing beat an American terran named Xerxes 2-0 in that round.

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  • KambingKambing Registered User regular
    edited June 2013
    Yeah went out 0-2.

    http://ggtracker.com/matches/3440770
    http://ggtracker.com/matches/3440772

    In both games I went muta and he went roach/hydra/infestor. In the first game, we traded 3rds, and he hit a timing before my quick 4th could kick in. In the second game, I was more successful with the mutas and held off his timing while losing my 3rd (but lost no drones, which put us at equal economic footing). However, instead of waiting for 2/2 to kick in, I took an unfavorable engagement in the middle of the map when he had decided to mass roaches, and the game got out of control from there.

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  • shwaipshwaip Registered User regular
    Kambing wrote: »
    Yeah went out 0-2.

    http://ggtracker.com/matches/3440770
    http://ggtracker.com/matches/3440772

    In both games I went muta and he went roach/hydra/infestor. In the first game, we traded 3rds, and he hit a timing before my quick 4th could kick in. In the second game, I was more successful with the mutas and held off his timing while losing my 3rd (but lost no drones, which put us at equal economic footing). However, instead of waiting for 2/2 to kick in, I took an unfavorable engagement in the middle of the map when he had decided to mass roaches, and the game got out of control from there.

    This isn't a critique of your build, but more a general zvz matchup question. Is muta still viable? I can't tell how much the spore change actually affected the MU.

  • KambingKambing Registered User regular
    shwaip wrote: »
    Kambing wrote: »
    Yeah went out 0-2.

    http://ggtracker.com/matches/3440770
    http://ggtracker.com/matches/3440772

    In both games I went muta and he went roach/hydra/infestor. In the first game, we traded 3rds, and he hit a timing before my quick 4th could kick in. In the second game, I was more successful with the mutas and held off his timing while losing my 3rd (but lost no drones, which put us at equal economic footing). However, instead of waiting for 2/2 to kick in, I took an unfavorable engagement in the middle of the map when he had decided to mass roaches, and the game got out of control from there.

    This isn't a critique of your build, but more a general zvz matchup question. Is muta still viable? I can't tell how much the spore change actually affected the MU.

    TBH not sure as I haven't been playing much zvz lately. I think what you can't do anymore is simply win against a non-muta player because 1-2 spores in each base holds off the mutas. But I think the essence of a muta opening is still there: you get map control long enough to establish a quick fourth but you need to use that economy to catch up in tech before the counter-push comes. Whether you can get that all in time is a different matter, and my execution isn't good enough to be able to bridge that gap against higher-level folk.

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  • VariableVariable Mouth Congress Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    edited June 2013
    meta was on last night, watching the vod

    sotg in an hour and a half

    WCS finals start in about 5 hours

    wow!

    edit - AHMAGAH INCONTROL WAS ON META

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  • kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    Kambing wrote: »
    TBH not sure as I haven't been playing much zvz lately.

    Lucky. That's all I play :/

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  • KambingKambing Registered User regular
    kime wrote: »
    Kambing wrote: »
    TBH not sure as I haven't been playing much zvz lately.

    Lucky. That's all I play :/

    Well I'm not laddering, and I only have been playing AI games and people in PA chat. And mostly as Terran. >_<

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  • kedinikkedinik Captain of Industry Registered User regular
    edited June 2013
    I absolutely promise that the spore change did nothing to mitigate the how and the why of mass muta being the dominant ZvZ playstyle in HotS.

    When you watch people correctly playing muta, they never sat over the old spores either. Sure, maybe you'd straight up win against unprepared people, but that wasn't normal; it was always about winning wherever spores were not to begin with.

    Though it does seem like a decent number of pros have reasoned that hmmm that new spore damage number is a really high number, better go roach hydra!

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  • shwaipshwaip Registered User regular
    kedinik wrote: »
    I absolutely promise that the spore change did nothing to mitigate the how and the why of mass muta being the dominant ZvZ playstyle in HotS.

    When you watch people correctly playing muta, they never sat over the old spores either. Sure, maybe you'd straight up win against unprepared people, but that wasn't normal; it was always about winning wherever spores were not to begin with.

    Though it does seem like a decent number of pros have reasoned that hmmm that new spore damage number is a really high number, better go roach hydra!

    The spore buff seems to make it possible to fortify the base with spores, making it impossible to send mutas to one base, lings to another, and just win if the other player reacts poorly.

  • KambingKambing Registered User regular
    kedinik wrote: »
    I absolutely promise that the spore change did nothing to mitigate the how and the why of mass muta being the dominant ZvZ playstyle in HotS.

    When you watch people correctly playing muta, they never sat over the old spores either. Sure, maybe you'd straight up win against unprepared people, but that wasn't normal; it was always about winning wherever spores were not to begin with.

    Though it does seem like a decent number of pros have reasoned that hmmm that new spore damage number is a really high number, better go roach hydra!

    It doesn't change muta/muta at all besides making it harder to break your opponent once you have the muta lead. In the muta/non-muta situation, the non-muta player had a hard time breaking out of the soft contain a muta player had on them without taking a large amount of damage. Now that this is not a problem anymore, the burden is on the muta player to catch up in tech while abusing their map control and subsequent economic advantage.

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  • kedinikkedinik Captain of Industry Registered User regular
    I would become the best ZvZ player in the world to prove you wrong, but I'm a race traitor.

    I can't race betray twice, or no one would trust me.

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  • KambingKambing Registered User regular
    edited June 2013
    kedinik wrote: »
    I would become the best ZvZ player in the world to prove you wrong, but I'm a race traitor.

    I can't race betray twice, or no one would trust me.

    Are you saying that you can mass mutas regardless of your opponent's tech choice? I'm not sure what particular point you disagreed with.

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  • kedinikkedinik Captain of Industry Registered User regular
    edited June 2013
    I'm mainly just making a joke.

    But to clarify, I think that if it goes to the midgame on otherwise even terms then muta play is still better than alternative styles regardless of the spore buff.

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  • KambingKambing Registered User regular
    kedinik wrote: »
    I'm mainly just making a joke.

    But to clarify, I think that if it goes to the midgame on otherwise even terms then muta play is still better than alternative styles regardless of the spore buff.

    Potentially, but the muta player absolutely has to transition out of mutas as they cannot do anything meaningful against a roach/hydra/infestor army. Whether that is possible now before the roach/hydra/infestor 2/2 timing hits depends on how much damage you can deal before spores go up and how effective you can be at holding back their army.

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    Last night in Belgium, about to go to sleep. Wentout for dinner wit the in laws, had a lot of Duvel.

    Coming t London again tomorrow, one night in london then flying home to be home late on sunday.

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  • fatalspoonsfatalspoons Registered User regular
    I actually really love this idea. Then again I hate all things air (except my own mutas).

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TF9bSqlLCCo

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    Old post from Feb by Sceptre duringn HotS beta

    Sceptre wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure Hellbats are going to be on the receiving end of a nerf pretty soon. They seem a bit too useful in all situations at the moment.

    You naive fool

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  • kedinikkedinik Captain of Industry Registered User regular
    edited June 2013
    Sceptre is truly balance-Cassandra.

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  • 815165815165 Registered User regular
    i'm still bitter about you all telling me that mutas wouldn't become the best zvz build all that time ago

    not that i predicted it, i just watched nestea do it and eat people's faces

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    Duvel is civilization youguys

  • CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    Okay I know my machine is booting off the SSD, but if the other hard drive is plugged in at all, everything chugs. If I leaved the SATA cable off, Windows boots fast. But the very moment I plug I plug in the other one, everything chugs.

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  • shwaipshwaip Registered User regular
    Cantido wrote: »
    Okay I know my machine is booting off the SSD, but if the other hard drive is plugged in at all, everything chugs. If I leaved the SATA cable off, Windows boots fast. But the very moment I plug I plug in the other one, everything chugs.

    windows may be set up to index the other drive. You should also run a chkdisk on the second drive, it may be failing / have bad sectors.

    You can also try plugging the other HDD into a different port/controller on the mobo.

  • KambingKambing Registered User regular
    815165 wrote: »
    i'm still bitter about you all telling me that mutas wouldn't become the best zvz build all that time ago

    not that i predicted it, i just watched nestea do it and eat people's faces

    Mutas weren't always good. It took the infestor projectile nerf (in HotS) to get them back into the limelight.

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  • 815165815165 Registered User regular
    bitter, i am

  • PantsBPantsB Fake Thomas Jefferson Registered User regular
    THESPOOKY wrote: »
    Looking at the 11/5 setup on Korhal Sky Island as a protoss player makes me want to fucking die

    But nothing is worse than Klontas Mire

    The most interesting part of Korhal Island is that there are places on the ground only accessible by dropped units/colossus/etc.

    I actually tested it before bed last night. You can place a single pylon in the middle and block off with 4 buildings, but there's destructible rocks. A concerted slow ling attack seems like it would still kill it really easily though unless you want to go forge, gate, core, gate, cannons all before Nexus. And since its cross only the Z will be able to make the ling or drone decision based on what you did

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  • CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    shwaip wrote: »
    Cantido wrote: »
    Okay I know my machine is booting off the SSD, but if the other hard drive is plugged in at all, everything chugs. If I leaved the SATA cable off, Windows boots fast. But the very moment I plug I plug in the other one, everything chugs.

    windows may be set up to index the other drive. You should also run a chkdisk on the second drive, it may be failing / have bad sectors.

    You can also try plugging the other HDD into a different port/controller on the mobo.

    Where do I find out if its being indexed?Also, how can I perform a checkdisk?

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  • ChaosHatChaosHat Hop, hop, hop, HA! Trick of the lightRegistered User regular
    I've lost eight games in a row now. Feels pretty demoralizing. Just feels like a week or so off undid all the strides I made earlier. Blerrrrg.

  • shwaipshwaip Registered User regular
    Cantido wrote: »
    shwaip wrote: »
    Cantido wrote: »
    Okay I know my machine is booting off the SSD, but if the other hard drive is plugged in at all, everything chugs. If I leaved the SATA cable off, Windows boots fast. But the very moment I plug I plug in the other one, everything chugs.

    windows may be set up to index the other drive. You should also run a chkdisk on the second drive, it may be failing / have bad sectors.

    You can also try plugging the other HDD into a different port/controller on the mobo.

    Where do I find out if its being indexed?Also, how can I perform a checkdisk?


    right click the drive in explorer -> properties -> tools -> error checking for the checkdisk

    for indexing: hit windows, type "index", select indexing options, and make sure none of the folders are on your HDD

  • kedinikkedinik Captain of Industry Registered User regular
    Solotosis?

    Unfortunate.

    He's good at solo casting but, well, it's solo casting.

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  • VariableVariable Mouth Congress Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    mvp vs ryung

    mech vs mech

    heavenly

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  • VariableVariable Mouth Congress Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    artosis alone in the background when you watch wolf and khaldor...

    too fucking funny

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