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Ok, so the circumstances surrounding this are kind of weird. I currently work for a company through a temp agency. That company only keeps a few employees on their payroll on a permanent basis. They make significant use of temps, and fire almost all of their employees save for a "core group" of individuals every year when their slow season starts. Then they hire the temps to takeover their jobs.
I recently graduated from college, I studied accounting. I know from friends of friends of people that were the previous accountants, including a former CFO, that they fire pretty much their entire accounting department every year and replace them with the current batch of temps. This has happened every year for the last four years, and I believe they have not been in business much longer than that.
I don't know why this company does what it does. A lot of it makes little sense. However, if I work there for a year under conditions that are not ideal, I will have an actual year of experience. Which is a fairly substantial milestone. Assuming they don't stick me in another department. That's another thing they like to do. They have hired accountants who temped there as accountants, and then told them they would now work in the call center or some other part of their business.
So, I'm wondering if I should do this. I have a slight moral problem with assisting in this company in it's poor business practices, but also... My sister says that getting fired from a company is a pretty big deal, and that it would be better just to leave when my temp contract ends, and not take a job from them even if it is offered. Can anyone give me any advice on what I should do and why?
I recently graduated from college, I studied accounting. I know from friends of friends of people that were the previous accountants, including a former CFO, that they fire pretty much their entire accounting department every year and replace them with the current batch of temps. This has happened every year for the last four years, and I believe they have not been in business much longer than that.
I don't know why this company does what it does. A lot of it makes little sense. However, if I work there for a year under conditions that are not ideal, I will have an actual year of experience. Which is a fairly substantial milestone. Assuming they don't stick me in another department. That's another thing they like to do. They have hired accountants who temped there as accountants, and then told them they would now work in the call center or some other part of their business.
So, I'm wondering if I should do this. I have a slight moral problem with assisting in this company in it's poor business practices, but also... My sister says that getting fired from a company is a pretty big deal, and that it would be better just to leave when my temp contract ends, and not take a job from them even if it is offered. Can anyone give me any advice on what I should do and why?
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that said, i wouldn't do it. 'a year of experience' isn't a homogenous thing - this sounds like especially cheap experience, and may ultimately set back your quest to start a meaningful career. this place has a palpably bad reputation, and even if you're a pawn in their game when you have that name on your cv you end up reflecting those values
Probably a good place to start. There's career, and then there's paying the bills. Right out of college, in a job market that's still anemic at best, you may just have to bite the bullet if it means money coming in vs. waiting around a couple of months hoping something better comes along. Another question is if they fire or lay off the staff? The two mean very different things.
In all honesty, I would say your best bet is to consider this as an offer of extension for your temp contract rather than a permanent position. If you need the money, then take the job and keep looking for more permanent employment on the side. If this gives you more time to find a job with a better company, then you should take it. Just read your contract carefully and make sure it has no non-compete clauses in it.
If the pay is good and the experience is relevant, than go for it. Just be aware you will have two jobs - that one and looking for your next.
if they move you to an area where you won't get useful experience, you can quit. its not going to hurt you in your next job interview if they ask you why you left. leaving a job because it won't give you any experience in your chosen field is actually a pretty valid reason that people will respect and sounds way better than the usual 'didn't like my boss, coworkers, cubicle, hours, pay, etc' shtick.
as long as you know what you're getting into and keep looking for something better, you'll be fine. their business practices are only your problem if they are illegal or you actually want to make a career out of working there.
Edit: Also, if they have the reputation around town you say they have then no one will hold you quitting to move to a different company against you.
I am assuming that you have no other accounting related work options at the moment and so your only other options are work in an unrelated field or unemployment?
If that's the case then take this job and start looking for the next. Your alternatives are all much worse then having a short work history in your chosen career field.
Also, as for your concern about getting a black mark on your record from this company. Officially, all they can do when another employer calls them is confirm you worked there, and possibly comment on if they would hire you again. So whatever they call it, its not firing you with prejudice, so they are unlikely to do anything but say yes to the above questions. (Unless you are a silly goose)
Agreed, except that he should start after maybe 1-3 months and simply use the higher salary as a bargaining chip. Getting a paycheck while you search for a real job is not a bad thing.
Bonus points if he gets the "We feel that you let the team down" spiel from these guys if & when he quits before they can legally-distinct-from-firing-him-but yeah-actually-we'll-fire-him and spoils their plans. In my experience the companies that show the least loyalty and commitment to their stuff always seem to genuinely expect the most.
The only reason I went with 6 is that it looks better on a resume, I guess if he combines the temp exp with the new exp as one entry it will be a good way to go.
In my experience (doing accounting/finance related stuff at Deloitte FAS), looking for a job while having one made it easier, not more difficult to find a new job. If this company is kinda shady and you don't think they're important for your resume, you could start looking for a new job day 1. Nothing wrong with it, if anyone asks just say they want you to go from temp to perm but you want to explore other options. Aside from being true, this also makes you sound like an asset to the current company.
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