For me, the console "war" was never about which one I'd own lone term (I make no allusions, I will own both)...it was about which one I will own first, and thus hitch my wagon of primary console to. Just like this generation, I have both a 360 and a PS3, but the 360 was always my "primary console".
I'll end up with an XBone in my living room at some point, but it won't be my primary console. Sony won that right this generation, barring some major changes between now and the release of both systems.
Pretty much the exact same for me.
I'm not seeing any major advantage with the Xbox for now. It's possible that might change around launch, but I doubt it. PS4 is a hundred bucks cheaper and I've found PS+ to be a far, far better deal. Which means the Xbox One will get relegated to PS3 status: Wait for a price drop and a game I really want.
Though it'll probably actually be a workout program instead of a game.
I'm the same as GnomeTank. I will own both, like I owned all three currently. The "console war" is which one will get the lion's share of my multiconsole purchases and which will get purchased earlier. So, Sony and Microsoft are fighting for potentially a hundred plus game sales over the span of the generation.
I'm the same as GnomeTank. I will own both, like I owned all three currently. The "console war" is which one will get the lion's share of my multiconsole purchases and which will get purchased earlier. So, Sony and Microsoft are fighting for potentially a hundred plus game sales over the span of the generation.
Mmhm. I too have all three, but I don't think I've got 25 disc-based games combined for Wii and 360. I love 360 for its occasional exclusive indie gems (Mark of the Ninja, Insanely Twisted Shadow Planet), and the Wii... well, I loved Muramasa.
I'll probably get the one a year or three after its launch, when I can't stand not having played Below any longer.
'Chance, you are the best kind of whore.' -Henroid
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GnomeTankWhat the what?Portland, OregonRegistered Userregular
If you look at my game cabinet, it's a see of green from this generation, interspersed with the occasional dark gray and white. I own probably 10x as many 360 games as I do PS3/Wii combined.
Obviously the Wii is a different metric, as I pretty much only own the big first party stuff on that (Mario, Zelda, Metroid oh my).
If you look at my game cabinet, it's a see of green from this generation, interspersed with the occasional dark gray and white. I own probably 10x as many 360 games as I do PS3/Wii combined.
Obviously the Wii is a different metric, as I pretty much only own the big first party stuff on that (Mario, Zelda, Metroid oh my).
So not so many whites then, more reds and golds, eh?
If you look at my game cabinet, it's a see of green from this generation, interspersed with the occasional dark gray and white. I own probably 10x as many 360 games as I do PS3/Wii combined.
Obviously the Wii is a different metric, as I pretty much only own the big first party stuff on that (Mario, Zelda, Metroid oh my).
...
Stop living my life.
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GnomeTankWhat the what?Portland, OregonRegistered Userregular
If you look at my game cabinet, it's a see of green from this generation, interspersed with the occasional dark gray and white. I own probably 10x as many 360 games as I do PS3/Wii combined.
Obviously the Wii is a different metric, as I pretty much only own the big first party stuff on that (Mario, Zelda, Metroid oh my).
So not so many whites then, more reds and golds, eh?
Metroid Prime Trilogy has a more normal looking Wii case when it's sleeve is on over the metallic case. And both Zelda's have white spines (the side you see when you open my cabinet).
Oh, give it time, Gandalf. Sony won the opening salvo, but just wait. MS has resources; they're not going to go quietly into the night. Expect the next few years to see all kinds of media deals, cross-promotion, advertising, etc.
Not just that, but Microsoft's long game is actually pretty good. Yeah, they fucked up and tried to garble together a bunch of toxic polices that turn physical media into digital. But - huge but here - their digital polices are actually not all that bad! Minus the 24-hour connectivity requirement. a number of their digital policies are actually pretty progressive. Look at their family plan, or their digital game lending plan. Nothing like that exists in the video game digital marketplace. Not even Steam lets you do anything like that. If they built in a way to sell your digital license to someone else, oh boy, look out. That would be a fairly big game changer for digital media.
I agree with you here. Its why I expect that in three years we will see an Xbox1 that is Digital only, no Blu-Ray drive, with the added benefit of not having the 24-hour check in required. If they remove the kinect requirement too (which they should be able to do since they'll have a large enough install base at that point) they will have a real system seller. I know I'd buy one at that point.
I disagree based on the bolded; if you want your device to be the center of the living room and the frontman for cable TV, you don't remove BD Playback.
You do when you are switching everything to digital. You get the blu-ray drive out of there and stream video in HD instead. Its the direction everything is moving in, and Microsoft seems to want to be the first people there.
US internet speeds are nowhere near capable enough for all digital HD video streaming nationwide. My landlady refuses to go above the 6MB DSL, and my GF couldn't even get cable in her old place. Maybe by the next generation of consoles, except by that time we'll have moved from 1080P to 4K.
But the media/ISP oligopoly-thing here is the reason why we can't have nice things.
GnomeTankWhat the what?Portland, OregonRegistered Userregular
Another reason PSN+ rocks: Automatic fucking updates. Come home, turn console on, everything is updated, like David Copperfield levels of "I'm in the future" magic.
Another reason PSN+ rocks: Automatic fucking updates. Come home, turn console on, everything is updated, like David Copperfield levels of "I'm in the future" magic.
The only time I dislike that is when I reach for my Vita after a few days (E3 kept me pretty busy), and discover it's drained its battery keeping in touch with the cloud. I hit the power button.
Nothing.
Black screen.
"Baby? Baby? Oh God, speak to me!"
But yeah, it just needed to get plugged in. Scary, though.
Edit: I love the automatic cloud saves. Boot up the PS3, and the first thing it tells me is "I backed up all your progress in Resonance of Fate to the online servers, Dave."
(A prudent nod.) Thank you, PS3.
Chance on
'Chance, you are the best kind of whore.' -Henroid
The misreporting of xbox policy and strategy works both ways. I have a sneaking suspicion that the family share just happens to be another not quite decided on policy that is working in their favor for once. That's why they're not correcting it, but not really commenting either.
Agreed. The thing about this family plan is that, if it's really as open as people hope, publishers are going to hate it FAR more than they've ever hated the used market. They hated the way you used to be able to share PSN games between 5 people, enough that Sony eventually brought that down to 2, and this would be doubling it. So I see either two scenarios: One where it's everything people hoped and only lasts a year before publishers force Microsoft to change it. And the other where it's nowhere near as good as hoped.
Another reason PSN+ rocks: Automatic fucking updates. Come home, turn console on, everything is updated, like David Copperfield levels of "I'm in the future" magic.
I wouldn't be able to take advantage of that actually, because I keep all of my devices powered off to save electricity and also so they don't explode in the ridiculous heat we have here in Australia during Summer. So I will still be waiting for game updates when they happen, like always :P
Another reason PSN+ rocks: Automatic fucking updates. Come home, turn console on, everything is updated, like David Copperfield levels of "I'm in the future" magic.
I wouldn't be able to take advantage of that actually, because I keep all of my devices powered off to save electricity and also so they don't explode in the ridiculous heat we have here in Australia during Summer. So I will still be waiting for game updates when they happen, like always :P
Electricity where I live is plentiful, renewable and cheap as fuck. I am in a unique electricity position, where I care less. I could pay it forward by lowering my total carbon footprint even more, to offset someone else...but I like my automatic updates.
Another reason PSN+ rocks: Automatic fucking updates. Come home, turn console on, everything is updated, like David Copperfield levels of "I'm in the future" magic.
I wouldn't be able to take advantage of that actually, because I keep all of my devices powered off to save electricity and also so they don't explode in the ridiculous heat we have here in Australia during Summer. So I will still be waiting for game updates when they happen, like always :P
Electricity where I live is plentiful, renewable and cheap as fuck. I am in a unique electricity position, where I care less. I could pay it forward by lowering my total carbon footprint even more, to offset someone else...but I like my automatic updates.
Are you implying I should move to get better electricity?!
Why, my glove is off now good sir and I will defend my countries honor!
Another reason PSN+ rocks: Automatic fucking updates. Come home, turn console on, everything is updated, like David Copperfield levels of "I'm in the future" magic.
I wouldn't be able to take advantage of that actually, because I keep all of my devices powered off to save electricity and also so they don't explode in the ridiculous heat we have here in Australia during Summer. So I will still be waiting for game updates when they happen, like always :P
Electricity where I live is plentiful, renewable and cheap as fuck. I am in a unique electricity position, where I care less. I could pay it forward by lowering my total carbon footprint even more, to offset someone else...but I like my automatic updates.
Are you implying I should move to get better electricity?!
Why, my glove is off now good sir and I will defend my countries honor!
After dawn, of course. Can't see in the dark without electric lights.
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GnomeTankWhat the what?Portland, OregonRegistered Userregular
Another reason PSN+ rocks: Automatic fucking updates. Come home, turn console on, everything is updated, like David Copperfield levels of "I'm in the future" magic.
I wouldn't be able to take advantage of that actually, because I keep all of my devices powered off to save electricity and also so they don't explode in the ridiculous heat we have here in Australia during Summer. So I will still be waiting for game updates when they happen, like always :P
Electricity where I live is plentiful, renewable and cheap as fuck. I am in a unique electricity position, where I care less. I could pay it forward by lowering my total carbon footprint even more, to offset someone else...but I like my automatic updates.
Are you implying I should move to get better electricity?!
Why, my glove is off now good sir and I will defend my countries honor!
No, I'm just implying that if the zombie apocalypse happens, where I live would be a prime place to reboot society since it has plentiful natural resources, plentiful easily produced electricity and is very temperate.
Australia will be a barren wasteland that no one will bother to reinhabit. Leave it to the four thousand varieties of poisonous spider.
I thought that after the zombie apocalypse any society that reboots would be in very cold areas, like northern Canada or Finland. Because zombies freeze.
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GnomeTankWhat the what?Portland, OregonRegistered Userregular
I'm assuming society won't reboot until the zombies have basically starved off, which in most predictive models would take about 50 years with no consistent source of human brain matter.
I thought that after the zombie apocalypse any society that reboots would be in very cold areas, like northern Canada or Finland. Because zombies freeze.
We still get summer up here. The problem with zombies freezing in winter is that they thaw in spring.
'Chance, you are the best kind of whore.' -Henroid
Australia will obviously be the first place to be clear of zombies. It will spontaneously evolve Headshot Spiders that can leap at high velocity and punch right through bone.
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Australia will obviously be the first place to be clear of zombies. It will spontaneously evolve Headshot Spiders that can leap at high velocity and punch right through bone.
And then they'll get zombified, and start attacking kangaroos. Also humans.
Australians has ample opportunity to be electrically self-sufficient. Hell, the head of Western Power was recently in the news wah-wah'd about people who exist solely off solar power because they're not paying their share of maintaining the national power grid.
Hey guy, do you enjoy the power I'm giving you at less than half the price you charge for it? Such a jerk.
I'm now a member of the super good fun-times PS+ club! I'm gonna spend some time next week that I'm home moving the PS3 out of the neglected theatre and into the well-loved family room to get reacquainted. Also, I see a Vita in my immediate future Remote play of Shadow of the Colossus is gonna be soooo good
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chiasaur11Never doubt a raccoon.Do you think it's trademarked?Registered Userregular
I thought that after the zombie apocalypse any society that reboots would be in very cold areas, like northern Canada or Finland. Because zombies freeze.
We still get summer up here. The problem with zombies freezing in winter is that they thaw in spring.
But you could do a pretty good job trimming them in the winter months with no risk.
I thought that after the zombie apocalypse any society that reboots would be in very cold areas, like northern Canada or Finland. Because zombies freeze.
We still get summer up here. The problem with zombies freezing in winter is that they thaw in spring.
But you could do a pretty good job trimming them in the winter months with no risk.
Yeah, watching hordes of toothless, armless, legless zombies nub their way across cities could actually be well worth that.
Also, dressing them up in funny costumes.
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Dhalphirdon't you open that trapdooryou're a fool if you dareRegistered Userregular
anyone else looking for @Aegeri's original ps4 comments from feburary that he referred to
i love reading forum history like that
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AegeriTiny wee bacteriumsPlateau of LengRegistered Userregular
anyone else looking for @Aegeri's original ps4 comments from feburary that he referred to
i love reading forum history like that
I did find this,
Maybe I am jaded, but games I already knew about, a couple of interesting but not spectacular looking new IPs, a port of one of the more disappointing games of last year (Diablo III) and not showing the actual console (or giving its price) makes this a gigantic waste of time to me.
But then again I am not a games journalist, where apparently Sony just saved the industry with this or some fucking shit.
Which arguably tells you everything you need to know about how I thought of things. It is immeasurably ironic that I actually feel that way at the moment about that last part. I do think Sony just saved the games industry for me.
Now help me decide between Killzone, Knack, Watch_dogs or BF4.
I have a pretty good gaming PC (2500k @ 4.6ghz, SLI GTX 580's) so I'm thinking BF4 is out and maybe Watch_dogs. I don't really like playing FPS games on consoles, but Killzone is an interesting exclusive so I might give it a shot. Then again Knack also looks interesting. But I also don't completely trust Ubisoft to port Watch_dogs properly to PC. Aghhhhhh
Australians has ample opportunity to be electrically self-sufficient. Hell, the head of Western Power was recently in the news wah-wah'd about people who exist solely off solar power because they're not paying their share of maintaining the national power grid.
Hey guy, do you enjoy the power I'm giving you at less than half the price you charge for it? Such a jerk.
I'm now a member of the super good fun-times PS+ club! I'm gonna spend some time next week that I'm home moving the PS3 out of the neglected theatre and into the well-loved family room to get reacquainted. Also, I see a Vita in my immediate future Remote play of Shadow of the Colossus is gonna be soooo good
worth pointing out that they are actually giving you the market value of electricity when they buy it from you
the extra cost per unit when you buy it from them is all taxes.
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Dhalphirdon't you open that trapdooryou're a fool if you dareRegistered Userregular
yeah i won't be buying any FPSes on the PS4, which is half the reason that the Xbox One is completely uninteresting to me, because all of the exciting games are FPS games.
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Dhalphirdon't you open that trapdooryou're a fool if you dareRegistered Userregular
is the narrator of the Knack reveal trailer Jennifer Hale?
yeah i won't be buying any FPSes on the PS4, which is half the reason that the Xbox One is completely uninteresting to me, because all of the exciting games are FPS games.
I prefer KBM but I don't think I can pass up on either The Division or Destiny. And both of those currently stand to not be released on the PC.
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Dhalphirdon't you open that trapdooryou're a fool if you dareRegistered Userregular
Destiny will be on PC, I wouldn't worry.
Honestly I'd rather miss out on a great FPS than ruin it by playing on a console, I just hate joysticks for aiming. They suck.
Why wouldn't you trust Ubisoft to port Watch Dogs? Is it because they're gonna have the game on 5 HD systems at once?
They've gotten slightly better over the last year, mainly with Far Cry 3, but I think Ubisoft still has a spotty record when it comes to ports. That said, the point is moot because I just read Watch_dogs' lead platform is PC anyways, so even more reason not to get that bundle.
It's too bad inFamous is Q1 2014 or that'd be an easy choice. I guess I'll go with Killzone. Sorry, my fellow master race. They're saying it's a lot more open-world now.
Honestly I'd rather miss out on a great FPS than ruin it by playing on a console, I just hate joysticks for aiming. They suck.
Reach, ODST, and Halo 3 never made it to the PC. Neither the Halo 1 nor the Halo 2 PC ports were handled by bungie.
The last time bungie put a game out on the PC themselves was what, Oni? That was 12 years ago.
So what makes you so sure about Destiny coming to PC?
Because Bungie is now contracted to Activision and loves money way more than they love trying to shove a console on people via exclusives?
No way would Activision not get Destiny to be one as many major systems as possible. Microsoft kept the Halo games on Xbox systems because they sold systems; Activision just wants to sell eighty billion copies of everything.
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And fair enough as well, it's sort of the point of trying to make a consumer product.
Honestly I'd rather miss out on a great FPS than ruin it by playing on a console, I just hate joysticks for aiming. They suck.
Reach, ODST, and Halo 3 never made it to the PC. Neither the Halo 1 nor the Halo 2 PC ports were handled by bungie.
The last time bungie put a game out on the PC themselves was what, Oni? That was 12 years ago.
So what makes you so sure about Destiny coming to PC?
because Activision has control (to a degree) of Bungie and Activision likes money.
The console landscape will also look very different this generation - the PS4 and Xbox look to be spots one and two rather than two and three like they were next to the Wii last generation.
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Pretty much the exact same for me.
I'm not seeing any major advantage with the Xbox for now. It's possible that might change around launch, but I doubt it. PS4 is a hundred bucks cheaper and I've found PS+ to be a far, far better deal. Which means the Xbox One will get relegated to PS3 status: Wait for a price drop and a game I really want.
Though it'll probably actually be a workout program instead of a game.
Mmhm. I too have all three, but I don't think I've got 25 disc-based games combined for Wii and 360. I love 360 for its occasional exclusive indie gems (Mark of the Ninja, Insanely Twisted Shadow Planet), and the Wii... well, I loved Muramasa.
I'll probably get the one a year or three after its launch, when I can't stand not having played Below any longer.
Obviously the Wii is a different metric, as I pretty much only own the big first party stuff on that (Mario, Zelda, Metroid oh my).
So not so many whites then, more reds and golds, eh?
...
Stop living my life.
Metroid Prime Trilogy has a more normal looking Wii case when it's sleeve is on over the metallic case. And both Zelda's have white spines (the side you see when you open my cabinet).
US internet speeds are nowhere near capable enough for all digital HD video streaming nationwide. My landlady refuses to go above the 6MB DSL, and my GF couldn't even get cable in her old place. Maybe by the next generation of consoles, except by that time we'll have moved from 1080P to 4K.
But the media/ISP oligopoly-thing here is the reason why we can't have nice things.
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The only time I dislike that is when I reach for my Vita after a few days (E3 kept me pretty busy), and discover it's drained its battery keeping in touch with the cloud. I hit the power button.
Nothing.
Black screen.
"Baby? Baby? Oh God, speak to me!"
But yeah, it just needed to get plugged in. Scary, though.
Edit: I love the automatic cloud saves. Boot up the PS3, and the first thing it tells me is "I backed up all your progress in Resonance of Fate to the online servers, Dave."
(A prudent nod.) Thank you, PS3.
Agreed. The thing about this family plan is that, if it's really as open as people hope, publishers are going to hate it FAR more than they've ever hated the used market. They hated the way you used to be able to share PSN games between 5 people, enough that Sony eventually brought that down to 2, and this would be doubling it. So I see either two scenarios: One where it's everything people hoped and only lasts a year before publishers force Microsoft to change it. And the other where it's nowhere near as good as hoped.
I wouldn't be able to take advantage of that actually, because I keep all of my devices powered off to save electricity and also so they don't explode in the ridiculous heat we have here in Australia during Summer. So I will still be waiting for game updates when they happen, like always :P
Electricity where I live is plentiful, renewable and cheap as fuck. I am in a unique electricity position, where I care less. I could pay it forward by lowering my total carbon footprint even more, to offset someone else...but I like my automatic updates.
Are you implying I should move to get better electricity?!
Why, my glove is off now good sir and I will defend my countries honor!
After dawn, of course. Can't see in the dark without electric lights.
No, I'm just implying that if the zombie apocalypse happens, where I live would be a prime place to reboot society since it has plentiful natural resources, plentiful easily produced electricity and is very temperate.
Australia will be a barren wasteland that no one will bother to reinhabit. Leave it to the four thousand varieties of poisonous spider.
We still get summer up here. The problem with zombies freezing in winter is that they thaw in spring.
And then they'll get zombified, and start attacking kangaroos. Also humans.
The best thing: You could make it as an Indie and it'd likely end up on the PS4!
Hey guy, do you enjoy the power I'm giving you at less than half the price you charge for it? Such a jerk.
I'm now a member of the super good fun-times PS+ club! I'm gonna spend some time next week that I'm home moving the PS3 out of the neglected theatre and into the well-loved family room to get reacquainted. Also, I see a Vita in my immediate future
But you could do a pretty good job trimming them in the winter months with no risk.
Why I fear the ocean.
Yeah, watching hordes of toothless, armless, legless zombies nub their way across cities could actually be well worth that.
Also, dressing them up in funny costumes.
i love reading forum history like that
I did find this,
Which arguably tells you everything you need to know about how I thought of things. It is immeasurably ironic that I actually feel that way at the moment about that last part. I do think Sony just saved the games industry for me.
For those who missed a launch console from Amazon, they've now got Launch Day Bundles up.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BGA9WK2/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00BGA9WK2&linkCode=as2&tag=editorial08-20
Now help me decide between Killzone, Knack, Watch_dogs or BF4.
I have a pretty good gaming PC (2500k @ 4.6ghz, SLI GTX 580's) so I'm thinking BF4 is out and maybe Watch_dogs. I don't really like playing FPS games on consoles, but Killzone is an interesting exclusive so I might give it a shot. Then again Knack also looks interesting. But I also don't completely trust Ubisoft to port Watch_dogs properly to PC. Aghhhhhh
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worth pointing out that they are actually giving you the market value of electricity when they buy it from you
the extra cost per unit when you buy it from them is all taxes.
I prefer KBM but I don't think I can pass up on either The Division or Destiny. And both of those currently stand to not be released on the PC.
Honestly I'd rather miss out on a great FPS than ruin it by playing on a console, I just hate joysticks for aiming. They suck.
It's too bad inFamous is Q1 2014 or that'd be an easy choice. I guess I'll go with Killzone. Sorry, my fellow master race. They're saying it's a lot more open-world now.
Reach, ODST, and Halo 3 never made it to the PC. Neither the Halo 1 nor the Halo 2 PC ports were handled by bungie.
The last time bungie put a game out on the PC themselves was what, Oni? That was 12 years ago.
So what makes you so sure about Destiny coming to PC?
Because Bungie is now contracted to Activision and loves money way more than they love trying to shove a console on people via exclusives?
No way would Activision not get Destiny to be one as many major systems as possible. Microsoft kept the Halo games on Xbox systems because they sold systems; Activision just wants to sell eighty billion copies of everything.
because Activision has control (to a degree) of Bungie and Activision likes money.
The console landscape will also look very different this generation - the PS4 and Xbox look to be spots one and two rather than two and three like they were next to the Wii last generation.