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  • 38thDoe38thDoe lets never be stupid again wait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered User regular
    So many things to spend stones and stamina on...

    Anybody know the best level in castle of satan/abyss for finding mystic knights during the event? I've got all of them except blue but could use some skill ups, and could really use a fenrir.

    Also, as someone who is just getting into the late-game content, what's a good skydragon rush master team that doesn't rely on having the really high tier gods? I've got a Ra but he's pretty low level and I have my doubts about pulling that many combos regularly. If the best way to go is high atk multiplier to pound through the dragons, I guess I'm best off (given my selection of multiplier dudes) with meimei or ardberg as leader with maybe another ardberg or isis friend? Or is that not likely to be enough? I was thinking an odin team would be safe enough with the dragons' damage output until I noticed that they're all multi-attack.

    Each color Mystic Knight will be on a specific floor only, schedule will likely be posted once it gets under way.

    Skydragon rush master isn't that bad, grind teams should be okay, just need a way to heal. Check the bottom of this page.
    http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/Sky_Dragon_Rush!

    Of course, if you can't clear legend you won't get the stone from the dungeon, and the drop rates are pretty awful for anything except legend, where they may be as high as 40%. I guess there is decent rank up exp, but similar to Tier 5 dungeons. meh.

  • gjaustingjaustin Registered User regular
    38thDoe wrote: »
    Kick_04 wrote: »
    If you have genie can run Satan with Goemon.

    It is a heartless dungeon so don't have to worry about sky falls.

    Technically you can bounce your hp to get through as well. Hmm.

    edit: no good. If I bring Raphael, his full screen heal would recover 10k. Also, how would I kill Hades anyways. Dumb idea.
    I'm thinking I might be able to manage it if I use my CoC Glorious Healer. Run some higher RCV monsters (e.g. Horus) and hope I get a large enough combo to get me up to 7k health.

    I kind of want Satan, because he's spectacular for no RCV dungeons. He has 6666 health at max level! And he's spectacular for (some) Goemon runs since he completely blows away your RCV!


    @CptHamilton - Odin can still be pretty good on multi-attacks. He'll resist 40% of a double attack or 26.4% of a triple attack. But Odin won't work on Skydragon Rush, because it has no heart orbs. I'm going to try running it with Byakko, so Meimei is probably your best shot.

  • BillmaanBillmaan Registered User regular
    Imperfect wrote: »
    Oi, I'm having fun with the game, but it kinda saddens me that there's an easy way to get fucked right at the beginning so easy, just by playing the game as told and not knowing what the super-sekrit god-tier monsters are.

    Fuck it, I've played the first day's worth of shit twice now, I'm not so dedicated that I need to re-play it all again. I'm saving my stones for whatever crazy event y'all are talking about and maybe I can pull something not-trash from it, whatever.

    Don't worry about it. I didn't know any of this when I started, and in fact my first "rare" monster (succubus) was pretty crap, relatively speaking. You'll be fine. A few months down the line you might find yourself thinking "gosh, I wish I had a Horus", but it's not going to prevent you from progressing.

    The one thing you do need to know: don't waste your stones. Buying extra monster boxes is fine (for reference, I'm sitting at 150; 100 was good enough for a long while). Do not spend stones to refresh stamina, and never ever spend them to continue a dungeon. (There are exceptions to this, but they don't kick in until the endgame.) And the number one rule: never roll outside a godfest. This means you should never spend stones on the rare egg machine unless there's a "godfest" going on -- a special event that increases your chances of getting god monsters.

    Gnome-Interruptus
  • tbloxhamtbloxham Registered User regular
    Billmaan wrote: »
    Imperfect wrote: »
    Oi, I'm having fun with the game, but it kinda saddens me that there's an easy way to get fucked right at the beginning so easy, just by playing the game as told and not knowing what the super-sekrit god-tier monsters are.

    Fuck it, I've played the first day's worth of shit twice now, I'm not so dedicated that I need to re-play it all again. I'm saving my stones for whatever crazy event y'all are talking about and maybe I can pull something not-trash from it, whatever.

    Don't worry about it. I didn't know any of this when I started, and in fact my first "rare" monster (succubus) was pretty crap, relatively speaking. You'll be fine. A few months down the line you might find yourself thinking "gosh, I wish I had a Horus", but it's not going to prevent you from progressing.

    The one thing you do need to know: don't waste your stones. Buying extra monster boxes is fine (for reference, I'm sitting at 150; 100 was good enough for a long while). Do not spend stones to refresh stamina, and never ever spend them to continue a dungeon. (There are exceptions to this, but they don't kick in until the endgame.) And the number one rule: never roll outside a godfest. This means you should never spend stones on the rare egg machine unless there's a "godfest" going on -- a special event that increases your chances of getting god monsters.

    The exception is pretty easy to calculate. Did a monster already drop, or is one guaranteed to drop if you spend the stone, that you would have been glad to see come out of the rare egg machine. If so, are you SURE you will win the level if you spend the stones. If so, then spend.

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  • CptHamiltonCptHamilton Registered User regular
    Also: are you really pissed off that you just died because you fucked up an orb match? 'cause I know I've spent a few stones that way.

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  • Kick_04Kick_04 Registered User regular
    38thDoe wrote: »
    So many things to spend stones and stamina on...

    Anybody know the best level in castle of satan/abyss for finding mystic knights during the event? I've got all of them except blue but could use some skill ups, and could really use a fenrir.

    Also, as someone who is just getting into the late-game content, what's a good skydragon rush master team that doesn't rely on having the really high tier gods? I've got a Ra but he's pretty low level and I have my doubts about pulling that many combos regularly. If the best way to go is high atk multiplier to pound through the dragons, I guess I'm best off (given my selection of multiplier dudes) with meimei or ardberg as leader with maybe another ardberg or isis friend? Or is that not likely to be enough? I was thinking an odin team would be safe enough with the dragons' damage output until I noticed that they're all multi-attack.

    Each color Mystic Knight will be on a specific floor only, schedule will likely be posted once it gets under way.

    Skydragon rush master isn't that bad, grind teams should be okay, just need a way to heal. Check the bottom of this page.
    http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/Sky_Dragon_Rush!

    Of course, if you can't clear legend you won't get the stone from the dungeon, and the drop rates are pretty awful for anything except legend, where they may be as high as 40%. I guess there is decent rank up exp, but similar to Tier 5 dungeons. meh.

    Only reason I plan on running Sky Dragon Rush (because I can't do Legendary) is for the chance to get the invade dragon and than get multiple's of the sky dragons for the Awoken abilities.... depending on how hard the dungeon is I might only run Master once.

    Still not sure of a good team, kind of torn between a high attack team + siren with GrOdin lead and Ama friend. Or running my AA Raph lead with an all light team and a Ama friend. Or running my AA Gabriel lead with an all water team (dual sirens max skill) and another Gabriel friend and grind away.

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  • CantideCantide Registered User regular
    Kick_04 wrote: »
    38thDoe wrote: »
    So many things to spend stones and stamina on...

    Anybody know the best level in castle of satan/abyss for finding mystic knights during the event? I've got all of them except blue but could use some skill ups, and could really use a fenrir.

    Also, as someone who is just getting into the late-game content, what's a good skydragon rush master team that doesn't rely on having the really high tier gods? I've got a Ra but he's pretty low level and I have my doubts about pulling that many combos regularly. If the best way to go is high atk multiplier to pound through the dragons, I guess I'm best off (given my selection of multiplier dudes) with meimei or ardberg as leader with maybe another ardberg or isis friend? Or is that not likely to be enough? I was thinking an odin team would be safe enough with the dragons' damage output until I noticed that they're all multi-attack.

    Each color Mystic Knight will be on a specific floor only, schedule will likely be posted once it gets under way.

    Skydragon rush master isn't that bad, grind teams should be okay, just need a way to heal. Check the bottom of this page.
    http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/Sky_Dragon_Rush!

    Of course, if you can't clear legend you won't get the stone from the dungeon, and the drop rates are pretty awful for anything except legend, where they may be as high as 40%. I guess there is decent rank up exp, but similar to Tier 5 dungeons. meh.

    Only reason I plan on running Sky Dragon Rush (because I can't do Legendary) is for the chance to get the invade dragon and than get multiple's of the sky dragons for the Awoken abilities.... depending on how hard the dungeon is I might only run Master once.

    Still not sure of a good team, kind of torn between a high attack team + siren with GrOdin lead and Ama friend. Or running my AA Raph lead with an all light team and a Ama friend. Or running my AA Gabriel lead with an all water team (dual sirens max skill) and another Gabriel friend and grind away.

    Unfortunately, according to the PAD wiki the invade dragon is only on Legendary.

  • Kick_04Kick_04 Registered User regular
    well ,.I.. GungHo


    I know I am going to be farming the tower of Jewels tomorrow with same team I use for Ocean of Heaven.

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  • SmoogySmoogy Registered User regular
    Apparently Byakko can do it, but I don't really want to risk it.

    On another note, thank goodness for Blue Noel! Just really easily did Ardberg Legend with Blue Noel/Fenrir/Siren/Hera-Is/Blue Odin/Hermes. Just took ~25 min. Would have been faster if i could have burst down Alraune before she resurrected.

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  • TannerMSTannerMS "I'm confidence cause I'm zerg!" Registered User regular
    Smoogy wrote: »
    Apparently Byakko can do it, but I don't really want to risk it.

    On another note, thank goodness for Blue Noel! Just really easily did Ardberg Legend with Blue Noel/Fenrir/Siren/Hera-Is/Blue Odin/Hermes. Just took ~25 min. Would have been faster if i could have burst down Alraune before she resurrected.

    Hey Smoogy, have you run Goemon with mono-water yet? I'm thinking about attempting it with that same team on Monday (minus Odin for Siegfried)

  • SmoogySmoogy Registered User regular
    edited September 2013
    I only recently got the Blue Noel, so I haven't. I'm either going to do Mono-Water or my typical MLD/double gravity/Siren/RK/Lucifer Descend team for Goemon. I don't really anticipate problems with either for Legend.

    Why not just run your I&I with Hermes? I think that would plow through.

    Smoogy on
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  • TannerMSTannerMS "I'm confidence cause I'm zerg!" Registered User regular
    Maybe I'll give that a shot first, it would certainly be a lot faster.

  • SmoogySmoogy Registered User regular
    High risk, high reward!

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  • Kick_04Kick_04 Registered User regular
    You juse use the mono water team and eat the stone on wave 4? (for Goemon)

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  • TannerMSTannerMS "I'm confidence cause I'm zerg!" Registered User regular
    I think she only disables for 1-3 turns once so it shouldn't be a problem to heal through

  • BillmaanBillmaan Registered User regular
    edited September 2013
    TannerMS wrote: »
    I think she only disables for 1-3 turns once so it shouldn't be a problem to heal through
    Losing your 4x HP / 4x RCV for 3 turns against a boss hitting for nearly 10k per turn would be rough.

    edit: oh hey those are the numbers for mythical, not legend. Yeah, I guess legend wouldn't be so bad, especially since she wastes one of those turns laughing at you.

    Billmaan on
  • SmoogySmoogy Registered User regular
    Also, I think a common strategy is to bring Midgard and pop defensive stance before fox girl and Goemon.

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    38thDoe
  • gjaustingjaustin Registered User regular
    Update is active in Japan.

    It's looking like most monsters have 3 Awakening skills

  • 38thDoe38thDoe lets never be stupid again wait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered User regular
    I'm updating my JP app now, I can post random things in my box if anyone cares.

  • gjaustingjaustin Registered User regular
    edited September 2013
    Yes, please!

    From the forums:

    Valk Awake Skills: Light Orb Enhance, HP Up, Atk Up
    Fuu Awake Skills (and Ruka, probably all 5 sticker girls): HP Up, Auto Recovery, Bind Recovery
    Shynee Awake Skills: RCV Up, RCV Up
    Athena Awake Skills: Double Blindness Resistance, Two-Way Attack.
    Ceres: Auto Heal (yessss), Double Bind Recovery
    Hera: Dark Resistance, Dark Orb Enhancement, Attack Up
    Apollo: HP Up, Atk Up, RCV Up
    Siren (and naga, probably all 5 healer girls): Bind Resist, RCV Up, Auto Heal

    ADK (and probably all mystic knights): Two Way Attack, Enhanced Orb Drop of Color, HP Up
    Amaterasu: Bind Recovery, Double Bind Resist (cool!)
    OOParts Dark Artifact: Skill Boost, Dark Orb Enhancement
    Regalus: Skill Boost, Light Orb Enhancement

    Red Ripper (and probably all rippers): Double Resist of Color of Ripper, Skill Boost
    Genbu (all 3.5x Chinese Gods are probably the same): Light Orb Enhance, Dark Orb Enhance, Green Orb Enhance (!)

    gjaustin on
  • 38thDoe38thDoe lets never be stupid again wait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered User regular
    What forums? Puzzle and dragons? I'm not finding the thread.

  • gjaustingjaustin Registered User regular
    edited September 2013
    It's the last post in the news thread in the JP forum.

    http://www.puzzleanddragonsforum.com/showthread.php?tid=13548&pid=156988#pid156988

    gjaustin on
  • AtaxrxesAtaxrxes Hellnation Cursed EarthRegistered User regular
    So seriously, how to beat Satan with no RCV?

  • 38thDoe38thDoe lets never be stupid again wait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered User regular
    Horus:
    Resist R/B/G

    All Ancient Dragons/Legendary/Sky Dragons
    Boost their color orbs
    and
    Boost cooldown.

    LOL
    Dark Kagutsuchi
    Double Attack
    Attack+
    Attack+

    Kirin
    Light Orb Enhance
    Jammer Resist
    Dark Resist

    Isis
    Boost R/G/B Orbs

    Satan
    Boost Dark Damage x3

    Apollo
    HP
    Atk
    RCV

    Lucifer
    Atk x3

    Bastet
    Orb time extend
    Green Damage boost
    Poison Resist

    Neptune
    Poison Resist x2
    Blue Orb Enhance

    Thanatos
    Skill cooldown boost
    RCV
    Dark Damage Boost

    Siren
    Dark Resist
    Autoheal
    RCV



    Confirming that Naga doesn't get skills until red empress.

  • 38thDoe38thDoe lets never be stupid again wait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered User regular
    Ataxrxes wrote: »
    So seriously, how to beat Satan with no RCV?
    Roll Kirin/Ra/Genie

  • gjaustingjaustin Registered User regular
    So all the Dragons are still pretty much terrible?

    On the bright side, I only need one more Ancient Fire Dragon.

  • Kick_04Kick_04 Registered User regular
    So how does these awoken skills work?

    Like if I have D/D Hades lead and than have a sub Dark Ripper with double resist, does it count towards my resist? or does it only count if Dark Ripper is in lead?

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  • 38thDoe38thDoe lets never be stupid again wait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered User regular
    gjaustin wrote: »
    So all the Dragons are still pretty much terrible?

    On the bright side, I only need one more Ancient Fire Dragon.
    Pretty much. The rippers might actually be most useful since they can help resist as a sub. Wonder what the magic stone dragons got.
    Kick_04 wrote: »
    So how does these awoken skills work?

    Like if I have D/D Hades lead and than have a sub Dark Ripper with double resist, does it count towards my resist? or does it only count if Dark Ripper is in lead?

    Awoken skills work as subs. We don't know resist amount or auto heal amount yet.

  • gjaustingjaustin Registered User regular
    If the Rippers turn out to be the only source of double resist, I may regret never actually evolving any.

    Though I think I saw that the Toy dragons have it too. But Drawn Joker has Light Resist o_O

  • 38thDoe38thDoe lets never be stupid again wait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered User regular
    At least they gave Kirin and Lucifer sub-optimal skills. Too little, too late, but at least they thought of it.

  • Kick_04Kick_04 Registered User regular
    I only ever evolved my light ripper... have dark/red in second form. Green/blue in baby form.

    I just ultimated evo my Drawn Joker + have final evo on Fortoytops & Megalodran


    Need to start leveling my GrOdin so I can feed him for an Awoken skill + the one time dungeon to feed for an awoken skill to GrOdin.

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  • gjaustingjaustin Registered User regular
    On auto-recover, I'd bet my Lucifer that it won't be more than 1xRCV

    And I really like that Horus gets three different resists. That's actually kind of useful for him!

  • 38thDoe38thDoe lets never be stupid again wait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered User regular
    gjaustin wrote: »
    On auto-recover, I'd bet my Lucifer that it won't be more than 1xRCV

    And I really like that Horus gets three different resists. That's actually kind of useful for him!

    Even 1xRCV would be game changing I think.

    Depending on Resist amount. Really curious on these specifics.

  • 38thDoe38thDoe lets never be stupid again wait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered User regular
  • mtsmts Dr. Robot King Registered User regular
    they really need to bump up the healer girls. my poor arcangel has fallen hard from grace

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  • gjaustingjaustin Registered User regular
    mts wrote: »
    they really need to bump up the healer girls. my poor arcangel has fallen hard from grace
    Archangel and Alarune supposedly get double Auto-Heal!!!
    38thDoe wrote: »
    gjaustin wrote: »
    On auto-recover, I'd bet my Lucifer that it won't be more than 1xRCV

    And I really like that Horus gets three different resists. That's actually kind of useful for him!

    Even 1xRCV would be game changing I think.

    Depending on Resist amount. Really curious on these specifics.
    As am I. I really am hoping for something game changing. If Freyja gets the same skills as Loki, my Wood team will be set!

  • 38thDoe38thDoe lets never be stupid again wait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered User regular
    edited September 2013
    The best one that can be easily attained at this point looks like King Bubblie -2 skill cooldowns. This will be great on Goemon Team.
    Freyja does get the same awoken skills as Loki.

    38thDoe on
  • gjaustingjaustin Registered User regular
    Yeah, King Bubblie looks like he'll be quite good.

    I think the ones that'll change things around the most are the Toy Dragons (assuming the resist is something like 10%), Norse Gods, and the auto-healers.

  • SmoogySmoogy Registered User regular
    Really exciting!!! This appears to revitalize some dead monsters, which is only a good thing. Can't wait to see how this rolls out.

    And, Doe, I know it sucks, but Kirin and Lucifer are here to stay. People have them and people are going to use them if they do. You can still get them yourself with lucky rolls in the future, perhaps. I agree that they are too good, but we have to accept that they are part of the game and move on.

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  • gjaustingjaustin Registered User regular
    Apparently the resist is 2% ?!?!?!

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