It is a shame Dragonbowling is no longer a thing, because you could have been yelling WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK I AM while knocking Stalkers flat on their asses.
I can actually counter your "we don't know the details, data etc."
There may be a "PBE" like environment for MWO. And that said environment may have been balanced for the last ~month now. If this was...to be true and infact a real thing, and the change just might be a heat increase to PPC's which balanced this "PBE". Then why is it not on live if it was literally a simple fix? Just as WE ALL have theorized and concluded would have been the logical thing to quickly, and efficiently address even as if a temporary measure. They...still...don't...do...it.
At that point, it's safe to assume PGI's balance system for live is bad and needs to be re-hauled, which i stated initially pages back.
Of course, You have no way of telling if this is true or not. But just because YOU are missing information and details does not mean everyone is.
Yes but being that I am in this argument with you, and not this fictional group of people I don't know, that means I don't have to care about other people who may or may not possess that information. Only you, and YOU don't have access to it.
Neither of us have access to this "PBE" which means it's just like the situation in where we don't have access to what the developers know.
That is certainly an interesting tactic to take in this discussion however. "Yeah well other people might know more stuff than we know, and you don't know what they know so that's why this is just a simple fix, even though I don't know what they know either."
But suppose you are right and there is a PBE that has been balanced for a month and just hasn't been pushed to live yet. That doesn't mean anything aside from there being some thing preventing them from pushing it through. Which ends up back at the developers again and our speculations as to why it can or cannot be pushed to live.
I don't stream anymore for a reason. Because live sucks. And live has sucked for the past 2 months.
Yay for you? O.o That's great and all but really has nothing to do with anything we were discussing. I'm sorry you feel that way.
You are missing the point...
Never mind, you will find out on your own in the late patch in July.
I can actually counter your "we don't know the details, data etc."
There may be a "PBE" like environment for MWO. And that said environment may have been balanced for the last ~month now. If this was...to be true and infact a real thing, and the change just might be a heat increase to PPC's which balanced this "PBE". Then why is it not on live if it was literally a simple fix? Just as WE ALL have theorized and concluded would have been the logical thing to quickly, and efficiently address even as if a temporary measure. They...still...don't...do...it.
At that point, it's safe to assume PGI's balance system for live is bad and needs to be re-hauled, which i stated initially pages back.
Of course, You have no way of telling if this is true or not. But just because YOU are missing information and details does not mean everyone is.
Yes but being that I am in this argument with you, and not this fictional group of people I don't know, that means I don't have to care about other people who may or may not possess that information. Only you, and YOU don't have access to it.
Neither of us have access to this "PBE" which means it's just like the situation in where we don't have access to what the developers know.
That is certainly an interesting tactic to take in this discussion however. "Yeah well other people might know more stuff than we know, and you don't know what they know so that's why this is just a simple fix, even though I don't know what they know either."
But suppose you are right and there is a PBE that has been balanced for a month and just hasn't been pushed to live yet. That doesn't mean anything aside from there being some thing preventing them from pushing it through. Which ends up back at the developers again and our speculations as to why it can or cannot be pushed to live.
I don't stream anymore for a reason. Because live sucks. And live has sucked for the past 2 months.
Yay for you? O.o That's great and all but really has nothing to do with anything we were discussing. I'm sorry you feel that way.
You are missing the point...
Never mind, you will find out on your own in the late patch in July.
Best thing you've said yet
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I can actually counter your "we don't know the details, data etc."
There may be a "PBE" like environment for MWO. And that said environment may have been balanced for the last ~month now. If this was...to be true and infact a real thing, and the change just might be a heat increase to PPC's which balanced this "PBE". Then why is it not on live if it was literally a simple fix? Just as WE ALL have theorized and concluded would have been the logical thing to quickly, and efficiently address even as if a temporary measure. They...still...don't...do...it.
At that point, it's safe to assume PGI's balance system for live is bad and needs to be re-hauled, which i stated initially pages back.
Of course, You have no way of telling if this is true or not. But just because YOU are missing information and details does not mean everyone is.
Yes but being that I am in this argument with you, and not this fictional group of people I don't know, that means I don't have to care about other people who may or may not possess that information. Only you, and YOU don't have access to it.
Neither of us have access to this "PBE" which means it's just like the situation in where we don't have access to what the developers know.
That is certainly an interesting tactic to take in this discussion however. "Yeah well other people might know more stuff than we know, and you don't know what they know so that's why this is just a simple fix, even though I don't know what they know either."
But suppose you are right and there is a PBE that has been balanced for a month and just hasn't been pushed to live yet. That doesn't mean anything aside from there being some thing preventing them from pushing it through. Which ends up back at the developers again and our speculations as to why it can or cannot be pushed to live.
I don't stream anymore for a reason. Because live sucks. And live has sucked for the past 2 months.
Yay for you? O.o That's great and all but really has nothing to do with anything we were discussing. I'm sorry you feel that way.
You are missing the point...
Never mind, you will find out on your own in the late patch in July.
Best thing you've said yet
That's when they open the "PBE" to the public. So you can see for yourself.
Yeezus... to think that out of all things freaking Battletech would get me out of lurking! this shit was the balls when I was kid. While im trying to get into this I'll spam your nice little topic for a bit. Are there any Euro guys n gals with the oosik irregulars?
This snarky bickering is getting old and is making this thread a shit pile. Can we fucking give it a rest already??? I dont want to have to skim pages upon pages of useless horse shit anymore.
usually we are online in the evenings in america. so that'd be like 9pm to midnight for the euros.
There are some that game in the mornings as well. I dunno, just hop on and see if anybody is about.
Yeezus... to think that out of all things freaking Battletech would get me out of lurking! this shit was the balls when I was kid. While im trying to get into this I'll spam your nice little topic for a bit. Are there any Euro guys n gals with the oosik irregulars?
Myself (Marderschaden), Pablocampy and Kashaar are all euro sorts. Altmann too, I think, and some others.
This snarky bickering is getting old and is making this thread a shit pile. Can we fucking give it a rest already??? I dont want to have to skim pages upon pages of useless horse shit anymore.
If every time there is something not everyone agrees on and they decide to share their viewpoints you have a problem with it?
I could say the same for "look at this amazing camo i made!", yeah it's a great looking mech, but it gets "old" after seeing the same shit every time a new camo or color comes out. I don't complain about it though because most people here do enjoy seeing that stuff.
Or people posting pictures of shit builds where they get 800 damage in ONE game out of like 20 games where they did 150 damage? Yeah, that build sure is great...
I don't complain about that because fuck, I do it to every now and then. Hell, in this meta, doing more damage then a PPC boat is reward worthy, provided you are not a boat yourself. Let people enjoy the game they just dominated and share it with the world.
Don't get me wrong, i'm sure some of those builds are great, but posting the best picture doing 900 damage out of 20 games and claiming that the build is great does not prove the build is great. It's called getting lucky.
Point is, we don't all agree or like what goes on during certain pages or threads. But a forum is a place to discuss things, all kinds of things, things we like...and sometimes things we don't like.
If you are specifically talking about the debate between me and Delph it is because I cannot flat out say what I want to say, for reasons i cannot say (duh). Once the 2nd patch in July comes (HINT HINT) then everything will be out in the open. And all the errors PGI made in the past will become painfully obvious, or at least more obvious then it is now (to most anyway).
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To be clear, i'm not calling anyone out. Or trying to offend anyone. I'm just simply trying to say that sometimes people talk about things other people don't like. That's it.
Bill, people understood you were in the PBE pages ago when you tried to be be oh so clever about it.
That doesn't change anything. It's very obvious you are fed up with the game, which is unfortunate for you. It sounds like you really do need this break you are taking because you are taking this way too seriously.
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This snarky bickering is getting old and is making this thread a shit pile. Can we fucking give it a rest already??? I dont want to have to skim pages upon pages of useless horse shit anymore.
If every time there is something not everyone agrees on and they decide to share their viewpoints you have a problem with it?
I could say the same for "look at this amazing camo i made!", yeah it's a great looking mech, but it gets "old" after seeing the same shit every time a new camo or color comes out. I don't complain about it though because most people here do enjoy seeing that stuff.
Or people posting pictures of shit builds where they get 800 damage in ONE game out of like 20 games where they did 150 damage? Yeah, that build sure is great...
I don't complain about that because fuck, I do it to every now and then. Hell, in this meta, doing more damage then a PPC boat is reword worthy, provided you are not a boat yourself. Let people enjoy the game they just dominated and share it with the world.
Don't get me wrong, i'm sure some of those builds are great, but posting the best picture doing 900 damage out of 20 games and claiming that the build is great does not prove the build is great. It's called getting lucky.
Point is, we don't all agree or like what goes on during certain pages or threads. But a forum is a place to discuss things, all kinds of things, things we like...and sometimes things we don't like.
If you are specifically talking about the debate between me and Delph it is because I cannot flat out say what I want to say, for reasons i cannot say (duh). Once the 2nd patch in July comes (HINT HINT) then everything will be out in the open. And all the errors PGI made in the past will become painfully obvious, or at least more obvious then it is now (to most anyway).
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To be clear, i'm not calling anyone out. Or trying to offend anyone. I'm just simply trying to say that sometimes people talk about things other people don't like. That's it.
I think he's talking about arguing about the same point without either party saying anything new for 20 posts and making ridiculously long quote tree.
Also catty comments about a person's ELO. Those are usually uncalled for.
I had to catch up...I went to that thing called sleep or actually had to do work at...work, sorry. The quote system I need to work on your right. I'm not familiar with this quote system.
The ELO tidbit is a personal opinion that is split among multiple gaming communities. It's a competitive mentality, and I tend to treat the majority of games I play as competitive. That is another entire can of worms.
Again, sorry about the whole sleep...work thing. I'll try not to "bring up the dead" anymore.
If you get even a half dozen replies I'll be amazed.
Yeah.
If it doesn't have to do with calling the devs liars/cheats, whining about alpha strikes, or wanting Elo public so that people can be even meaner to each other then it doesn't get much attention.
This snarky bickering is getting old and is making this thread a shit pile. Can we fucking give it a rest already??? I dont want to have to skim pages upon pages of useless horse shit anymore.
If every time there is something not everyone agrees on and they decide to share their viewpoints you have a problem with it?
I could say the same for "look at this amazing camo i made!", yeah it's a great looking mech, but it gets "old" after seeing the same shit every time a new camo or color comes out. I don't complain about it though because most people here do enjoy seeing that stuff.
Or people posting pictures of shit builds where they get 800 damage in ONE game out of like 20 games where they did 150 damage? Yeah, that build sure is great...
I don't complain about that because fuck, I do it to every now and then. Hell, in this meta, doing more damage then a PPC boat is reward worthy, provided you are not a boat yourself. Let people enjoy the game they just dominated and share it with the world.
Don't get me wrong, i'm sure some of those builds are great, but posting the best picture doing 900 damage out of 20 games and claiming that the build is great does not prove the build is great. It's called getting lucky.
Point is, we don't all agree or like what goes on during certain pages or threads. But a forum is a place to discuss things, all kinds of things, things we like...and sometimes things we don't like.
If you are specifically talking about the debate between me and Delph it is because I cannot flat out say what I want to say, for reasons i cannot say (duh). Once the 2nd patch in July comes (HINT HINT) then everything will be out in the open. And all the errors PGI made in the past will become painfully obvious, or at least more obvious then it is now (to most anyway).
Edit-
To be clear, i'm not calling anyone out. Or trying to offend anyone. I'm just simply trying to say that sometimes people talk about things other people don't like. That's it.
I'll be completely honest, I'm not even sure what you two are even arguing at this point. It almost feels like you guys just need to get that daily quest out of the way. :P
This snarky bickering is getting old and is making this thread a shit pile. Can we fucking give it a rest already??? I dont want to have to skim pages upon pages of useless horse shit anymore.
If every time there is something not everyone agrees on and they decide to share their viewpoints you have a problem with it?
I could say the same for "look at this amazing camo i made!", yeah it's a great looking mech, but it gets "old" after seeing the same shit every time a new camo or color comes out. I don't complain about it though because most people here do enjoy seeing that stuff.
Or people posting pictures of shit builds where they get 800 damage in ONE game out of like 20 games where they did 150 damage? Yeah, that build sure is great...
I don't complain about that because fuck, I do it to every now and then. Hell, in this meta, doing more damage then a PPC boat is reword worthy, provided you are not a boat yourself. Let people enjoy the game they just dominated and share it with the world.
Don't get me wrong, i'm sure some of those builds are great, but posting the best picture doing 900 damage out of 20 games and claiming that the build is great does not prove the build is great. It's called getting lucky.
Point is, we don't all agree or like what goes on during certain pages or threads. But a forum is a place to discuss things, all kinds of things, things we like...and sometimes things we don't like.
If you are specifically talking about the debate between me and Delph it is because I cannot flat out say what I want to say, for reasons i cannot say (duh). Once the 2nd patch in July comes (HINT HINT) then everything will be out in the open. And all the errors PGI made in the past will become painfully obvious, or at least more obvious then it is now (to most anyway).
Edit-
To be clear, i'm not calling anyone out. Or trying to offend anyone. I'm just simply trying to say that sometimes people talk about things other people don't like. That's it.
I think he's talking about arguing about the same point without either party saying anything new for 20 posts and making ridiculously long quote tree.
Also catty comments about a person's ELO. Those are usually uncalled for.
This. Im all for open discussion about whatever in this thread, but certain discussions are like beating a dead horse and it degenerates into people bickering about things they will never agree on. Thats fine, people bicker. Its the condescending bull shit that irks me. Argue whatever, but people need to be a damn grownup about it and not an ass.
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I think my game's busted. Six straight matches on Tourmaline.
So, I'm thinking of expanding my roster of Jenners. Thinking either the standard F or the champion - I have the cbills to buy the standard, but then I won't have enough for DHS and ES...but on the other hand, if I get the champion, I won't have the MC stockpiled for Sarah's mech (which I still might not have, since they haven't announced anything about it).
I'm torn...
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This snarky bickering is getting old and is making this thread a shit pile. Can we fucking give it a rest already??? I dont want to have to skim pages upon pages of useless horse shit anymore.
If every time there is something not everyone agrees on and they decide to share their viewpoints you have a problem with it?
I could say the same for "look at this amazing camo i made!", yeah it's a great looking mech, but it gets "old" after seeing the same shit every time a new camo or color comes out. I don't complain about it though because most people here do enjoy seeing that stuff.
Or people posting pictures of shit builds where they get 800 damage in ONE game out of like 20 games where they did 150 damage? Yeah, that build sure is great...
I don't complain about that because fuck, I do it to every now and then. Hell, in this meta, doing more damage then a PPC boat is reward worthy, provided you are not a boat yourself. Let people enjoy the game they just dominated and share it with the world.
Don't get me wrong, i'm sure some of those builds are great, but posting the best picture doing 900 damage out of 20 games and claiming that the build is great does not prove the build is great. It's called getting lucky.
Point is, we don't all agree or like what goes on during certain pages or threads. But a forum is a place to discuss things, all kinds of things, things we like...and sometimes things we don't like.
If you are specifically talking about the debate between me and Delph it is because I cannot flat out say what I want to say, for reasons i cannot say (duh). Once the 2nd patch in July comes (HINT HINT) then everything will be out in the open. And all the errors PGI made in the past will become painfully obvious, or at least more obvious then it is now (to most anyway).
Edit-
To be clear, i'm not calling anyone out. Or trying to offend anyone. I'm just simply trying to say that sometimes people talk about things other people don't like. That's it.
I'll be completely honest, I'm not even sure what you two are even arguing at this point. It almost feels like you guys just need to get that daily quest out of the way. :P
It's like that Cheers scene with the Sam and Diane screaming match, right before the part where they slap each other and make out...
...except we're in a comic book shop and everyone looks like Norm.
It almost feels like you guys just need to get that daily quest out of the way. :P
:winky:
Also, what the shit is PBE? Peanut Butter and Eclairs?
Public Beta Environment. It's where they have a large base of players they can test stuff with before pushing it to the live client. Kind of an intermediary between in house testing and live client.
However just because it's on PBE does not mean it is destined for Live. It's just a larger test environment.
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If only my will could be channeled directly into my DGN-FLAME. The power to wipe away ppc boaters...
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So get your legitimate or snarky questions in there for the guys to answer.
edit** you've given me another reason to wish that collision would get back into this game.
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You are missing the point...
Never mind, you will find out on your own in the late patch in July.
Best thing you've said yet
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That's when they open the "PBE" to the public. So you can see for yourself.
Until then, enjoy la la land.
usually we are online in the evenings in america. so that'd be like 9pm to midnight for the euros.
There are some that game in the mornings as well. I dunno, just hop on and see if anybody is about.
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If every time there is something not everyone agrees on and they decide to share their viewpoints you have a problem with it?
I could say the same for "look at this amazing camo i made!", yeah it's a great looking mech, but it gets "old" after seeing the same shit every time a new camo or color comes out. I don't complain about it though because most people here do enjoy seeing that stuff.
Or people posting pictures of shit builds where they get 800 damage in ONE game out of like 20 games where they did 150 damage? Yeah, that build sure is great...
I don't complain about that because fuck, I do it to every now and then. Hell, in this meta, doing more damage then a PPC boat is reward worthy, provided you are not a boat yourself. Let people enjoy the game they just dominated and share it with the world.
Don't get me wrong, i'm sure some of those builds are great, but posting the best picture doing 900 damage out of 20 games and claiming that the build is great does not prove the build is great. It's called getting lucky.
Point is, we don't all agree or like what goes on during certain pages or threads. But a forum is a place to discuss things, all kinds of things, things we like...and sometimes things we don't like.
If you are specifically talking about the debate between me and Delph it is because I cannot flat out say what I want to say, for reasons i cannot say (duh). Once the 2nd patch in July comes (HINT HINT) then everything will be out in the open. And all the errors PGI made in the past will become painfully obvious, or at least more obvious then it is now (to most anyway).
Edit-
To be clear, i'm not calling anyone out. Or trying to offend anyone. I'm just simply trying to say that sometimes people talk about things other people don't like. That's it.
That doesn't change anything. It's very obvious you are fed up with the game, which is unfortunate for you. It sounds like you really do need this break you are taking because you are taking this way too seriously.
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I think he's talking about arguing about the same point without either party saying anything new for 20 posts and making ridiculously long quote tree.
Also catty comments about a person's ELO. Those are usually uncalled for.
He's an example of what the thread's been like:
I am basically a genius.
The ELO tidbit is a personal opinion that is split among multiple gaming communities. It's a competitive mentality, and I tend to treat the majority of games I play as competitive. That is another entire can of worms.
Again, sorry about the whole sleep...work thing. I'll try not to "bring up the dead" anymore.
If you get even a half dozen replies I'll be amazed.
If it doesn't have to do with calling the devs liars/cheats, whining about alpha strikes, or wanting Elo public so that people can be even meaner to each other then it doesn't get much attention.
I'll be completely honest, I'm not even sure what you two are even arguing at this point. It almost feels like you guys just need to get that daily quest out of the way. :P
This. Im all for open discussion about whatever in this thread, but certain discussions are like beating a dead horse and it degenerates into people bickering about things they will never agree on. Thats fine, people bicker. Its the condescending bull shit that irks me. Argue whatever, but people need to be a damn grownup about it and not an ass.
Nah. Matches are decided server side. Just a run of luck.
I'm torn...
I prefer to believe in all the Matchmaker conspiracy theories. It is, after all, a soulless bastard.
It's like that Cheers scene with the Sam and Diane screaming match, right before the part where they slap each other and make out...
I REALLY wish the match I posted from the other day with the 127 score would show up again...
:winky:
Also, what the shit is PBE? Peanut Butter and Eclairs?
Public Beta Environment. It's where they have a large base of players they can test stuff with before pushing it to the live client. Kind of an intermediary between in house testing and live client.
However just because it's on PBE does not mean it is destined for Live. It's just a larger test environment.
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