I wouldnt be surprised if you didnt see 1 time codes coming with 60$ games this gen. And no code no game, not online pass or project 10$.
I dunno. EA said it was completely the wrong direction. You KNOW that was for profit reasons. I think online passes will be dropped in favor of more pay-to-continue-paying games like Dead Space 3, Mass Effect 3, Assassin's Creed 3, etc.
I don't think we'll see project $10 come back, but I'm certain we'll see a large number of games claiming that they need to be online at all times to work as intended (like Forza, or the Sims I guess).
I'm not sure about that. The twin backlashes of SimCity and the Xbone reveal might keep video game companies from doing that unless they have a VERY good reason. Well, at least for a while.
I wouldnt be surprised if you didnt see 1 time codes coming with 60$ games this gen. And no code no game, not online pass or project 10$.
I dunno. EA said it was completely the wrong direction. You KNOW that was for profit reasons. I think online passes will be dropped in favor of more pay-to-continue-paying games like Dead Space 3, Mass Effect 3, Assassin's Creed 3, etc.
I don't think we'll see project $10 come back, but I'm certain we'll see a large number of games claiming that they need to be online at all times to work as intended (like Forza, or the Sims I guess).
I'm not sure about that. The twin backlashes of SimCity and the Xbone reveal might keep video game companies from doing that unless they have a VERY good reason. Well, at least for a while.
The very good reason will be the awesome power of my butt the cloud.
I guess it's not that surprising, but the XBox One "Game DVR" functionality is confirmed to be locked behind the Live Gold paywall. I'm sure we can expect Netflix and the TV functionality to require Gold as well
I honestly thought (stupidly) they'd try to get more features out there for everyone and just maybe push Gold as more the multiplayer and exclusive deals/access service this time around. Fool me once...
Why would you think they'd take stuff out from behind the paywall?
It's been working fine for them with the 360.
Hence the "(stupidly)" in my post.
As someone mentioned above, we didn't really mind so much when they kept ADDING functionality and services to our Gold service, but I thought maybe this go-around they'd really push for all the multimedia stuff that's already free on hundreds of other devices to just be useable without a Gold sub. I should have known better.
"Input One" my ass, I have a 60 dollar blu-ray player on that input that can already do Netflix and Hulu and Amazon Video all without a subscription.
It's been working fine for them, so they won't change it. When it stops working, they will.
I wouldnt be surprised if you didnt see 1 time codes coming with 60$ games this gen. And no code no game, not online pass or project 10$.
I dunno. EA said it was completely the wrong direction. You KNOW that was for profit reasons. I think online passes will be dropped in favor of more pay-to-continue-paying games like Dead Space 3, Mass Effect 3, Assassin's Creed 3, etc.
I don't think we'll see project $10 come back, but I'm certain we'll see a large number of games claiming that they need to be online at all times to work as intended (like Forza, or the Sims I guess).
I'm not sure about that. The twin backlashes of SimCity and the Xbone reveal might keep video game companies from doing that unless they have a VERY good reason. Well, at least for a while.
The very good reason will be the awesome power of my butt the cloud.
HackYourConsole.com. Heh. May as well be SueThisWebsite.com.
I have to disagree - it's my hardware, I bought it. Whether I want to mod it, pay someone to mod it, paint the case with some bitchin' flames, or fire it into the sun is none of Nintendo's damn business. It's mine now, assholes.
That's not to say piracy is okay, just that this is (yet another) instance of my rights as a paying customer being shredded because of 'OMG PIRACY!' handwringing.
Hmm. Yeah. I dunno, man. I don't mind paying for a gold subscription, but I also sometimes go for six months without a gold subscription because there's nothing I need to play online.
If the XBONE is supposed to be a critical component of my entertainment center, they'd better not make it stop working if I don't pay my multiplayer fees. Netflix, amazon streaming, that shit I can always go around the xbox for. But if I'm going to completely adjust HOW I view tv, so that the Xbone capabilities are what I WANT, it needs to work for the tv shit whether I'm subscribing or not.
HackYourConsole.com. Heh. May as well be SueThisWebsite.com.
I have to disagree - it's my hardware, I bought it. Whether I want to mod it, pay someone to mod it, paint the case with some bitchin' flames, or fire it into the sun is none of Nintendo's damn business. It's mine now, assholes.
That's not to say piracy is okay, just that this is (yet another) instance of my rights as a paying customer being shredded because of 'OMG PIRACY!' handwringing.
Well, in this case they're not coming after you for modding your console. They're going after the website that sells pirated versions of their shit.
HackYourConsole.com. Heh. May as well be SueThisWebsite.com.
I have to disagree - it's my hardware, I bought it. Whether I want to mod it, pay someone to mod it, paint the case with some bitchin' flames, or fire it into the sun is none of Nintendo's damn business. It's mine now, assholes.
That's not to say piracy is okay, just that this is (yet another) instance of my rights as a paying customer being shredded because of 'OMG PIRACY!' handwringing.
Well, in this case they're not coming after you for modding your console. They're going after the website that sells pirated versions of their shit.
Yeah, there's really no way to pretend R4 carts are for anything except piracy.
HackYourConsole.com. Heh. May as well be SueThisWebsite.com.
I have to disagree - it's my hardware, I bought it. Whether I want to mod it, pay someone to mod it, paint the case with some bitchin' flames, or fire it into the sun is none of Nintendo's damn business. It's mine now, assholes.
That's not to say piracy is okay, just that this is (yet another) instance of my rights as a paying customer being shredded because of 'OMG PIRACY!' handwringing.
Well, in this case they're not coming after you for modding your console. They're going after the website that sells pirated versions of their shit.
Yeah, there's really no way to pretend R4 carts are for anything except piracy.
Also: Patching and playing fan-translated games.
Also: Multiple save-slots.
HackYourConsole.com. Heh. May as well be SueThisWebsite.com.
I have to disagree - it's my hardware, I bought it. Whether I want to mod it, pay someone to mod it, paint the case with some bitchin' flames, or fire it into the sun is none of Nintendo's damn business. It's mine now, assholes.
That's not to say piracy is okay, just that this is (yet another) instance of my rights as a paying customer being shredded because of 'OMG PIRACY!' handwringing.
Well, in this case they're not coming after you for modding your console. They're going after the website that sells pirated versions of their shit.
The article says that, but it seems kind of unlikely that a US company would really be dumb enough to set up an online storefront to openly sell pirated ROMs. I'd hazard it's probably just the cartridges and Wii modding mentioned in the article.
Regardless of whether they're used to infringe copyright or not, they're still in violation of DMCA and Nintendo is within rights to try to stamp them out.
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HackYourConsole.com. Heh. May as well be SueThisWebsite.com.
I have to disagree - it's my hardware, I bought it. Whether I want to mod it, pay someone to mod it, paint the case with some bitchin' flames, or fire it into the sun is none of Nintendo's damn business. It's mine now, assholes.
That's not to say piracy is okay, just that this is (yet another) instance of my rights as a paying customer being shredded because of 'OMG PIRACY!' handwringing.
That's fine if you want to do it.
Unfortunately the website in question is clearly doing more than that.
I gotta wonder how many sales that site has gotten today alone just from the news. I had absolutely no clue that they had R4 carts available for 3DS before I read the story.
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I gotta wonder how many sales that site has gotten today alone just from the news. I had absolutely no clue that they had R4 carts available for 3DS before I read the story.
I thought Nintendo crushed the manufacturer of those fucking things years ago.
There aren't any R4 cards that actually work on 3DS games, just ones that've been produced to use the 3DS cart slot instead of the NDS cart slot. It loses NDS compatibility but gains compatibility for larger capacity SDHC cards and is able to use more memory on homebrew.
I gotta wonder how many sales that site has gotten today alone just from the news. I had absolutely no clue that they had R4 carts available for 3DS before I read the story.
I thought Nintendo crushed the manufacturer of those fucking things years ago.
It's right on the site for sale right now. 80 bucks plus shipping. Plays all 3DS roms, you just have to have a seperate microSD card for each 3DS rom that inserts into the cart.
It really can't be more blatant, and Nintendo can (and should) sue them, but in the years this takes to get to court how many are they going to sell?
So was the article description inaccurate? It sounded to me like they'd crack it for you (which is fine) and sell you devices that can be used for, among other things, running pirated games (which is also fine as far as I'm concerned), but I'm hearing they actually sell illegal ROMs?
That's a pretty big difference. Selling something that could potentially be used for something illegal =/= selling stolen shit.
HackYourConsole.com. Heh. May as well be SueThisWebsite.com.
I have to disagree - it's my hardware, I bought it. Whether I want to mod it, pay someone to mod it, paint the case with some bitchin' flames, or fire it into the sun is none of Nintendo's damn business. It's mine now, assholes.
That's not to say piracy is okay, just that this is (yet another) instance of my rights as a paying customer being shredded because of 'OMG PIRACY!' handwringing.
Well, in this case they're not coming after you for modding your console. They're going after the website that sells pirated versions of their shit.
The article says that, but it seems kind of unlikely that a US company would really be dumb enough to set up an online storefront to openly sell pirated ROMs. I'd hazard it's probably just the cartridges and Wii modding mentioned in the article.
I just make a quick check of the website. As you might have guessed, there are no signs of pirated games, just R4-like devices and storage.
Others can debate the merits of flashcarts, but when the article had a US hosted website with a good .com domain selling something blatantly illegal, it set off my BS detector. We may all know that people play "backed up" roms about as often as people make "backed up" audio CDs, but without more details, it seems like a case of a big corporation filing suit against a small company regardless of legality* to drive them out of business.
*To the best of my knowledge, modchips aren't illegal in the US, though I could easily be incorrect.
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Many, but not all, modchips could be considered in violation of DMCA -- it criminalizes the simple act of breaking/circumventing access controls to software.
There aren't any R4 cards that actually work on 3DS games, just ones that've been produced to use the 3DS cart slot instead of the NDS cart slot. It loses NDS compatibility but gains compatibility for larger capacity SDHC cards and is able to use more memory on homebrew.
Actually there is a 3DS ROM playing device now, announced recently. And that is all it does, there isn't any 3DS homebrew yet...it is solely for piracy.
The 3DS flash card doesn't support homebrew nor does it change regions. It does nothing but allow playing 3DS ROMs. Requiring one micro SD card per game will curtail piracy somewhst though, no more buying a flash card with 100 games on it.
It really can't be more blatant, and Nintendo can (and should) sue them, but in the years this takes to get to court how many are they going to sell?
Isn't that what temporary injunctions are for?
I guess, but just by judging from the website's quality this is some rinky dink operation anyways. Those boxes of flash-carts are going to be sold somewhere whether it's over a website, a physical location. or a swap meet. I mean search on Craigs List sometime for a DS flashcart, there's dozens for sale listed every single day.
Nintendo is wasting their time and money fighting this crap (although the principle is just), this stuff is so niche anymore why even bother acknowledging it publicly?
Anyone who thinks that Microsoft isn't going to slowly crawl their way back to what they announced before everyone freaked out is kidding themselves.
They'll just do it very slowly, and call it (or blame it on) something else.
Well, they can't roll back the always online and the allowing of used games, but I have a feeling we're gonna see a lot of games requiring online (quite a few of the next gen games we've seen already do) and it wouldn't surprise me if online passes made a return as well.
So remind me, what are the online only games that have been on consoles so far? Final Fantasy MMOs, a few online shooters (Shadowrun and Warhawk, anything bigger?). Has anything of the sort been a success in the online stores of the PS3 or 360?
Seems to me that in the wake of MS having to nix their online plans, online only is a risky business model on consoles. Especially if you want to sell your game for $60. Can it really compete with free to play games on tablets and PCs?
(Please do not gift. My game bank is already full.)
Anyone who thinks that Microsoft isn't going to slowly crawl their way back to what they announced before everyone freaked out is kidding themselves.
They'll just do it very slowly, and call it (or blame it on) something else.
Well, they can't roll back the always online and the allowing of used games, but I have a feeling we're gonna see a lot of games requiring online (quite a few of the next gen games we've seen already do) and it wouldn't surprise me if online passes made a return as well.
So remind me, what are the online only games that have been on consoles so far? Final Fantasy MMOs, a few online shooters (Shadowrun and Warhawk, anything bigger?). Has anything of the sort been a success in the online stores of the PS3 or 360?
Seems to me that in the wake of MS having to nix their online plans, online only is a risky business model on consoles. Especially if you want to sell your game for $60. Can it really compete with free to play games on tablets and PCs?
ok, but look at all the games that are due out within the first few months of the next gen launching that are built around online play. Destiny, TitanFall, The Division, The Crew, the new Need For Speed. and that's just off the top of my head.
What's even the point of a 3DS flashcart that requires a separate memory card per game? Why would a pirate even get that, especially with it not breaking the region lock barrier. There's like.... literally no point.
And you have to stay at firmware 4.5, and they recommend you not use any online features on the game. It's really quite poor, and I hope that means it won't sell well.
edit: To give an idea, to use the Streetpass Relay Points you need to be at firmware 6.2 or higher. I don't know if 6.2 is the current one, but I don't know who would still have a 3DS with firmware 4.5 on it.
What's even the point of a 3DS flashcart that requires a separate memory card per game? Why would a pirate even get that, especially with it not breaking the region lock barrier. There's like.... literally no point.
Because a micro SD is cheaper than a game. It is literally nothing but a piracy system, and a pretty shitty one.
Anyone who thinks that Microsoft isn't going to slowly crawl their way back to what they announced before everyone freaked out is kidding themselves.
They'll just do it very slowly, and call it (or blame it on) something else.
Well, they can't roll back the always online and the allowing of used games, but I have a feeling we're gonna see a lot of games requiring online (quite a few of the next gen games we've seen already do) and it wouldn't surprise me if online passes made a return as well.
So remind me, what are the online only games that have been on consoles so far? Final Fantasy MMOs, a few online shooters (Shadowrun and Warhawk, anything bigger?). Has anything of the sort been a success in the online stores of the PS3 or 360?
There was MAG from earlier in the PS3's life, and there's also the new EVE-based FPS MMO.
MAG was the shit. Sure, it wasn't very well balanced at all. But they did so many things right.
Huge maps with 64-256 people. Tactical-based acquisition with objectives and a moving battle line instead arcady shit like deathmatch or capture the flag. Friendly Fire being 100% always on for everything and no aim-assist. Movement speed based upon armor type. Spec-based talents like a MMO instead of having to grind weapons until they were decent. Loadouts balanced by a value per weapon/attachment/piece of gear with a hard cap so you can't have everything at once with more versatile weapons more costly than others. Squad + Proximity based voice chat, but with the ability to hear up close enemy conversation like in real life (and use it to home in and sneak up on the other team).
Anyone who thinks that Microsoft isn't going to slowly crawl their way back to what they announced before everyone freaked out is kidding themselves.
They'll just do it very slowly, and call it (or blame it on) something else.
Really, the only surprise for me (and possibly MS, in that they may have been counting on it) was that Sony didn't do the same. But I guess that's how you win Prisoner's Dilemma and/or console generations.
Top-seller: Disney Magic Castle: My Happy Life – 119,154
Nintendo 3DS sales: 17,747 | Total sales: 8,467,477
Nintendo 3DS XL sales: 57,940 | Total sales: 3,522,996
PlayStation Vita sales: 17,702 | Total sales: 1,759,489
Wii U sales: 10,038 | Total sales: 1,026,429
Last week’s best-seller in Japan was a game that slipped under everyone’s radar—Disney Magic Castle: My Happy Life by Namco Bandai. This is a game where you play as a Mii and get to interact with a number of Disney characters. Check out the trailer below for an idea of what it’s like:
Meanwhile, the previous week’s best-seller, Ace Attorney: Dual Destinies, has reached the very impressive milestone of 300,000 copies sold by its second week—and that’s actual copies sold, not just shipped to retailers. It should be interesting to compare sales with those of Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney at the end of the year.
Finally, this week’s other major release, Killer is Dead, the latest game from Grasshopper’s Suda51, didn’t fare nearly as well. The game sold a meagre 17,709 copies on PlayStation 3—that’s a lower debut than Lollipop Chainsaw and even No More Heroes: Heroes’ Paradise.
Ima blame it on Square fans needing their Kingdom Hearts fix. :bz
(1:24 There's a fucking combat system in the game! Damned if that brief boss fight doesn't look like a heartless.)
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I can't wait to see how Disney Infinity sells in Japan.
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LewieP just brought this to my attention. The XB1 puts otherwise free features behind a pay wall. You need a Gold subscription to use Skype and to record your gameplay on your hardware you paid $500 for. http://www.xbox.com/en-US/Live#features
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LewieP just brought this to my attention. The XB1 puts otherwise free features behind a pay wall. You need a Gold subscription to use Skype and to record your gameplay on your hardware you paid $500 for. http://www.xbox.com/en-US/Live#features
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I'm not sure about that. The twin backlashes of SimCity and the Xbone reveal might keep video game companies from doing that unless they have a VERY good reason. Well, at least for a while.
The very good reason will be the awesome power of my butt the cloud.
It's been working fine for them, so they won't change it. When it stops working, they will.
Ah, that never gets old. :P
That's not to say piracy is okay, just that this is (yet another) instance of my rights as a paying customer being shredded because of 'OMG PIRACY!' handwringing.
If the XBONE is supposed to be a critical component of my entertainment center, they'd better not make it stop working if I don't pay my multiplayer fees. Netflix, amazon streaming, that shit I can always go around the xbox for. But if I'm going to completely adjust HOW I view tv, so that the Xbone capabilities are what I WANT, it needs to work for the tv shit whether I'm subscribing or not.
Well, in this case they're not coming after you for modding your console. They're going after the website that sells pirated versions of their shit.
Yeah, there's really no way to pretend R4 carts are for anything except piracy.
Also: Patching and playing fan-translated games.
Also: Multiple save-slots.
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The article says that, but it seems kind of unlikely that a US company would really be dumb enough to set up an online storefront to openly sell pirated ROMs. I'd hazard it's probably just the cartridges and Wii modding mentioned in the article.
That's fine if you want to do it.
Unfortunately the website in question is clearly doing more than that.
I thought Nintendo crushed the manufacturer of those fucking things years ago.
It's right on the site for sale right now. 80 bucks plus shipping. Plays all 3DS roms, you just have to have a seperate microSD card for each 3DS rom that inserts into the cart.
It really can't be more blatant, and Nintendo can (and should) sue them, but in the years this takes to get to court how many are they going to sell?
That's a pretty big difference. Selling something that could potentially be used for something illegal =/= selling stolen shit.
I just make a quick check of the website. As you might have guessed, there are no signs of pirated games, just R4-like devices and storage.
Others can debate the merits of flashcarts, but when the article had a US hosted website with a good .com domain selling something blatantly illegal, it set off my BS detector. We may all know that people play "backed up" roms about as often as people make "backed up" audio CDs, but without more details, it seems like a case of a big corporation filing suit against a small company regardless of legality* to drive them out of business.
*To the best of my knowledge, modchips aren't illegal in the US, though I could easily be incorrect.
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Isn't that what temporary injunctions are for?
Actually there is a 3DS ROM playing device now, announced recently. And that is all it does, there isn't any 3DS homebrew yet...it is solely for piracy.
I guess, but just by judging from the website's quality this is some rinky dink operation anyways. Those boxes of flash-carts are going to be sold somewhere whether it's over a website, a physical location. or a swap meet. I mean search on Craigs List sometime for a DS flashcart, there's dozens for sale listed every single day.
Nintendo is wasting their time and money fighting this crap (although the principle is just), this stuff is so niche anymore why even bother acknowledging it publicly?
So remind me, what are the online only games that have been on consoles so far? Final Fantasy MMOs, a few online shooters (Shadowrun and Warhawk, anything bigger?). Has anything of the sort been a success in the online stores of the PS3 or 360?
Seems to me that in the wake of MS having to nix their online plans, online only is a risky business model on consoles. Especially if you want to sell your game for $60. Can it really compete with free to play games on tablets and PCs?
(Please do not gift. My game bank is already full.)
ok, but look at all the games that are due out within the first few months of the next gen launching that are built around online play. Destiny, TitanFall, The Division, The Crew, the new Need For Speed. and that's just off the top of my head.
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edit: To give an idea, to use the Streetpass Relay Points you need to be at firmware 6.2 or higher. I don't know if 6.2 is the current one, but I don't know who would still have a 3DS with firmware 4.5 on it.
Because a micro SD is cheaper than a game. It is literally nothing but a piracy system, and a pretty shitty one.
There was MAG from earlier in the PS3's life, and there's also the new EVE-based FPS MMO.
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Huge maps with 64-256 people. Tactical-based acquisition with objectives and a moving battle line instead arcady shit like deathmatch or capture the flag. Friendly Fire being 100% always on for everything and no aim-assist. Movement speed based upon armor type. Spec-based talents like a MMO instead of having to grind weapons until they were decent. Loadouts balanced by a value per weapon/attachment/piece of gear with a hard cap so you can't have everything at once with more versatile weapons more costly than others. Squad + Proximity based voice chat, but with the ability to hear up close enemy conversation like in real life (and use it to home in and sneak up on the other team).
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Really, the only surprise for me (and possibly MS, in that they may have been counting on it) was that Sony didn't do the same. But I guess that's how you win Prisoner's Dilemma and/or console generations.
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Ima blame it on Square fans needing their Kingdom Hearts fix. :bz
(1:24 There's a fucking combat system in the game! Damned if that brief boss fight doesn't look like a heartless.)
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/Live#features
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