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[Computer Build Thread] - Haswell? More like Has...damnit, I had something for this...

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  • Magus`Magus` The fun has been DOUBLED! Registered User regular
  • GnomeTankGnomeTank What the what? Portland, OregonRegistered User regular
    Well it's 3.4ghz boost clock stock...I would say you should be able to get it to 3.8 with no problems at all, maybe even 4. Past 4ghz it may start to get dicey.

    Sagroth wrote: »
    Oh c'mon FyreWulff, no one's gonna pay to visit Uranus.
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  • Magus`Magus` The fun has been DOUBLED! Registered User regular
    Hrm ok. I forget how to stress test things.. is it still Prime95 or whatever for 24 hours?

    Also would a ~600mhz OC be noticeable enough to even bother?

  • FoomyFoomy Registered User regular
    Magus` wrote: »
    Hrm ok. I forget how to stress test things.. is it still Prime95 or whatever for 24 hours?

    Also would a ~600mhz OC be noticeable enough to even bother?

    IntelBurnTest Is what I prefer to testing, it puts more stress on a cpu then Prime95 will, provides better feedback, and you only need to run it for an hour or less.

    run the test in it and make sure all the results have the same calculated number, that ensures you have 0 instability, the readme on the page describes what it does.

    and ~600mhz can be noticible, depending on what your doing, and whether your cpu or gpu throttled.

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  • Magus`Magus` The fun has been DOUBLED! Registered User regular
    Cool, cool. Also I'm getting a 760 GTX so I have no idea where the bottleneck would be. :P

  • GnomeTankGnomeTank What the what? Portland, OregonRegistered User regular
    I use both because I'm paranoid...but if your CPU gets through 30-60 minutes of IBT and doesn't melt or crash, you're probably good. I usually do the "back it down a step" technique where I find the stability tipping point using IBT, then set my OC at one step below that. So if I find I'm stable at 42x multiplier, but start to lose it at 43x, I'll set it to 41x to give myself breathing room.

    Sagroth wrote: »
    Oh c'mon FyreWulff, no one's gonna pay to visit Uranus.
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  • Magus`Magus` The fun has been DOUBLED! Registered User regular
    Is OC'ing just switching the multiplier now or is there still the whole voltage change and blah blah? (Once again it's been years)

  • GnomeTankGnomeTank What the what? Portland, OregonRegistered User regular
    edited August 2013
    You have to worry about voltage if you get above a certain multiplier (stock voltage only goes so high), but you don't have to worry about your FSB and FSB ratios and all that anymore. Provided you have a K series CPU, you can just bump the multiplier.

    2nd, 3rd and 4th generation Core CPU's do pretty well on stock volts though. I have my i5-2500k at 4ghz with out touching the voltage, and that's a light OC. I could probably get 4.1 or 4.2, but see my comment about stepping down the OC for stability.

    GnomeTank on
    Sagroth wrote: »
    Oh c'mon FyreWulff, no one's gonna pay to visit Uranus.
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  • DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    For most reasonable overclocks, a K-series CPU and tweaking the multiplier will get you wherever you need to go.

  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    New build. I got rid of my old huge tower system cause it was just way too bulky and I wasn't using it, but I find myself wanting something for FFXIV. How does this look?

    http://amzn.com/w/OVG402EPUU8Q

    I was thinking of plugging it into my 40" Sony Bravia LCD so I could play from the couch.

  • GaslightGaslight Registered User regular
    Get a GTX760 instead of that GPU. The 760 is basically everything the 670 is but you'll pay about $100 less.

    GnomeTank
  • GnomeTankGnomeTank What the what? Portland, OregonRegistered User regular
    edited August 2013
    I agree with your point, but last time I checked he already had a 670, or did at one point.

    GnomeTank on
    Sagroth wrote: »
    Oh c'mon FyreWulff, no one's gonna pay to visit Uranus.
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  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    I agree with your point, but last time I checked he already had a 670, or did at one point.

    It's all gone!

  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    Gaslight wrote: »
    Get a GTX760 instead of that GPU. The 760 is basically everything the 670 is but you'll pay about $100 less.

    760s get about 1,400 points lower on the FFXIV benchmark than comparable 670s.

    http://amzn.com/w/OVG402EPUU8Q

  • GnomeTankGnomeTank What the what? Portland, OregonRegistered User regular
    Probably a driver issue. The 760 is basically a 670 for less. If you're gonna spend 670 money just get a 770. And if the 770 is scoring lower than the 670 for FF14, then it's definitely a driver issue.

    Sagroth wrote: »
    Oh c'mon FyreWulff, no one's gonna pay to visit Uranus.
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  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    Thoughts on that motherboard and the case with power supply?

  • Big Red TieBig Red Tie beautiful clydesdale style feet too hot to trotRegistered User regular
    also a 760 will definitely play ff14 on max with 60 fps, so the benchmark score being lower doesn't mean much

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  • GnomeTankGnomeTank What the what? Portland, OregonRegistered User regular
    edited August 2013
    I mean, it's a bronze certified PSU, so it's only so good...but if you aren't overclocking and don't have a shitty power graph in your house, it should be fine. Any fluctuation on the main rail you won't notice in most use cases.

    The motherboard seems fine. Any Z87 from a reputable manufacturer should be perfectly fine if the feature set meets your needs.

    GnomeTank on
    Sagroth wrote: »
    Oh c'mon FyreWulff, no one's gonna pay to visit Uranus.
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  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    I mean, it's a bronze certified PSU, so it's only so good...but if you aren't overclocking and don't have a shitty power graph in your house, it should be fine. Any fluxations on the main rail you won't notice in most use cases.

    The motherboard seems fine. Any Z87 from a reputable manufacturer should be perfectly fine if the feature set meets your needs.

    I want the smallest form factor for the case I can get. If you can recommend a case with a better PSU, I'd appreciate it. But, I don't plan on overclocking, so...
    also a 760 will definitely play ff14 on max with 60 fps, so the benchmark score being lower doesn't mean much

    Yeah, I guess anything over 7k is just bonus on that benchmark.

  • GnomeTankGnomeTank What the what? Portland, OregonRegistered User regular
    Esh wrote: »
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    I mean, it's a bronze certified PSU, so it's only so good...but if you aren't overclocking and don't have a shitty power graph in your house, it should be fine. Any fluxations on the main rail you won't notice in most use cases.

    The motherboard seems fine. Any Z87 from a reputable manufacturer should be perfectly fine if the feature set meets your needs.

    I want the smallest form factor for the case I can get. If you can recommend a case with a better PSU, I'd appreciate it. But, I don't plan on overclocking, so...

    Should be fine then. Worst case you replace the PSU later.

    Sagroth wrote: »
    Oh c'mon FyreWulff, no one's gonna pay to visit Uranus.
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  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    Oh, this was the chart I meant to post earlier instead of the Wish List a second time...

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0Ao70YcZoNX_zdHpER085M1hXOW0yeFF5a3ZtQmI0TkE&toomany=true

  • GnomeTankGnomeTank What the what? Portland, OregonRegistered User regular
    That screams driver issues to me. New cards always need a few rounds of drivers to reach their maximum potential, especially on newer games.

    Sagroth wrote: »
    Oh c'mon FyreWulff, no one's gonna pay to visit Uranus.
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  • mightyjongyomightyjongyo Sour Crrm East Bay, CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    If you're not planning on sticking a 3.5" HDD in there you may consider upping the capacity of the SSD. It's worth not having to worry about running out of space (as unlikely as that may be).

  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited August 2013
    If you're not planning on sticking a 3.5" HDD in there you may consider upping the capacity of the SSD. It's worth not having to worry about running out of space (as unlikely as that may be).

    It'll be exclusively a gaming machine and I tend to not play more than 2-3 games at a time. I've got a MacBook Pro for other things (music/homework/etc...)/

    Oh, and how is that SSD quality wise? Reviews seem really solid, but if there's something else...

    Esh on
  • GaslightGaslight Registered User regular
    edited August 2013
    Maybe I oughta start a new thread for this, but what's a good PC gaming headset? It would primarily be used so I can finally properly join in the Oosik reindeer walrus games in MechWarrior online. I am not an audiophile, and my budget for this is $100 give or take at the most. I just want clear sound and mic and construction that will hold up - I had a cheap Logitech headset or two a while ago and they basically started to break in half.

    I was enamored of the Logitech G930, though, because WIRELESS! I hate having wires across my arm/lap/desk. But there are enough reviews complaining about it randomly turning off and shit to deter me. So I've been looking at SteelSeries headsets, because I have a SteelSeries and a SteelSeries keyboard now and I like my shit to match (I'm silly that way). Like maybe a Siberia or a 5H. But they have too many H-series and they like to reuse their names like 5HV2 and 5HV3 and keep old models that aren't available anymore on their website and I find it tiresome.

    Is there any really important difference between USB and 3.5mm jacks?

    I should mention that I am a 6'1" man with, I suppose, an average-sized cranium. I wear glasses, which I guess might matter. I'd rather have something with a headband I can adjust for fit. I am not super concerned with with circumaural versus supra-aural and noise-canceling capability as I tend to game in my room by myself late at night so there is neither outside noise to disturb me nor anyone around to be disturbed by my gaming sounds.

    Gaslight on
  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    Gaslight wrote: »
    Maybe I oughta start a new thread for this, but what's a good PC gaming headset? It would primarily be used so I can finally properly join in the Oosik reindeer walrus games in MechWarrior online. I am not an audiophile, and my budget for this is $100 give or take at the most. I just want clear sound and mic and construction that will hold up - I had a cheap Logitech headset or two a while ago and they basically started to break in half.

    I was enamored of the Logitech G930, though, because WIRELESS! I hate having wires across my arm/lap/desk. But there are enough reviews complaining about it randomly turning off and shit to deter me. So I've been looking at SteelSeries headsets, because I have a SteelSeries and a SteelSeries keyboard now and I like my shit to match (I'm silly that way). Like maybe a Siberia or a 5H. But they have too many H-series and they like to reuse their names like 5HV2 and 5HV3 and keep old models that aren't available anymore on their website and I find it tiresome.

    Is there any really important difference between USB and 3.5mm jacks?

    Sennheiser without a doubt. Are you really deadset on wireless though?

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  • GaslightGaslight Registered User regular
    edited August 2013
    Esh wrote: »
    Gaslight wrote: »
    Maybe I oughta start a new thread for this, but what's a good PC gaming headset? It would primarily be used so I can finally properly join in the Oosik reindeer walrus games in MechWarrior online. I am not an audiophile, and my budget for this is $100 give or take at the most. I just want clear sound and mic and construction that will hold up - I had a cheap Logitech headset or two a while ago and they basically started to break in half.

    I was enamored of the Logitech G930, though, because WIRELESS! I hate having wires across my arm/lap/desk. But there are enough reviews complaining about it randomly turning off and shit to deter me. So I've been looking at SteelSeries headsets, because I have a SteelSeries and a SteelSeries keyboard now and I like my shit to match (I'm silly that way). Like maybe a Siberia or a 5H. But they have too many H-series and they like to reuse their names like 5HV2 and 5HV3 and keep old models that aren't available anymore on their website and I find it tiresome.

    Is there any really important difference between USB and 3.5mm jacks?

    Sennheiser without a doubt. Are you really deadset on wireless though?

    No, the Logitech G930 was the only halfway-legit looking headset I even found and since I got scared off of that I'm pretty much resigned to wires. Thus the question about USB versus 3.5mm jacks.

    Looking at Sennheiser stuff on Newegg, it seems like there's a huge jump from their $50-60 stuff to sets WAY above my $100 budget. And of the two priced around $100, one is only a single-ear headset, and they both have cords only 3.3 feet long, which eyeballing the distance down to my tower right now is cutting things close.

    Gaslight on
  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    Gaslight wrote: »
    Esh wrote: »
    Gaslight wrote: »
    Maybe I oughta start a new thread for this, but what's a good PC gaming headset? It would primarily be used so I can finally properly join in the Oosik reindeer walrus games in MechWarrior online. I am not an audiophile, and my budget for this is $100 give or take at the most. I just want clear sound and mic and construction that will hold up - I had a cheap Logitech headset or two a while ago and they basically started to break in half.

    I was enamored of the Logitech G930, though, because WIRELESS! I hate having wires across my arm/lap/desk. But there are enough reviews complaining about it randomly turning off and shit to deter me. So I've been looking at SteelSeries headsets, because I have a SteelSeries and a SteelSeries keyboard now and I like my shit to match (I'm silly that way). Like maybe a Siberia or a 5H. But they have too many H-series and they like to reuse their names like 5HV2 and 5HV3 and keep old models that aren't available anymore on their website and I find it tiresome.

    Is there any really important difference between USB and 3.5mm jacks?

    Sennheiser without a doubt. Are you really deadset on wireless though?

    No, the Logitech G930 was the only halfway-legit looking headset I even found and since I got scared off of that I'm pretty much resigned to wires. Thus the question about USB versus 3.5mm jacks?

    Looking at Sennheiser stuff on Newegg, it seems like there's a huge jump from their $50-60 stuff to sets WAY above my $100 budget. And of the two priced around $100, one is only a single-ear headset, and they both have cords only 3.3 feet long, which eyeballing the distance down to my tower right now is cutting things close.

    http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-PC-310-Gaming-Headset/dp/B007UIX1QU/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1375413911&sr=8-6&keywords=sennheiser+headset

    10ft cord. If you have the jacks on the back of your computer for headset/mic, use those.

  • AlectharAlecthar Alan Shore We're not territorial about that sort of thing, are we?Registered User regular
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    That screams driver issues to me. New cards always need a few rounds of drivers to reach their maximum potential, especially on newer games.

    Even if drivers were the issue (which would surprise me, because nothing has changed about the architecture, process, or memory interface used in the 760 when compared to the 600 series cards) you wouldn't expect a GTX 760 to be as powerful as a GTX 670 because it isn't as powerful as a 670. Yes, the GTX 770 is basically a GTX 680 with more aggressive base and boost clocks. Not so for the 760. It's actually built on a GK104 chip with more Shaders/TMUs disabled than on the 670. It has a clockspeed advantage, which is why it's more competitive than one might otherwise expect.

    All that said, the 760 is the better value. The difference between the cards isn't terribly significant (though it would be more so if you were looking at roughly identical clockspeeds) and certainly not enough to justify the price premium on the 670. If things change there, it might be worth re-evaluating, but as it stands there's not enough value to justify paying that premium.

    On a totally unrelated note: Who has an Alan Shore avatar and is going to Gamescom? This guy! I'm freaking psyched.

  • mightyjongyomightyjongyo Sour Crrm East Bay, CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    Esh wrote: »
    If you're not planning on sticking a 3.5" HDD in there you may consider upping the capacity of the SSD. It's worth not having to worry about running out of space (as unlikely as that may be).

    It'll be exclusively a gaming machine and I tend to not play more than 2-3 games at a time. I've got a MacBook Pro for other things (music/homework/etc...)/

    Oh, and how is that SSD quality wise? Reviews seem really solid, but if there's something else...

    Oh. Yea 120 GB ought to be good then.

    The 840 is pretty solid. The next one up that people will recommend will be the 840 pro, but I don't think its so much better that you need to worry about it.

    Donovan Puppyfucker
  • Lindsay LohanLindsay Lohan Registered User regular
    Does anyone have experience overclocking a CPU? I've never done it - but I have a Q6600 @ 2.4Ghz that I understand can easily be overclocked. I don't have any massive cooling system, just a CPU fan and two side case fans blowing in on it, so I figured I could probably go to 3.0Ghz safely but wouldn't want to go too much more than that.

    Are there any good resources on doing this? A lot of Youtube clips show Bios options I don't have so I'm guessing I'll be updating that as well? Is it fairly easy to do this?

  • tsmvengytsmvengy Registered User regular
    Esh wrote: »
    If you're not planning on sticking a 3.5" HDD in there you may consider upping the capacity of the SSD. It's worth not having to worry about running out of space (as unlikely as that may be).

    It'll be exclusively a gaming machine and I tend to not play more than 2-3 games at a time. I've got a MacBook Pro for other things (music/homework/etc...)/

    Oh, and how is that SSD quality wise? Reviews seem really solid, but if there's something else...

    Honestly I would be tempted to find a cheap 500GB or 1TB HDD to throw in there - I have a 128GB SSD as well and sometimes I want to put games on the back burner but not have to download them all over again. Having that 500GB of space makes that possible. Between the OS install and wanting SOME free space you really have about 100GB of useful space and games are only getting bigger.

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  • GriswoldGriswold that's rough, buddyRegistered User regular
    edited August 2013
    Magus --

    My i7-4770k was only able to hit 4.3GHz (from 3.9GHz) at usable temps. Most owners can hit 4.4-4.5, with particularly good chips going to 4.7.

    I suspect the i5-4670k has a similar profile.

    Haswell is hot.

    EDIT: AIDA64 is the recommended stress test program for Haswell overclocking. Apparently Prime95 does not stress the full set of chipset instructions.

    Griswold on
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  • MugsleyMugsley DelawareRegistered User regular
    Gaslight wrote: »
    Esh wrote: »
    Gaslight wrote: »
    Maybe I oughta start a new thread for this, but what's a good PC gaming headset? It would primarily be used so I can finally properly join in the Oosik reindeer walrus games in MechWarrior online. I am not an audiophile, and my budget for this is $100 give or take at the most. I just want clear sound and mic and construction that will hold up - I had a cheap Logitech headset or two a while ago and they basically started to break in half.

    I was enamored of the Logitech G930, though, because WIRELESS! I hate having wires across my arm/lap/desk. But there are enough reviews complaining about it randomly turning off and shit to deter me. So I've been looking at SteelSeries headsets, because I have a SteelSeries and a SteelSeries keyboard now and I like my shit to match (I'm silly that way). Like maybe a Siberia or a 5H. But they have too many H-series and they like to reuse their names like 5HV2 and 5HV3 and keep old models that aren't available anymore on their website and I find it tiresome.

    Is there any really important difference between USB and 3.5mm jacks?

    Sennheiser without a doubt. Are you really deadset on wireless though?

    No, the Logitech G930 was the only halfway-legit looking headset I even found and since I got scared off of that I'm pretty much resigned to wires. Thus the question about USB versus 3.5mm jacks.

    Looking at Sennheiser stuff on Newegg, it seems like there's a huge jump from their $50-60 stuff to sets WAY above my $100 budget. And of the two priced around $100, one is only a single-ear headset, and they both have cords only 3.3 feet long, which eyeballing the distance down to my tower right now is cutting things close.

    I use a Sennheiser set at home (PC150 or 160; can't remember) and I use a SS 5HV2 when I'm on the road because it comes apart into 3 pieces and the mic hides inside the earcup. I use the 5H with its included USB sound card and I bought a Creative USB soundcard for my Sennheiser. I need one for the road because my MBP doesn't have a mic input jack. It's mostly personal preference with regards to USB and there's no super amazing sound quality improvement.

    I can attest to the build quality of both brands, so you will be happy either way you go. Both are extremely comfortable. My Sennheiser is probably 6 years old now; my 5H is around 4.

  • MugsleyMugsley DelawareRegistered User regular
    Esh wrote: »
    If you're not planning on sticking a 3.5" HDD in there you may consider upping the capacity of the SSD. It's worth not having to worry about running out of space (as unlikely as that may be).

    It'll be exclusively a gaming machine and I tend to not play more than 2-3 games at a time. I've got a MacBook Pro for other things (music/homework/etc...)/

    Oh, and how is that SSD quality wise? Reviews seem really solid, but if there's something else...

    I'm using two 840s (250GB and 500GB). They are performing perfectly for me. The price premium for the Pro isn't worth it for how I use my system.

    If you're willing to be patient and look at other retailers, you can find that SSD for $.60 per GB on sale periodically.

  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    tsmvengy wrote: »
    Esh wrote: »
    If you're not planning on sticking a 3.5" HDD in there you may consider upping the capacity of the SSD. It's worth not having to worry about running out of space (as unlikely as that may be).

    It'll be exclusively a gaming machine and I tend to not play more than 2-3 games at a time. I've got a MacBook Pro for other things (music/homework/etc...)/

    Oh, and how is that SSD quality wise? Reviews seem really solid, but if there's something else...

    Honestly I would be tempted to find a cheap 500GB or 1TB HDD to throw in there - I have a 128GB SSD as well and sometimes I want to put games on the back burner but not have to download them all over again. Having that 500GB of space makes that possible. Between the OS install and wanting SOME free space you really have about 100GB of useful space and games are only getting bigger.

    This is like build number ten that I'll have assembled. I really won't need the room. Trust me. I can just put aside the save files if necessary, but in 30 years of computer gaming I've never had to do that.

  • Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    Does anyone have experience overclocking a CPU? I've never done it - but I have a Q6600 @ 2.4Ghz that I understand can easily be overclocked. I don't have any massive cooling system, just a CPU fan and two side case fans blowing in on it, so I figured I could probably go to 3.0Ghz safely but wouldn't want to go too much more than that.

    Are there any good resources on doing this? A lot of Youtube clips show Bios options I don't have so I'm guessing I'll be updating that as well? Is it fairly easy to do this?

    Q6600s overclock like demons if you've got a great heatsink and a quality motherboard with decent voltage control circuitry on it. Which model motherboard do you have?

  • GaslightGaslight Registered User regular
    edited August 2013
    Mugsley wrote: »
    Gaslight wrote: »
    Esh wrote: »
    Gaslight wrote: »
    Maybe I oughta start a new thread for this, but what's a good PC gaming headset? It would primarily be used so I can finally properly join in the Oosik reindeer walrus games in MechWarrior online. I am not an audiophile, and my budget for this is $100 give or take at the most. I just want clear sound and mic and construction that will hold up - I had a cheap Logitech headset or two a while ago and they basically started to break in half.

    I was enamored of the Logitech G930, though, because WIRELESS! I hate having wires across my arm/lap/desk. But there are enough reviews complaining about it randomly turning off and shit to deter me. So I've been looking at SteelSeries headsets, because I have a SteelSeries and a SteelSeries keyboard now and I like my shit to match (I'm silly that way). Like maybe a Siberia or a 5H. But they have too many H-series and they like to reuse their names like 5HV2 and 5HV3 and keep old models that aren't available anymore on their website and I find it tiresome.

    Is there any really important difference between USB and 3.5mm jacks?

    Sennheiser without a doubt. Are you really deadset on wireless though?

    No, the Logitech G930 was the only halfway-legit looking headset I even found and since I got scared off of that I'm pretty much resigned to wires. Thus the question about USB versus 3.5mm jacks.

    Looking at Sennheiser stuff on Newegg, it seems like there's a huge jump from their $50-60 stuff to sets WAY above my $100 budget. And of the two priced around $100, one is only a single-ear headset, and they both have cords only 3.3 feet long, which eyeballing the distance down to my tower right now is cutting things close.

    I use a Sennheiser set at home (PC150 or 160; can't remember) and I use a SS 5HV2 when I'm on the road because it comes apart into 3 pieces and the mic hides inside the earcup. I use the 5H with its included USB sound card and I bought a Creative USB soundcard for my Sennheiser. I need one for the road because my MBP doesn't have a mic input jack. It's mostly personal preference with regards to USB and there's no super amazing sound quality improvement.

    I can attest to the build quality of both brands, so you will be happy either way you go. Both are extremely comfortable. My Sennheiser is probably 6 years old now; my 5H is around 4.

    Well, nobody in town has the Sennheiser PC310. My local Microcenter might have a SS 5HV2.

    Gaslight on
  • Magus`Magus` The fun has been DOUBLED! Registered User regular
    PC is put together though I have two issues.

    1 - The front fan on the Fractal R2 isn't running and as far as I can tell it's plugged in?

    2 - I can't find any connector for the USB 3.0 front jacks and thus only the USB 2.0 jacks work. I can find a 'USB 3.0' input on the motherboard but I've only found one USB connector coming from the case? Hrm.

  • davidsdurionsdavidsdurions Your Trusty Meatshield Panhandle NebraskaRegistered User regular
    For fans that aren't running, check the molex connector isn't getting pushed out when you connect it.

    Had that happen to me, took me forever to notice the loose lead that kept pushing out instead of doing the male-female connection.

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