I just read up on the integrated graphics performance of the upcoming FM2+ chips. That just made my choice of CPU for the HTPC/lightweight Steambox project I've started planning a whooooole lot more straightforward. Unless, of course, you guys have a good reason for me to steer clear of that route.
That said, I love it when I decide to start researching a new project and a shiny new toy is launching right at the same time.
I just read up on the integrated graphics performance of the upcoming FM2+ chips. That just made my choice of CPU for the HTPC/lightweight Steambox project I've started planning a whooooole lot more straightforward. Unless, of course, you guys have a good reason for me to steer clear of that route.
That said, I love it when I decide to start researching a new project and a shiny new toy is launching right at the same time.
Be wary of the hype. As long as there's a decent improvement over the current range, then yeah the new AMD CPUs should be pretty much the only choice for integrated graphics HTPC setups. Wait for benchmarks.
nah i was a lazy ass and waited way too long before getting around to trying to rma it
EBay then, or try to sell it to someone putting a build together here.
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SnicketysnickThe Greatest Hype Man inWesterosRegistered Userregular
Ok folks, I have pulled the trigger on a new build, but I have some questions. I'm changing OS's and this is my first use of an SSD, so is there anything different I need to do with it regarding the formatting or so?
Additionally, I'm adding a storage drive to the system, but is there any reason that I can't pop it into my current setup and put anything I want moved over onto it? The main thing that I am thinking about is that I'm moving onto a 64bit windows at last. I'm pretty sure that there is not anything weird regarding file format changes, but I thought I would check.
Ok folks, I have pulled the trigger on a new build, but I have some questions. I'm changing OS's and this is my first use of an SSD, so is there anything different I need to do with it regarding the formatting or so?
Additionally, I'm adding a storage drive to the system, but is there any reason that I can't pop it into my current setup and put anything I want moved over onto it? The main thing that I am thinking about is that I'm moving onto a 64bit windows at last. I'm pretty sure that there is not anything weird regarding file format changes, but I thought I would check.
This is the guide I always use. Very thorough and goes beyond the installation into getting everything setup after as well.
If you got a new drive for storage, I would absolutely put it in your current machine and copy whatever you want over so that you can have it in the new machine ready to go. Programs you move might not work - I suggest reinstalling programs. But regular files like music/videos/documents will be fine going from 32-bit to 64.
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SnicketysnickThe Greatest Hype Man inWesterosRegistered Userregular
Ok folks, I have pulled the trigger on a new build, but I have some questions. I'm changing OS's and this is my first use of an SSD, so is there anything different I need to do with it regarding the formatting or so?
Additionally, I'm adding a storage drive to the system, but is there any reason that I can't pop it into my current setup and put anything I want moved over onto it? The main thing that I am thinking about is that I'm moving onto a 64bit windows at last. I'm pretty sure that there is not anything weird regarding file format changes, but I thought I would check.
This is the guide I always use. Very thorough and goes beyond the installation into getting everything setup after as well.
If you got a new drive for storage, I would absolutely put it in your current machine and copy whatever you want over so that you can have it in the new machine ready to go. Programs you move might not work - I suggest reinstalling programs. But regular files like music/videos/documents will be fine going from 32-bit to 64.
This is pretty much what I thought, just wanted to check I wasn't missing some obvious incompatibility. Ty
the computer I'm building is currently sitting out in my very cold(probably like 45 F) living room. Will it fuck it up when I finally boot the thing?
45 F is not cold at all. It'll be completely fine.
My machine will refuse to boot and my cooler will sound an alarm if the fluid is below 20 Celsius. Damn near gave me a heart attack the first time I tried to boot my machine after I'd turned it off over night. It'll just wait until the temps go above 20 before it tries to boot.
So, my big blue has been in need of an update, but more pressing, there's a high schooler at church of lesser financial means and lacks a PC for her large and poor family,.
I started looking at regular PCs, but wondered how useful a shuttle computer would be for a personal family PC. I don't know what they would use it for but I'm guessing regular web surfing bits.
It's a small form factor case with mobo and PSU (a "barebones"). You'd still need RAM, HDD, and a CPU w/IGP (or a CPU plus a video card) to make it a computer (plus OS, keyboard, mouse, and monitor). What are you optimizing towards? "Regular web surfing" isn't really all that specific. I can do that on my phone fine and I could replicate that experience for less than kitting out an SFF core i-series machine (like an atom or AMD APU-based machine). But going real low end will result in a pokey experience before too long.
the computer I'm building is currently sitting out in my very cold(probably like 45 F) living room. Will it fuck it up when I finally boot the thing?
45 F is not cold at all. It'll be completely fine.
My machine will refuse to boot and my cooler will sound an alarm if the fluid is below 20 Celsius. Damn near gave me a heart attack the first time I tried to boot my machine after I'd turned it off over night. It'll just wait until the temps go above 20 before it tries to boot.
20 celsius is 68 fahrenheit. That doesn't make any sense.
I just read up on the integrated graphics performance of the upcoming FM2+ chips. That just made my choice of CPU for the HTPC/lightweight Steambox project I've started planning a whooooole lot more straightforward. Unless, of course, you guys have a good reason for me to steer clear of that route.
That said, I love it when I decide to start researching a new project and a shiny new toy is launching right at the same time.
Be wary of the hype. As long as there's a decent improvement over the current range, then yeah the new AMD CPUs should be pretty much the only choice for integrated graphics HTPC setups. Wait for benchmarks.
Oh naturally, either way though it looks like AMD is the absolute king right now for integrated graphics so I'll be going with them regardless. The benchmarks for the current AMD line vs the Haswell line isn't even a contest, Intel just gets obliterated.
In totally unrelated news, I'm looking at setting up a triple monitor array for my gaming pc and was wondering if anyone had any good recommendations for a preferably thin bezel screen. I'm going to be using this for various sims/fuck off huge resolution gaming because fuck it, I can.
Thanks!
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I am in a world of shit.
My NAS/FreeNAS is showing two drives as cannot open for ZFS:
I had 6 drives:
2 running off of the ASRock Motherboard, 4 running off of an Adaptec 1430SA.
None of the disks had any RAID configuration, so my ASRock motherboard didn't say anything much about them. The Adaptec controller saw all of them as "Legacy" configured JBOD devices.
Cue today where heat and/or a jolt caused by a too short cable has lead to two of the devices being shown as unavailable. The adaptec controller showing unconfigured.
The controllers show them as healthy otherwise or at least they think they do..
I made the error of configuring the disk which was unconfigured on the adaptec controller, so it now shows as a simple volume and is likely toast in terms of data.
Any ideas what I should do? I am guessing that the mobo attached drive being recoverable is my only hope. Anyone have any thoughts? Is this better off in the linux thread?
My NAS/FreeNAS is showing two drives as cannot open for ZFS:
I had 6 drives:
2 running off of the ASRock Motherboard, 4 running off of an Adaptec 1430SA.
None of the disks had any RAID configuration, so my ASRock motherboard didn't say anything much about them. The Adaptec controller saw all of them as "Legacy" configured JBOD devices.
Cue today where heat and/or a jolt caused by a too short cable has lead to two of the devices being shown as unavailable. The adaptec controller showing unconfigured.
The controllers show them as healthy otherwise or at least they think they do..
I made the error of configuring the disk which was unconfigured on the adaptec controller, so it now shows as a simple volume and is likely toast in terms of data.
Any ideas what I should do? I am guessing that the mobo attached drive being recoverable is my only hope. Anyone have any thoughts? Is this better off in the linux thread?
How did you have your ZFS pool set up? RAIDZ or RAIDZ2?
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the computer I'm building is currently sitting out in my very cold(probably like 45 F) living room. Will it fuck it up when I finally boot the thing?
45 F is not cold at all. It'll be completely fine.
My machine will refuse to boot and my cooler will sound an alarm if the fluid is below 20 Celsius. Damn near gave me a heart attack the first time I tried to boot my machine after I'd turned it off over night. It'll just wait until the temps go above 20 before it tries to boot.
20 celsius is 68 fahrenheit. That doesn't make any sense.
yep I'm even in a cold climate. It was minus 40 outside not long ago. I normally just leave my machine on overnight so I hadn't run into the issue before. I can imagine having a low alarm state would be good in the case of some sort of catastrophic failure.
It's not that big of an issue it just seems to sit and spin up the CPU until it climbs above the threshold then it'll allow booting. I imagine there must be a way to change the alarm.
Those barebones systems tend to be gimped by their power supplies. It'll be fine for no-OC and onboard graphics, but if you're trying to put a decent discrete GPU in there then that no-name 250 watt thing likely won't cut it. There is an H87 version that gives you a bronze 300 watt and a Z77 version that gets you a bronze 500 watt and those are progressively pricier. Are you married to the SFF? Cause once you're at $250+ for mobo, case and PSU you have a lot of options, and you can start getting discounts via component bundles.
the computer I'm building is currently sitting out in my very cold(probably like 45 F) living room. Will it fuck it up when I finally boot the thing?
45 F is not cold at all. It'll be completely fine.
My machine will refuse to boot and my cooler will sound an alarm if the fluid is below 20 Celsius. Damn near gave me a heart attack the first time I tried to boot my machine after I'd turned it off over night. It'll just wait until the temps go above 20 before it tries to boot.
20 celsius is 68 fahrenheit. That doesn't make any sense.
yep I'm even in a cold climate. It was minus 40 outside not long ago. I normally just leave my machine on overnight so I hadn't run into the issue before. I can imagine having a low alarm state would be good in the case of some sort of catastrophic failure.
It's not that big of an issue it just seems to sit and spin up the CPU until it climbs above the threshold then it'll allow booting. I imagine there must be a way to change the alarm.
I'm pretty sure minus 40 isn't a real temperature.
the computer I'm building is currently sitting out in my very cold(probably like 45 F) living room. Will it fuck it up when I finally boot the thing?
45 F is not cold at all. It'll be completely fine.
My machine will refuse to boot and my cooler will sound an alarm if the fluid is below 20 Celsius. Damn near gave me a heart attack the first time I tried to boot my machine after I'd turned it off over night. It'll just wait until the temps go above 20 before it tries to boot.
20 celsius is 68 fahrenheit. That doesn't make any sense.
yep I'm even in a cold climate. It was minus 40 outside not long ago. I normally just leave my machine on overnight so I hadn't run into the issue before. I can imagine having a low alarm state would be good in the case of some sort of catastrophic failure.
It's not that big of an issue it just seems to sit and spin up the CPU until it climbs above the threshold then it'll allow booting. I imagine there must be a way to change the alarm.
I'm pretty sure minus 40 isn't a real temperature.
Never been to Canada, I assume?
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toloveistorebel Impressive. Most impressive. Central FLRegistered Userregular
edited January 2014
It was 26F here in Central Florida this morning. I understand the 6 but I'm not quite sure what that "2" is...
For us that's freaking cold. It was 80F on Sunday and it'll be back up in the low 80's this weekend.
All joking aside though, I hope everyone stayed safe in the rest of the country. I wouldn't know what to do in weather that cold.
Dang, that's true about the internet. I'm hesitant to do the laptop route due to their apartment being in a sketchy area. Still....
Thank you, that's a lot to think about.
How do shuttles work as low end gaming pc's?
I'm assuming an Intel NUC is too compact/portable? It's essentially a Haswell PC stuffed into something about the size of a Roku box. With integrated graphics.
In other news, I was having a small fight with my N56U so I flashed the "Padavan" firmware onto it. Now every time I wake my desktop from sleep, I have disconnect/reconnect to the router. Time to revert back to the Asus firmware.
Also may be time to look for a new router. And bitch at Verizon that I want an upgrade to my FiOS modem/router.
the computer I'm building is currently sitting out in my very cold(probably like 45 F) living room. Will it fuck it up when I finally boot the thing?
45 F is not cold at all. It'll be completely fine.
My machine will refuse to boot and my cooler will sound an alarm if the fluid is below 20 Celsius. Damn near gave me a heart attack the first time I tried to boot my machine after I'd turned it off over night. It'll just wait until the temps go above 20 before it tries to boot.
20 celsius is 68 fahrenheit. That doesn't make any sense.
yep I'm even in a cold climate. It was minus 40 outside not long ago. I normally just leave my machine on overnight so I hadn't run into the issue before. I can imagine having a low alarm state would be good in the case of some sort of catastrophic failure.
It's not that big of an issue it just seems to sit and spin up the CPU until it climbs above the threshold then it'll allow booting. I imagine there must be a way to change the alarm.
I'm pretty sure minus 40 isn't a real temperature.
Never been to Canada, I assume?
Does a layover count?
I grew up in SoCal and have basically been in natural snow once in Boston (I saw a snow flake fall in New York once). Even in NorCal the lowest it's been is somewhere in the upper 20s and that was fucking cold.
Did anyone else jump on that Rakuten SSD deal? I gave them an incorrect address and support has been super slow in responding. I'd say they're on Steam Support time, but I reported a account issue with them that was preventing me from giving them money and they still haven't responded.
My friend gas a gtx 560 he is looking to replace, and wants to sell it to me for about $100. Is this a reasonable price, or is there anything equivalent for about the same price? I am rocking an old radon 4850 and a quad core and and it is serving me pretty well, able to play most of my games in medium to high, but I am considering taking him up on this.
560 or a 560ti? I'm still on a 560ti myself, and it works well enough for most games on med to high settings.
But $100 gets you about the same performance in a brand new card with a 7790, so I would offer $50-75 for the used card, as the going rate on ebay seems to be about $60.
ShogunHair long; money long; me and broke wizards we don't get alongRegistered Userregular
Yo dudes. Was sitting on my bed when my computer suddenly shutdown as if it lost power. Surge bar is ok, everything else still has power. Machine won't power on anymore. Unplugged various things and still won't power on. Took the case shroud off and if I plug the cord back in the motherboard power LED comes on and if I hit the power switch the fans start to turn but don't make it.
I'm assuming if the board is getting power it isnt dead/fried, but I don't know that for a fact. It seems like the PSU is getting power, but my machine will not turn on now. Thoughts?
Wow, could be any number of things. Do the fans turn and just stop, or do they keep powered on but it doesn't boot up?
If it's the first, I would assume your PSU is dead. If the second, then something else is probably dead or came loose. Reseat everything (CPU/heatsink included) and try to start it up.
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The fans turn and stop, but my power LED light is on and when I plug in the PSU in the back I'm getting the sound as though it is getting electricity. Can it still be dead? Is it not odd a Gold rated brand new PSU would suddenly die? I hope all my other shit isn't fried as well.
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That said, I love it when I decide to start researching a new project and a shiny new toy is launching right at the same time.
Be wary of the hype. As long as there's a decent improvement over the current range, then yeah the new AMD CPUs should be pretty much the only choice for integrated graphics HTPC setups. Wait for benchmarks.
EBay then, or try to sell it to someone putting a build together here.
Additionally, I'm adding a storage drive to the system, but is there any reason that I can't pop it into my current setup and put anything I want moved over onto it? The main thing that I am thinking about is that I'm moving onto a 64bit windows at last. I'm pretty sure that there is not anything weird regarding file format changes, but I thought I would check.
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This is the guide I always use. Very thorough and goes beyond the installation into getting everything setup after as well.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1156654/seans-windows-7-install-optimization-guide-for-ssds-hdds
If you got a new drive for storage, I would absolutely put it in your current machine and copy whatever you want over so that you can have it in the new machine ready to go. Programs you move might not work - I suggest reinstalling programs. But regular files like music/videos/documents will be fine going from 32-bit to 64.
Ok, that looks fantastic
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45 F is not cold at all. It'll be completely fine.
This is pretty much what I thought, just wanted to check I wasn't missing some obvious incompatibility. Ty
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My machine will refuse to boot and my cooler will sound an alarm if the fluid is below 20 Celsius. Damn near gave me a heart attack the first time I tried to boot my machine after I'd turned it off over night. It'll just wait until the temps go above 20 before it tries to boot.
I started looking at regular PCs, but wondered how useful a shuttle computer would be for a personal family PC. I don't know what they would use it for but I'm guessing regular web surfing bits.
http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16534
But yeah, if you're looking for cheap PC I would say a chromebook or cheap laptop is the way to go.
20 celsius is 68 fahrenheit. That doesn't make any sense.
Thank you, that's a lot to think about.
How do shuttles work as low end gaming pc's?
http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16534
I'm planning to primarily be connected via Ethernet but it'd be nice to be able to do wireless when I need to.
Just get a USB dongle. I have this and it works great:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833166074
It was a bit more that $18 though (think I got it for $45 on Amazon).
Oh naturally, either way though it looks like AMD is the absolute king right now for integrated graphics so I'll be going with them regardless. The benchmarks for the current AMD line vs the Haswell line isn't even a contest, Intel just gets obliterated.
In totally unrelated news, I'm looking at setting up a triple monitor array for my gaming pc and was wondering if anyone had any good recommendations for a preferably thin bezel screen. I'm going to be using this for various sims/fuck off huge resolution gaming because fuck it, I can.
Thanks!
My NAS/FreeNAS is showing two drives as cannot open for ZFS:
I had 6 drives:
2 running off of the ASRock Motherboard, 4 running off of an Adaptec 1430SA.
None of the disks had any RAID configuration, so my ASRock motherboard didn't say anything much about them. The Adaptec controller saw all of them as "Legacy" configured JBOD devices.
Cue today where heat and/or a jolt caused by a too short cable has lead to two of the devices being shown as unavailable. The adaptec controller showing unconfigured.
The controllers show them as healthy otherwise or at least they think they do..
I made the error of configuring the disk which was unconfigured on the adaptec controller, so it now shows as a simple volume and is likely toast in terms of data.
Any ideas what I should do? I am guessing that the mobo attached drive being recoverable is my only hope. Anyone have any thoughts? Is this better off in the linux thread?
How did you have your ZFS pool set up? RAIDZ or RAIDZ2?
yep I'm even in a cold climate. It was minus 40 outside not long ago. I normally just leave my machine on overnight so I hadn't run into the issue before. I can imagine having a low alarm state would be good in the case of some sort of catastrophic failure.
It's not that big of an issue it just seems to sit and spin up the CPU until it climbs above the threshold then it'll allow booting. I imagine there must be a way to change the alarm.
Those barebones systems tend to be gimped by their power supplies. It'll be fine for no-OC and onboard graphics, but if you're trying to put a decent discrete GPU in there then that no-name 250 watt thing likely won't cut it. There is an H87 version that gives you a bronze 300 watt and a Z77 version that gets you a bronze 500 watt and those are progressively pricier. Are you married to the SFF? Cause once you're at $250+ for mobo, case and PSU you have a lot of options, and you can start getting discounts via component bundles.
I'm pretty sure minus 40 isn't a real temperature.
Never been to Canada, I assume?
For us that's freaking cold. It was 80F on Sunday and it'll be back up in the low 80's this weekend.
All joking aside though, I hope everyone stayed safe in the rest of the country. I wouldn't know what to do in weather that cold.
I'm assuming an Intel NUC is too compact/portable? It's essentially a Haswell PC stuffed into something about the size of a Roku box. With integrated graphics.
Also may be time to look for a new router. And bitch at Verizon that I want an upgrade to my FiOS modem/router.
Does a layover count?
I grew up in SoCal and have basically been in natural snow once in Boston (I saw a snow flake fall in New York once). Even in NorCal the lowest it's been is somewhere in the upper 20s and that was fucking cold.
Did anyone else jump on that Rakuten SSD deal? I gave them an incorrect address and support has been super slow in responding. I'd say they're on Steam Support time, but I reported a account issue with them that was preventing me from giving them money and they still haven't responded.
But $100 gets you about the same performance in a brand new card with a 7790, so I would offer $50-75 for the used card, as the going rate on ebay seems to be about $60.
I'm assuming if the board is getting power it isnt dead/fried, but I don't know that for a fact. It seems like the PSU is getting power, but my machine will not turn on now. Thoughts?
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If it's the first, I would assume your PSU is dead. If the second, then something else is probably dead or came loose. Reseat everything (CPU/heatsink included) and try to start it up.
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