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[Hesher] The Unbearable Filth of the Soul

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Heshers. Headbangers. Metalheads. Whatever else you sick fucks want to call yourselves. This is the new thread for the next few months and/or years.

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A ridiculously prolific blog of Metal reviews curated and principally written by our very own @autothrall

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Looking for metal recommendations? You can find everything from Abigor to Znowhite in here. Thrash, death, black, NWOBHM, doom: pick your poison and Auto will provide the good shit.

Some basic guidelines for people just joining up with us:

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-we know that Dragonforce are the noodliest
-we know that Opeth is some craaaazy shit, dog
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-we do, in fact, look down harshly upon Killswitch Engage

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  • autothrallautothrall Registered User regular
    Right on. I submit.

    Been giving the new Autopsy a few spins and will write a review for it by week's end. It's got some pretty sweet songs on it, like:

  • LoveIsUnityLoveIsUnity Registered User regular
    Sooo... I actually saw them play this live, along with another song from the new album. I remember digging it when I heard it live.

    I like that they've still got that doomy guitar tone going on at times.

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  • I N V I C T U SI N V I C T U S Registered User regular
    Who's everyone's favorite death metal vocalist?

    My top two that come to mind are Chris Reifert and Martin Van Drunen. I love the wild, sickening sound Reifert gets - it's like he's growling from around a piece of rotted flesh hanging from his jaws. Van Drunen, meanwhile, sounds like a beast that's gone into a frenzy. I've heard someone criticize him by saying he sounds like he's "swallowing his own tongue," but I kind of like that maddened style.

    Honorable mention to Ross Dolan, who has a really great, deep tone, but also enunciates clearer than most other DM vocalists. I like a lot of Immolation's lyrics, and Dolan makes them understood without the benefit of a lyric sheet in front of me.

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  • autothrallautothrall Registered User regular
    Van Drunen would have to be my single favorite, followed by Chuck Schuldiner (at least for the first two Death albums, if nothing else), Piotr Paweł Wiwczarek of Vader (who definitely has a husky, out of breath sort of style I find unique), John Tardy of course for taking it over the top...and when it comes to far more guttural guys, I'd go with Craig Pillard (Incantation) and Antti Bowman (Demilich). I like Reifert because he has a lot of character, Lord Worm (on None So Vile), David Vincent in his prime, Karl Willetts in his...Corpesgrinder for that fast punctuation and a deceptively subtle charisma he's always got...damn, there are so many to choose from.

    I guess it would be easier just to choose by individual album performances than entire careers, because a lot of the best have had some not-so-great showings on particular albums.

  • TavTav Registered User regular
    I really wanna see Anaal Nathrakh again. I was so surprised when they had an actual drummer who was able to keep up with the preprogrammed stuff off In The Consolation...

  • KakodaimonosKakodaimonos Registered User regular
    Speaking of vocalists, Marco Aro is back in the Haunted. Along with Erlandsson.

  • NoizlanifNoizlanif MMO-Whore Registered User regular
    But....Guys. Killswitch Engage's New album is hard to the core. Also who ever reccomended or brought up Monolith Deathcult Thank you! It was a portal to a few other groups I haven't heard, which also blew my mind.

  • I N V I C T U SI N V I C T U S Registered User regular
    edited June 2013
    One thing I particularly like about Van Drunen is that I think he's getting better with age. His performance on the past few Asphyx albums has been fantastic, moreso I think than the early run. I wasn't particularly impressed with his vocals in Pestilence, but we're getting into a pretty clear divide in recording techniques by that point, and he was also pretty green at the time.

    I just saw one of the songs on the new Autopsy is called "She Is a Funeral." What a title.

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  • CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    The latest Summoning is quickly becoming my favorite.

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  • autothrallautothrall Registered User regular
    edited June 2013
    Oh man, I loved his vocals on the first two Pestilence albums, totally gruesome and novel for the time (like the tortured growls on "The Trauma" or the rap-like meter on "Chronic Infection"), but I'm biased obviously since one of them is my favorite death metal ever. I do also love his performance lately with Hail of Bullets and that latest Asphyx. He still sounds fantastic, but a lot of the actual writing and intonation of his vocal lines is really just similar to what he'd already done back then on Consuming Impulse, The Rack, etc. Which is fine, it's just one of those things that never gets old for me...and you're right, I think the modern production definitely helps him, he's much louder now than on those older Asphyx albums and the Comecon he fronted.

    Here is "She is a Funeral". The chord progression at first is a little bland and familiar but it gets better, even sounding a little like Deceased with the melody pattern in the bridge. I think I'm digging The Headless Ritual more than Macabre Eternal, even though this one for me returns more to the first two albums whereas the last one, even if I didn't love it, was slightly more progressive and evolved.



    On Metal-Archives they're conducting a 'Manowar vs. Virgin Steele' poll in the Metal Discussion forum. For me it really just came down to 80s Manowar vs. 1994-2000 VS, since I don't have much interest outside of that. I eventually went with Manowar based on my enjoyment of their first four discs. Virgin Steele is more interesting conceptually and superior in terms of melody, but as much as I enjoy House of Atreus and The Marriage of Heaven & Hell I'm not sure they'd even have sounded the same without some Manowar influence in there...although I wont' lie, they are what I WISH Manowar had sounded like through the 90s. Tough choice.

    I'm also probably the only person on Earth who likes the Exorcist spinoff more than most of the Virgin Steele stuff. Filthy, punishing, delicious SPEED/THRASH METAL EVIL. That's one album where I actually feel I might have rated it slightly too low, maybe at some point I'll upgrade it to an 83-85%.


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  • IncindiumIncindium Registered User regular
    Anyone seen Steve Vai in concert before? Just wondering what his show is like.

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  • BlackDragon480BlackDragon480 Bluster Kerfuffle Master of Windy ImportRegistered User regular
    Incindium wrote: »
    Anyone seen Steve Vai in concert before? Just wondering what his show is like.
    If you're seeing him as the sole headliner, it'll be 2+ hours of awesome.

    He tries to make stuff as visually interesting as a guitar wanker can and almost always plays a wide variety of material from his entire catalog, from early Zappa stuff to his latest album.

    He has very little presence as a speaker though, so don't expect much on the mic from him other than just what the next song is.

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  • KazooKazoo Get in the van. I have candy.Registered User regular
    I'm a fan of August Burns Red. Is that metal enough?

  • GreasyKidsStuffGreasyKidsStuff MOMMM! ROAST BEEF WANTS TO KISS GIRLS ON THE TITTIES!Registered User regular
    Incindium wrote: »
    Anyone seen Steve Vai in concert before? Just wondering what his show is like.
    If you're seeing him as the sole headliner, it'll be 2+ hours of awesome.

    He tries to make stuff as visually interesting as a guitar wanker can and almost always plays a wide variety of material from his entire catalog, from early Zappa stuff to his latest album.

    He has very little presence as a speaker though, so don't expect much on the mic from him other than just what the next song is.

    Ah, I thought his stage banter was awesome! Loved listening to him talk between songs.

    But yeah, agreed on all other points. One of the best shows I've seen.

    Incindium
  • Rhan9Rhan9 Registered User regular
    edited June 2013
    Kazoo wrote: »
    I'm a fan of August Burns Red. Is that metal enough?

    I don't personally like most metalcore, but you should try to check out the many varieties of metal. I'm sure you could find something similar that you'll like just as much(or even better).

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  • TavTav Registered User regular
    Metalcore can be good!

    There's Kezia, Colors and um....

  • KakodaimonosKakodaimonos Registered User regular
    Five Finger Death Punch?

    :rotate:

  • HomelessHomeless Registered User regular
    This week I learned that I don't like anything that Yngwie Malmsteen touches. Amazing technical guitarist, but the dude can't write a song to save his life. I gave Alcatrazz a shot - bought a record from my local used record establishment - and it suffers from the same songwriting ennui that afflicts other Malmsteen projects. On the plus side, I got some Blue Öyster Cult and the newish Heaven and Hell LP out of that trip.

  • autothrallautothrall Registered User regular
    edited June 2013
    Tav wrote: »
    Metalcore can be good!

    There's Kezia, Colors and um....

    108, Anodyne, Architect, Between the Buried and Me, Botch, Cave In, Coalesce, Converge, Drowningman, Earth Crisis, Keelhaul, Overcast, Resurrection, Snapcase, Starkweather...all pretty good in general or have at least one good album.

    Though bear in mind many of these fit the 90s definition of the style, hardcore/punk or post-hardcore with metallic riffing, and not the 'oughts style which is more Swedish melodeath, bad retread breakdowns and melodic choruses fit more to pop-punk or radio rock.

    So I tried out the band in question:



    I wasn't too sold on this, the vocalist sounds like a million other vocalists from the 90s and beyond with the mix of overbearing growls and snarls that are supposed to convey emotion only by this point it just seems forced and familiar, and the breakdown is completely boring even though they dress it up with a million tiny little guitars. The bridge riff is decent and hyper-melodic and at least the doesn't do a Good Charlotte chorus, so I won't say I hated it either. Basically this reminded me of In Flames + Dark Tranquillity with an American singer and bad, requisite breakdowns.



    Same deal, really. Okay riffs but a little methodical. Wasn't for me.

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  • LoveIsUnityLoveIsUnity Registered User regular
    I wouldn't describe Snapcase as metalcore (or Earth Crisis) for that matter. I consider them both hardcore, but I'm not going to fight over genres or anything like that. I pretty much agree with your list with the exception of Between the Buried and Me, who I hate with an unholy passion.

    I'll also say that the first couple Darkest Hour albums are pretty good, as is the first Shai Hulud album.

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  • TavTav Registered User regular
    yeah, i meant the 00's definition of metalcore

    those bands aren't even close to what that genre is associated with now

  • I N V I C T U SI N V I C T U S Registered User regular
    autothrall wrote: »
    Here is "She is a Funeral". The chord progression at first is a little bland and familiar but it gets better, even sounding a little like Deceased with the melody pattern in the bridge. I think I'm digging The Headless Ritual more than Macabre Eternal, even though this one for me returns more to the first two albums whereas the last one, even if I didn't love it, was slightly more progressive and evolved.

    On Metal-Archives they're conducting a 'Manowar vs. Virgin Steele' poll in the Metal Discussion forum. For me it really just came down to 80s Manowar vs. 1994-2000 VS, since I don't have much interest outside of that. I eventually went with Manowar based on my enjoyment of their first four discs. Virgin Steele is more interesting conceptually and superior in terms of melody, but as much as I enjoy House of Atreus and The Marriage of Heaven & Hell I'm not sure they'd even have sounded the same without some Manowar influence in there...although I wont' lie, they are what I WISH Manowar had sounded like through the 90s. Tough choice.

    I'm also probably the only person on Earth who likes the Exorcist spinoff more than most of the Virgin Steele stuff. Filthy, punishing, delicious SPEED/THRASH METAL EVIL. That's one album where I actually feel I might have rated it slightly too low, maybe at some point I'll upgrade it to an 83-85%.

    The only thing that really bothered me about Macabre Eternal was the runtime. Autopsy albums don't need to break an hour, especially when they had just put out an EP of new material a few months beforehand. I've only heard the two songs you've posted here from the new album (waiting for my local store's shipment to come in), but I can see what you're saying about it going back to the older sound. I'll have to do a full album comparison eventually.

    I'm totally biased regarding that M-A poll, as Virgin Steele is my favorite band. I don't think American power metal gets any better than their run from the first Marriage... album through the second House of Atreus. I do enjoy a lot of early Manowar, however - Into Glory Ride is one of my favorite albums. But they'll always be a greatest-hits sort of band for me, while Virgin Steele have full, intricate albums I can listen to forever.

    I love Exorcist, too, mostly because it proves just how good of a guitarist Edward Pursino is. Some massive solos on that album. Unfortunately, the symphonic/baroque style of Virgin Steele isn't built for mountains of riffs, so it's easy to forget that he's a really great player.

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  • autothrallautothrall Registered User regular
    edited June 2013
    I wouldn't describe Snapcase as metalcore (or Earth Crisis) for that matter. I consider them both hardcore, but I'm not going to fight over genres or anything like that. I pretty much agree with your list with the exception of Between the Buried and Me, who I hate with an unholy passion.

    I think for Snapcase I was just referring to the earlier stuff, which has a lot more metallic chugging on there. The later albums are definitely more of a post-hardcore vein, sorry for the confusion.

    You don't like Alaska by BTBAM? Damn, I think that's a pretty masterful record. Riff paradise.
    Tav wrote: »
    those bands aren't even close to what that genre is associated with now

    Oh for sure, but mainly because the genre's really bad now :D Or at least nobody is letting me hear the good stuff.

    It's funny but in the 80s, metalcore was another name we occasionally through around for crossover which had an altogether different sound.

    Are we considering 'deathcore' the metalcore of the 'teens? Time will tell.

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  • LoveIsUnityLoveIsUnity Registered User regular
    I have personal issues with them that I think I may have hashed out once or twice on the forums before.

    Oh, I will also say that I like Dillinger Escape Plan circa Calculating Infinite and before. (The new singer is a dumb jock.)

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  • autothrallautothrall Registered User regular
    A dumb jock with an ex-porn star girlfriend, unless they broke it off. I think with DEP I just enjoy their ideas outside of the spazzy screaming chaos more than those inside. It's just exhausting music, sheer testosterone, but when they mess around with more interesting song structures it can actually prove pretty rewarding.

  • I N V I C T U SI N V I C T U S Registered User regular
    Man, I totally skipped out on this album because I hated The Science of Annihilation - too much speed, totally unmemorable, just generic "2fast" speed riffs and constant double-bass pounding. But it seems like Cage quickly got their heads out of their asses and remembered how to write sticky hooks and riffs that stand out from one another.

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  • TavTav Registered User regular
    edited June 2013


    Here is Primordial covering The Antichrist.

    edit: Apparently it's the only cover they've done in like, 20 or so years...

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  • autothrallautothrall Registered User regular
    The new Necrovile album is pretty badass, very punchy and snappy hyper Cannibal Corpse style riffing and some decent bass guitar, and a little bit of Necrophagist/Decapitated/Cryptopsy technicality.

  • autothrallautothrall Registered User regular
    edited June 2013


    New song. Sort of a mix of all their 90s stuff. I like the bridge but the riffs aren't as catchy as Heartwork.

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  • CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    edited June 2013
    I like the new Amon Amarth, but for some reason Hegg yelling KNEEL reminds me of The Avengers.

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  • BlakoutBlakout Lordran's SpookylandRegistered User regular
    autothrall wrote: »
    Tav wrote: »
    those bands aren't even close to what that genre is associated with now

    Oh for sure, but mainly because the genre's really bad now :D Or at least nobody is letting me hear the good stuff.

    It's funny but in the 80s, metalcore was another name we occasionally through around for crossover which had an altogether different sound.

    Are we considering 'deathcore' the metalcore of the 'teens? Time will tell.

    "Metalcore" is pretty much useless as a genre description nowadays. People use it and "Post-Hardcore" interchangeably to describe basically anything with screams that isn't 'real' metal, meaning that Converge, awful synth-breakdown shit like Attack Attack, and the 00's melodeath-lite of Killswitch Engage and the like all get thrown into the same 'genre' just because nobody's really bothered to come up with a better name for it.

    There are some bands in that scene doing some pretty interesting things, though I'm not sure you guys will dig much of it. For example...

    Every Time I Die have been putting out fun, Southern Rock-inspired metalcore for awhile now, and their last album (Ex-Lives) was one of my favorites of 2012.


    The Chariot's One Wing, also released last year, is a pretty chaotic, sludgy album with some really cool ideas:


    letlive. aren't doing anything particularly new (they mostly just ape the early 2000s post-hardcore style of Refused, Glassjaw, etc.), but they do it really fucking well, and with a passion and intensity that's completely missing from most bands playing this style of music:


    Stray From the Path are a pretty cool modern hardcore band that's hugely influenced by Rage Against the Machine. They use a lot of fairly generic breakdowns/bassdrops, but they've got the sincerity that's lacking in so many similar bands that lets them pull it off.


    Bring Me the Horizon, of all bands, had a very cool electronic/post-rock atmosphere on their newest album (Sempiternal). Lyrically, it ranges from forgettable to horrible cliched, and the heavier sections are mostly generic, but I really dig the overall sound. Oli's vocal performance brings to mind a whole lot of unfavorable comparisons, ranging from STYE-era Anders Friden to Chester Fucking Bennington, but I actually enjoy it a lot and feel like it's a perfect match for the music.


    The Human Abstract started out as an abysmal BtBaM/Protest the Hero knockoff, but eventually kicked out the worthless singer and released one of my favorite progressive metalcore albums in Digital Veil. The album's all about the guitar work, which is great because I'm a sucker for AJ Minette's classical-inspired riffing, and the songwriting (which was practically nonexistent on their older albums) is pretty solid throughout.


    Like I said, I don't figure you guys will care much for any of these, but I figured I'd share just in case.

  • jungleroomxjungleroomx Send an angel to pull me from the hell below Registered User regular
    Gojira is the heaviest band on the fucking planet, even if L'Enfant Sauvage isn't their absolute bestest work.

    (It's still fucking good)

    I don't care how many double bass pedal berrapapapapapaps and dweedles and djents you can put in the music. The rhythmic ending to "Mouth Of Kala" is a skullcrushing motherfucker of a motherfucker.

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  • TavTav Registered User regular
    Gojira is the heaviest band on the fucking planet

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  • jungleroomxjungleroomx Send an angel to pull me from the hell below Registered User regular
    While the doom is very good, there is an oceanic tide feeling in Gojira. Besides, if I was going to pick a doom/stoner doom band, i'd probably go with Yob for crushingness.

    Their riffs crumble foundations, son. Shit is heavy.

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  • Liquid GhostLiquid Ghost DO YOU HEAR THE VOICES, TOO?! Registered User regular
    edited July 2013
    I've been sinking my gnarled, hideous claws into a lot of shoegazey/droney sort of stuff lately. I found a few black metal and doom outfits that crunch out this kind of canorous noise, but I'm seeking more. Something like a really atmospheric, almost hypnotizing blend of "metalgaze"(I hate that term) with a significant touch of black metal or doom in there to bend the formula somewhat. I've had the urge to discover lots of stuff similar to Landforge, as well, and I figure that this thread would be a fantastic place to visit for recommendations on these fronts.

    edit: maybe i'm just paranoid, but i'm getting a sense of deja vu here. i apologize if i've made this exact same post in the past. i think the last thing i came snooping around for was melodic black metal along the lines of naglfar and ceremonial castings, but i have the memory of a hamburger.

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  • jungleroomxjungleroomx Send an angel to pull me from the hell below Registered User regular
    I've been sinking my gnarled, hideous claws into a lot of shoegazey/droney sort of stuff lately. I found a few black metal and doom outfits that crunch out this kind of canorous noise, but I'm seeking more. Something like a really atmospheric, almost hypnotizing blend of "metalgaze"(I hate that term) with a significant touch of black metal or doom in there to bend the formula somewhat. I've had the urge to discover lots of stuff similar to Landforge, as well, and I figure that this thread would be a fantastic place to visit for recommendations on these fronts.

    Bootgaze instead of metalgaze always worked for me.

    Have you tried Jesu?

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  • TavTav Registered User regular
    I've been sinking my gnarled, hideous claws into a lot of shoegazey/droney sort of stuff lately. I found a few black metal and doom outfits that crunch out this kind of canorous noise, but I'm seeking more. Something like a really atmospheric, almost hypnotizing blend of "metalgaze"(I hate that term) with a significant touch of black metal or doom in there to bend the formula somewhat. I've had the urge to discover lots of stuff similar to Landforge, as well, and I figure that this thread would be a fantastic place to visit for recommendations on these fronts.

    Alcest

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  • LoveIsUnityLoveIsUnity Registered User regular
    edited July 2013
    I've been sinking my gnarled, hideous claws into a lot of shoegazey/droney sort of stuff lately. I found a few black metal and doom outfits that crunch out this kind of canorous noise, but I'm seeking more. Something like a really atmospheric, almost hypnotizing blend of "metalgaze"(I hate that term) with a significant touch of black metal or doom in there to bend the formula somewhat. I've had the urge to discover lots of stuff similar to Landforge, as well, and I figure that this thread would be a fantastic place to visit for recommendations on these fronts.

    edit: maybe i'm just paranoid, but i'm getting a sense of deja vu here. i apologize if i've made this exact same post in the past. i think the last thing i came snooping around for was melodic black metal along the lines of naglfar and ceremonial castings, but i have the memory of a hamburger.

    Wolves in the Throne Room
    Year of No Light
    Alcest
    Amesoeurs
    Blut Aus Nord
    Heretoir
    Solstafir
    Lifelover (it doesn't exactly fit but listen to Konkurs for fuck's sake)

    I have more recommendations but I'm more than a little drunk right now. Remind me later.

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  • Liquid GhostLiquid Ghost DO YOU HEAR THE VOICES, TOO?! Registered User regular
    edited July 2013
    I dig Jesu. Alcest's "Les Voyages de L'âme" is one of the best albums I've ever listened to. I've got Wolves in the Throne Room, Amesoeurs, and Blut Aus Nord in my playlist. I've heard of the others, like Lifelover, Heretoir, Solstafir, and Year of No Light, but never got around to sampling much of their music. That will be happening immediately.

    Thank you for the assistance. Off I go, sipping coffee and making macros in Rift while searching for new metal stuff to enjoy.

    edit: six minutes into this, i felt like i was having some kind of dmt flashback. music holds a kind of profound power and i'm pretty sure my life would be desolate and hollow without it.

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