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According to this week's Entertainment Weekly, The top Science Fiction TV series is..
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Buffy the Vampire Slayer?
And they didn't even put Babylon 5 in the list. I just don't know what to say to these people.
EW, don't you know what Science Fiction is and is not?
I'm just a little pissed at them. Okay, maybe more than that.
Where are the pitchforks and torches?
And they didn't even put Babylon 5 in the list. I just don't know what to say to these people.
EW, don't you know what Science Fiction is and is not?
I'm just a little pissed at them. Okay, maybe more than that.
Where are the pitchforks and torches?
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Couldn't get through the second episode of Babylon 5 before walking away. But, it wasn't as bad as Dune. Dune puts me to sleep exactly 20 minutes in. Every time.
It still bothers me. It seems to me like a bad typo. I want it to be fix, regardless if I care about their opinions or not.
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It kinda dips in on occasion, like with the robotic duplicates, but that'd be a weak justification.
That said, Buffy is good. I don't consider it sci-fi, but whatever. I mean it has elements of it, but they're minor and it would be like saying Law and Order is the best medical drama because parts of some episodes happen in hospitals.
Urban fantasy.
Buffy was my introduction to that genre. It wasn't until I started reading novels that I noticed that was it was urban fantasy.
yeah, sci-fi and fantasy are generally lumped together in most cases so its hardly surprising when one is used as a catch all term. also you could argue that season 4 of Buffy had a leaning towards sci-fi, though i'd hardly use that in the shows favor.
This magazine right here:
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Sure the main section is called "Science Fiction & Fantasy," but that's because the people that read one of those are pretty likely to want to read the other. Despite that though there are definitely sub-genres of the books placed there and urban fantasy is definitely one of them.
I'm not sure that Firefly even made the list. Same thing with Eureka.
Some of the stuff on the SyFi channel is really a mixed bag. I do enjoy watching Warehouse 13, and one could make the case that the show is Urban Fantasy (To be honest Warehouse 13 is in a barren place in South Dakota, far far away from any well known city.)
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Lost is science fiction so that deserves to be on the list. Warehouse 13 is both science fiction and science fantasy.
Sci-fi and fantasy tend to be very similar in theme, too. And have similar tropes and stuff.
Sometimes they're practically indistinguishable. Look at Star Wars. It has elements of both and nothing seems particularly out of place.
Space fantasy.
at its most basic its fantasy. it even start with the classic fairy tale opening, 'once upon a time, in a far away land'*. however, its setting gives it veneer of sci-fi, despite there being nothing scientific about it.
at no point is Star Wars actually sci-fi, but its never called fantasy.
*'Along time ago, in a galaxy far far away'
And Buffy is SciFi because of robots.
The sci-fi aspects aren't the primary genre the show is about. I guess it also could be called science fantasy if we include them in the show's genre.
I accept, on the testimony of others whose opinions I trust, that B5's story was excellent.
The TV show was awful - as in, all the things that turn a screenplay into a TV show. The actors, the set and costume design, the special effects.
Hollywood seems reboot-crazy. If there's any IP aching for a reboot, B5 is it.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Rebooting B5 would be a terrible idea. Try reading any part of the B5 thread to find out why.
Most if the actors were great, sets and costumes were better then could be expected from the budget. And the cgi is better than the shit in Defiance.
The only modern show element that B5 would benifit from is the fact that season long story arcs are accepted now, but B5 already got away with a story that spanned the whole show.
But if you remade it now it would be forced to include 20 somethings in skintight t-shirts and angsty teenagers. It would loose alle the charm and suffer if it was not allowed to complete it's storyline before cancellation.
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Island. Being on fire.
I would argue that Phineas and Ferb is actually pretty sci-fi, in a Fringe-for-kids kind of way
According to itself, it's #1 on its own list of best weekly entertainment magazines.
If it was Orphan Black, I would be a little bit understanding.
The writers on that show really have a good grasp of what makes a compelling story.
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Not all people tread lightly around its genre.
Fantasy isn't all Star Wars is. Having a fairy tale opening doesn't mean its advanced technology ceases to be sci-fi by definition. The movies having plots similar to fantasy epics isn't all that is required to categorize an IP by genre. Setting is an enormous factor in that and the Star Wars universe setting is literally crawling with science fiction concepts with its technology. Space ships, faster than light space travel, laser guns, force-fields, technological death machines (Sun Crusher, Death Star etc), tractor beams, mechanical vehicles that don't exist (AT-AT walkers, speeders), artificial limbs, cyborgs, highly advanced robots - the list is never ending. All qualify as sci-fi inventions. This isn't a veneer the IP is drowning in sci-fi tropes. The fact the universe also has a sophisticated fantasy component with The Force doesn't mean those inventions cease to be relevant in the IP's genre. There is a genre that fits all of the above in one setting, which is space fantasy. WarHammer 40k fits, as well, and Buffy to a lesser degree.
Except for Empire Strikes Back which is listed under sci-fi all the Star Wars movies on IMDB are listed under both the sci-fi and fantasy genres. I don't know why you think it's never been called fantasy or sci-fi before. If that was the case genre categories mean nothing and I disagree that's what's going on with Star Wars.
It all falls into the realm of speculative fiction. It involves asking "what if...?" and then exploring that question. Imagine some fundamental aspect of the world was different - there's dragons! there's magic! there's time-travel! there's ghosts! - and then tell a story around that.
So getting away from the genre argument, how good is Buffy? I'd say it was pretty fantastic. While I may not stick it at the top of a list of spec-fic series, it's good enough that I wouldn't think the list's author was smoking something.
http://startrek40.blogspot.com/2006/09/forty-years-of-star-trek-by-arthur-c_07.html
Also, Star Trek should be on the top of that list. Yes, it has a lot of flaws but people always forget just how influential it was.
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