Ouch, honestly about the only time I'd pick Soraka is with a Cait or Graves. Anyone else and your lack of lane presence starts to really show.
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It seriously would not have been that bad if she hadn't insisted on running through their creep wave to silence and q spam their vayne after lee's repeated ganks had dropped us both to ~1/2 health.
She was gold ranked and had a thousand more wins than I did. I am dumbfounded after what I just experienced.
Oh my gosh, I just went from a whatever ribbon to a blue ribbon. I'd feel better about these ones if I hadn't switched to 99% low-pressure bot games because of my terrible really bad Internet connection.
By dumb I mean 'why is all this shit on one kit' Nami is still one of my favourite supports to play.
First time I played Nami was during an ARAM and I was all WTF a MERMAID?!THIS GAME.
Then we had a moment. Well actually we had like 16 moments by ourselves and another 20 or so with the other players.
I just never knew it could be so good, sorry Taric
Fish is broken shit man.
Just lost a game. Was fucking hilarious, my team was so bad that underfed Nami out-damaged our Udyr while I basically went around rescuing the shit out of everyone and dying for it.
The All caps made that game much more amusing than it should have being.
I'm hoping that Nami is mechanically difficult enough to avoid the nerfbat (especially since her current state is due to a long string of buffs), but honestly Riot's policies for balancing bot lane completely baffle me.
Namis bubble is hard to land and if you miss welp there goes your lane presence for 10~ seconds. Saving team mates from half a lane away with her ult is the best tho.
Then there was the time I got a blind kill over dragon wall with it that was hilarious.
Last night I had a "Least fun I've ever had winning" game on SR. Started out crushing as Draven, probably 9-1 to start, then we started getting regular 4 man ganks bottom with jungle and mid rotating down and my support starts raging incredibly at our mid and top for some reason. Then our jungle joins in. I try to tell them to calm down and that it's not helping anything and they admit it's likely making it worse and continue on! I even tried to surrender at one point because I didn't even want to play on their team anymore. Eventually I just muted them, focused on my positioning and ended up 22-10-12, but it definitely left a bad taste in my mouth. Never fun reporting your own support.
(he also either missed or grabbed renekton every time once laning ended)
So last night i finally had a truly heinious game, like many I hear of from NA-land. ARAM, and we have a decent team compo. I have Elise, even though I'm hardly good with her (totally not my playstyle, i found out), but whatever, right?
Enemy team: Nurse Akali and Hyena WW. WW continue to spam /l wherever he thinks he's outside our immediate reach, Akali occationally doing the same. All the while they spout vile and childish comments. I decide to just ignore chat and use pings exclusively, but 3 of my team start to rise to the insults. I ask them to ignore/put offending players on mute, focus and DON'T get baited.
Nidalee and me poke the enemy team, but the rest keeps trying to "catch" the offending player. Ofc they overextend, usually all alone, fall into the trap and then things fall to pieces.
I mean, yes; I did manage to do 3 eight-legged stomps all over his furry face, punishing him when I gathered he actually was alone. And that felt sooo good to wipe his hyena grin away. But that was only when I saw Nidalee++ had my back, to ensure the kill. I did not rush in, like the others continued to do. Why can't my teammates see that these guys are trolling to the max, particularly after I tell write to them about exactly what they were trying to achieve? Do we just automatically develop an e-honor fetish by playing a MOBA? And so when trolls show up, we suddenly feel like we automatically become mechanically better than the enemy, divinely enabled to smite the evil trolls with ease? And why can't these self-styled E-paladins learn that this behavior is a ruse to make them act unfocused, even on the 3.rd or 10.th go?
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Not sure what build they might be running but I do know that Tankaddin is an absolute SOB that jumps into your team, still gibs a carry after some riftwalk stacks, and gets away because he built tank and has that passive.
he built tear > catalyst > merc > roa > chalice
derp derp I have 10,000 mana and no dmg
Catalyst-tear-ROA-Archangel-deathcap is like the most basic of kassadin builds. If you don't build ROA/seraph you really aren't tanky enough to do anything except pubstomp people who don't realize they can just CC and one shot you as soon as you Riftwalk near them.
I wouldn't build a chalice on Kassadin because I don't see any scenario where i'd build athene's on him, but cata/tear and the items they build are as core on him as they are on Karthus if you know you're against a team that isn't like wood tier.
I'm becoming increasingly convinced that ranked would benefit from having either no trade system or one that's altered in someway. So often I see people try to set up trades to avoid counter picks or whatever and it turns out that the person they're trading with doesn't have the right champion etc. etc.
The trade system could use a buff- maybe clicking on a champion (before locking it in) would light up the trade icon on all the other people on your team that have it.
Namis bubble is hard to land and if you miss welp there goes your lane presence for 10~ seconds. Saving team mates from half a lane away with her ult is the best tho.
Then there was the time I got a blind kill over dragon wall with it that was hilarious.
I just don't understand why her ult exists. It's like if you're terrible and can't land a skill shot, we're going to give you a huge way to mess up the enemy team anyway and then be able to land your stuff for free
Namis bubble is hard to land and if you miss welp there goes your lane presence for 10~ seconds. Saving team mates from half a lane away with her ult is the best tho.
Then there was the time I got a blind kill over dragon wall with it that was hilarious.
I just don't understand why her ult exists. It's like if you're terrible and can't land a skill shot, we're going to give you a huge way to mess up the enemy team anyway and then be able to land your stuff for free
Because it's slow as fuck and easily dodgable except in the middle of a fight. At which point it's just a way of preventing the enemy clustering up.
Also I'm apparently a good Lissandra, considering even in a loss I did the second most damage in the game, killed their uber Caitlyn and all around murdered people.
But then we lost, because Leona failed to Trade with Kog'maw and they fed continually. A fact that would be just a little annoying but is elevated by the fact that Leona insisted we're all passive pussies. Gee leona sorry, yeah, let me just go HAM on that 7/0 Caitlyn you created. I'm sure that's exactly how we can recover from this dis-advantage.
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Namis bubble is hard to land and if you miss welp there goes your lane presence for 10~ seconds. Saving team mates from half a lane away with her ult is the best tho.
Then there was the time I got a blind kill over dragon wall with it that was hilarious.
I just don't understand why her ult exists. It's like if you're terrible and can't land a skill shot, we're going to give you a huge way to mess up the enemy team anyway and then be able to land your stuff for free
Because it's slow as fuck and easily dodgable except in the middle of a fight. At which point it's just a way of preventing the enemy clustering up.
How do I dodge that as Kog'Maw. -_-
No dash, blink, or even run speed. Pretty much just take it in the face every single time.
Namis bubble is hard to land and if you miss welp there goes your lane presence for 10~ seconds. Saving team mates from half a lane away with her ult is the best tho.
Then there was the time I got a blind kill over dragon wall with it that was hilarious.
I just don't understand why her ult exists. It's like if you're terrible and can't land a skill shot, we're going to give you a huge way to mess up the enemy team anyway and then be able to land your stuff for free
Because it's slow as fuck and easily dodgable except in the middle of a fight. At which point it's just a way of preventing the enemy clustering up.
How do I dodge that as Kog'Maw. -_-
No dash, blink, or even run speed. Pretty much just take it in the face every single time.
The solution, as it has always being is to not play Kog'maw unless you're really comfortable with both sides picks or in an organised team.
Also you can position yourself such that she has to pick between waving your team or waving you which is a hard choice for Nami.
Keep in mind I specialize in top lane and always ask for it politely.
First game I get my main champion picked out from under me so I decide to try Aatrox up top. I figure I may lose, but I'll just concentrate on farming and supporting whatever the team wants to do and hope they win their lanes. My team ends up arguing over roles in champ select and somehow I'm asked to jungle instead. I get massively counterjungled by Eve the entire time, with my team not even bothering to help me out or guard my stuff. Every lane loses and they proceed to bitch me out.
Second game I get denied top lane so I graciously pick a support and hope for the best again. Every lane loses after two other people on my team get denied their preferred roles and feed horribly.
Third game three people call for top lane, but I get priority since I was 2nd pick. I finally get to play my champion in top lane! Maybe things are turning around? Nope. One of the other two guys picks Heimerdinger to try to force a dodge (I can't dodge or I lose automatically), and he goes afk and disconnects. GG 4v5.
Series lost!
Next game of course I get top lane even as last pick and we dominate for an easy win. Good times?
Are the other people in your team also up for promotion or do you just get shunted with a group of four others who could care less if somebody on their team needs a win badly?
Are the other people in your team also up for promotion or do you just get shunted with a group of four others who could care less if somebody on their team needs a win badly?
Are the other people in your team also up for promotion or do you just get shunted with a group of four others who could care less if somebody on their team needs a win badly?
They're just normal ranked games. Riot went with this to prevent people winding up waiting forever to be matched into promo games.
Not sure what build they might be running but I do know that Tankaddin is an absolute SOB that jumps into your team, still gibs a carry after some riftwalk stacks, and gets away because he built tank and has that passive.
he built tear > catalyst > merc > roa > chalice
derp derp I have 10,000 mana and no dmg
Catalyst-tear-ROA-Archangel-deathcap is like the most basic of kassadin builds. If you don't build ROA/seraph you really aren't tanky enough to do anything except pubstomp people who don't realize they can just CC and one shot you as soon as you Riftwalk near them.
I wouldn't build a chalice on Kassadin because I don't see any scenario where i'd build athene's on him, but cata/tear and the items they build are as core on him as they are on Karthus if you know you're against a team that isn't like wood tier.
ROA is great on kass
I don't agree that archangel is core -- I'd rather have a deathcap or void staff first and be more careful with my stacked riftwalks
but the build I talked about above meant he was doing shit damage for like 30 minutes and it made me sad
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So I played a bunch of League over the weekend (almost level 29) and I was absolutely horrible. I had one game where I stole blue with Nunu right off the bat, killed their Jungler trying to take my blue and then I completely face planted into Oblivion.
So my general question is do I as a sub par player just need to play incredibly conservatively? I try to buy wards in general, when I jungle I try and help lanes. I'm not at a point where I can really win games on my own from any position (I do my best and last pick my role because holy shit do teams in normal implode because no one will fill the remaining role(s). I noramlly play support or Jungle) so do I just need to hang back and do my best to farm? Should I just play ultra cautiously and hope I don't completley screw over my team? Or do I need to just go all out, do my best and let the chips fall where they may?
I'm going to start ranked at 30 (because I want to, not because I ever expect to be anything but Bronze I) and I'd rather not have every person I play with hate me due to my awfulness so any wisdom you guys could impart on me would be greatly appreciated.
Nami or Leona have become my supports of choice. I used to run Sona, and she's still awesome, but NAMI. In other news, I really wish SGU would come out already. I need proper spiritual bearpunches.
So I played a bunch of League over the weekend (almost level 29) and I was absolutely horrible. I had one game where I stole blue with Nunu right off the bat, killed their Jungler trying to take my blue and then I completely face planted into Oblivion.
So my general question is do I as a sub par player just need to play incredibly conservatively? I try to buy wards in general, when I jungle I try and help lanes. I'm not at a point where I can really win games on my own from any position (I do my best and last pick my role because holy shit do teams in normal implode because no one will fill the remaining role(s). I noramlly play support or Jungle) so do I just need to hang back and do my best to farm? Should I just play ultra cautiously and hope I don't completley screw over my team? Or do I need to just go all out, do my best and let the chips fall where they may?
I'm going to start ranked at 30 (because I want to, not because I ever expect to be anything but Bronze I) and I'd rather not have every person I play with hate me due to my awfulness so any wisdom you guys could impart on me would be greatly appreciated.
if you consistently play passively you will never learn the limits of what you can do
instead, play aggressively and learn what you can and can't get away with
by far the biggest mistake I see lower level players make is failing to punish mistakes because they are too cowardly to do so
So I played a bunch of League over the weekend (almost level 29) and I was absolutely horrible. I had one game where I stole blue with Nunu right off the bat, killed their Jungler trying to take my blue and then I completely face planted into Oblivion.
So my general question is do I as a sub par player just need to play incredibly conservatively? I try to buy wards in general, when I jungle I try and help lanes. I'm not at a point where I can really win games on my own from any position (I do my best and last pick my role because holy shit do teams in normal implode because no one will fill the remaining role(s). I noramlly play support or Jungle) so do I just need to hang back and do my best to farm? Should I just play ultra cautiously and hope I don't completley screw over my team? Or do I need to just go all out, do my best and let the chips fall where they may?
I'm going to start ranked at 30 (because I want to, not because I ever expect to be anything but Bronze I) and I'd rather not have every person I play with hate me due to my awfulness so any wisdom you guys could impart on me would be greatly appreciated.
if you consistently play passively you will never learn the limits of what you can do
instead, play aggressively and learn what you can and can't get away with
by far the biggest mistake I see lower level players make is failing to punish mistakes because they are too cowardly to do so
One problem I have a lot is I know when to go in to punish mistakes, but my micro is really bad so I often flub the combo I'm trying to pull off on the enemy. I'll misclick on a creep, miss a skillshot, miss hotkeys for stuff like ignite; that kind of thing.
I have to have a lot of practice with a champ to pull those combos off consistently.
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She was gold ranked and had a thousand more wins than I did. I am dumbfounded after what I just experienced.
I forgot the rules of ranked:
1) Pick a dumb champion
2) RP as said champion if they were an obnoxious asshole
3) Do so in all caps
4) run them over with your magnificent all caps power.
Also bitches promised me honour. I got none, I can only assume this is because they were in awe of Nami and the coming of the fish/moon empire.
First time I played Nami was during an ARAM and I was all WTF a MERMAID?! THIS GAME.
Then we had a moment. Well actually we had like 16 moments by ourselves and another 20 or so with the other players.
I just never knew it could be so good, sorry Taric
Fish is broken shit man.
Just lost a game. Was fucking hilarious, my team was so bad that underfed Nami out-damaged our Udyr while I basically went around rescuing the shit out of everyone and dying for it.
The All caps made that game much more amusing than it should have being.
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Then there was the time I got a blind kill over dragon wall with it that was hilarious.
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(he also either missed or grabbed renekton every time once laning ended)
Enemy team: Nurse Akali and Hyena WW. WW continue to spam /l wherever he thinks he's outside our immediate reach, Akali occationally doing the same. All the while they spout vile and childish comments. I decide to just ignore chat and use pings exclusively, but 3 of my team start to rise to the insults. I ask them to ignore/put offending players on mute, focus and DON'T get baited.
Nidalee and me poke the enemy team, but the rest keeps trying to "catch" the offending player. Ofc they overextend, usually all alone, fall into the trap and then things fall to pieces.
I mean, yes; I did manage to do 3 eight-legged stomps all over his furry face, punishing him when I gathered he actually was alone. And that felt sooo good to wipe his hyena grin away. But that was only when I saw Nidalee++ had my back, to ensure the kill. I did not rush in, like the others continued to do. Why can't my teammates see that these guys are trolling to the max, particularly after I tell write to them about exactly what they were trying to achieve? Do we just automatically develop an e-honor fetish by playing a MOBA? And so when trolls show up, we suddenly feel like we automatically become mechanically better than the enemy, divinely enabled to smite the evil trolls with ease? And why can't these self-styled E-paladins learn that this behavior is a ruse to make them act unfocused, even on the 3.rd or 10.th go?
Catalyst-tear-ROA-Archangel-deathcap is like the most basic of kassadin builds. If you don't build ROA/seraph you really aren't tanky enough to do anything except pubstomp people who don't realize they can just CC and one shot you as soon as you Riftwalk near them.
I wouldn't build a chalice on Kassadin because I don't see any scenario where i'd build athene's on him, but cata/tear and the items they build are as core on him as they are on Karthus if you know you're against a team that isn't like wood tier.
Just doesn't seem enough time to communicate.
Because it's slow as fuck and easily dodgable except in the middle of a fight. At which point it's just a way of preventing the enemy clustering up.
Also I'm apparently a good Lissandra, considering even in a loss I did the second most damage in the game, killed their uber Caitlyn and all around murdered people.
But then we lost, because Leona failed to Trade with Kog'maw and they fed continually. A fact that would be just a little annoying but is elevated by the fact that Leona insisted we're all passive pussies. Gee leona sorry, yeah, let me just go HAM on that 7/0 Caitlyn you created. I'm sure that's exactly how we can recover from this dis-advantage.
No dash, blink, or even run speed. Pretty much just take it in the face every single time.
The solution, as it has always being is to not play Kog'maw unless you're really comfortable with both sides picks or in an organised team.
Also you can position yourself such that she has to pick between waving your team or waving you which is a hard choice for Nami.
Keep in mind I specialize in top lane and always ask for it politely.
First game I get my main champion picked out from under me so I decide to try Aatrox up top. I figure I may lose, but I'll just concentrate on farming and supporting whatever the team wants to do and hope they win their lanes. My team ends up arguing over roles in champ select and somehow I'm asked to jungle instead. I get massively counterjungled by Eve the entire time, with my team not even bothering to help me out or guard my stuff. Every lane loses and they proceed to bitch me out.
Second game I get denied top lane so I graciously pick a support and hope for the best again. Every lane loses after two other people on my team get denied their preferred roles and feed horribly.
Third game three people call for top lane, but I get priority since I was 2nd pick. I finally get to play my champion in top lane! Maybe things are turning around? Nope. One of the other two guys picks Heimerdinger to try to force a dodge (I can't dodge or I lose automatically), and he goes afk and disconnects. GG 4v5.
Series lost!
Next game of course I get top lane even as last pick and we dominate for an easy win. Good times?
Are the other people in your team also up for promotion or do you just get shunted with a group of four others who could care less if somebody on their team needs a win badly?
THE REVELATION
@Constrictor Who is "your champion"? Curiosity is killing me!
Tronodomor or feed
The latter.
They're just normal ranked games. Riot went with this to prevent people winding up waiting forever to be matched into promo games.
nope
Roles, abilities, etc.!?
ROA is great on kass
I don't agree that archangel is core -- I'd rather have a deathcap or void staff first and be more careful with my stacked riftwalks
but the build I talked about above meant he was doing shit damage for like 30 minutes and it made me sad
So my general question is do I as a sub par player just need to play incredibly conservatively? I try to buy wards in general, when I jungle I try and help lanes. I'm not at a point where I can really win games on my own from any position (I do my best and last pick my role because holy shit do teams in normal implode because no one will fill the remaining role(s). I noramlly play support or Jungle) so do I just need to hang back and do my best to farm? Should I just play ultra cautiously and hope I don't completley screw over my team? Or do I need to just go all out, do my best and let the chips fall where they may?
I'm going to start ranked at 30 (because I want to, not because I ever expect to be anything but Bronze I) and I'd rather not have every person I play with hate me due to my awfulness so any wisdom you guys could impart on me would be greatly appreciated.
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we're not going to learn his kit until he hits pbe, per red posts
Heck people in Diamond get called trash all the time.
I recommend not jumping into ranked until you're comfortable with a selection of characters in every role.
if you consistently play passively you will never learn the limits of what you can do
instead, play aggressively and learn what you can and can't get away with
by far the biggest mistake I see lower level players make is failing to punish mistakes because they are too cowardly to do so
One problem I have a lot is I know when to go in to punish mistakes, but my micro is really bad so I often flub the combo I'm trying to pull off on the enemy. I'll misclick on a creep, miss a skillshot, miss hotkeys for stuff like ignite; that kind of thing.
I have to have a lot of practice with a champ to pull those combos off consistently.