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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Cybertronian Paranormal Eliminator Registered User regular
    edited March 2016
    Prohass wrote: »
    So far everything I can find indicates that its wired only. My xbox one has wired listed as the network setting, and "set up wireless connection" is an option, so I havent even set it up. Im new to windows 10 but it looks like its wired also

    Thanks for the help but I think it must be some obscure problem with my relatively older PC

    Whoops, missed part of your sentence. Does your PC have wireless at all?

    Also, are there any other devices on the network?

    EDIT: Dumb question, but have you updated the app in Windows 10 recently?

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  • DirtyDirty Registered User regular
    Just a quick question. Are sales pretty much Gold-only, or is it like on PSN where the sale is for everyone, but paid members get a bigger discount?

  • MulletudeMulletude Registered User regular
    They have 'deals with gold' but also publisher sales that don't seem bound to Gold.

    XBL-Dug Danger WiiU-DugDanger Steam-http://steamcommunity.com/id/DugDanger/
  • ProhassProhass Registered User regular
    Prohass wrote: »
    So far everything I can find indicates that its wired only. My xbox one has wired listed as the network setting, and "set up wireless connection" is an option, so I havent even set it up. Im new to windows 10 but it looks like its wired also

    Thanks for the help but I think it must be some obscure problem with my relatively older PC

    Whoops, missed part of your sentence. Does your PC have wireless at all?

    Also, are there any other devices on the network?

    EDIT: Dumb question, but have you updated the app in Windows 10 recently?

    I got it to work!!!! Thanks so much for trying to help, im almost embarressed to say what it was

    ...the resolution. I lowered my comps resolution and it works. I think the higher desktop resolution was messing with the stream or something? Its still got a tiny delay with the controller, which is connected to my xbox, but its playable and theres no artefacting on the scree

  • SirialisSirialis of the Halite Throne. Registered User regular
    edited March 2016
    Tracking achievements sounds interesting, I dont really see why it should be a part of the Xbox One Guide though, why not just put it into "Achievements"?

    I'm still waiting for the ability to delete those 0g games on my list as a priority though... (because my OCD demands it) And the ability to take English as language because Microsoft is butchering my language. (I guess that added focus on Europe didnt amount to much yet.)

    Sirialis on
  • OptyOpty Registered User regular
    Prohass wrote: »
    Prohass wrote: »
    So far everything I can find indicates that its wired only. My xbox one has wired listed as the network setting, and "set up wireless connection" is an option, so I havent even set it up. Im new to windows 10 but it looks like its wired also

    Thanks for the help but I think it must be some obscure problem with my relatively older PC

    Whoops, missed part of your sentence. Does your PC have wireless at all?

    Also, are there any other devices on the network?

    EDIT: Dumb question, but have you updated the app in Windows 10 recently?

    I got it to work!!!! Thanks so much for trying to help, im almost embarressed to say what it was

    ...the resolution. I lowered my comps resolution and it works. I think the higher desktop resolution was messing with the stream or something? Its still got a tiny delay with the controller, which is connected to my xbox, but its playable and theres no artefacting on the scree

    What resolution were you using beforehand? I would think they'd do a better job of upscaling to whatever your desktop resolution is so changing it isn't needed.

  • ProhassProhass Registered User regular
    edited March 2016
    I was using 1900x1200, i turned it down randomly to like 1200x900 or something like that, ill be testing out a few of them to see which is the best

    It might be that my comp just doesnt have the ram or graphics card to run streaming at that res properly (its about 9 years old), even with upscaling. I dunno, all I know is that at 1900x1200 i was getting massive pixel blotches and eventual freezes, and now im not

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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Cybertronian Paranormal Eliminator Registered User regular
    Oh yeah, if your machine is nearly nine years old, that could definitely cause issues, depending on how powerful it was when you first got it. Sorry, when you said old I figured like five years or so. :biggrin:

    Make sure your video card drivers are up to date, and try quitting any unnecassary programs while you stream.

  • ProhassProhass Registered User regular
    gah now it keeps saying "another player is using this profile" or something. Playing Diablo.

  • BRIAN BLESSEDBRIAN BLESSED Maybe you aren't SPEAKING LOUDLY ENOUGHHH Registered User regular
    That sounds like a good tip to sticky - was it a matter of matching the computer to the TV's resolution (1080p), or were you just attempting to stream a crazy resolution like 1440p?

  • Zilla360Zilla360 21st Century. |She/Her| Trans* Woman In Aviators Firing A Bazooka. ⚛️Registered User regular
    Whoa. Just caught up on the news... Gabe and Tycho have it right:
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    The x-mega-stack-o-tron!
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    So we can probably expect a new extensible XB1 form-factor to be announced at E3, then, I'm guessing.

  • SeidkonaSeidkona Had an upgrade Registered User regular
    edited March 2016
    The Sherlock Holmes game on GWG is pretty great. I'm still on the first case but I really like it.

    It's nice to not have a game hold your hand. You can completely fail and send the wrong person to jail and it's glorious.

    Seidkona on
    Mostly just huntin' monsters.
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  • SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    Zilla360 wrote: »
    So we can probably expect a new extensible XB1 form-factor to be announced at E3, then, I'm guessing.

    Yes, but I don't think it's going to be a hardware upgrade--if anything, it'll be a new design (that's cheaper to produce and probably more power efficient). I don't think we're going to see an actual hardware expansion or upgrade option--like on the N64, PS2, Gamecube, etc.--until after DirectX 12 and possible the first pass of Windows 10 integration.

    That's just my theory though.

    Plus, it's Tycho and Gabe. They tend to assume the worse, not without reason, and that's twice for the Xbox One. Makes for better comedy.

  • tastydonutstastydonuts Registered User regular
    Entaru wrote: »
    The Shelock Holmes game on GWG is pretty great. I'm still on the first case but I really like it.

    Its nice to not have a game hold your hand. You can completely fail and send the wrong person to jail and it's glorious.

    Is it a third, first or combined perspective game? The screens alternate and I couldn't tell.

    “I used to draw, hard to admit that I used to draw...”
  • SeidkonaSeidkona Had an upgrade Registered User regular
    edited March 2016
    Entaru wrote: »
    The Shelock Holmes game on GWG is pretty great. I'm still on the first case but I really like it.

    Its nice to not have a game hold your hand. You can completely fail and send the wrong person to jail and it's glorious.

    Is it a third, first or combined perspective game? The screens alternate and I couldn't tell.

    It switches between third and first depending on whether you are moving (third) or examining areas and objects (first).

    Seidkona on
    Mostly just huntin' monsters.
    XBL:Phenyhelm - 3DS:Phenyhelm
  • LostNinjaLostNinja Registered User regular
    edited March 2016
    Synthesis wrote: »
    Zilla360 wrote: »
    So we can probably expect a new extensible XB1 form-factor to be announced at E3, then, I'm guessing.

    Yes, but I don't think it's going to be a hardware upgrade--if anything, it'll be a new design (that's cheaper to produce and probably more power efficient). I don't think we're going to see an actual hardware expansion or upgrade option--like on the N64, PS2, Gamecube, etc.--until after DirectX 12 and possible the first pass of Windows 10 integration.

    That's just my theory though.

    Plus, it's Tycho and Gabe. They tend to assume the worse, not without reason, and that's twice for the Xbox One. Makes for better comedy.

    I'm a little surprised this gens consoles weren't designed with easy upgradeable in mind, sort of like steam machines, only just don't Sony or Microsoft would be making selling the upgrades. Doing that, but ensureing that all games are still designed to play perfectly well on the base model seems like it would be a good idea.

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  • Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    Remember that time Nintendo released the Expansion Pak and bundled it with DK64?
    Remember when Microsoft released the 360 with upgradable HDDs?
    Remember when- you get the point
    I think it is entirely likely. These consoles have another 5-8 years left in this cycle. Right now, Xbox is underperforming based on a shitty launch and the perception that it is the weaker machine. If they do release a version with more RAM or SSDs, I would definitely be interested. Imagine if two years from now we have the XB2, NX and PS4 all pretty much on par with each other.

  • SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    edited March 2016
    Remember the time when Microsoft redesigned the Xbox 360's processors enough that certain games weren't playable on older consoles, because the lifespan was so long?

    No, because that didn't happen--that's what Nintendo did with the New 3DS (still an awful name). It's doable, but it poses some problems--I doubt Microsoft wants to contend with potentially cutting off part of the audience from major releases, sooner rather than later.

    After all, the PS4 is also unfortunately underpowered by the same criteria the Xbox One is judged by (PC performance). And Sony issuing a model with an SSD inside of it only fixes the complaint about load times. Microsoft is part way there with the "hybrid" arrangement inside one bundle. Sony may do the same. Importantly, these upgrades, while desirable, do not potentially divide up the base (a divisive issue when Microsoft decided to follow Sony's lead and drop the Kinect the way Sony quietly buried the Playstation Eye).

    There are reasons for the move, but would it improve Xbox One sales? I doubt it.

    A cheaper, more efficient hardware revision? Very, very likely. Microsoft's at a similar point to Sony was with the Playstation 3 around 2006, when it became apparent that no one wanted a giant, grill-looking monster with the Spiderman font (and that backwards compatibility wasn't doing them any favors--a uniquely Sony position). Put out a smaller, less-power-hungry console, consider Sony's use of replaceable hard drives (though that's a more complicated option than just supporting external drives), generate some buzz about the new hardware (they did an excellent job of that when the Xbox 360 S was announced, though that console was obviously in a very different position compared to Sony). Even put in the necessary hardware for expansions like the Nintendo 64, the Playstation 2's hard drive, etc., even if they aren't going to be used immediately.

    Substantial hardware upgrades before that, though? It's more difficult and risky. But that's just my speculation.

    Plus, at least one hardware revision that doesn't change performance substantially seems inevitable.

    Synthesis on
  • Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    Synthesis wrote: »
    Remember the time when Microsoft redesigned the Xbox 360's processors enough that certain games weren't playable on older consoles, because the lifespan was so long?

    No, because that didn't happen--that's what Nintendo did with the New 3DS (still an awful name). It's doable, but it poses some problems--I doubt Microsoft wants to contend with potentially cutting off part of the audience from major releases.

    After all, the PS4 is also unfortunately underpowered by the same criteria the Xbox One is judged by (PC performance). And Sony issuing a model with an SSD inside of it only fixes the complaint about load times. Microsoft is part way there with the "hybrid" arrangement inside one bundle. Sony may do the same. Importantly, these upgrades, while desirable, do not divide up the base (a divisive issue when Microsoft decided to follow Sony's lead and drop the Kinect the way Sony quietly buried the Playstation Eye).

    There are reasons for the move, but would it improve Xbox One sales? I doubt it.
    Well, anyone who wanted to play a game like GTA V or anything more than 15gb were forced to buy a bigger hard drive. And I know plenty of people, myself included, who just bought a new slim when it was released.

    Similarly, they just sold out of a niche $150 controller, proving the demand for more high-end experiences in console. They will go where the money is. If it means eventually being able to synch my Steam library, or Holodeck integration, I can see people forking over more.

  • SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    Synthesis wrote: »
    Remember the time when Microsoft redesigned the Xbox 360's processors enough that certain games weren't playable on older consoles, because the lifespan was so long?

    No, because that didn't happen--that's what Nintendo did with the New 3DS (still an awful name). It's doable, but it poses some problems--I doubt Microsoft wants to contend with potentially cutting off part of the audience from major releases.

    After all, the PS4 is also unfortunately underpowered by the same criteria the Xbox One is judged by (PC performance). And Sony issuing a model with an SSD inside of it only fixes the complaint about load times. Microsoft is part way there with the "hybrid" arrangement inside one bundle. Sony may do the same. Importantly, these upgrades, while desirable, do not divide up the base (a divisive issue when Microsoft decided to follow Sony's lead and drop the Kinect the way Sony quietly buried the Playstation Eye).

    There are reasons for the move, but would it improve Xbox One sales? I doubt it.
    Well, anyone who wanted to play a game like GTA V or anything more than 15gb were forced to buy a bigger hard drive. And I know plenty of people, myself included, who just bought a new slim when it was released.

    Similarly, they just sold out of a niche $150 controller, proving the demand for more high-end experiences in console. They will go where the money is. If it means eventually being able to synch my Steam library, or Holodeck integration, I can see people forking over more.

    I got a Xbox 360 S as well soon after launch--it's a very safe option because introducing it doesn't cast the appearance that people of the older hardware model are at any lost, while giving those who want the change an opportunity to do so. If the later Xbox One has a small upgrade that's barely noticeable, that'll be safe too (and in effect, the power difference between the Xbox One and PS4 is minuscule compared to, well, the original Xbox and the Playstation 2). A large jump is riskier.

    Plus, GTA V came out almost eight years after the console did--in effect Sony did Microsoft a favor for taking the heat for introducing mandatory installations on their console several years later (and there are still people who are bitter about it being a thing--part of the argument that consoles have inherited some of PC gaming's more tedious qualities).

    As for "Going where the money is..."--that seems rather vague and meaningless, no offense. If that's the case, why aren't they following Sony's lead and charging people to repurchase their Xbox 360 libraries on XB1? Because you can be absolutely sure there is more money there (as well as a no shortage of controversy) than the course they took.

    Of course Microsoft's trying to make a profit, I'm sure any hardware revision, whether or not it includes Steam support or whatever crap they can throw in, will cost a good bit more than the preceding hardware even if it offers no significant performance boost. That's a safe, noncontroversial thing to do.

  • Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    They've been playing catch-up from day one with XB1. The BC program is a way to win back the huge audience of people with 360 libraries.

    What I mean by going to the money is obvious; they are trying to cater to the 'hardcore' gamer by offering more expensive, niche options. Releasing a beefed up Xbox doesn't mean people stop development on Xbox 1 titles. But just like people paying more for Hard drive space, and fancy controllers, people I think would be excited about a more capable version of the hardware. Similar to how some 360 games run better in BC, games currently on XB1 that struggle with framerate and resolutions could take advantage.

    Yes, they likely won't do anything that drastic, but I would happily plop down an extra hundred dollars or two for something like that.

  • SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    edited March 2016
    Yes, they likely won't do anything that drastic, but I would happily plop down an extra hundred dollars or two for something like that.

    Then we're in agreement--I don't think it's coming next E3 (my original point), and I wouldn't expect any major hardware improvements at that point (except for moving towards a more efficient revision for the same performance). And we've established that Microsoft isn't solely driven by "where the money is" so much as engendering good will among its existing base. So they'll move more carefully, I think.

    If you're willing to put down, for example, $400 for an improved console (the most immediate option--considering it would be a new unit in effect, that's a reasonable price), more power to you, of course. I don't think you'll have the opportunity until some time later into the lifespan.

    Synthesis on
  • dporowskidporowski Registered User regular
    The example used in the interviews is the PS VR thing, which comes with a box with processing in it. I don't think anything is likely to happen with the hardware at this moment, but the general statement that consoles will become expandable in the same manner as PCs is, I think, potentially valid, as long as such expansion is as easy/on the level of the 360 HDD swap.

  • SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    dporowski wrote: »
    The example used in the interviews is the PS VR thing, which comes with a box with processing in it. I don't think anything is likely to happen with the hardware at this moment, but the general statement that consoles will become expandable in the same manner as PCs is, I think, potentially valid, as long as such expansion is as easy/on the level of the 360 HDD swap.

    PS VR will definitely be an informative example--since it's invariably required to use the same sort of interface that's available on an Xbox One (USB 3.0), as far as I can tell. It's annoying that Sony's been kind of...coy....about what the hardware itself does (to my knowledge, they've only given the resolution--960x1080 per eye, with a goal of 120 fps), so it's hard to compare. Given that both consoles have been able to use smart ways to scale visual fidelity for smoother performance and consistent framerates, my theory is that it's not a huge addition to processing power, but that's just a theory.

    Phil Spencer's speculation was also very open ended too, so it could be something equally modest at first. That's why I think hitting the upper goal of what he's suggested would take some serious reevaluation of the hardware.

    It's a hard thing for consoles. Nintendo's been in this game longer than anyone--the SNES, N64, and Gamecube all featured expansion slots built into the underside of the hardware, but from what I understand, the Gamecube was the only one to actually use them (and that was a modem for two games from Phantasy Star Online).

  • Zilla360Zilla360 21st Century. |She/Her| Trans* Woman In Aviators Firing A Bazooka. ⚛️Registered User regular
    Synthesis wrote: »
    It's a hard thing for consoles. Nintendo's been in this game longer than anyone--the SNES, N64, and Gamecube all featured expansion slots built into the underside of the hardware, but from what I understand, the Gamecube was the only one to actually use them (and that was a modem for two games from Phantasy Star Online).
    Actually the boot ROM for the SNES CD was recently discovered, which may make the SNES CD actually usable:
    http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2015/07/fabled-sony-nintendo-play-station-prototype-discovered/

    And don't forget the N64's disk drive, which was, sadly, only released in Japan.

  • SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    edited March 2016
    Zilla360 wrote: »
    Synthesis wrote: »
    It's a hard thing for consoles. Nintendo's been in this game longer than anyone--the SNES, N64, and Gamecube all featured expansion slots built into the underside of the hardware, but from what I understand, the Gamecube was the only one to actually use them (and that was a modem for two games from Phantasy Star Online).
    Actually the boot ROM for the SNES CD was recently discovered, which may make the SNES CD actually usable:
    http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2015/07/fabled-sony-nintendo-play-station-prototype-discovered/

    And don't forget the N64's disk drive, which was, sadly, only released in Japan.

    From what I've heard, the N64's magnetic (?) drive also had a total of eleven units sold.

    Not exactly gleaming examples of success. You can see why even compared to the disappointment that was the Gamecube modem, those aren't readily brought up.

    EDIT: Nope, that was titles, not units. It actually sold 15,000 units--but that meant out of initial run, 85,000 got scrapped, according to Wikipedia. Those are basically "Xbox in Japan" numbers, with more stuff ending up in recycling bins.

    Synthesis on
  • Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    On the N64, the Expansion Pak added 4mb of RAM and was needed to play DK64 and Majora's Mask, two of the best titles on the system. It also sharpened effects in RE2, Perfect Dark, and Quake II. In some games it even increased the resolution it ran in.

    The expansion bay on the GameCube also enabled the Gameboy Player to hook onto it, which let you play GBA, GBC and GB games on it.

    The SNES also had a short lived modem add-on, usable with Starfox in Japan.

  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Cybertronian Paranormal Eliminator Registered User regular
    edited March 2016
    Wasn't Zelda a disk-based game in Japan, for the Famicom disk drive.

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  • DirtyDirty Registered User regular
    So I got my XBox One set up. Even hooked the cable box to it and set it up with my Harmony Remote. When I'm just watching TV, you can't even tell the XBox is part of the equation. I definitely like that my cloud saves aren't tied to a subscription like on PS. I was able to re-download a bunch of 360 games and pick up where I left off when I got rid of that console.

    ... needed to play DK64 and Majora's Mask, two of the best titles on the system.
    I think you might be thinking of a different game.

  • SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    Dirty wrote: »
    So I got my XBox One set up. Even hooked the cable box to it and set it up with my Harmony Remote. When I'm just watching TV, you can't even tell the XBox is part of the equation. I definitely like that my cloud saves aren't tied to a subscription like on PS. I was able to re-download a bunch of 360 games and pick up where I left off when I got rid of that console.

    I think Sony changed up their policy recently, but for a long time, PSN cloud saving was hilariously limited as well (I think to 1 GB).

  • Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    Dirty wrote: »
    So I got my XBox One set up. Even hooked the cable box to it and set it up with my Harmony Remote. When I'm just watching TV, you can't even tell the XBox is part of the equation. I definitely like that my cloud saves aren't tied to a subscription like on PS. I was able to re-download a bunch of 360 games and pick up where I left off when I got rid of that console.

    ... needed to play DK64 and Majora's Mask, two of the best titles on the system.
    I think you might be thinking of a different game.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donkey_Kong_64
    Donkey Kong 64 was one of only three Nintendo 64 games to require the Expansion Pak (the others being The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask and Perfect Dark),[3] which provides 4 MB more RAM for enhanced graphics and more expansive environments,[4] as well as to fix a game-breaking bug.

  • SirialisSirialis of the Halite Throne. Registered User regular
    edited March 2016
    I still have that Donkey Kong 64 and my N64 somewhere in storage and it was indeed the game where you got the 4MB red little RAM thingy from.

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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Cybertronian Paranormal Eliminator Registered User regular
    I think he's taking umbrage with the "best games on the system" comment.

  • Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    Oh, well that's subjective. I played that game like crazy when I was 12.

  • ProhassProhass Registered User regular
    Are there any plans to make Bulletstorm bc? That was probably my favourite game of last gen

  • Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    Prohass wrote: »
    Are there any plans to make Bulletstorm bc? That was probably my favourite game of last gen

    Maybe? Epic did do a port for PC. The main thing I would imagine they prioritize are games voted up through the support site, and bestsellers. I don't think Bulletstorm fits the bill, but it would likely be easy to port since they've done all of the Gears titles already.

  • anoffdayanoffday To be changed whenever Anoffday gets around to it. Registered User regular
    Prohass wrote: »
    Are there any plans to make Bulletstorm bc? That was probably my favourite game of last gen

    That's EA, right?

    I need dead space 1-3 on there too. Pleeasssee.

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  • darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    anoffday wrote: »
    Prohass wrote: »
    Are there any plans to make Bulletstorm bc? That was probably my favourite game of last gen

    That's EA, right?

    I need dead space 1-3 on there too. Pleeasssee.

    I'd settle for 1 and 2, but yes.

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  • SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    It's all extremely early to say, but frankly, I'm a lot more interested in Phil Spencer pushing the idea that backwards compatibility will be an easily accomplish-able feat, the norm, rather than the exception for the Xbox brand in the future--an idea he naturally seemed a lot more confident about than what hardware revisions might come down the line.

    That area is where my highest praise for Nintendo's console go--they've been pretty consistently able to deliver that in the last 3 consoles (I'm pretty sure). Xbox doing the same? Yes please.

  • darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    Synthesis wrote: »
    It's all extremely early to say, but frankly, I'm a lot more interested in Phil Spencer pushing the idea that backwards compatibility will be an easily accomplish-able feat, the norm, rather than the exception for the Xbox brand in the future--an idea he naturally seemed a lot more confident about than what hardware revisions might come down the line.

    That area is where my highest praise for Nintendo's console go--they've been pretty consistently able to deliver that in the last 3 consoles (I'm pretty sure). Xbox doing the same? Yes please.

    It's a pretty effective selling-point versus the PS4, so it'd be worth their while to keep needling it. Especially how they're using it to bulk out Games with Gold, so it's not even that you need to go and buy old 360 games if you want more stuff to play, they're giving two of them to you every month.

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