That could be good or bad. Most of the 2099 line was style over substance, even when Ellis was writing, with Doom 2099 probably the best of the lot and Hulk 2099 and Ravage 2099 somewhere near the bottom, but it would be interesting to have a genuine Marvel cyberpunk future addressed again, especially if the creators were given a free hand.
I almost had the complete 2099 series. I was missing about 10 comics. But then I had to sell my comics for lawyer money.
I wish there was an affordable digital comic book viewing plan. I'd pay $20 a month to be able to freely read any comics older than 2 years.
Just finished Infinity #4 and I got to say, 22 pages it too short.
The stuff on Earth is interesting; setting up Thane as a good guy (and a good looking dude prior to Terragenisis). Watching Black Bot just get worked over by Thanos was great: (I told you guys Thanos would win that fight. ). No appearance by the Illuminati though, I guess they're dealing with an Incursion.
The stuff on space was a lot of work for what was ultimately was the payoff.
Ultimately, this felt like a filler episode, not a lot happened that wasn't filling in the blanks from last issues, or spinning the wheels for next issue. 22 Pages is too damn short, especially for the two side-by-side stories.
Holy shit Thor might be the most badass I have ever seen in this issue.
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TexiKenDammit!That fish really got me!Registered Userregular
I liked Infinity #4 but I really never want to see the Avengers talk about honor and stuff or playing guilt trips of decency on others after that, even if in this case it was a matter of saving the galaxy (which is like 50% of all their battles)
the mjolnir sun slingshot to hole in body is a cool visual, but then squashing the dude's head? You could have just had Thor snap the builder's neck or something, they were never made to be this super adamantium type being with how they've been presented.
It just kind of sits weird. Make this a rational change in how the Avengers operate, as though it will lead to something, ok. But I doubt we'll see that. I just see people who lied to kill one builder and I don't really know how this makes anything less different than in issue #3, because I doubt Cap knows about the Ex Nihli turning on the Builders yet.
Thane's appearance seemed a bit too Weapon Omega/Xorn from New Avengers
Keep in mind that the builder flat out said "We are going to destroy Earth and wipe all of humanity, because we don't like you." I imagine if they offered reasonable terms, the dude may not have gotten a hammer through the torso.
Also, Thor is a Viking god with the most powerful hammer in the universe and you want him to snap a neck? Who do you think he is? Superman?
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TexiKenDammit!That fish really got me!Registered Userregular
Right, and in the sense of this series it makes sense, but you step back a bit and
it's something I'd expect from Iron Man, USAgent, Spock, Wolverine and Cyclops or the other heroes who haven't set themselves up on that pedestal. But to come from Cap, that's why I say this better be the start of something new for him.
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WeaverWho are you?What do you want?Registered Userregular
Right, and in the sense of this series it makes sense, but you step back a bit and
it's something I'd expect from Iron Man, USAgent, Spock, Wolverine and Cyclops or the other heroes who haven't set themselves up on that pedestal. But to come from Cap, that's why I say this better be the start of something new for him.
Cap is still pretty grumpy from spending ten years in dimension z
I liked Infinity #4 but I really never want to see the Avengers talk about honor and stuff or playing guilt trips of decency on others after that, even if in this case it was a matter of saving the galaxy (which is like 50% of all their battles)
the mjolnir sun slingshot to hole in body is a cool visual, but then squashing the dude's head? You could have just had Thor snap the builder's neck or something, they were never made to be this super adamantium type being with how they've been presented.
It just kind of sits weird. Make this a rational change in how the Avengers operate, as though it will lead to something, ok. But I doubt we'll see that. I just see people who lied to kill one builder and I don't really know how this makes anything less different than in issue #3, because I doubt Cap knows about the Ex Nihli turning on the Builders yet.
Thane's appearance seemed a bit too Weapon Omega/Xorn from New Avengers
There's been a solid throughline for the last few years that Captain America is a far different, scarier character when he's at war. Like, he'll kill you any way he can when he's in battle mode.
Right, and in the sense of this series it makes sense, but you step back a bit and
it's something I'd expect from Iron Man, USAgent, Spock, Wolverine and Cyclops or the other heroes who haven't set themselves up on that pedestal. But to come from Cap, that's why I say this better be the start of something new for him.
Post-Dimension Z Cap is a different dude than the Cap you're used to. Everything in Marvel Now involving Cap makes sense now.
Right, and in the sense of this series it makes sense, but you step back a bit and
it's something I'd expect from Iron Man, USAgent, Spock, Wolverine and Cyclops or the other heroes who haven't set themselves up on that pedestal. But to come from Cap, that's why I say this better be the start of something new for him.
Post-Dimension Z Cap is a different dude than the Cap you're used to. Everything in Marvel Now involving Cap makes sense now.
So you're saying Hickman actually incorporated character progression from a singles title into his massive event story?
If that doesn't prove Hickman isn't one of the best writers working today I don't know what else will.
Right, and in the sense of this series it makes sense, but you step back a bit and
it's something I'd expect from Iron Man, USAgent, Spock, Wolverine and Cyclops or the other heroes who haven't set themselves up on that pedestal. But to come from Cap, that's why I say this better be the start of something new for him.
Post-Dimension Z Cap is a different dude than the Cap you're used to. Everything in Marvel Now involving Cap makes sense now.
So you're saying Hickman actually incorporated character progression from a singles title into his massive event story?
If that doesn't prove Hickman isn't one of the best writers working today I don't know what else will.
I wonder if the impetus for the Dimension Z story-line and shift in Cap's character was an attempt to get him away from the Superman morality. For years Cap was the guy on Avengers who was adamant that killing was not an option. For a character like Superman who's the subject of endless Christ analogies, that makes sense. For a guy that actively fought in WWII, it's a little off.
I get that an aversion to killing makes sense in some respects - it's a means of last resort, it's an attempt to avoid circumventing the rule of law by being judge, jury and executioner, etc. When Cap's foiling Batroc's latest caper, it makes sense. But, it doesn't really fly in the face of life or death mega-conflicts like Fear Itself, Secret Invasion, or Infinity.
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TexiKenDammit!That fish really got me!Registered Userregular
Read Avengers #21 first before New Avengers #11.
Avengers #21
Annihilation wave unleashed, nothing but a thing to the builders, who easily defeat them. Captain Universe wakes up, kills all the builders but one that flees to another universe, who in turn make the alephs go on complete destroy mode. Ronan took a hammer and broke the Supreme Intelligence's bubble because he was being a prickly peter.
So in the end it all came down to Captain Universe, which is kind of, eh. You still have a few more issues to make it not be such a snap of the fingers.
New Avengers #11 (Deodato draws Lockjaw like a Guinea Pig, for reals, yo)
Thanos finds the Necropolis where Black Swan and other Terrax are sitting, but doesn't free them. They do find all the antimatter bombs that were being made to blow up other earths.
The NA meet an aleph from the builders of another universe who actually traveled between all universes looking to stop what's happening (they have red ex nihili which reached into Strange's head and removed that doubt demon magic thing Ebony Maw put in), and suggest that all earths must be destroyed to fix everything. They bail out the NA by blowing up the other earth but Reed says yeah, he'd blow up the earth to save everything.
Outside of yet another thing bailing out the NA in planet sploding it was really good, but you see how everything they've done is going to bite them in the butt now. Lockjaw will save the day.
OK I'm glad I didn't buy the third Hickman Avengers hardcover because according to Amazon the giant Infinity collection out early next year will have issues 12 through 23 of that series and volume 3 has 12 through 17. Right now I have New Avengers volume 1 and Avengers volume 2, just need to get volume 1. I'm not bothering with the other Infinity tie-ins.
I'M NOT FINISHED WITH YOU!!!
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TexiKenDammit!That fish really got me!Registered Userregular
My spidey sense is tingling about two people Hickman might kill off, because they've been making page time just enough in that Bill Foster mold that they're the offerings to big events:
Lockjaw and Eden.
More Lockjaw, because he's really shown up a bit and when he woofs you take notice.
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UnbrokenEvaHIGH ON THE WIREBUT I WON'T TRIP ITRegistered Userregular
My spidey sense is tingling about two people Hickman might kill off, because they've been making page time just enough in that Bill Foster mold that they're the offerings to big events:
Lockjaw and Eden.
More Lockjaw, because he's really shown up a bit and when he woofs you take notice.
I'm honestly not so sure anybody is going to die. That doesn't seem like Hickman's way.
I think the story is just about cementing the Earth's place in the galactic scheme of things, cementing Earth as a leader in the galaxy as it were instead of as the "back water" it's often referred to as.
The solicit for Avengers 25 says that "they have been so good so fsr but an Avenger finally dies" or something similar so I doubt anyone bites it in Infinity
So we're still three issues from the end, but does it feel like this event is going SUPER slow? Like, as an aggregate a lot of stuff has happened over the last 14 or so issues, but it doesn't feel like 14 issues worth of stuff has happened.
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TexiKenDammit!That fish really got me!Registered Userregular
They're glossed over the fights an awful lot despite having three books to put that in. Instead of pages of talking on a ship they could have had pages of talking while fighting with the horsepeople. We didn't even see BP beat up that Drago guy, or his sister fight Super-Gamora in any meaningful way.
I think it's been paced pretty well because the tie-ins help out a lot each month. The worse part to me has actually been the Thanos stuff.
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presumably one arm is life and one is death
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He's stuck in his death form. On Genosha or something.
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now, Thane looks like a champ of a dude
he should team up with Genesis and be "team nurture"
You know. I bet that in the next couple of years we're going to see a revival of the 2099 line.
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The stuff on space was a lot of work for what was ultimately was the payoff.
Ultimately, this felt like a filler episode, not a lot happened that wasn't filling in the blanks from last issues, or spinning the wheels for next issue. 22 Pages is too damn short, especially for the two side-by-side stories.
It just kind of sits weird. Make this a rational change in how the Avengers operate, as though it will lead to something, ok. But I doubt we'll see that. I just see people who lied to kill one builder and I don't really know how this makes anything less different than in issue #3, because I doubt Cap knows about the Ex Nihli turning on the Builders yet.
Thane's appearance seemed a bit too Weapon Omega/Xorn from New Avengers
Also, Thor is a Viking god with the most powerful hammer in the universe and you want him to snap a neck? Who do you think he is? Superman?
Post-Dimension Z Cap is a different dude than the Cap you're used to. Everything in Marvel Now involving Cap makes sense now.
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I write about video games and stuff. It is fun. Sometimes.
So you're saying Hickman actually incorporated character progression from a singles title into his massive event story?
If that doesn't prove Hickman isn't one of the best writers working today I don't know what else will.
Well that's kind of unavoidable to ignore.
I wonder if the impetus for the Dimension Z story-line and shift in Cap's character was an attempt to get him away from the Superman morality. For years Cap was the guy on Avengers who was adamant that killing was not an option. For a character like Superman who's the subject of endless Christ analogies, that makes sense. For a guy that actively fought in WWII, it's a little off.
I get that an aversion to killing makes sense in some respects - it's a means of last resort, it's an attempt to avoid circumventing the rule of law by being judge, jury and executioner, etc. When Cap's foiling Batroc's latest caper, it makes sense. But, it doesn't really fly in the face of life or death mega-conflicts like Fear Itself, Secret Invasion, or Infinity.
Avengers #21
So in the end it all came down to Captain Universe, which is kind of, eh. You still have a few more issues to make it not be such a snap of the fingers.
New Avengers #11 (Deodato draws Lockjaw like a Guinea Pig, for reals, yo)
The NA meet an aleph from the builders of another universe who actually traveled between all universes looking to stop what's happening (they have red ex nihili which reached into Strange's head and removed that doubt demon magic thing Ebony Maw put in), and suggest that all earths must be destroyed to fix everything. They bail out the NA by blowing up the other earth but Reed says yeah, he'd blow up the earth to save everything.
Outside of yet another thing bailing out the NA in planet sploding it was really good, but you see how everything they've done is going to bite them in the butt now. Lockjaw will save the day.
More Lockjaw, because he's really shown up a bit and when he woofs you take notice.
the hell you say
he damn well better not
I think the story is just about cementing the Earth's place in the galactic scheme of things, cementing Earth as a leader in the galaxy as it were instead of as the "back water" it's often referred to as.
I think it's been paced pretty well because the tie-ins help out a lot each month. The worse part to me has actually been the Thanos stuff.