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Pacific Rim Sequel: This March Holy Shit it Happened

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  • evilthecatevilthecat Registered User regular
    Not as good as the first one.
    The story is, well, let's be honest, we're not there for the story.
    If you saw the first one, then you've seen the second one (including most of the jokes).

    Most people will be going for the robot vs monster fights, and those:
    Just aren't as well done.
    Optically, everything is where it should be. Stuff looks great. Even better than the first.
    Most of the time though the Jägers lack the weight they had in the first one.
    It feels like cheap plastic is being thrown around (despite buildings toppling, which is really weird).

    The biggest disappointment for me is the poor showing of the Jägers.
    You had some media hype surrounding the robots, the Jägers are teased early on in the movie proper, but when they actually make their screen appearance, it's very short and rather flimsy.
    I don't want to spoil anything, but the "swarm" "event" near the end of the movie is particularly jarring.

    You could wait for this to appear on netflix, is not a must-see-in-cinema.

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  • TNTrooperTNTrooper Registered User regular
    Saw it earlier today. This was not the movie the trailers were advertising for. Which is a good thing cause I am pretty sure whoever made the trailers never watched the first one and just saw giant mecha and tried to channel his inner Michael Bay.

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  • MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    That's pretty disappointing.

    I really liked the first, despite me usually bring a nitpicky jerk. PR moved fast enough and was earnest enough that "analog", etc. didn't matter.

  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    Overall an enjoyable time at the theater. Boyega was fantastic as Jake, who was a vastly intriguing protagonist than Raleigh "Blank Slate" Beckett, and a surprising new find in Cailee Spaeny (who was teen genius Amara Namani). Both filled out their own roles, were entertaining as they discovered their niches within the universe and had excellent chemistry. The CGI and action were slightly below par from the original, lacking the weight of del Toro's designs. I'm all in for the next one they set up. The world building was a delight, and that was an edge over the last movie - this one felt complex and disjointed in in how a semi-real world would function with a war against giant monsters, and once again I loved how this movie human focus was on China rather than the usual American centric structure.
    The only thing I didn't like as how Mako Mori was sidelined to a cameo, she only had a scene or two exploring her position as the leader post-Stacker's death and her relationship with her baby brother before dying. I'd have watched a film with her as the protagonist in a heartbeat. In the first film she and Stacker were the best characters.

  • ZephiranZephiran Registered User regular
    You gotta admit the easter egg was neat.
    GUNDAM

    Alright and in this next scene all the animals have AIDS.

    I got a little excited when I saw your ship.
  • AphostileAphostile San Francisco, CARegistered User regular
    It was super dumb, but I had fun watching it. I liked the first one better personally for reasons others have already listed.

    Definitely enjoyed the DBOX seat for this though. Took it from super dumb to EXTRA super dumb.

    Also Charlie Day’s maroon suit was fly.

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  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
    Liked it more than I thought it would; the diversity in cast was pretty surprising, didn’t expect it to actually pretty accurately cast according to the relevant pacific rim regions.

  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Javen wrote: »
    Liked it more than I thought it would; the diversity in cast was pretty surprising, didn’t expect it to actually pretty accurately cast according to the relevant pacific rim regions.

    That was a nice touch. A good reminder that the program was meant to be multinational.

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  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
    I also have to say, as someone who went in blind, did NOT see that twist coming

  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Javen wrote: »
    I also have to say, as someone who went in blind, did NOT see that twist coming

    Didn't see it either, but in hindsight, it makes sense.
    Newt was described as a "Kaiju fanboy" in the original, so it's not surprising that he'd fall to their control.

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  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
    Yeah, that’s why it worked so well. You never see it coming, then think ‘we’ll actually, that makes sense’. It was surprising without being overly contrived.

  • DacDac Registered User regular
    edited March 2018
    I also like Jake about a billion times more than Raleigh. It helps that John Boyega is incredibly charismatic and doesn't have the presence of a saltine cracker on screen.

    I'm pretty middle of the ground on the movie overall. It did some things better than the original, but other things not so much. Felt pretty much like "Jaegers, here's some more of them", and they didn't have as much impact as the first movie. Partly because they didn't do much new with them, partly because they just weren't presented as being very impressive. I think there are a lot more low shots in the first Pacific Rim of these mammoth machines to give you the sheer sense of scale and weight. The way most of the robot action is filmed in Uprising - rapid and at shoulder height - makes it feel like normal people smashing around on a play set.

    I really wanted them to lean in with this movie, personally. Go Evangelion, like Guillermo was originally going to do. Or go Gurren lagaan and have Gypsy smush Scrapper where its missing head is supposed to be. GATTAI!

    In the end it's a serviceable sequel to a serviceable original.

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Javen wrote: »
    Yeah, that’s why it worked so well. You never see it coming, then think ‘we’ll actually, that makes sense’. It was surprising without being overly contrived.
    A lot of the stuff with Newt was done well in that sense. How'd he build Obsidian Fury? Well, the company's automated heavily, and a little embezzlement goes a long way, especially done by the head of R&D.

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Oh, and apparently Bandai has come out with this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eEvJqGKMaM

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  • SkeithSkeith Registered User regular
    Aphostile wrote: »
    It was super dumb, but I had fun watching it. I liked the first one better personally for reasons others have already listed.

    Definitely enjoyed the DBOX seat for this though. Took it from super dumb to EXTRA super dumb.

    Also Charlie Day’s maroon suit was fly.

    Should I try and track down a DBOX theater for this? I was going to see it in IMAX when I go to the mainland next week.

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  • TOGSolidTOGSolid Drunk sailor Seattle, WashingtonRegistered User regular
    edited March 2018
    Oh, and apparently Bandai has come out with this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eEvJqGKMaM

    Mine is already on the way (along with a batch of PR:U figures :D:D:D )!

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  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
    Javen wrote: »
    Yeah, that’s why it worked so well. You never see it coming, then think ‘we’ll actually, that makes sense’. It was surprising without being overly contrived.
    A lot of the stuff with Newt was done well in that sense. How'd he build Obsidian Fury? Well, the company's automated heavily, and a little embezzlement goes a long way, especially done by the head of R&D.
    Even just the way he acts. Immediate reaction is 'oh he's arrogant because he saved the world' and it's turned up for comedic effect. Then you realize 'oh, he was acting so differently compared to himself in the first movie, when everyone else is essentially the same, because he's not the same, he's an alien wearing a human suit.

  • MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Rochester, MNRegistered User regular
    Charlie Day is a perfectly cromulent actor and I hope he keeps getting work.

    Scott Eastwood is morphing into Clint at a reallly, really rapid pace.

    I am in the business of saving lives.
  • MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Rochester, MNRegistered User regular
    Heatwave wrote: »
    daveNYC wrote: »
    Heatwave wrote: »
    Character spoiler
    I really hope Mako gets more lines in this.

    One thing I really hated in the first movie was how Mako pretty much became a yes person once she finally got to pilot Gypsy.

    It was Raleigh giving all the orders nonstop with little to no input from Mako. The only time she provide input was activating the sword for the first time.

    That would have been nice, but I can understand why they didn't.
    Her English delivery wasn't that great, and while having her speak Japanese while Raleigh speaks English would have been pretty awesome, but it's a $190M robot vs. monsters summer popcorn movie. Even if they pitched the idea the studio would have shut them down.

    Most of Raleigh's lines when they were fighting were derpy and honestly were barely a half step up from Weaver's character's job in Galaxy Quest. I'm not sure how you improve that, but I hope they do. Making the fights more complicated might work. The most interesting lines tended to come when the fighting got funky (ex: when they released the coolant to freeze Otachi's tail), not when Raleigh was yelling random encouragement.
    I felt her English was fine, but a English/Japanese back-forth would have been cool.

    At the end of the day though, her lack of dialogue was a legitimate flaw of the consisting her character's importance to the film.

    I really like movies where characters speak different languages, but understand each other. It shouldn't be too far fetched in this Pacific Rim universe that both Chinese and English are taught at public schools.

    It also sets up a lot of great joke opportunities.

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  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    edited March 2018
    MegaMan001 wrote: »
    Charlie Day is a perfectly cromulent actor and I hope he keeps getting work.

    Scott Eastwood is morphing into Clint at a reallly, really rapid pace.

    It was the first role for Eastwood where I actually liked his performance and character,
    plus it helped that he was in the supporting cast rather than making Relaigh 2.0, and he ended up getting replaced by the much more interesting lead in the end.

    edit: Another standout performance was Tian Jing, who was the female lead in The Great Wall. Most of her speaking was in Chinese, because her English is terrible but I didn't mind it. Put her in more movies, please.

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  • JazzJazz Registered User regular
    MegaMan001 wrote: »
    Heatwave wrote: »
    daveNYC wrote: »
    Heatwave wrote: »
    Character spoiler
    I really hope Mako gets more lines in this.

    One thing I really hated in the first movie was how Mako pretty much became a yes person once she finally got to pilot Gypsy.

    It was Raleigh giving all the orders nonstop with little to no input from Mako. The only time she provide input was activating the sword for the first time.

    That would have been nice, but I can understand why they didn't.
    Her English delivery wasn't that great, and while having her speak Japanese while Raleigh speaks English would have been pretty awesome, but it's a $190M robot vs. monsters summer popcorn movie. Even if they pitched the idea the studio would have shut them down.

    Most of Raleigh's lines when they were fighting were derpy and honestly were barely a half step up from Weaver's character's job in Galaxy Quest. I'm not sure how you improve that, but I hope they do. Making the fights more complicated might work. The most interesting lines tended to come when the fighting got funky (ex: when they released the coolant to freeze Otachi's tail), not when Raleigh was yelling random encouragement.
    I felt her English was fine, but a English/Japanese back-forth would have been cool.

    At the end of the day though, her lack of dialogue was a legitimate flaw of the consisting her character's importance to the film.

    I really like movies where characters speak different languages, but understand each other. It shouldn't be too far fetched in this Pacific Rim universe that both Chinese and English are taught at public schools.

    It also sets up a lot of great joke opportunities.

    There'll always be someone saying "that can't/won't work!", to which one can simply point to the big daddy... Star Wars. All of them. In which those moments are always awesome.

  • TransporterTransporter Registered User regular
    I saw this last night!

    It was way better than it had any right to be.

    My only complaint is that the mech designs weren't as good as the original Pacific Rim, but you can tell what was originally just Transformers levels of phoned in had a lot of work put behind it so it at least echoed the original.

    Now give me my damn Pacific Rim prequel with Del Toro at the helm goddammit!

  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    it was basically fine. The first movie benefits a lot from a really tight plot. Sequel has a lot of chaff that should have been cut away

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  • CowSharkCowShark Registered User regular
    My only big gripe is that they didn't get Ramin Djawadi back to do the score.

  • Igpx407Igpx407 Registered User regular
    CowShark wrote: »
    My only big gripe is that they didn't get Ramin Djawadi back to do the score.

    I loved it. Maybe reviews lowered my expectations, but it was much better than I thought it would be sans the almost forgettable score. I thought they had some good use of licensed music, but nothing musically came close to the Beckett brothers swagging down the hallway to the main theme with their dope bomber jackets.

  • NotYouNotYou Registered User regular
    Saw it the other day and in the first 10 minutes
    You get introduced to a 16 year old that somehow has BUILT HER OWN GIANT ROBOT. ON HER OWN. Howwwwwwww???? How is she steeling thousands of tons of metal and then constructing something with it. If that doesn't kill your suspension of disbelief nothing will. It did nicely make me understand what I was getting into though.

    Guillermo del Toro would never have done something like that. He sorta tried to have things make sense.

  • Apothe0sisApothe0sis Have you ever questioned the nature of your reality? Registered User regular
    evilthecat wrote: »
    Not as good as the first one.
    The story is, well, let's be honest, we're not there for the story.
    If you saw the first one, then you've seen the second one (including most of the jokes).

    Most people will be going for the robot vs monster fights, and those:
    Just aren't as well done.
    Optically, everything is where it should be. Stuff looks great. Even better than the first.
    Most of the time though the Jägers lack the weight they had in the first one.
    It feels like cheap plastic is being thrown around (despite buildings toppling, which is really weird).

    The biggest disappointment for me is the poor showing of the Jägers.
    You had some media hype surrounding the robots, the Jägers are teased early on in the movie proper, but when they actually make their screen appearance, it's very short and rather flimsy.
    I don't want to spoil anything, but the "swarm" "event" near the end of the movie is particularly jarring.

    You could wait for this to appear on netflix, is not a must-see-in-cinema.

    Compared to the first movie the second of your spoiled complaints doesn’t make the most sense.
    The original movie saw each of the non Gypsy Danger jaegers getting taken out in a minute or so having achieved nothing

  • DeadfallDeadfall I don't think you realize just how rich he is. In fact, I should put on a monocle.Registered User regular
    Yeah put me in the camp of looooooved the first one and didn't like the sequel.
    At all.

    Boyega and Eastwood were good, but man
    It took like an hour for a Kaiju battle. That's what I paid to see! Flimsy plot and characters I can deal with. But an hour with no Kaiju? Come on. And the trollolloll video jesus my eyes nearly rolled down the aisle.

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  • Inquisitor77Inquisitor77 2 x Penny Arcade Fight Club Champion A fixed point in space and timeRegistered User regular
    Just saw it. Quick thoughts:

    Frankly, it was better than I thought it would be. The fights were decent but could've been better (no real "oh shit" moments, and no scenes that made you think that you were gaining something watching it in a theater). I hesitate to say this about a kaiju movie, but they could've done with some more run time to breathe a little more, particularly on the characterization front.

    But if you enjoyed the first one you will likely enjoy this one. Just don't go in expecting Citizen Kane.

  • evilthecatevilthecat Registered User regular
    Apothe0sis wrote: »
    evilthecat wrote: »
    Not as good as the first one.
    The story is, well, let's be honest, we're not there for the story.
    If you saw the first one, then you've seen the second one (including most of the jokes).

    Most people will be going for the robot vs monster fights, and those:
    Just aren't as well done.
    Optically, everything is where it should be. Stuff looks great. Even better than the first.
    Most of the time though the Jägers lack the weight they had in the first one.
    It feels like cheap plastic is being thrown around (despite buildings toppling, which is really weird).

    The biggest disappointment for me is the poor showing of the Jägers.
    You had some media hype surrounding the robots, the Jägers are teased early on in the movie proper, but when they actually make their screen appearance, it's very short and rather flimsy.
    I don't want to spoil anything, but the "swarm" "event" near the end of the movie is particularly jarring.

    You could wait for this to appear on netflix, is not a must-see-in-cinema.

    Compared to the first movie the second of your spoiled complaints doesn’t make the most sense.
    The original movie saw each of the non Gypsy Danger jaegers getting taken out in a minute or so having achieved nothing

    Not true.
    Striker Eureka handily dispatched the wall breaking K4 in Sydney.

    For the rest:
    Either you're content with the argument that both movies do the same thing in that regard, in which case I'd say it's fine once, but not twice, or you can argue that there's a qualitative difference between the movies (humanity prepared for another assault, more pilots, more funding, media surrounding the movie) which wasn't translated well onto the big screen.
    The problem is exacerbated by the fact that we ultimately only got one robot vs kaiju fight.

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  • BizazedoBizazedo Registered User regular
    Saw it yesterday. It was not good. The one enormous retcon from the first movie that created the location for the final fight in PR2 was insulting.

    As stated above, the one characters ability to..(many issues to follow)
    ..build a baby Jaeger by herself with no one the wiser was just crazy. Seriously? She's scavenging, but she built a baby Jaeger with no one the wiser, yet still was shocked that it worked when she got that last power cell?

    Even worse was the fact that that Jaeger came back at the end, piloted remotely by a CEO character who should not have been piloting it, upgraded for no apparent reason, to play a pivotal part? Saturday Morning Cartoon time, I guess.

    So, so stupid.

    The "twist" of Newt being the main bad person was fine and even well-done. His reluctance to help the other scientist with his rocket boosters makes even more sense in retrospect. I daresay it was actually well-written.

    The ripper swarms sewing the Kaiju into a bigger Kaiju was just odd and weird and unwanted by me. They should have merged organically.

    Despite the twist of Newt actually being well-written, I was actually disappointed to see a Kaiju by the end, if I'm being honest. The movie had actually built up what was, for me, a VERY interesting potential plot. The Kaiju are banished for now, Jaegers exist, maybe this corporation is building Jaegers AND WILL TAKE OVER THE WORLD?

    Robot versus Robot interested me far more than Kaiju. I was hoping that's what would happen with a breach maybe opening at the end as the "civil war" of human versus human had a disastrous side effect? Alas, no, we can't have the corporation be evil. They're just unwitting puppets.

    At least all the kid pilots except one lived? No, that was dumb, too.

    Finally....the major retcon. The Kaiju were going for Fuji in the first film? No they weren't! What the hell is that insanity?

    That was too big of a retcon and I felt insulted.

    John Boyega was good, at least. Once we got past the horrible product placement at the beginning of the film. I do hope OREO cookies gets a boost out of it, though, I do love them.


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  • CowSharkCowShark Registered User regular
    Bizazedo wrote: »
    Saw it yesterday. It was not good. The one enormous retcon from the first movie that created the location for the final fight in PR2 was insulting.

    As stated above, the one characters ability to..(many issues to follow)
    ..build a baby Jaeger by herself with no one the wiser was just crazy. Seriously? She's scavenging, but she built a baby Jaeger with no one the wiser, yet still was shocked that it worked when she got that last power cell?

    Even worse was the fact that that Jaeger came back at the end, piloted remotely by a CEO character who should not have been piloting it, upgraded for no apparent reason, to play a pivotal part? Saturday Morning Cartoon time, I guess.

    So, so stupid.

    The "twist" of Newt being the main bad person was fine and even well-done. His reluctance to help the other scientist with his rocket boosters makes even more sense in retrospect. I daresay it was actually well-written.

    The ripper swarms sewing the Kaiju into a bigger Kaiju was just odd and weird and unwanted by me. They should have merged organically.

    Despite the twist of Newt actually being well-written, I was actually disappointed to see a Kaiju by the end, if I'm being honest. The movie had actually built up what was, for me, a VERY interesting potential plot. The Kaiju are banished for now, Jaegers exist, maybe this corporation is building Jaegers AND WILL TAKE OVER THE WORLD?

    Robot versus Robot interested me far more than Kaiju. I was hoping that's what would happen with a breach maybe opening at the end as the "civil war" of human versus human had a disastrous side effect? Alas, no, we can't have the corporation be evil. They're just unwitting puppets.

    At least all the kid pilots except one lived? No, that was dumb, too.

    Finally....the major retcon. The Kaiju were going for Fuji in the first film? No they weren't! What the hell is that insanity?

    That was too big of a retcon and I felt insulted.

    John Boyega was good, at least. Once we got past the horrible product placement at the beginning of the film. I do hope OREO cookies gets a boost out of it, though, I do love them.


    Weird thing about the retcon was...
    They didn't need it. They could've just been like, "Alright, we got three Kaiju, what's it look like they're moving towards?" Ah yes. Tokyo, or maybe Mt. Fuji. The big show.

  • BizazedoBizazedo Registered User regular
    You're right. It was like different writers wrote everything regarding Newt (sans one part at the end of the movie) and the others wrote all of the crap, one example of which is what you're referring to, Cowshark.

    I guess they did that for added urgency that really wasn't needed.

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  • see317see317 Registered User regular
    Bizazedo wrote: »
    Saw it yesterday. It was not good. The one enormous retcon from the first movie that created the location for the final fight in PR2 was insulting.

    As stated above, the one characters ability to..(many issues to follow)
    ..build a baby Jaeger by herself with no one the wiser was just crazy. Seriously? She's scavenging, but she built a baby Jaeger with no one the wiser, yet still was shocked that it worked when she got that last power cell?

    Even worse was the fact that that Jaeger came back at the end, piloted remotely by a CEO character who should not have been piloting it, upgraded for no apparent reason, to play a pivotal part? Saturday Morning Cartoon time, I guess.

    So, so stupid.

    The "twist" of Newt being the main bad person was fine and even well-done. His reluctance to help the other scientist with his rocket boosters makes even more sense in retrospect. I daresay it was actually well-written.

    The ripper swarms sewing the Kaiju into a bigger Kaiju was just odd and weird and unwanted by me. They should have merged organically.

    Despite the twist of Newt actually being well-written, I was actually disappointed to see a Kaiju by the end, if I'm being honest. The movie had actually built up what was, for me, a VERY interesting potential plot. The Kaiju are banished for now, Jaegers exist, maybe this corporation is building Jaegers AND WILL TAKE OVER THE WORLD?

    Robot versus Robot interested me far more than Kaiju. I was hoping that's what would happen with a breach maybe opening at the end as the "civil war" of human versus human had a disastrous side effect? Alas, no, we can't have the corporation be evil. They're just unwitting puppets.

    At least all the kid pilots except one lived? No, that was dumb, too.

    Finally....the major retcon. The Kaiju were going for Fuji in the first film? No they weren't! What the hell is that insanity?

    That was too big of a retcon and I felt insulted.

    John Boyega was good, at least. Once we got past the horrible product placement at the beginning of the film. I do hope OREO cookies gets a boost out of it, though, I do love them.


    To the last of the spoilers, the retcon, yeah.
    They could have saved it, with some work and wonky science that would have pissed off geologists for years days a good solid five minutes or so and said all the previous kaiju were headed towards locations of extreme geological activity like fault lines or volcanoes and these ones just happened to be closest to Mt. Fuji so they're all headed that way.

    I mean "They were always headed towards Mt. Fuji" is idiotic. No, beyond idiotic. They all come from the same point, if they all had the same end point then how did Knifehead wind up in Alaska?

  • CowSharkCowShark Registered User regular
    see317 wrote: »
    Bizazedo wrote: »
    Saw it yesterday. It was not good. The one enormous retcon from the first movie that created the location for the final fight in PR2 was insulting.

    As stated above, the one characters ability to..(many issues to follow)
    ..build a baby Jaeger by herself with no one the wiser was just crazy. Seriously? She's scavenging, but she built a baby Jaeger with no one the wiser, yet still was shocked that it worked when she got that last power cell?

    Even worse was the fact that that Jaeger came back at the end, piloted remotely by a CEO character who should not have been piloting it, upgraded for no apparent reason, to play a pivotal part? Saturday Morning Cartoon time, I guess.

    So, so stupid.

    The "twist" of Newt being the main bad person was fine and even well-done. His reluctance to help the other scientist with his rocket boosters makes even more sense in retrospect. I daresay it was actually well-written.

    The ripper swarms sewing the Kaiju into a bigger Kaiju was just odd and weird and unwanted by me. They should have merged organically.

    Despite the twist of Newt actually being well-written, I was actually disappointed to see a Kaiju by the end, if I'm being honest. The movie had actually built up what was, for me, a VERY interesting potential plot. The Kaiju are banished for now, Jaegers exist, maybe this corporation is building Jaegers AND WILL TAKE OVER THE WORLD?

    Robot versus Robot interested me far more than Kaiju. I was hoping that's what would happen with a breach maybe opening at the end as the "civil war" of human versus human had a disastrous side effect? Alas, no, we can't have the corporation be evil. They're just unwitting puppets.

    At least all the kid pilots except one lived? No, that was dumb, too.

    Finally....the major retcon. The Kaiju were going for Fuji in the first film? No they weren't! What the hell is that insanity?

    That was too big of a retcon and I felt insulted.

    John Boyega was good, at least. Once we got past the horrible product placement at the beginning of the film. I do hope OREO cookies gets a boost out of it, though, I do love them.


    To the last of the spoilers, the retcon, yeah.
    They could have saved it, with some work and wonky science that would have pissed off geologists for years days a good solid five minutes or so and said all the previous kaiju were headed towards locations of extreme geological activity like fault lines or volcanoes and these ones just happened to be closest to Mt. Fuji so they're all headed that way.

    I mean "They were always headed towards Mt. Fuji" is idiotic. No, beyond idiotic. They all come from the same point, if they all had the same end point then how did Knifehead wind up in Alaska?

    Also idiotic because...
    Why would they have known about Mt. Fuji originally? There's script in the first movie that paints the early kaiju as pioneers, exploring the earth before the aliens send in the big guns. They coulda just been like, "Before... they were probing, but now they're linked up with Newt and they're going for this thing."

  • ForarForar #432 Toronto, Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    I love the original movie. It's one of my all time favourites. The sequel... I've gotta say I was kind of lukewarm on. Basically chiming in with others here. I'd seen the trailers, had the same concerns, and overall while I wouldn't say I hated it, it wasn't quite what I wanted to be the followup to the first.

    I agree that the plot elements described in spoilers on this page (including the reveal of the primary foe) was good, perhaps even great.

    Some things that mainly caught me included
    the Jaegers didn't feel as tough. Contrast the slugging matches from the first film, it didn't feel like any of them really stood up to much punishment. Gipsy Avenger just punching a hole through Obsidian Fury got a 'wait what?' from me, and most of them just getting wrecked in the final confrontation was a little underwhelming.

    Also the retcons mentioned on this page, it seemed like they were on the verge of something sensible and then went 'remember that Analog/Nuclear line in the first one? Let's do that, but harder.'

    Not a dealbreaker if they end up making a third film, but I won't be rushing out to see it again or buy the Bluray, y'know?

    First they came for the Muslims, and we said NOT TODAY, MOTHERFUCKER!
  • KPCKPC Registered User regular
    Re: Jaegers
    Don't forget that the initial Kaiju were pretty much dominated by the new Jaegers until they fused, and then all of them were easily dispatched. Crimson Typhoon and Cherno were defeated fairly easily by Otachi and Leatherback.

  • CowSharkCowShark Registered User regular
    edited March 2018
    Oh!

    I want to point out one thing I really liked.

    The director of this show was the show runner for the Spartacus TV show some years back.

    There's a point where
    Jake and... *looks on IMDB* Nate? Are in the fight with Obsidian Fury, and Jake goes, "remember that old move we used to do?" Then they absolutely do a Spartacus forever-knee-slide™ to land a slash across Obsidian's midsection.

    CowShark on
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