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[PATV] Monday, July 22, 2013 - CheckPoint Season 3, Ep. 6: The Peripherals
I guess I'm a bad consumer. I never voted for any games, I impatiently waited for the clock to reach zero so I could see if maybe the next batch of games was better than the last one, and I spent under $20, buying only a couple of indie games and Just Cause 2. Oh, and I never even checked to see what that card nonsense was about because it looked stupid.
Pff, I didn't need to get a psychologist's analysis of why people adore Steam Sales.
1) It's not that it's limited or scarce - it's on SALE. Money-driven people will flock to this because it's cheaper than full price, therefore, worthwhile to invest in.
2) The cards to gain levels on Steam are also silly. Every game that gave me cards, I turned around and sold it on the market. I essentially got Rogue Legacy for free this way, thanks to the 20% discount it had for the entirety of the sale period. The "gacha" effect didn't even hit me.
Man, no one ever triggers my retro childhood console nostalgia. I guess me and that one kid at school were the only ones who went Sega instead of Nintendo. Oh sure, one token Sega-CD joke to try to mask your outrageous bias, you'll be hearing from the ACLU.
Seriously though, it really feels like 99% of retro gaming culture is focused on Nintendo. Which is odd because I know more than 1% of us had Sega when we were kids.
@Whyroon It's probably at least partially because Nintendo is still around in a major way. Sure, SEGA can score a few hits by nodding to the past with Sonic Generations, but Nintendo is in a position to really capitalize on the nostalgia. From there, well, people follow trends, and the Nintendo brand of nostalgia is a more solid trend to follow.
I have never purchased a game I voted on.
What I do with the Steam sales are whenever there is a game I am interested throughout the year is I put it on my Wishlist. Then when these games go on deep discount, whether during something like the Summer Sale or just a weekend or midweek sale, I buy it. That way I don't buy games I have no interest in just because it's on sale for $1.99
Was I the only one who trolled the Steam votes?
I chose the least appealing game. Or chose one at random. Since a game I would buy never came up.
It's fortunate having 0 money and being unemployed and with a rubbish laptop, you save money on the Sales. Somehow you can't justify spending £8 on the HD 'remake' of Age of Empires 2. Or spending £20 on Dishonoured who won't run on your PC. Or Darksiders 2 because your PC still hasn't been able to play Darksiders 1 without dying.
Sorry, psychologists, I don't buy flash sale games because of implied scarcity. I buy them because today Human Revolution will be three bucks and tomorrow it will be thirty bucks.
Wait, if he's fired is Cathleen taking Husbando tryouts?!
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@twilightdusk Oh yeah. The stuff that could be done with a SNES HD movement would be epic. Or at least amazingly lucrative as nostalgia purchasing goes.
Sorry, psychologists, I don't buy flash sale games because of implied scarcity. I buy them because today Human Revolution will be three bucks and tomorrow it will be thirty bucks.
Congratulations, you've managed to overturn decades of research into psycho-sociological marketing tactics and B.F. Skinner psychological research.
You've earned the: "You're kidding yourself" badge!
Having studied it extensively myself, I can tell you that, while these methods make you more likely to buy, they are not the only reasons you do. Advanced cognitive processes can over-ride or play a role in low level decision making just as easily as low-level processes influence higher ones. You can, indeed, decide not to buy or to buy for different reasons. You'll feel more pleasurable ABOUT buying if you do, but that's not the same thing.
So, no, there's no badge to win here. Think about it: Why don't you just buy everything all the time? Most marketers use these same tricks; Steam is just really good at it.
It's somewhat disengenious to say that you had to spend $100 to finish a steam sale badge. I finished all 5 ranks of the badge and spent less than $70 during the whole sale. For every 3 flash sale votes, you got a free card. For any other badge for another game you finished, you got a free card. And if you really cared to finish a badge with a missing card or two, they were on the Steam Marketplace for a dime on average.
Scary thought here: Maybe people buy things for different reasons. The psychological impulses described can be effective at predicting the behavior of SOME of the population, but not all.
For example, Skyrim was about 40% off for a limited time. I do not own Skyrim and it looked interesting to me. Did I buy it? No. But oh! According to the universal marketing psychology I should have eaten it up, right? It was on sale, with all it's implied scarcity right in my face. I had the money to do so, so why didn't I?
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Scary thought here: Maybe people buy things for different reasons. The psychological impulses described can be effective at predicting the behavior of SOME of the population, but not all.
For example, Skyrim was about 40% off for a limited time. I do not own Skyrim and it looked interesting to me. Did I buy it? No. But oh! According to the universal marketing psychology I should have eaten it up, right? It was on sale, with all it's implied scarcity right in my face. I had the money to do so, so why didn't I?
The human brain is pretty lousy at being perfectly rational.
But it's super great at tricking itself into believing it's perfectly rational.
you're = you are
your = belonging to you
their = belonging to them
there = not here
they're = they are
Obviously the reason you didn't buy Skyrim is because the winter sale will have it cheaper.
In this Steam hath become it's own nemesis.
Also the point wasn't to say that everyone behaves like X. It was to say that the Steam sale is designed to encourage you to purchase, obviously this doesn't mean everyone buys everything.
Thank you, Kathleen for pointing out something that retailers have known for the better part of a century: putting something on sale for a limited time makes it more appealing to buy because brain.
Sorry folks, but that may have slightly exceeded my recommended daily allowance for snark.
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Warframe: TheBaconDwarf
1) It's not that it's limited or scarce - it's on SALE. Money-driven people will flock to this because it's cheaper than full price, therefore, worthwhile to invest in.
2) The cards to gain levels on Steam are also silly. Every game that gave me cards, I turned around and sold it on the market. I essentially got Rogue Legacy for free this way, thanks to the 20% discount it had for the entirety of the sale period. The "gacha" effect didn't even hit me.
Steam: TheArcadeBear
Seriously though, it really feels like 99% of retro gaming culture is focused on Nintendo. Which is odd because I know more than 1% of us had Sega when we were kids.
Isn't that the dictionary definition of Steam?
What I do with the Steam sales are whenever there is a game I am interested throughout the year is I put it on my Wishlist. Then when these games go on deep discount, whether during something like the Summer Sale or just a weekend or midweek sale, I buy it. That way I don't buy games I have no interest in just because it's on sale for $1.99
I chose the least appealing game. Or chose one at random. Since a game I would buy never came up.
It's fortunate having 0 money and being unemployed and with a rubbish laptop, you save money on the Sales. Somehow you can't justify spending £8 on the HD 'remake' of Age of Empires 2. Or spending £20 on Dishonoured who won't run on your PC. Or Darksiders 2 because your PC still hasn't been able to play Darksiders 1 without dying.
FIRST!
@twilightdusk Oh yeah. The stuff that could be done with a SNES HD movement would be epic. Or at least amazingly lucrative as nostalgia purchasing goes.
You've earned the: "You're kidding yourself" badge!
Having studied it extensively myself, I can tell you that, while these methods make you more likely to buy, they are not the only reasons you do. Advanced cognitive processes can over-ride or play a role in low level decision making just as easily as low-level processes influence higher ones. You can, indeed, decide not to buy or to buy for different reasons. You'll feel more pleasurable ABOUT buying if you do, but that's not the same thing.
So, no, there's no badge to win here. Think about it: Why don't you just buy everything all the time? Most marketers use these same tricks; Steam is just really good at it.
Scary thought here: Maybe people buy things for different reasons. The psychological impulses described can be effective at predicting the behavior of SOME of the population, but not all.
For example, Skyrim was about 40% off for a limited time. I do not own Skyrim and it looked interesting to me. Did I buy it? No. But oh! According to the universal marketing psychology I should have eaten it up, right? It was on sale, with all it's implied scarcity right in my face. I had the money to do so, so why didn't I?
The human brain is pretty lousy at being perfectly rational.
But it's super great at tricking itself into believing it's perfectly rational.
your = belonging to you
their = belonging to them
there = not here
they're = they are
In this Steam hath become it's own nemesis.
Also the point wasn't to say that everyone behaves like X. It was to say that the Steam sale is designed to encourage you to purchase, obviously this doesn't mean everyone buys everything.
Sorry folks, but that may have slightly exceeded my recommended daily allowance for snark.
Virtual Boy the drama the movie.