I remain amused at how no one in ARAM understands what Urgot does.
...and will thus dive him with a Fiora, only to to get their damage crippled, armor shredded, and urgot to crab away with his shield while blowing the Fiora to bits. Crabkind, ahoy!
So i think that Veigar may just be secret OP. At least at whatever my normal ELO is. Because there basically isn't a way to stop him from becoming an unstoppable force with the current itemization with the exception of straight up winning the game. Once he hits level 13 and has a DFG he can nuke anyone on your backline and has a mini mumu ult on a 14 second CD [The stun on a rank 5 Event Horizon is actually longer than any other stun/full disable in the game except a full charge Ashe Arrow]
Fake Edit: As far as i can tell there are only 10 abilities which have any CC>= 2.5 seconds. Only one of those is AoE and its not a full disable.
As much as I'd like to see Yi in competitive play I think is rework is more of a pubstomper, it's easy for him to dodge CC, but it's not hard to predict where is he going to end up after the alpha strike.
Of course it means you still eat the Alpha, but that's the thing with Yi.
The stats that have been released so far for Yi seem pretty scary. A 52% win rate in ranked is relatively high for what is essentially the first day of a new champion's release, especially when he's in nearly as many games as Cait.
It wouldn't surprise me at all if that win rate goes up as people get used to his new kit and the fact that he doesn't build AP any more.
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Yeah, there are too many counters to him in lane, and he doesn't have the necessary CC to make it as a tournament level jungler.
Hey @Joshmvii , I gave your build you mentioned for Yi a spin in a botgame. I duo'd but I wasn't sure if you did this for jungle or solo top. Could you tell me which and your early build path? I got as far as halfway through IE. It was probably the most fun I've had in this game since I was stupid Lv 1 taking Yi into games with all my friends that were Lv 30 in early Season 1.
I have been going hydra->shiv->IE->PD for top/mid/bot(if i'm in blind pick or whatev). Jungle I've been going elder lizard->botrk->shiv->youmuu's or IE. Honestly, he's so strong right now you can build anything.
My favorite is probably Hydra/Shiv/IE/PD, but BotRK is honestly better to have in there somewhere than the PD most likely, just because you have a bit less crit but you get the active which is crazy.
I get 15+ kills every game no matter what I build pretty much, so whatever.
What do you think about Manamune so you never run out of mana....maybe go tear near the start between hydra and shiv, and place it where the PD would go? My only issue was I'd run dry on mana in extended fights.
IMO you can't afford to spend the money on tear/manamune. I mean, you can because he's so strong right now, but you really don't need mana on Yi. If you get hydra, shiv or both, you never need to even hit alpha strike to clear waves/camps instantly, so the only mana expenditures should be in team fights. And if you get to hit alpha strike enough times in a team fight to run OOM then you probably got a penta kill anyway, so it doesn't matter that you're now OOM.
Pretty much. It also might just be me though. I don't consider an IE, BotRK, Shiv, Phantom, and boots (generally as far as I see any get) a lot of AD. Mostly because I too build stupidly and rush two Bloodhirsters and a Phantom Dancer.
The IE-botrk-shiv-phantom build is actually a superior build to the one you suggest, because with the first you get the botrk active, a fuckload of attack speed, but most importantly, 80% crit chance to go along with the IE. Your build has 30% crit only with no IE powered crits, and considerably less attack speed.
With the first build and his E Yi will have 250+ AD anyway, and he'll be critting for 600+ with 2+ attacks per second.
Burning Agony is a 1 point Wonder. If you skill it early, you basically just kill yourself.
Mundo W max is a relic from season 2, when you didn't usually get smiteless leashes and your jungle path was like wolves-smite blue-wraiths-golems-red, so if you didn't have W you'd never be able to do that path, and even with it you needed armor/5 and you'd still get low.
Now that jungle is red->blue or blue->red there's no reason to ever start anything except QE on Mundo. Q shreds big buffs faster than anything, and his E gives you 40+ AD with one point. Not to mention, the small camps now only have one creep in them that has any health so E/Q max remain better. One point in W will kill the little guys in wraith/wolves camp np.
The new Yi is exceptionally powerful. He's basically what Katarina would be if she could clear the jungle fast as hell. A pub stomping nightmare. If you get a lane you just farm. It's amazingly easy to keep up 10 cs per minute with him, so you're almost always ahead of the game in items.
If you're jungling, you just bait enemies into fights or you counter gank. Don't alpha strike until somebody is in kill range, and GG resets.
The best kind of lanes to play Yi jungle against are ones with like Leona. Leona players are impossibly easy to bait. Just tell your bot lane to let her hit them with E while you stand slightly in the fog of war. Welcome to a double kill, every time.
He doesn't even need items. Yesterday in a game with my buddies I was already 6/0 by the time I backed for the 2nd time to finish my elder lizard. He still has the same weaknesses as he did before, but now he doesn't have to just hope he doesn't get CCed while he autos people to death because alpha strike hits like a freight train and finishes the kills for him.
My favorite part of Yi is how people are never sure until they fight you how strong you are at each stage of the game. I had a game last night where I was vs Vlad top. I didn't manage to get a kill on him early, so predictably I didn't have kill potential for most of laning phase. But once I had hydra/shiv/cutlass I won the 1v1 all in against him to determine who would own the split push game up there from then on. So I just pushed top insanely. At one point earlier in the game the Udyr jungle came top and I had to flash from him because he was too strong for me 1v1. So later in the game when I have 3 big items finished he thinks it's a good idea to fight me when I'm taking his blue buff. Got news for you buddy, the time of you 1v1ing me is over, lol. I killed him in about 6 seconds.
I'm always a big fan of champs that can split push well too. The same game I was pushing bot when the enemy engaged 5v4 on my team mid lane. At the time they did it I was on the inner turret. I took that turret, and had to decide if I wanted to go clean up mid or not. When I saw my team was going to lose the fight I just decided to keep up the split. We lost the fight 4 for 0, but my team nearly killed all 5 of them and they didn't have a minion wave so they couldn't push our mid and had to back, but by the time they could I had already taken bot inhib because Yi ult is amazing for fast push.
Funny story time:
In that game I had a Teemo top who was like 1/3 versus Fizz and asked me to gank. I tower dived the Fizz after baiting his E out first, expecting the Teemo to finish him off, but instead he ignited him at way more health than ignite would do and ran off. So I had to die to make sure I got the kill first.
The Teemo got SO MAD. I was 7/1 at that point and would of course go on to have 20+ kills, but the Teemo started calling me the worst names imaginable, saying the only reason I had kills was from KSing, and just generally hating me. I told him to just chill and be positive.
So later in the game the Teemo was fighting Fizz 1v1 in the mid lane and I am running up the lane. But instead of killing Fizz I just stop right next to them and start spamming /dance. I let the Fizz kill him, then just kill the Fizz after. The Teemo got soooooooooooooo much more mad. I wasn't trying to troll him or anything, the thought of watching them 1v1 while I dance there was just so funny and the game was already over at that point. Teemo started begging the enemy team to report me for assisting enemy team. Haha. I told him the global taunt works on your teammates too.
Ap doesn't make any sense anymore. .. are they building like... as and crit?
AS and crit was the way to go when Wuju Style gave him a ton of free AD. People will realize soon enough that you really need to buy AD with the new E (except at my shit tier where even the AD carries buy AS/crit items first )
New Yi should basically just go back and forth between these lists, building an AD item, then an AS/crit one, then an AD one, then an AS/crit one until you penta kill. Fun items are to buy when you back with 3k gold and just want to buy something funny. Just pick what you want from each list.
AD : IE, Hydra, BotRK, BT, LW
Attack speed/crit: Shiv, PD
Fun: Youmuu, SotD
My goal with him is always to crit every attack while also having an IE. But typically I build Hydra/Shiv early because my main goal is to out farm the world. I typically can hit 300 CS before the 30 minute mark. Just always be farming everywhere on the map. Leverage his great move speed and the insta wave clear. Leave no creeps behind.
I've actually started sitting with a paper in front of me so I can jot down buff spawn timers. Easier to keep track of than scrolling back in chat.
I've never found that keeping timers on blue/red was necessary. They're going to be at 7:12 and ~7:45 for your first two, then between 12 and 13 for the second round, but after that, you're pretty much to the point where your mid/AD will probably be wanting to take them and will just grab them when it's convenient for them.
I try to keep a ward on the enemy buffs but I just place them a minute or two before I know they'll come up, so ~6, 11, 17 minutes.
Dragon I always have to scroll up to check the timer on though.
I've actually started sitting with a paper in front of me so I can jot down buff spawn timers. Easier to keep track of than scrolling back in chat.
I've never found that keeping timers on blue/red was necessary. They're going to be at 7:12 and ~7:45 for your first two, then between 12 and 13 for the second round, but after that, you're pretty much to the point where your mid/AD will probably be wanting to take them and will just grab them when it's convenient for them.
I try to keep a ward on the enemy buffs but I just place them a minute or two before I know they'll come up, so ~6, 11, 17 minutes.
Dragon I always have to scroll up to check the timer on though.
I've actually started sitting with a paper in front of me so I can jot down buff spawn timers. Easier to keep track of than scrolling back in chat.
I've never found that keeping timers on blue/red was necessary. They're going to be at 7:12 and ~7:45 for your first two, then between 12 and 13 for the second round, but after that, you're pretty much to the point where your mid/AD will probably be wanting to take them and will just grab them when it's convenient for them.
I try to keep a ward on the enemy buffs but I just place them a minute or two before I know they'll come up, so ~6, 11, 17 minutes.
Dragon I always have to scroll up to check the timer on though.
get out of this habit
I'm usually contesting enemy buffs when they spawn which means mine are going to be sitting shortly anyway. As long as you know within 10 seconds when your blue/red buff are going to spawn, and the enemies, and which one you plan to be at when it spawns, you will always be near it as soon as it spawns.
I shouldn't have said I don't keep timers, because that's not accurate. Just that I rarely ever need them because I already know when they're spawning. Any time I know a timer on a buff(mine or enemy), I type it in chat to have a timestamp. I just don't need them 90% of the time.
I definitely don't need any advice about jungling, heh.
What are the respawn timers for the camps? I know they're ~ 5 minutes, but what are they precisely?
Bear Cavalry Sejuani is AMAZING (especially for a slavophile like me). If I played Sejuani it would perhaps be Riot's first crack at my money. As it is, I am resisting the purchase, because I've never even tried her.
I definitely don't need any advice about jungling, heh.
get out of this habit
I'd appreciate if you aren't snarky for no reason. I didn't elaborate, but what I really meant was "I don't need advice from you." I've learned everything I know about jungling from doing it myself, but more importantly watching pro players, both in LCS and also when they play solo queue. And frankly, I'm pretty god damned good at the jungle. I have very very good jungle awareness. My win rate with jungle is between 60-80% with all junglers that I play in ranked.
If you want to elaborate on any of your posts with something more than a one sentence witticism, please do and I'd be glad to engage in discussion.
What are the respawn timers for the camps? I know they're ~ 5 minutes, but what are they precisely?
Bear Cavalry Sejuani is AMAZING (especially for a slavophile like me). If I played Sejuani it would perhaps be Riot's first crack at my money. As it is, I am resisting the purchase, because I've never even tried her.
Blue/Red: 5 minutes
Dragon: 6
Baron: 7
Turn on timestamps, and just type when you see a buff die/dragon, etc. If it's a blue/red, add 5 minutes, so if you kill blue or red respectively at 2:12, type in chat "7:12 ob" or "7:12 or." For enemies use "7:12 tb" So you know the timers on "our" and "their" buffs. It's a nice shorthand, and will help you backtrack if you forget a timer.
One day Riot will make you able to mouse scroll up through chat and not have it reset to the bottom if somebody types something. That is a day I anxiously await.
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So I had my first complete troll on Ranked last night. We get in pick 4 says they want top. Pick 2 wants top (pick order) but then says fine. Pick 4 says he's going to play Teemo, fine. He then picks Miss Fortune (after Caitlyn was already picked by the ADC) and decides to just randomly follow Miss Fortune everywhere and does nothing. I (as Udyr) had to ADC bottom (don't ask what a cluster) and we get totally rolled (obviously).
I obviously reported but I can't imagine why this person did that. I mean other than having something they actually have power over in their life. It was fine I accepted the lost played as well as I could (not well under the circumstances) and we lost at like 25 minutes.
At least I can say it was the first time I've ever had a real troll/feeder in a ranked game but it made me stop playing for the night.
I definitely don't need any advice about jungling, heh.
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I'd appreciate if you aren't snarky for no reason. I didn't elaborate, but what I really meant was "I don't need advice from you." I've learned everything I know about jungling from doing it myself, but more importantly watching pro players, both in LCS and also when they play solo queue. And frankly, I'm pretty god damned good at the jungle. I have very very good jungle awareness. My win rate with jungle is between 60-80% with all junglers that I play in ranked.
If you want to elaborate on any of your posts with something more than a one sentence witticism, please do and I'd be glad to engage in discussion.
snarky for no reason? that's two posts of yours in a row that i've responded to where you typed something you didn't mean. i'm sorry if I couldn't read your hidden, passive-aggressive meaning. my first post told you to get out of the habit of not timing things as a jungler which is 100% good advice. to which you then said woops I actually do time things I just don't need it most of the time. the second time I said get out of the habit of thinking you are beyond advice. to which you said woops I do use advice but I don't need advice from you because I am actually a golden god at the jungle.
and this is probably going to seem like an unnecessary jab, but frankly, if you were as pretty god damned good at the jungle as you think you are, you wouldn't be in silver. the difference between me and you is I wish I was pretty god damned good at mid, jungle, ad carry, whatever. I'm in gold and I suck. true improvement doesn't come until you realize how shit you actually are.
I definitely don't need any advice about jungling, heh.
get out of this habit
I'd appreciate if you aren't snarky for no reason. I didn't elaborate, but what I really meant was "I don't need advice from you." I've learned everything I know about jungling from doing it myself, but more importantly watching pro players, both in LCS and also when they play solo queue. And frankly, I'm pretty god damned good at the jungle. I have very very good jungle awareness. My win rate with jungle is between 60-80% with all junglers that I play in ranked.
If you want to elaborate on any of your posts with something more than a one sentence witticism, please do and I'd be glad to engage in discussion.
snarky for no reason? that's two posts of yours in a row that i've responded to where you typed something you didn't mean. i'm sorry if I couldn't read your hidden, passive-aggressive meaning. my first post told you to get out of the habit of not timing things as a jungler which is 100% good advice. to which you then said woops I actually do time things I just don't need it most of the time. the second time I said get out of the habit of thinking you are beyond advice. to which you said woops I do use advice but I don't need advice from you because I am actually a golden god at the jungle.
and this is probably going to seem like an unnecessary jab, but frankly, if you were as pretty god damned good at the jungle as you think you are, you wouldn't be in silver. the difference between me and you is I wish I was pretty god damned good at mid, jungle, ad carry, whatever. I'm in gold and I suck. true improvement doesn't come until you realize how shit you actually are.
Except your two posts responding to him were the same snarky uninformative sentence.
You both need to chill regardless but still.
Also I'm Bronze and fabulous at this game, why you gotta hate? 8-)
Sure is uppity in here... Anywho: Bear Cavalry Sejuani is op. Must give like +1 to Sejuani power.
Some overconfident Zed said I didn't deserve the skin because he dove me with his ult after he got super fed from our 1/5 midlane Heimer.
I then ulted him/Rumble/Vayne the next teamfight and we killed them in under 4 seconds while they were helpless. His response? 'Omg my keyboard is acting up.'
I definitely don't need any advice about jungling, heh.
get out of this habit
I'd appreciate if you aren't snarky for no reason. I didn't elaborate, but what I really meant was "I don't need advice from you." I've learned everything I know about jungling from doing it myself, but more importantly watching pro players, both in LCS and also when they play solo queue. And frankly, I'm pretty god damned good at the jungle. I have very very good jungle awareness. My win rate with jungle is between 60-80% with all junglers that I play in ranked.
If you want to elaborate on any of your posts with something more than a one sentence witticism, please do and I'd be glad to engage in discussion.
snarky for no reason? that's two posts of yours in a row that i've responded to where you typed something you didn't mean. i'm sorry if I couldn't read your hidden, passive-aggressive meaning. my first post told you to get out of the habit of not timing things as a jungler which is 100% good advice. to which you then said woops I actually do time things I just don't need it most of the time. the second time I said get out of the habit of thinking you are beyond advice. to which you said woops I do use advice but I don't need advice from you because I am actually a golden god at the jungle.
and this is probably going to seem like an unnecessary jab, but frankly, if you were as pretty god damned good at the jungle as you think you are, you wouldn't be in silver. the difference between me and you is I wish I was pretty god damned good at mid, jungle, ad carry, whatever. I'm in gold and I suck. true improvement doesn't come until you realize how shit you actually are.
Except your two posts responding to him were the same snarky uninformative sentence.
You both need to chill regardless but still.
Also I'm Bronze and fabulous at this game, why you gotta hate? 8-)
I definitely don't need any advice about jungling, heh.
get out of this habit
I'd appreciate if you aren't snarky for no reason. I didn't elaborate, but what I really meant was "I don't need advice from you." I've learned everything I know about jungling from doing it myself, but more importantly watching pro players, both in LCS and also when they play solo queue. And frankly, I'm pretty god damned good at the jungle. I have very very good jungle awareness. My win rate with jungle is between 60-80% with all junglers that I play in ranked.
If you want to elaborate on any of your posts with something more than a one sentence witticism, please do and I'd be glad to engage in discussion.
snarky for no reason? that's two posts of yours in a row that i've responded to where you typed something you didn't mean. i'm sorry if I couldn't read your hidden, passive-aggressive meaning. my first post told you to get out of the habit of not timing things as a jungler which is 100% good advice. to which you then said woops I actually do time things I just don't need it most of the time. the second time I said get out of the habit of thinking you are beyond advice. to which you said woops I do use advice but I don't need advice from you because I am actually a golden god at the jungle.
and this is probably going to seem like an unnecessary jab, but frankly, if you were as pretty god damned good at the jungle as you think you are, you wouldn't be in silver. the difference between me and you is I wish I was pretty god damned good at mid, jungle, ad carry, whatever. I'm in gold and I suck. true improvement doesn't come until you realize how shit you actually are.
As Albino pointed out, your responses were merely snark. You know it, and I know it. I expect the people in this thread to type thoughtful responses, not one sentence sarcasm. Most of the people in this thread are better than that.
As for your e-peen comparison, since I've start filling roles in champ select instead of taking whatever I feel like that game and playing more support and jungle, I'm on a huge win streak and my MMR is putting me against golds, so I have no doubt that I'll make it to gold if I keep working at it.
I'm not going to say I suck, because I don't feel that way. I feel like i'm where I belong until I'm not any more, and always trying to improve any weaknesses I have in my game, but being gold, silver, or even bronze doesn't make you suck. Other people will always be better than you, and this is a video game, so if somebody is only ever in bronze, if they enjoy playing the game, they don't need to self-loathe about it. =P
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Fake Edit: As far as i can tell there are only 10 abilities which have any CC>= 2.5 seconds. Only one of those is AoE and its not a full disable.
Malzahar's R: 2.5 Seconds
Malphite's Q: 4 seconds
Ashe's R: 1-3 Seconds
Fiddlestick's Q: 3 seconds
Chogath's W: 3 seconds
Kassadin's Q: 2.6 seconds
Nunu's E: 3 seconds
Nasus's W: 5 seconds
Soraka's E: 2.5 seconds
Master Yi is amazing now.
What's his downside again?
Although he can dodge CC with his Alpha Strike pretty easily.
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Of course it means you still eat the Alpha, but that's the thing with Yi.
It wouldn't surprise me at all if that win rate goes up as people get used to his new kit and the fact that he doesn't build AP any more.
Hit W, Ghost, run in and ult someone, drag 'em away while giggling like a maniac.
Heh.
IMO you can't afford to spend the money on tear/manamune. I mean, you can because he's so strong right now, but you really don't need mana on Yi. If you get hydra, shiv or both, you never need to even hit alpha strike to clear waves/camps instantly, so the only mana expenditures should be in team fights. And if you get to hit alpha strike enough times in a team fight to run OOM then you probably got a penta kill anyway, so it doesn't matter that you're now OOM.
The IE-botrk-shiv-phantom build is actually a superior build to the one you suggest, because with the first you get the botrk active, a fuckload of attack speed, but most importantly, 80% crit chance to go along with the IE. Your build has 30% crit only with no IE powered crits, and considerably less attack speed.
With the first build and his E Yi will have 250+ AD anyway, and he'll be critting for 600+ with 2+ attacks per second.
Mundo W max is a relic from season 2, when you didn't usually get smiteless leashes and your jungle path was like wolves-smite blue-wraiths-golems-red, so if you didn't have W you'd never be able to do that path, and even with it you needed armor/5 and you'd still get low.
Now that jungle is red->blue or blue->red there's no reason to ever start anything except QE on Mundo. Q shreds big buffs faster than anything, and his E gives you 40+ AD with one point. Not to mention, the small camps now only have one creep in them that has any health so E/Q max remain better. One point in W will kill the little guys in wraith/wolves camp np.
If you're jungling, you just bait enemies into fights or you counter gank. Don't alpha strike until somebody is in kill range, and GG resets.
The best kind of lanes to play Yi jungle against are ones with like Leona. Leona players are impossibly easy to bait. Just tell your bot lane to let her hit them with E while you stand slightly in the fog of war. Welcome to a double kill, every time.
He doesn't even need items. Yesterday in a game with my buddies I was already 6/0 by the time I backed for the 2nd time to finish my elder lizard. He still has the same weaknesses as he did before, but now he doesn't have to just hope he doesn't get CCed while he autos people to death because alpha strike hits like a freight train and finishes the kills for him.
My favorite part of Yi is how people are never sure until they fight you how strong you are at each stage of the game. I had a game last night where I was vs Vlad top. I didn't manage to get a kill on him early, so predictably I didn't have kill potential for most of laning phase. But once I had hydra/shiv/cutlass I won the 1v1 all in against him to determine who would own the split push game up there from then on. So I just pushed top insanely. At one point earlier in the game the Udyr jungle came top and I had to flash from him because he was too strong for me 1v1. So later in the game when I have 3 big items finished he thinks it's a good idea to fight me when I'm taking his blue buff. Got news for you buddy, the time of you 1v1ing me is over, lol. I killed him in about 6 seconds.
I'm always a big fan of champs that can split push well too. The same game I was pushing bot when the enemy engaged 5v4 on my team mid lane. At the time they did it I was on the inner turret. I took that turret, and had to decide if I wanted to go clean up mid or not. When I saw my team was going to lose the fight I just decided to keep up the split. We lost the fight 4 for 0, but my team nearly killed all 5 of them and they didn't have a minion wave so they couldn't push our mid and had to back, but by the time they could I had already taken bot inhib because Yi ult is amazing for fast push.
Funny story time:
In that game I had a Teemo top who was like 1/3 versus Fizz and asked me to gank. I tower dived the Fizz after baiting his E out first, expecting the Teemo to finish him off, but instead he ignited him at way more health than ignite would do and ran off. So I had to die to make sure I got the kill first.
The Teemo got SO MAD. I was 7/1 at that point and would of course go on to have 20+ kills, but the Teemo started calling me the worst names imaginable, saying the only reason I had kills was from KSing, and just generally hating me. I told him to just chill and be positive.
So later in the game the Teemo was fighting Fizz 1v1 in the mid lane and I am running up the lane. But instead of killing Fizz I just stop right next to them and start spamming /dance. I let the Fizz kill him, then just kill the Fizz after. The Teemo got soooooooooooooo much more mad. I wasn't trying to troll him or anything, the thought of watching them 1v1 while I dance there was just so funny and the game was already over at that point. Teemo started begging the enemy team to report me for assisting enemy team. Haha. I told him the global taunt works on your teammates too.
AD : IE, Hydra, BotRK, BT, LW
Attack speed/crit: Shiv, PD
Fun: Youmuu, SotD
My goal with him is always to crit every attack while also having an IE. But typically I build Hydra/Shiv early because my main goal is to out farm the world. I typically can hit 300 CS before the 30 minute mark. Just always be farming everywhere on the map. Leverage his great move speed and the insta wave clear. Leave no creeps behind.
I've never found that keeping timers on blue/red was necessary. They're going to be at 7:12 and ~7:45 for your first two, then between 12 and 13 for the second round, but after that, you're pretty much to the point where your mid/AD will probably be wanting to take them and will just grab them when it's convenient for them.
I try to keep a ward on the enemy buffs but I just place them a minute or two before I know they'll come up, so ~6, 11, 17 minutes.
Dragon I always have to scroll up to check the timer on though.
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I'm usually contesting enemy buffs when they spawn which means mine are going to be sitting shortly anyway. As long as you know within 10 seconds when your blue/red buff are going to spawn, and the enemies, and which one you plan to be at when it spawns, you will always be near it as soon as it spawns.
I shouldn't have said I don't keep timers, because that's not accurate. Just that I rarely ever need them because I already know when they're spawning. Any time I know a timer on a buff(mine or enemy), I type it in chat to have a timestamp. I just don't need them 90% of the time.
I definitely don't need any advice about jungling, heh.
get out of this habit
Bear Cavalry Sejuani is AMAZING (especially for a slavophile like me). If I played Sejuani it would perhaps be Riot's first crack at my money. As it is, I am resisting the purchase, because I've never even tried her.
Dragon: 6 minutes
Baron: 7 minutes, spawns at 15:00
Yup. Just remember 5,6,7
- 5 Buffs, 6 Dragon, 7 Baron. They're in order of importance.
I'd appreciate if you aren't snarky for no reason. I didn't elaborate, but what I really meant was "I don't need advice from you." I've learned everything I know about jungling from doing it myself, but more importantly watching pro players, both in LCS and also when they play solo queue. And frankly, I'm pretty god damned good at the jungle. I have very very good jungle awareness. My win rate with jungle is between 60-80% with all junglers that I play in ranked.
If you want to elaborate on any of your posts with something more than a one sentence witticism, please do and I'd be glad to engage in discussion.
Blue/Red: 5 minutes
Dragon: 6
Baron: 7
Turn on timestamps, and just type when you see a buff die/dragon, etc. If it's a blue/red, add 5 minutes, so if you kill blue or red respectively at 2:12, type in chat "7:12 ob" or "7:12 or." For enemies use "7:12 tb" So you know the timers on "our" and "their" buffs. It's a nice shorthand, and will help you backtrack if you forget a timer.
One day Riot will make you able to mouse scroll up through chat and not have it reset to the bottom if somebody types something. That is a day I anxiously await.
I obviously reported but I can't imagine why this person did that. I mean other than having something they actually have power over in their life. It was fine I accepted the lost played as well as I could (not well under the circumstances) and we lost at like 25 minutes.
At least I can say it was the first time I've ever had a real troll/feeder in a ranked game but it made me stop playing for the night.
PSN: SoulCrusherJared
snarky for no reason? that's two posts of yours in a row that i've responded to where you typed something you didn't mean. i'm sorry if I couldn't read your hidden, passive-aggressive meaning. my first post told you to get out of the habit of not timing things as a jungler which is 100% good advice. to which you then said woops I actually do time things I just don't need it most of the time. the second time I said get out of the habit of thinking you are beyond advice. to which you said woops I do use advice but I don't need advice from you because I am actually a golden god at the jungle.
and this is probably going to seem like an unnecessary jab, but frankly, if you were as pretty god damned good at the jungle as you think you are, you wouldn't be in silver. the difference between me and you is I wish I was pretty god damned good at mid, jungle, ad carry, whatever. I'm in gold and I suck. true improvement doesn't come until you realize how shit you actually are.
It's gettin' hot in here.
Except your two posts responding to him were the same snarky uninformative sentence.
You both need to chill regardless but still.
Also I'm Bronze and fabulous at this game, why you gotta hate? 8-)
Some overconfident Zed said I didn't deserve the skin because he dove me with his ult after he got super fed from our 1/5 midlane Heimer.
I then ulted him/Rumble/Vayne the next teamfight and we killed them in under 4 seconds while they were helpless. His response? 'Omg my keyboard is acting up.'
Sure, bro, sure.
this is still the best MMR related burn
2nd best MMR related burn: "bronzecrank"
Also real talk but my main reason for wanting to get out of Bronze I is to use that very smack down.
As Albino pointed out, your responses were merely snark. You know it, and I know it. I expect the people in this thread to type thoughtful responses, not one sentence sarcasm. Most of the people in this thread are better than that.
As for your e-peen comparison, since I've start filling roles in champ select instead of taking whatever I feel like that game and playing more support and jungle, I'm on a huge win streak and my MMR is putting me against golds, so I have no doubt that I'll make it to gold if I keep working at it.
I'm not going to say I suck, because I don't feel that way. I feel like i'm where I belong until I'm not any more, and always trying to improve any weaknesses I have in my game, but being gold, silver, or even bronze doesn't make you suck. Other people will always be better than you, and this is a video game, so if somebody is only ever in bronze, if they enjoy playing the game, they don't need to self-loathe about it. =P