that game was pretty damn good though. Can't wait for next 2. or one. Or 2. We shall see. Great game, great plays/throws on both sides. Really impressed by NIP there though, how they stuck it through
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ok that was a seemingly throw there by NiP with baron. I'm not sure exactly what ATN did wrong there though. They got the advantage, pushed it, guess over pushed it? It seemed like the right move whenthey went for bottom turret. I have no clue how NiP pulled it out exactly. The peel/plays to keep Cait alive in that one team fight
The problem wasn't that they lost Sona. The problem was that MF channeled her ult too early. Cait was in GA stasis for 4 seconds and MF channeled her 2 second ult entirely during that time. Had she started her ult at the right time the bullets would have killed cait before the barrier/shen ult would have been able to respond. EVEN THEN they probably still would have won that fight if MF did not flash into the fight in order to attempt to kill cait because by then the rest of the team had appeared. Without that flash in, ATN still probably wins because while cait is alive, she is still effectively out of the fight with that little HP and MF can carry a late game fight with a bit of peel better than fizz can
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edit I went win loss win, and had to earn the third. My team was trying to throw soI really feel I carried by keeping the team together
Just got absolutely rocked by a 5 AD team of Ashe / Ezreal / Fiora / Varus / Caitlin who went all 5 mid without warning, killed mid, killed mid tower, and steamrolled without any real defense?
PUGs not adapting or some bullshit meta?
I've spent the last month or so playing straight ARAM and if this is what is going on in Summoner's Rift then seriously, fuck that.
I know this shit isn't going to fly in upper gold+ but in games of mostly silvers and low golds I can generally just take a shit on botlane and then be more of an AP carry threat than our mid. We won this game anyway, despite our shitty 3 ADC 'no I absolutely must play Lucien' comp.
No, it still works in upper gold. Everyone was Plat 2-5 in my last ranked game and I had half my teams kills going into mid game as support Zyra.
I'd stop building PhiloStone though if you're not rushing Shurelya's.
Triple gold items can work fine on any ranged support at any level of solo queue. The important thing is to prioritize oracle's and usually a few extra pink/green wards with the extra money before getting items.
As long as you keep oracle's up buy literally whatever you want. I would rather have a support who gets triple gold into deathfire grasp but has 100% oracle uptime than a double gold support with locket/shurelia's who doesn't.
Vision wars too important
Frosteey will even buy Oracle's on mid/top if the scrub support isn't getting it
I'll do it too on jungle if I actually have money
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Just got absolutely rocked by a 5 AD team of Ashe / Ezreal / Fiora / Varus / Caitlin who went all 5 mid without warning, killed mid, killed mid tower, and steamrolled without any real defense?
PUGs not adapting or some bullshit meta?
I've spent the last month or so playing straight ARAM and if this is what is going on in Summoner's Rift then seriously, fuck that.
needs mroe heimer.
This pretty much never happens on summoners rift (Tbh I wouldn't know on low elo) and it's very easy to counter. Obviously this is much stronger in normal but you only need to hold with 4 characters, if they start killing towers pull all 5 to mid. If you have a full 5 man team with not a single lane clearing skill then tough luck :P.
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gotta say that i havent been impressed by lucy so far
He's kinda weird. The best thing about him is easily his passive, but it's hard to abuse because his kit is so schizophrenic. His ult is just terrible, there's no way around it: it does no damage, can be cancelled with as little as a knock-back or silence effect, and is a 60 second timer. It's so bad.
I've had a surprising amount of success with him building into Hurricane.
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lucians ultimate is probably one of the worst ultimates in the game
it is astounding how badzors it is
i cry tiny tear of blood 4 lucians
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like... mfs ult is more single target damage in most cases
MFS AOE ULT
at level 6 lucians ult will do under 675 damage over the course of the ult (note that is assuming a 1.0 attack speed, and he actually has under 1.0 attack speed at that level) over 3 seconds
mfs ult does ~540 damage at level 6.. over 2 seconds
landing her braindead cone does higher dps than fully hitting somebody with every single shot on lucians fiddly ass single target ult
the only thing it has going for it is that he can move, but that comes at the cost of therefore missing a shitload of shots and getting blocked by minions and getting trolled by dinosaurs
Comparing his ult to MF's, I'm guessing that Lucian's ult was balanced for those fringe cases where he has 2.5 attack speed and a ton of AD and manages to land every shot.
Unfortunately for Lucian, we can file those cases under "situations that will never happen in an actual game".
Comparing his ult to MF's, I'm guessing that Lucian's ult was balanced for those fringe cases where he has 2.5 attack speed and a ton of AD and manages to land every shot.
Unfortunately for Lucian, we can file those cases under "situations that will never happen in an actual game".
if u want real depression, calculate how much damage he would do by autoattacking with 2.5 attack speed for 3 seconds
Speaking of Lucian, pretty sure I ran into a bug playing against him last night as Malz. For some reason he could break out of my ult (before he'd bought a QSS) - seemed to be something to do with his dash during his ult, even though it should only break slows (I think?).
Didn't matter, crabs ate him anyway.
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Speaking of Lucian, pretty sure I ran into a bug playing against him last night as Malz. For some reason he could break out of my ult (before he'd bought a QSS) - seemed to be something to do with his dash during his ult, even though it should only break slows (I think?).
Oh you guys, BTs? Sword of the occult? Think bigger. Attackspeed at the time of cast.
Sword of the divine. Fire twice and ult away.
Lucian's ult doesn't work with Sword of the Divine.
Sorry to be the party pooper, but I special cased this If you activate SOTD before you activate The Culling, the Culling will ignore the extra AS from SOTD. Sorry!
The reason why I had to do this was that if I hadn't, SOTD would become an absolute MUST BUY item for Lucian all of the time, and that would be dull.
I think that's pretty silly logic from Riot, but there you go
The reason why I had to do this was that if I hadn't, SOTD would become an absolute MUST BUY item for Lucian all of the time, and that would be dull the culling might actually kill someone.
Well, I need to win this game to win my promos. First pick locks Thresh and says "If you can't run a 0 death ADC don't pick ADC". Well, I'll guess I'll just have to work my way into promos again.
What's with people in Silver thinking they are LCS material? It's worse than Bronze, I swear.
Probably because Bronze is bottom of the pile (seriously I note an attitude shift between the guys who are Bronze I and the guys who are Silver V in my matches). So the only correct attitudes to have in Bronze is either playing for fun or sincere and silent improvement.
Where as in Silver they at least have bronzies to look down on so I guess that makes them feel like hot shit?
Oh you guys, BTs? Sword of the occult? Think bigger. Attackspeed at the time of cast.
Sword of the divine. Fire twice and ult away.
Lucian's ult doesn't work with Sword of the Divine.
Sorry to be the party pooper, but I special cased this If you activate SOTD before you activate The Culling, the Culling will ignore the extra AS from SOTD. Sorry!
The reason why I had to do this was that if I hadn't, SOTD would become an absolute MUST BUY item for Lucian all of the time, and that would be dull.
I think that's pretty silly logic from Riot, but there you go
yeah it's a real shame they special cased out the only item that would make lucian good
Well, I need to win this game to win my promos. First pick locks Thresh and says "If you can't run a 0 death ADC don't pick ADC". Well, I'll guess I'll just have to work my way into promos again.
What's with people in Silver thinking they are LCS material? It's worse than Bronze, I swear.
People doing their initial placement matches are mostly dumped into Silver.
Well, I need to win this game to win my promos. First pick locks Thresh and says "If you can't run a 0 death ADC don't pick ADC". Well, I'll guess I'll just have to work my way into promos again.
What's with people in Silver thinking they are LCS material? It's worse than Bronze, I swear.
People doing their initial placement matches are mostly dumped into Silver.
This was no smurf doing his placements. It was just a random scrub who has lost more games than won.
We ended up winning that game despite him. Got outpoked hard as hell in bot lane because he (Thresh) refused to poke and kept standing behind me. I just quietly and calmly farmed until late game. I figured out why he doesn't die -- he stands so far away from all of the action that he gets no souls, no exp and doesn't poke.
Agreed. He kept saying I was shit because I wasn't carrying but I didn't need to. I guided my team by making good calls, took objectives and limited my deaths (to just 1). Objectives > Kills
I know this shit isn't going to fly in upper gold+ but in games of mostly silvers and low golds I can generally just take a shit on botlane and then be more of an AP carry threat than our mid. We won this game anyway, despite our shitty 3 ADC 'no I absolutely must play Lucien' comp.
No, it still works in upper gold. Everyone was Plat 2-5 in my last ranked game and I had half my teams kills going into mid game as support Zyra.
I'd stop building PhiloStone though if you're not rushing Shurelya's.
Triple gold items can work fine on any ranged support at any level of solo queue. The important thing is to prioritize oracle's and usually a few extra pink/green wards with the extra money before getting items.
As long as you keep oracle's up buy literally whatever you want. I would rather have a support who gets triple gold into deathfire grasp but has 100% oracle uptime than a double gold support with locket/shurelia's who doesn't.
Gp10 is fine; I'm just not a fan of Philo because it doesn't offer any combat stats. Zyra doesn't really have mana problems if you're maxing E and not harassing with Q, so I just buy health pots and go straight into Sight Stone.
And I always try to keep Oracles at 100% uptime once the first bot lane tower dies.
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that game was pretty damn good though. Can't wait for next 2. or one. Or 2. We shall see. Great game, great plays/throws on both sides. Really impressed by NIP there though, how they stuck it through
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edit 2. cait not MF
What happened to the Game 1 NIP?
edit I went win loss win, and had to earn the third. My team was trying to throw soI really feel I carried by keeping the team together
needs mroe heimer.
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Frosteey will even buy Oracle's on mid/top if the scrub support isn't getting it
I'll do it too on jungle if I actually have money
This pretty much never happens on summoners rift (Tbh I wouldn't know on low elo) and it's very easy to counter. Obviously this is much stronger in normal but you only need to hold with 4 characters, if they start killing towers pull all 5 to mid. If you have a full 5 man team with not a single lane clearing skill then tough luck :P.
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He's kinda weird. The best thing about him is easily his passive, but it's hard to abuse because his kit is so schizophrenic. His ult is just terrible, there's no way around it: it does no damage, can be cancelled with as little as a knock-back or silence effect, and is a 60 second timer. It's so bad.
I've had a surprising amount of success with him building into Hurricane.
it is astounding how badzors it is
i cry tiny tear of blood 4 lucians
MFS AOE ULT
at level 6 lucians ult will do under 675 damage over the course of the ult (note that is assuming a 1.0 attack speed, and he actually has under 1.0 attack speed at that level) over 3 seconds
mfs ult does ~540 damage at level 6.. over 2 seconds
landing her braindead cone does higher dps than fully hitting somebody with every single shot on lucians fiddly ass single target ult
the only thing it has going for it is that he can move, but that comes at the cost of therefore missing a shitload of shots and getting blocked by minions and getting trolled by dinosaurs
LUCIAN PLEEEES
you need to manmode his ult
max stacks sword of the occult, two bloodthirsters, rageblade, maw of malmortius, zephyr
trick them into taking you to 35% hp to trigger rageblade passive and maw max bonus
KILL THEM ALL
Unfortunately for Lucian, we can file those cases under "situations that will never happen in an actual game".
if u want real depression, calculate how much damage he would do by autoattacking with 2.5 attack speed for 3 seconds
yeah....
Didn't matter, crabs ate him anyway.
would u say these crabs were tiny.. and angry..
How the mighty have fallen.
Meh, EU is just closer in skill now.
Sword of the divine. Fire twice and ult away.
Lucian's ult doesn't work with Sword of the Divine.
I think that's pretty silly logic from Riot, but there you go
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What's with people in Silver thinking they are LCS material? It's worse than Bronze, I swear.
Where as in Silver they at least have bronzies to look down on so I guess that makes them feel like hot shit?
MORE LIKE LOWER IN SKILL
EU MORE LIKE P.U.
yeah it's a real shame they special cased out the only item that would make lucian good
People doing their initial placement matches are mostly dumped into Silver.
This was no smurf doing his placements. It was just a random scrub who has lost more games than won.
We ended up winning that game despite him. Got outpoked hard as hell in bot lane because he (Thresh) refused to poke and kept standing behind me. I just quietly and calmly farmed until late game. I figured out why he doesn't die -- he stands so far away from all of the action that he gets no souls, no exp and doesn't poke.
Did you win? Y/N?
That is the only question.
0/0/10? I'm fine with that.
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Gp10 is fine; I'm just not a fan of Philo because it doesn't offer any combat stats. Zyra doesn't really have mana problems if you're maxing E and not harassing with Q, so I just buy health pots and go straight into Sight Stone.
And I always try to keep Oracles at 100% uptime once the first bot lane tower dies.
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