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[Metroid] - I heard the next game is a monologue about misogyny. Oh wait.

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  • GethGeth Legion Perseus VeilRegistered User, Moderator, Penny Arcade Staff, Vanilla Staff vanilla
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  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    I was wondering when that was going to happen.

    So did anyone here ever figure out how to use the Power Bomb special moves in Super Metroid? The only clue to their existence is from watching the attract mode, you get shown that the health regen thing exists. No clues to how to really use it though. I never figured any of that stuff out. I looked up the healing thing years ago when I got into speed running but I can't remember how to do it now even, because I only needed it for one particular moment and it had to be specifically arranged in a very risky way (it can only be used when you're near death).

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  • Brainiac 8Brainiac 8 Don't call me Shirley... Registered User regular
    Henroid wrote: »
    I was wondering when that was going to happen.

    So did anyone here ever figure out how to use the Power Bomb special moves in Super Metroid? The only clue to their existence is from watching the attract mode, you get shown that the health regen thing exists. No clues to how to really use it though. I never figured any of that stuff out. I looked up the healing thing years ago when I got into speed running but I can't remember how to do it now even, because I only needed it for one particular moment and it had to be specifically arranged in a very risky way (it can only be used when you're near death).

    I use to be able to do it. Generally speaking you should never have to be in a spot where you'll need it...but it's neat to see at least once.

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  • Wraith260Wraith260 Happiest Goomba! Registered User regular
    Raybies666 wrote: »
    Wraith260 wrote: »
    HeraldS wrote: »
    Wraith260 wrote: »
    Metroid 5

    Samus is on the run from the Galactic Federation. There are literally a million cool stories they could make from this.

    Do it, Nintendo. Do it.

    Samus on the run? I think not!! as has already been suggested, Samus is on the offence against every federation outpost, gathering intel on their secret scientific research labs, hitting one after the other with GalFed on the back heel becoming more aggressive with each passing game.

    Metroid meets Alien Resurrection but not terrible.

    get Joss Whedon to write it, only this time don't fuck with his script! hell, it worked for Marvel.



    Pretty sure Whedon had a hand in the awfulness of Alien Resurrection, regardless of script revisions. Pretty sure everyone behind the camera had a hand in the awfulness of Alien Resurrection. Nobody is walking away with a justifiable clean conscienceon that one.


    yes he did, which is why i said "only this time don't fuck with his script". he wrote an early draft that i believe, barely resembles the finished product. i'm sure Joss is disappointed in how that one turned out, but ultimately it was out of his hands.

  • Raybies666Raybies666 Registered User regular
    Wraith260 wrote: »
    Raybies666 wrote: »
    Wraith260 wrote: »
    HeraldS wrote: »
    Wraith260 wrote: »
    Metroid 5

    Samus is on the run from the Galactic Federation. There are literally a million cool stories they could make from this.

    Do it, Nintendo. Do it.

    Samus on the run? I think not!! as has already been suggested, Samus is on the offence against every federation outpost, gathering intel on their secret scientific research labs, hitting one after the other with GalFed on the back heel becoming more aggressive with each passing game.

    Metroid meets Alien Resurrection but not terrible.

    get Joss Whedon to write it, only this time don't fuck with his script! hell, it worked for Marvel.



    Pretty sure Whedon had a hand in the awfulness of Alien Resurrection, regardless of script revisions. Pretty sure everyone behind the camera had a hand in the awfulness of Alien Resurrection. Nobody is walking away with a justifiable clean conscienceon that one.


    yes he did, which is why i said "only this time don't fuck with his script". he wrote an early draft that i believe, barely resembles the finished product. i'm sure Joss is disappointed in how that one turned out, but ultimately it was out of his hands.

    Everybody is disappointed with how that movie turned out, but this is not the Whedon thread so let's agree to disagree on this one.

    Back on topic, can anyone recommend Prime Hunters? I've been playing Metroid since Super came out and have enjoyed all of them except hunters and pinball, haven't tried either of them.

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  • chiasaur11chiasaur11 Never doubt a raccoon. Do you think it's trademarked?Registered User regular
    Raybies666 wrote: »
    Wraith260 wrote: »
    Raybies666 wrote: »
    Wraith260 wrote: »
    HeraldS wrote: »
    Wraith260 wrote: »
    Metroid 5

    Samus is on the run from the Galactic Federation. There are literally a million cool stories they could make from this.

    Do it, Nintendo. Do it.

    Samus on the run? I think not!! as has already been suggested, Samus is on the offence against every federation outpost, gathering intel on their secret scientific research labs, hitting one after the other with GalFed on the back heel becoming more aggressive with each passing game.

    Metroid meets Alien Resurrection but not terrible.

    get Joss Whedon to write it, only this time don't fuck with his script! hell, it worked for Marvel.



    Pretty sure Whedon had a hand in the awfulness of Alien Resurrection, regardless of script revisions. Pretty sure everyone behind the camera had a hand in the awfulness of Alien Resurrection. Nobody is walking away with a justifiable clean conscienceon that one.


    yes he did, which is why i said "only this time don't fuck with his script". he wrote an early draft that i believe, barely resembles the finished product. i'm sure Joss is disappointed in how that one turned out, but ultimately it was out of his hands.

    Everybody is disappointed with how that movie turned out, but this is not the Whedon thread so let's agree to disagree on this one.

    Back on topic, can anyone recommend Prime Hunters? I've been playing Metroid since Super came out and have enjoyed all of them except hunters and pinball, haven't tried either of them.

    I can't say anything on hunters, but I've beaten Pinball, and can safely say that one's good fun. Only 2 main tables, but there's four boss fights, lots of minigames, and decent core pinballing. Worth getting if you find it cheap.

  • AbsoluteZeroAbsoluteZero The new film by Quentin Koopantino Registered User regular
    Wraith260 wrote: »
    Metroid 5

    Samus is on the run from the Galactic Federation. There are literally a million cool stories they could make from this.

    Do it, Nintendo. Do it.

    Samus on the run? I think not!! as has already been suggested, Samus is on the offence against every federation outpost, gathering intel on their secret scientific research labs, hitting one after the other with GalFed on the back heel becoming more aggressive with each passing game.

    I could see that. Maybe she discovers evidence of a space pirate plot to destroy the galactic federation from within? That would be cool. Or maybe something else entirely! Point is, Nintendo needs to get off their asses and make it happen.

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  • WybornWyborn GET EQUIPPED Registered User regular
    It sinks my heart that my brothers in Metroid affection should yearn in their hearts for Dread Continuity

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  • King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    Metroid has always had continuity

    Only Other M doesn't really fit anywhere

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  • ArteenArteen Adept ValeRegistered User regular
    Other M fits in right after the first Metroid.

    Unfortunately that's not when the game actually takes place.

  • shoeboxjeddyshoeboxjeddy Registered User regular
    Arteen wrote: »
    Other M fits in right after the first Metroid.

    Unfortunately that's not when the game actually takes place.

    The um infant Metroid from 2 is rather important to MOM, so only the Ridley scene slots in as you're suggesting.

  • ArteenArteen Adept ValeRegistered User regular
    Oh right, the infant. Somehow I suppressed those memories.

    Other M could cut the flashback to the end of Super Metroid and all of Samus's infant talk, and the plot would remain basically the same.

  • JusticeforPlutoJusticeforPluto Registered User regular
    Metroid Other M

    MOM

    How did I never see that?

    Was that intentional?

  • chiasaur11chiasaur11 Never doubt a raccoon. Do you think it's trademarked?Registered User regular
    Arteen wrote: »
    Other M fits in right after the first Metroid.

    Unfortunately that's not when the game actually takes place.

    The um infant Metroid from 2 is rather important to MOM, so only the Ridley scene slots in as you're suggesting.

    And even that doesn't fit, since Sammy's attitude towards Ridley in Metroid is, even in the more detailed Zero Mission "I want him DEAD! I want his family DEAD! I want his house burned to the GROUND! I wanna go there in the middle of the night and I wanna PISS ON HIS ASHES!"

    She's past "oh no, he killed my family" and well into "he's going to pay for that."

  • reVersereVerse Attack and Dethrone God Registered User regular
    Other M. MOther.

    Yeah, it's all intentional.

  • Shady3011Shady3011 Registered User regular
    Stop talking about that shitty game.

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  • ArteenArteen Adept ValeRegistered User regular
    Yes, Mom.

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  • Shady3011Shady3011 Registered User regular
    Call me dad.

  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    Shady3011 wrote: »
    Call me dad.

    Metroid: DAD

    something Adam something

  • MolybdenumMolybdenum Registered User regular
    Seriously considering hooking up my gamecube and just running through prime with the scan visor

    I played that game more to see all the unbelievably rich worlds than to advance any plot

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  • SyngyneSyngyne Registered User regular
    Cantido wrote: »
    Arteen wrote: »
    Garthor wrote: »
    Metroid 5

    Samus is on the run from the Galactic Federation. There are literally a million cool stories they could make from this.

    Do it, Nintendo. Do it.

    As has already been said, there may be some thematic issues with Samus shooting mans.

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  • CokomonCokomon Our butts are worth fighting for! Registered User regular
    Henroid wrote: »
    Shady3011 wrote: »
    Call me dad.

    Metroid: DAD

    something Adam something

    Metroid: DAD -> Dread ADam

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  • LBD_NytetraynLBD_Nytetrayn TorontoRegistered User regular
    I still need to play through Other M. Crazily, I somehow wound up with two copies.

    Favorite remains Super, though I enjoyed what I played of Primes 1 and 3. FPS is a weird thing for me; I've got Trilogy, and I prefer using the Wii Remote, so I hope to get back to those someday.

    Zero Mission was great, too, save for the Zero Suit part. Or that might just be my curse talking.

    Played/beat the original before Super came out, and I'd love a remake of Metroid II. Fusion... blasted SA-X tends to be an occasional problem for me. Again, probably my curse.

    Still want to get Pinball at some point.

    Right now, I just want them to make a new one which sticks to the Super Metroid formula, but does new things with it. New planet, new creatures, new items/weapons, and you're just stuck somewhere on it and have to find a way out. And it would be nice if they moved things forward chronologically from Fusion, too, rather than getting all Zelda with it.
    Cokomon wrote: »
    Henroid wrote: »
    Shady3011 wrote: »
    Call me dad.

    Metroid: DAD

    something Adam something

    Metroid: DAD -> Dread ADam

    Metroid: DAMN -> Dread Adam Malkovich's Name

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  • Shady3011Shady3011 Registered User regular
    I still need to play through Other M.

    No, you don't.

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  • skeldareskeldare Gresham, ORRegistered User regular
    Shady3011 wrote: »
    I still need to play through Other M.

    No, you don't.

    Might as well if he already owns the game.

    Plus, he could make a drinking game out of it.

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  • LBD_NytetraynLBD_Nytetrayn TorontoRegistered User regular
    Pity I don't drink, then. :P

    But okay, I stand corrected; I'd like to play through it.

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  • heenatoheenato Alice Leywind Registered User regular
    skeldare wrote: »
    Shady3011 wrote: »
    I still need to play through Other M.

    No, you don't.

    Might as well if he already owns the game.

    Plus, he could make a drinking game out of it.
    I dunno. I think any drinking game involved with that game would just deteriorate into heavy drinking.

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  • Brainiac 8Brainiac 8 Don't call me Shirley... Registered User regular
    Pity I don't drink, then. :P

    But okay, I stand corrected; I'd like to play through it.

    It's a great game with a silly and sometimes stupid story. (I'm saying that as a guy who didn't actually mind the story)

    The gameplay is pretty great though. I enjoyed it a lot even though it's nowhere near the best of the rest of the franchise. It's probably better than Metroid II and the original, but not quite as good as the rest of the series.

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  • ArteenArteen Adept ValeRegistered User regular
    You'd have to be drunk to find the gameplay fun.

    It's mediocre at best.

  • SyphonBlueSyphonBlue The studying beaver That beaver sure loves studying!Registered User regular
    It's a terrible game with an offensive story.

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  • Brainiac 8Brainiac 8 Don't call me Shirley... Registered User regular
    Arteen wrote: »
    You'd have to be drunk to find the gameplay fun.

    It's mediocre at best.

    Or I genuinely find the gameplay fun! Opinions yay!

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  • KoopahTroopahKoopahTroopah The koopas, the troopas. Philadelphia, PARegistered User regular
    Yeah I thought Other M was okay, but I'd never play through it again.

    I admit the exploration and shooting is neat, but the upgrading and suit functions are shotty. Why even explore for missles when I have a function that fully regenerates my missle supply in seconds?

    It's just not a Metroid game. It doesn't feel or play like one, and the story doesn't even come close. But, the game it does play like (Ninja Gaiden with range weapons) isn't as bad as people make it out to be, it's just not at all what Metroid fans expect. Especially after those awesome E3 demos and trailers.

  • SyphonBlueSyphonBlue The studying beaver That beaver sure loves studying!Registered User regular
    Yeah I thought Other M was okay, but I'd never play through it again.

    I admit the exploration and shooting is neat, but the upgrading and suit functions are shotty. Why even explore for missles when I have a function that fully regenerates my missle supply in seconds?

    It's just not a Metroid game. It doesn't feel or play like one, and the story doesn't even come close. But, the game it does play like (Ninja Gaiden with range weapons) isn't as bad as people make it out to be, it's just not at all what Metroid fans expect. Especially after those awesome E3 demos and trailers.

    Yeah but that's the thing.

    When the game has Metroid in the title, I expect a Metroid game.

    Not a Ninja Gaiden with weapons and an offensive story game.

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  • Brainiac 8Brainiac 8 Don't call me Shirley... Registered User regular
    Yeah I thought Other M was okay, but I'd never play through it again.

    I admit the exploration and shooting is neat, but the upgrading and suit functions are shotty. Why even explore for missles when I have a function that fully regenerates my missle supply in seconds?

    It's just not a Metroid game. It doesn't feel or play like one, and the story doesn't even come close. But, the game it does play like (Ninja Gaiden with range weapons) isn't as bad as people make it out to be, it's just not at all what Metroid fans expect. Especially after those awesome E3 demos and trailers.

    I can agree with this thinking.

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  • DrascinDrascin Registered User regular
    Eh, personally I found it rather mediocre as a Ninja Gaiden game. You were forced into using the kill moves if you wanted to finish anytime quickly most of the time, and the kill moves were slow and annoying. Even if I ignore the really offensive bits, it just had a soulless gameplay, totally run-by-numbers move and shoot with a dodge button as its gimmick.

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  • WybornWyborn GET EQUIPPED Registered User regular
    Hey let's be real for a second.

    Metroid Other M is a bad Metroid game, ignoring the story.

    It is an absolutely abysmal Ninja Gaiden game, and I almost used abyssal because some demon vomited it up. As an action game it's so lacking it borders on parody - it does everything it can to make Samus seem like a bad-ass while incorporating systems that remove any real sense of player accomplishment in combat

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  • KoopahTroopahKoopahTroopah The koopas, the troopas. Philadelphia, PARegistered User regular
    I don't know man, I look at Ninja Gaiden 2 for Xbox and Other M in comparison and they're pretty similar. But I love Ninja Gaiden 2, and I'm indifferent about Other M.

  • skeldareskeldare Gresham, ORRegistered User regular
    The biggest difference between Ninja Gaiden and Other M is Other M has worse boob physics.

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  • WybornWyborn GET EQUIPPED Registered User regular
    I don't know man, I look at Ninja Gaiden 2 for Xbox and Other M in comparison and they're pretty similar. But I love Ninja Gaiden 2, and I'm indifferent about Other M.
    skeldare wrote: »
    The biggest difference between Ninja Gaiden and Other M is Other M has worse boob physics.

    Yo I know it's trendy to shit on Team Ninja and they're a bunch of misogynist bros according to all evidence but Ninja Gaiden, Ninja Gaiden Black, and Ninja Gaiden 2 can have arguments made for them as being the best games in their genre, no matter how much one may love the works of Kamiya or Mikami

    I'll talk about Ninja Gaiden Black since it was the ultimate game in that series

    Ninja Gaiden was built on the idea of the escalation of game challenge meeting the escalation of player skill; every encounter can kill you, and quickly, if you are not good at controlling Ryu, but being good enough to beat a room full of white ninjas is very different from being good enough to beat a room full of full-blown cat demons. Every second you were on the edge of death, and the game was about finding or creating the moments where you coudl avoid death while driving your knife into the heart of your enemy. This is true in all parts of the game on all difficulties, becoming obfuscated to observers because the game is so frenetic.

    Other M is not like that. If you can tap directions on the D-pad, you have conquered the hardest fights in the game. That Sense Dodge business ham-stringed the game from the start, and when you add that onto problems like digital movement in a game where enemies had variable movement speed, a complete lack of short-range combat options in spite of nearly all enemies being melee range (which was not true in other Metroids, take note), and a lack of real progression in terms of the feedback provided by weapon upgrades

    God

    I never thought I'd stumble on a perspective by which I would hate Other M more than I hate it as a Metroid game but here we are

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