I remember back in the days when Nintendo had their own official forums that I would hang around quite often. This was back in middle school so I was about 12-13, right around the time I had started playing Metroid games.
There were so, so many people who were adamant / disillusioned into thinking that Dark Samus was not in anyway spawned from Metroid Prime (should I spoiler that?) Like, there were countless threads of people dissecting concept art from both Metroid Prime 1 and 2 looking for the tiniest evidence that would support this theory, and it was just baffling. Of course, I got sucked right into it because I was naive and thought you could convince people to see your way on the internet back then.
The other horrible, drawn-out, clusterfuck of a debate I got sucked into was somebody positing the theory that Metroid Zero Mission wasn't a retcon/remake of Metroid 1 at all, but rather a supplementary story that took place after. Nevermind that all evidence to the contrary was plain as day; this guy refused to see it as anything other than a separate tale. Like the previous argument, this turned into a pissing match of dissecting maps from a fucking twenty-year-old game comparing them to the new, updated, modern maps of Zero Mission, all to find differences that would support this theory.
I remember back in the days when Nintendo had their own official forums that I would hang around quite often. This was back in middle school so I was about 12-13, right around the time I had started playing Metroid games.
There were so, so many people who were adamant / disillusioned into thinking that Dark Samus was not in anyway spawned from Metroid Prime (should I spoiler that?) Like, there were countless threads of people dissecting concept art from both Metroid Prime 1 and 2 looking for the tiniest evidence that would support this theory, and it was just baffling. Of course, I got sucked right into it because I was naive and thought you could convince people to see your way on the internet back then.
The other horrible, drawn-out, clusterfuck of a debate I got sucked into was somebody positing the theory that Metroid Zero Mission wasn't a retcon/remake of Metroid 1 at all, but rather a supplementary story that took place after. Nevermind that all evidence to the contrary was plain as day; this guy refused to see it as anything other than a separate tale. Like the previous argument, this turned into a pissing match of dissecting maps from a fucking twenty-year-old game comparing them to the new, updated, modern maps of Zero Mission, all to find differences that would support this theory.
It was mind-numbing.
...did that last guy use a picture of The Grimace as an avatar? Or focus on Norfair and the placement of like one door?
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Nah, I think at one point he was using 8-bit Samus as an avatar. I wish I remembered the name but this was ten years ago at least. The forums aren't even around anymore to look.
edit: One thing I remember he harped on a LOT was how both games' instruction manuals had slightly different phrasing describing Samus' mission.
You know, I posted this as a joke, but the more I think about it the more I think this would be sweet as hell. Just an endless collection of technology, genetic enhancements, and behavioral conditioning modifiers, and you apply them successively and in various combinations to Pirate test subjects until they can reach objectives like "defend territory", "subdue metroid", or "mine phazon", and ultimately "defeat the Hunter".
Intentionally make it impossible to kill her, just so it's all the more awesome when someone taking a break from colonizing the circus tent in Dwarf Fortress does it.
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I went to the forum where he actually started that bullshit, a forum attached to that old fansite NintendoLand
Arguing with him was exhausting. He was even worse than the guys who insisted that there was only one Link
Whaaaaaat?!
Just so we're clear, this is the official Nintendo forums that were part of/related to Nintendo Power, that had dedicated message boards to each of their key franchises, right?
I never went to the forums you're talking about, but that guy went to both, I am pretty sure. Very few people argue the same thing that he argued, and that's all the same tlaking points that he used to use.
That and dissecting every single press release about the game to prove that Nintendo never called it a remake.
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Boba Fett vs. Samus Aran vs. Captain Falcon vs. Brisco County Jr.: Battle of the Ultimate Bounty Hunters!
Do we invite the Freelance Peacekeeping Agent too? I mean, Death's Head is totally not a bounty hunter, but he does similar work, and he's qualified for this level of competition. Fought heroes and monsters, forced his way through a god mind controlling him on willpower, and he's the only person in history to punch his way into the TARDIS from the outside. While it was traveling through space and time.
It might be enough to survive five minutes in a room with Samus. Maybe.
I never went to the forums you're talking about, but that guy went to both, I am pretty sure. Very few people argue the same thing that he argued, and that's all the same tlaking points that he used to use.
That and dissecting every single press release about the game to prove that Nintendo never called it a remake.
I also seem to remember scrutinizing Tourian in both games and claiming that the different layouts of Mother Brain's lair suggested, again, that they were different.
Never mind that it's 20 years between games! Never mind they're on completely different systems!
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Boba Fett vs. Samus Aran vs. Captain Falcon vs. Brisco County Jr.: Battle of the Ultimate Bounty Hunters!
Do we invite the Freelance Peacekeeping Agent too? I mean, Death's Head is totally not a bounty hunter, but he does similar work, and he's qualified for this level of competition. Fought heroes and monsters, forced his way through a god mind controlling him on willpower, and he's the only person in history to punch his way into the TARDIS from the outside. While it was traveling through space and time.
It might be enough to survive five minutes in a room with Samus. Maybe.
Sure, why not.
Although we all know that Brisco County Jr and Comet would win by default because the others would just love him too much to do anything to him.
Instead of Hardened Bounty Hunter Freelance Peace-Keeping Agent Samus Aran waiting for daddy to tell her to do something.
Sorry, I had to fix that for you, as Nintendo apparently no longer considers her/wants her to be known as a "bounty hunter," as she would never do such dirty work, yes?
Samus is sometimes paid specifically to commit genocide on indigenous species if they're hostile on an inter-planetary scale
She's pretty much the ultimate bounty hunter
Apparently, she wouldn't take money to do it. I believe Retro joked she's more of a "pro-bono hunter."
Boba Fett vs. Samus Aran vs. Captain Falcon vs. Brisco County Jr.: Battle of the Ultimate Bounty Hunters!
Do we invite the Freelance Peacekeeping Agent too? I mean, Death's Head is totally not a bounty hunter, but he does similar work, and he's qualified for this level of competition. Fought heroes and monsters, forced his way through a god mind controlling him on willpower, and he's the only person in history to punch his way into the TARDIS from the outside. While it was traveling through space and time.
It might be enough to survive five minutes in a room with Samus. Maybe.
Oh, good, someone knows what I as referencing last page... even though you didn't address it directly... if at all.
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Apparently, she wouldn't take money to do it. I believe Retro joked she's more of a "pro-bono hunter."
Well, given her vendetta against Space Pirates I would definitely believe she'd be willing to do any mission involving the systematic extermination of Space Pirates for peanuts.
I can see the bids already.
Federation Command: "Okay, we have discovered an important Pirate base on the ass end of System Bugfuck Nowhere and we need someone to go in there and kill them all. State your bids!"
Rundas: "I'll do it for one million credits"
Sylux: "Eight hundred thousand and a couple free ammo refills at a Fed base"
Samus: "I'll do it for the fuel it takes to get there and back"
Federation Command: "...aaaaaand given to the terrifying woman with the arm cannon on the back!"
Everyone else: "Oh that's just not fair"
Apparently, she wouldn't take money to do it. I believe Retro joked she's more of a "pro-bono hunter."
Well, given her vendetta against Space Pirates I would definitely believe she'd be willing to do any mission involving the systematic extermination of Space Pirates for peanuts.
I can see the bids already.
Federation Command: "Okay, we have discovered an important Pirate base on the ass end of System Bugfuck Nowhere and we need someone to go in there and kill them all. State your bids!"
Rundas: "I'll do it for one million credits"
Sylux: "Eight hundred thousand and a couple free ammo refills at a Fed base"
Samus: "I'll do it for the fuel it takes to get there and back"
Federation Command: "...aaaaaand given to the terrifying woman with the arm cannon on the back!"
Everyone else: "Oh that's just not fair"
I'm not sure if she doesn't salvage the fuel for the trip back while she's there.
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"I'll do it for free, genocide the Space Pirate threat once and for all, and blow up a couple of planets along the way."
"Uhhhh. Yeah, that's fine. It's yours."
Sounds kind of like Captain Janeway, when written like that.
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Oh man I have access to Prime and Prime 2 again. I should beat the latter since I never did. Assuming I get over my, "ugh why are the weapons different this is dumb" pickiness.
Prime 2's biggest sin was the patchwork level flow (due to the alternate dimension mechanic) which often required you to frequently hop into and out-of portals to traverse long areas.. forcing an unskippable cutscene EVERY. DAMN. TIME.
Got Metroid Prime Trilogy this weekend at my local used game store for $50 in the steel case since they were having a sale. Only like 20 minutes in but these motion controls are civilization. I wish every Wii game used them this well.
Got Metroid Prime Trilogy this weekend at my local used game store for $50 in the steel case since they were having a sale. Only like 20 minutes in but these motion controls are civilization. I wish every Wii game used them this well.
The Metroid Prime Trilogy is truely a thing of greatness. That's an awesome deal.
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Prime 2's biggest sin was the patchwork level flow (due to the alternate dimension mechanic) which often required you to frequently hop into and out-of portals to traverse long areas.. forcing an unskippable cutscene EVERY. DAMN. TIME.
I'd totally buy a re-release that made the portals work like the portals in uh, Portal.
That sounded better in my head.
Nobody remembers the singer. The song remains.
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Got Metroid Prime Trilogy this weekend at my local used game store for $50 in the steel case since they were having a sale. Only like 20 minutes in but these motion controls are civilization. I wish every Wii game used them this well.
The Metroid Prime Trilogy is truely a thing of greatness. That's an awesome deal.
Being able to find it for $50 is a very WTF rarity, good grab HeraldS.
Got Metroid Prime Trilogy this weekend at my local used game store for $50 in the steel case since they were having a sale. Only like 20 minutes in but these motion controls are civilization. I wish every Wii game used them this well.
The Metroid Prime Trilogy is truely a thing of greatness. That's an awesome deal.
Being able to find it for $50 is a very WTF rarity, good grab HeraldS.
Total blind luck. I went in to trade a bunch of old stuff in and they were having a one day only 20% off sale. I was gonna just take it all as cash but then I saw a copy of MPT behind the glass. Snapped it right up. The place is Savepoint Games in Charlotte- I highly recommend it to anyone in the area. Got everything from NES on up and some playable arcade cabinets too.
"I'll do it for free, genocide the Space Pirate threat once and for all, and blow up a couple of planets along the way."
"Uhhhh. Yeah, that's fine. It's yours."
Sounds kind of like Captain Janeway, when written like that.
I feel like there's a Jaws joke here that we're missing.
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"I'll do it for free, genocide the Space Pirate threat once and for all, and blow up a couple of planets along the way."
"Uhhhh. Yeah, that's fine. It's yours."
Sounds kind of like Captain Janeway, when written like that.
I feel like there's a Jaws joke here that we're missing.
Y'all know me. Know how I earn a livin'. I'll catch this bird for you, but it ain't gonna be easy. Bad fish! Not like going down to the pond and chasing bluegills and tommycods. This shark, swallow ya whole. Little shakin', little tenderizin', down you go. And we gotta do it quick, that'll bring back the tourists, that'll put all your businesses on a payin' basis. But it's not gonna be pleasant! I value my neck a lot more than three thousand bucks, chief. I'll find him for three, but I'll catch him, and kill him, for ten. But you've gotta make up your minds. If you want to stay alive, then ante up. If you want to play it cheap, be on welfare the whole winter. I don't want no volunteers, I don't want no mates, there's too many captains on this island. Ten thousand dollars for me by myself. For that you get the head, the tail, the whole damn thing..
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Y'all know me. Know how I earn a livin'. I'll catch this Metroid for you, but it ain't gonna be easy. Bad Metroid! Not like going down to SR-388 and chasing Flits and hornoads. This Metroid, swallow ya whole. Little shakin', little tenderizin', down you go. And we gotta do it quick, that'll bring back the Federation soldiers, that'll put all your businesses on a payin' basis. But it's not gonna be pleasant! I value my health a lot more than three thousand credits, chief. I'll find him for three, but I'll catch him, and kill him, for ten. But you've gotta make up your minds. If you want to stay alive, then ante up. If you want to play it cheap, be on welfare the whole winter. I don't want no volunteers, don't want no mates, there's too many captains on this island. Ten thousand dollars for me by myself. For that you get the Metroid, the eggs, the whole damn thing..
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Oh, this thread isn't far back at all.
I've been replaying Fusion now that it's on the Wii U virtual console. It's really fun! I can't remember the last time I played it, but it was definitely close to ten years at least. I think I got on board with the "It's too linear!" bandwagon in later years but playing it again, it's not that bad. You can still explore a bit here and there when you're completing each objective, and the gameplay is so tight that I don't really mind it pushing you along.
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did anyone notice that Trinen's elaborate dream on the Tomodachi Life Nintendo Direct focused on Samus? She got more screen time than Peach and Zelda (not to mention they referred to her as Samus Aran, whereas the others were Princess P and Z respectively, but that might have been due to space contraints. Although they could have just said Peach and Zelda).
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...did that last guy use a picture of The Grimace as an avatar? Or focus on Norfair and the placement of like one door?
edit: One thing I remember he harped on a LOT was how both games' instruction manuals had slightly different phrasing describing Samus' mission.
Christ
I went to the forum where he actually started that bullshit, a forum attached to that old fansite NintendoLand
Arguing with him was exhausting. He was even worse than the guys who insisted that there was only one Link
Intentionally make it impossible to kill her, just so it's all the more awesome when someone taking a break from colonizing the circus tent in Dwarf Fortress does it.
[lurk]
Whaaaaaat?!
Just so we're clear, this is the official Nintendo forums that were part of/related to Nintendo Power, that had dedicated message boards to each of their key franchises, right?
That'd be insane if it was the same dude.
That and dissecting every single press release about the game to prove that Nintendo never called it a remake.
Do we invite the Freelance Peacekeeping Agent too? I mean, Death's Head is totally not a bounty hunter, but he does similar work, and he's qualified for this level of competition. Fought heroes and monsters, forced his way through a god mind controlling him on willpower, and he's the only person in history to punch his way into the TARDIS from the outside. While it was traveling through space and time.
It might be enough to survive five minutes in a room with Samus. Maybe.
Why I fear the ocean.
I also seem to remember scrutinizing Tourian in both games and claiming that the different layouts of Mother Brain's lair suggested, again, that they were different.
Never mind that it's 20 years between games! Never mind they're on completely different systems!
@Wyborn, I feel like a great weight has been lifted off my shoulders. Finally, someone else to share my pain.
So on into the night, swapping tales of the endless Battle.net, AUG whore apoplexies, and the whispered fable of Aeris and Lazarus, the warriors heal.
I mean ignoring the gravity jump animation is three frames longer like that. Its clear she upgraded after.the first game
Sure, why not.
Although we all know that Brisco County Jr and Comet would win by default because the others would just love him too much to do anything to him.
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Apparently, she wouldn't take money to do it. I believe Retro joked she's more of a "pro-bono hunter."
Oh, good, someone knows what I as referencing last page... even though you didn't address it directly... if at all.
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Well, given her vendetta against Space Pirates I would definitely believe she'd be willing to do any mission involving the systematic extermination of Space Pirates for peanuts.
I can see the bids already.
Federation Command: "Okay, we have discovered an important Pirate base on the ass end of System Bugfuck Nowhere and we need someone to go in there and kill them all. State your bids!"
Rundas: "I'll do it for one million credits"
Sylux: "Eight hundred thousand and a couple free ammo refills at a Fed base"
Samus: "I'll do it for the fuel it takes to get there and back"
Federation Command: "...aaaaaand given to the terrifying woman with the arm cannon on the back!"
Everyone else: "Oh that's just not fair"
I'm not sure if she doesn't salvage the fuel for the trip back while she's there.
Why I fear the ocean.
"Uhhhh. Yeah, that's fine. It's yours."
Sounds kind of like Captain Janeway, when written like that.
The Metroid Prime Trilogy is truely a thing of greatness. That's an awesome deal.
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I'd totally buy a re-release that made the portals work like the portals in uh, Portal.
That sounded better in my head.
Being able to find it for $50 is a very WTF rarity, good grab HeraldS.
Total blind luck. I went in to trade a bunch of old stuff in and they were having a one day only 20% off sale. I was gonna just take it all as cash but then I saw a copy of MPT behind the glass. Snapped it right up. The place is Savepoint Games in Charlotte- I highly recommend it to anyone in the area. Got everything from NES on up and some playable arcade cabinets too.
I feel like there's a Jaws joke here that we're missing.
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Farewell and adieu, you ladies of Spain
For we've received orders for to sail back to Boston
And so nevermore shall we see you again
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I've been replaying Fusion now that it's on the Wii U virtual console. It's really fun! I can't remember the last time I played it, but it was definitely close to ten years at least. I think I got on board with the "It's too linear!" bandwagon in later years but playing it again, it's not that bad. You can still explore a bit here and there when you're completing each objective, and the gameplay is so tight that I don't really mind it pushing you along.
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